Based ancestors: evidence of first race war, 13,000 years ago

independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/saharan-remains-may-be-evidence-of-first-race-war-13000-years-ago-9603632.html

>evidence of first race war, 13,000 years ago
>The two groups – although both part of our species, Homo sapiens – would have looked quite different from each other and were also almost certainly different culturally and linguistically. The sub-Saharan originating group had long limbs, relatively short torsos and projecting upper and lower jaws along with rounded foreheads and broad noses, while the North African/Levantine/European originating group had shorter limbs, longer torsos and flatter faces. Both groups were very muscular and strongly built.
Based ancestors

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Who won though?

Well, the kangz stayed deep in the south, no?

>Winning race wars since 13000 BCE

Nigs btfo

>had long limbs, relatively short torsos and projecting upper and lower jaws along with rounded foreheads and broad noses
Oi yoo stupid grot. Das my fada
Waaaaaaaaaaaargh

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>they were part of the general sub-Saharan originating population – the ancestors of modern Black Africans.
>The identity of their killers is however less easy to determine. But it is conceivable that they were people from a totally different racial and ethnic group – part of a North African/ Levantine/European people who lived around much of the Mediterranean Basin.
actually based af

goto be honest, my dick is such a long limb that I couldn't sleep easy until my DNA test certified me 100% white British.

>13,000 years ago
carbon datings unreliable

I see you follow survive the jive too

;)

I think the lad's way off on the pagan angle (most peeps will be able to convert to catholicism but paganism... eh, bridge too far)

>European originating group had shorter limbs, longer torsos and flatter faces. Both groups were very muscular and strongly built.
11000BC?

Lol!

NOPE!

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>11000BC?
>Lol!
>NOPE!

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>11000BC?
>Lol!
>NOPE!

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>11000BC?
>Lol!
>NOPE!

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To be honest he’s just a race realist at heart who wants Europeans to get in touch with their own traditions of past. We’ve largely lost that in the west and it’s extremely depressing to see. At least the Eastern Europeans hold on to their history.

what are you saying, user?

I agree with you and I also agree with Jive but I think it's easier to turn agnostics/atheists into catholics than I think it is to back into pagans

thats 90% of the board we're just memeing

we'll make fun of the slavs/Italians with bantz, but if they were to start getting slaughtered by niggers we'd become furious

I can't be the only one noticing that Independent is essentially admitting that racial makeup (among other attributes) can be derived by examination of skeletal remains. I thought race (breed has always seemed a more fitting word, not unlike the manner in which we describe different breeds of canine) was purely a social constrcut.

Hmm... really makes me think...

Construct*

>it's easier to turn agnostics/atheists into catholics than I think it is to back into pagans
I'm not sure about that. They're more open to Eastern spirituality which 'paganism' is generally more in line with.

ME KILL 10 LONG NOSE TRIBE IN HOLOBUNGA AND ME DO IT AGAIN

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yeah I had to laugh at their emphasis of

>The two groups – although both part of our species, Homo sapiens –

fukn'lol

Basically a description of Neanderthals.

My IQ dropped just by looking at those posts.

weren't they saying the nogs were long limbed tho?

Well, the (proto-)Semito-Hamitic languages gotta have spread somehow.

Blacks are right when they say they were displaced in North Africa, only it happened 8,000 years before there even was an Egypt. So no kangs, sorry.

Yeah, the scientific fact is irrefutable by now. Large scale genetic sampling AND paleogenetics (as of now you can extract really high quality DNA from well-preserved fossils) clearly show that himanity is NOT an uniform species. Race or better distinct populations are real. Btw the defining trait of modern Europeans is the high amount of ancient Siberian genes ... also explains our superiority as these pre-neolithic populations went through hellish selective pressures, several near-extinction events and also started out (and retained) a higher amount of Neanderthal DNA from the original Cro-Magnon hybrids (and Neanders were clearly superior to the original African H. 'sapiens' both in physical fitness and intellect, only lacked in group coordination, that is why they were superceded by the hybrid Cros).

>killed with pencils
brutal

good point

Is that the "Ancient North Eurasion"? There's a boy dated at something like 20,000 bce, right?

Problem is that those "traditions of the past" are things that bring us closer to shitskin levels of society. India is the perfect example its basically the indo-european religion and society+gnosticism. Doing wonders for the poo...

This proves racism is natural.

I think that must have been the first Toyota war.

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Exactly. The Mal'ta-Buret boy, current genetic baseline for ANE. There's a lot going on in paleogenetics recently, seems thos culture was spread out over most of northern Eurasia back then.

woah, I take it they didn't read the Owner's manual for their truck. I'm pretty sure that exceeds the manufacturer's suggested weight & passenger limit.

What about this truck?

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This is why I think we need to meme the distinction between "species" and "breed." I've found some success in conveying the concept in a way that makes sense to myself and others.

Essentially, "race," as we know it, really appears to be a euphemism mankind uses for the term, "breed," which we attribute to species other than our own, such as the feline and the canine (so on and so forth). Personally, I believe that we are of the same species, as different "breeds" of Homo sapiens can breed and produce fertile offspring. However, much in the same respect that varying breeds of canine/feline express varying averages in temperament, intelligence, physical characteristics (etc), varying "races," or "breeds," or "ethnicities" (the term I prefer to use the most) of Homo sapiens express their phenotypes and genotypes similarly. It's not inconsistent with current science, and really, seems like a common sense way to meme the subject of "race realism" to normies."

Diluted down to the main idea:

> Meme "race" into "breed" into "ethnicity"
> Still remain consistent with science while framing the concept in such a fashion which is more palatable and digestible to normies
> Badda bing, badda boom!

Neandrathal also had larger brains at birth, killing the mother. They were largely outbred more than anything. Just like in my country today and the spic hoard.

Now that's just asking to get pulled over by the police and issued a moving violation.

>Oi! Time to bin that SAM lads.

Oi!

Don't live a sham.
Bin that SAM!

I find this stuff pretty fascinating but I feel like a bit of an idiot at times. I really ought to invest a bit of time in to understanding the science behind it because I'm interested in the wider field of prehistoric study. Just the nitty gritty of genetic sequencing kind of goes over my head at times.

A-are we gonna make it, th-then?

You know you can value your traditions and still live in modernity, right? Look at Japan.

I don't think Japan is really such a great example.

Why.

Of course

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Its not that traditional, in many ways it seems quite unhealthy. The weak and pathetic existence of many of their young men, for instance.

Fatty porn sure was a hit in Neolithic times. The lower right one is pretty hot though.

I agree. I wouldn't say they're more "traditional" per se. They just have a higher in-group preference, which is great for them, and they could do great things if the younger generations weren't degrading into degeneracy.

lol

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/pol can be an amazing place for us to exchange ideas... but i feel (((they))) are trying to distract us with shitpost threads that go nowhere

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notice how they are all american

Yeah, the catalog is being gangbanged by sliders right now as we speak. Serious shit going down as we make sense of the supposed Austin bomber.

the jews

Kek

ez W lads

This...

Isn't it crazy to think that 13,000 years of preservation and the defense of Europe might be going down the shitter if we don't reverse the demographic invasion?

Our ancestors will be ashamed. It's our heritage to secure our homelands for our people -- and all the great countries we founded too

Deep state patsy narrative is what they want people to focus on. Their attempts to start a race war so they can unseat the don are transparent.

This is an insult to orks. At least they are very creative and capable of quickly creting a very rough technology. Niggers never invented the wheel, orks have void traveling ships

Huh?
Wait, which is the fake narrative?

Its all fake sir. The bombing is a distraction and an opportunity to craft a narrative that whites conservatives are the real danger.

Not lately

It's an AGM pod tho

I would like to see where this is all going, the Austin bombings

Agreed. I don't want a race war, but would accept it and fight in defense of my folk if it errupted organically, but these Deep State niggers are working overtime to manufacture it so they can control the narrative and throw us into chaos in order to make an attempt at escaping justice.

We need to be ESPECIALLY vigilant and pick the official Austin Bomber story clean of the rotten meat.

>Things aimed at the ground cant be aimed at the sky.

>winning a war means winning every single battle

Islamic Spain? Turkish Balkans? Of course we have setbacks, but as long as we live we have what it takes to win in the end.

This. Its like in prison. You can go in and be mulitcult and open as much as you want but there is a base tribalism you cant escape despite your intentions. We dont hate anyone or even want to harm anyone but if we get automatically thrown onto a "team" based on race when TSHTF we have no recourse but to defend ourselves.

>rotating something slightly changes what it is

Couldn't have said it better, brother.

>the too smart for mom.

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Check'd and kek'd.

At least post the original.

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Yes that might have been true. Also think there were geneitc reasons, maybe afaption to lower food source density in Europe. Makes no sense to genetically invest into high fecundity if you cannot feed more than one or two children at once. OR it was the 'price' for another genetic adaption ... there are genetic circuits that both control brain development AND sperm production at the same time for example. Evolutionary tradeoff??

It is mostly statistics to calculate genetic distance. Rather dull methodology I think but mathfags might disagree. There are good blogs like eurogenes blogspot that give a good overview about ancient migration patterns of humans etc

Yes I think so. Our current world is too soft ... we thrive under adverse conditions. See only one problem in Europe ... when the Indoeuropeans pushed into the continent they encountered Neolith Near Eastern farmers all over the area. They replaced them mostly, both by warfare and the plague they brought (back then a less aggressive strain than that from the Black Death in the Middle ages). Still, they miced with the farmers and I think their genes are slowly becoming more prevalent in Europe due to the loss of afforementioned harsh selective pressures ... at least I explain the 'soyboy' epidemic that way. We are experiencing a slow genetic shift towards the more docile and communal farmer DNA. Also, our hunter-gatherer ancestry has downsides ... being prone to addiction as well as Asperger's. First is a side effect, second (in its less severe forms) was an adaption to hunting as it allows for mental hyperfocus. Today it is problematic unless you work in STEM research.

I'm even more focused on (relatively) recent history. For example, look up all you can find about the bronze age collapse. pro tip, it's not much. Whole societies collapse or disappear, Egypt is kneecapped and never really recovers. Centuries of writing, art, and cultural development gone in a handful of decades, and the Mediterranean world took 700 years to recover. sad and fascinating stuff

So a Caucasoid race went to war with a Negroid race, I bet the Caucasoids won and that's why North Africa isn't Negroid today.

could gave haopened any time really. Carthaginians pulled a south Africa in North Africa 2200 years ago; no tech or development till their proto-jew boats rocked up.

This, orks are crafty and inventive, they just love violence too much

So orks are basically slavs?
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>The sub-Saharan originating group had long limbs, relatively short torsos and projecting upper and lower jaws along with rounded foreheads and broad noses

4/5

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>european
>sahara
This is a funny we wuzing. Leave it to the Indepedent and other news outlets for horrible reporting.

So we basically killed them. Mediterranean master race

This is my view on the evolution of the races:

Each arrived at a time where evolution stopped or slowed significantly due to their advancement. That means that any changes that made them into who they are came before that. This combined with the required time for evolution to take place such as chinky eyes or different bone structures means a LOT of time passed since the splitting of the original branches.

With this in mind 13k years ago is nothing and the races had already pretty much stabilized to what we are today; the implication from the author is that it is enough time to make a difference which is disingenuous.

Sorry for faggoty structure am phonefag at work

Look at Brazil and the 56% of America. You don't need thousands of years to create a new race.

Key word is original and everything else is a mix; Central Asia is a gradient of admixture from Europe to Asia based on geography.

The original races were created out of evolution

this structure is cancer, take it away

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>original
There is no such thing as an original race. Evolution never stops. And convergent evolution is a possibility.

Populations that evolved for a long time with limited to no admixture outside of that group made tha races: Caucasoids, nongoloids and negroids. Everything else is more one than the other simply

Sorry Bruce I gotta kill break time

Jesus what a train wreck

Apt comparison. Neither Orks nor niggers have fathers

True Whites are genetically wired to love waffles.

underrated

So they didn't treat nigger too good back then either ?
White privilege !

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The Neanders were the original hippies , peace loving and living in harmony with nature. Also non warrior and non expansive, low population.

Nigers from Africa came and stole their stuff

the structure of their shoulder joint likely meant they couldn't throw javelins or use slings. So they might have been aggressive, but couldn't outfight the cromagnon.