How do Christians reconcile the fact that the earth isn't the centre of the universe with the fact that scripture says...

How do Christians reconcile the fact that the earth isn't the centre of the universe with the fact that scripture says it is?

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>believing in (((science)))

And you think a big bang went off and magically assembled a monkey which you are descended from?

Its the center of the observable universe.

You are free to use a telescope. Even a cheap consumer level telescope today is far superior to what Galileo used to reach his conclusions.

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Why are you avoiding my question and retorting with a strawman? You don't know anything about me and have no data to make assumptions.

Right, and that doesn't prove anything.

Those objects rotate around Earth.

Theory of gravity is out-dated

By not being literalists. The Bible is the Word of God as interpreted and recorded and translated by Man. Mistakes and misinterpretations were bound to be made along the way. Focus less on the lore and more on the message - the parables and morals the Bible offers to help us lead a good, righteous life in His name.

t. physicist

so? honestly should we be in the dead fucking center of the universe? any one point in space is the center of the universe there. and so what if we're not? we are god's children and we are here. it doesn't matter where the center might be

no matter where you are its always the center of the observable universe

in all fields

>have no data to make assumptions.
I can see your flag can't I? That is one data point.

Where does it say that in the bible?

You've identified yourself as being too stupid to be part of this discussion and I won't be replying to you again. It would simply be a waste of time. Feel free to get on your with day.
So you throw out things that contradict your world view to keep it consistent?

Eath is flat and is the centre of the universe, though.

If the universe is infinite, then everywhere, and nowhere are both simultaneously the center of the universe.

the earth was the only planet known when the scripture was written. the world's major christian churches have already said that if ayys exist, Christ is their savior too

But that's not what the scripture states. The earth is not only the centre of the universe, but it also stationary and does not move around the sun.

They don't, because it's a retarded Jew religion

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As Gods children we are at the "center of his universe like a human would describe their children as their center of their universe. Jesus is calling you. His love is eternal

>Scripture says it is
Where

Some parts of the scriptures are supposed to be the literal word of God. Why would God provide a false understanding of the universe?

the physical universe has no "centre" as far as science can tell
the human phenomenological universe is centred on Earth and probably will be until we go extinct

>sola scriptura
thats protestant tier retardation. the scripture is mostly metaphor and allegory. of course the sayings of the Master must be heeded

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But it is. That’s how light works. We’re at the center of the observable universe.

Here's some more data for you, so you don't keep making strawmans.
I'm a Christian, or trying to be one, and I believe that God is the prime mover that established the universe and all the laws of nature, including evolution.

Like an infant, religion thinks the world revolves around itself. Religion needs to move to the next level and realize that Earth is part of a galactic community.

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This though. Seriously, someone answer the man and provide the quote.

Stay on your walk brother the destination is glorious

technically, every point in the universe is the center of the universe making earth the literal center of the universe
I'm guessing this is a troll/slide thread

>So you throw out things that contradict your world view to keep it consistent
No, that's the Qaran

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There is no center of the universe. You can use the earth as a center for your calculations, but geocentrism is a lot more complicated to work with than heliocentrism, so nobody uses it anymore.

Dumb brit. Earth is flat.

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>i watch vsauce therefore im smart

You're avoiding his assertion

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Stop hate thinking bong!

Thats like saying you're in the exact middle of the ocean, because it's all you see and after all, you are in the "middle.''

They try to say the description which was to be taken literal is an allegory.

The bible makes false claims about how the Earth and Heavens were formed and how they operate. The problem with these claims is the bible is completely wrong. The bible makes three claims that has long been disproven.

1. The Earth is flat and supported by four pillers
2. The celestial bodies revolve around the earth. E.g the sun
3. There is a dome that separates the first heaven (sky) and the water.

All of these have been empirically disproven with physical laws and elements.

Here is some quotes of work done by a true Christian believer who proves that the bible teaches all three of these things. In his own words "Philip Stallings is the Founder of the Biblical Flat Earth Society, Reformed Christian Apologist, Theonomist, and a Former Seminary Student"


Flat Earth:

"It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in" Is. 40:22

"the Hebrew word used in this verse is "khoog" (pronounced chug). The word literally means, circle, circuit, and compass. In all of these words, none of them conjure up a picture of a ball. Furthermore if the earth were a ball, and God wished to communicate that here, then it would have required using the Hebrew word "dure" (pronounced dur). The Hebrew definition for dure is, a circle, pile, or ball. Isn't that interesting? If the shape of the earth was intended to be conveyed as a "ball" then the Hebrew word "dure" would have been the word used as found inIsaiah 22:18, "He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house." It wasn't used there. What we were given instead was the Hebrew word "khoog.""

"The number of verses that teach the earth is a round spinning ball orbiting the sun? 0"

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exactly

Technically that's true, but the conception of the universe was quite different in the middle ages and earth being the centre of everything was understood quite literally. Literally enough for you to be burned at the stake by the authorities.

>bible says earth is the center of the universe
Chapter and verse, Achmed?
But regardless, as the only planet in the universe that houses God's creation, Earth is the center of the universe.

Please do tell where the center of infinite space is located.

little reminder the big bang theory was invented by a catholic priest as a theory acceptable to both religion and science.

it's religion also.

atheists BTFO.

This.

The sun evolves around the Earth:

"Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. -1 Chronicles 16:30

The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. -Psalms 93:1

Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously. -Psalms 96:10
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. -Psalms 104:5"

The Firmament:

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. -Genesis 1:6

Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD's thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is. - Deuteronomy 10:14

Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. -Psalms 148:4"

Here is the link to examine evidence showing the bible making these false claims.
philipstallings.com/2015/06/the-biblical-flat-earth-teaching-from.html?m=1

Our ancestors never believed these things. It wasn't until the annihilation of our religion and schools that people believed these lies because there was no counter evidence being presented. Even when there was they were murdered by the stupid people who believed the lies of the priest.

The first time the circumference of the Earth was measured correctly was done by Eratosthenes ofCyrenein c.276 BC–c.195/194 BC was aGreek mathematician,geographer,poet,astronomer, andmusic theorist. This shows that the so-called word of God aka the Bible who talked to Moses or any other high Priest would got it right before him, but they didn't.

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WHAT A WASTE OF FUCKING TIME.

> with the fact that scripture says it is?
Yea I'm going to need that scripture there.
Please do provide. Sauce please.

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Evolution and big bang are lies by Satanists. The earth is flat and 6k years old.

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I can't believe people here are as retarded as mister garrison.

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It does not say so at all.
The bible is not a scientific textbook nor does it claim to be one.

Galileo Galilei proved the sun revolved around the sun but the false teachings of the Creator said otherwise. The church tried to shut him down for the truth which exposes the bible not being the true teachings of the Creator.

"the idea of a heliocentric solar system was so controversial that the Catholic Church classified it as a heresy, and warned the Italian astronomer Galileo Galilei to abandon it."
newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/the-truth-about-galileo-and-his-conflict-with-the-catholic-church

As for the firmament get out of here with your bs. Electric universe disproves your liquid beliefs.

Now that we have seen that the Bible is wrong on the fundamentals on how the universe works I have one question for you unholy dogs known as christians, how can you seriously see this evidence and still believe the bible is accurate about who is the Creator?


If you want to learn the true origin of Jesus click on this link and you will that the people who wrote the gospels murdered the philosopher Jessos Krishna and then said he was the son of god.

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>But that's not what the scripture states.
Chapter and verse, nigger?

Good (((argument))).

see
On top of that, the belief that the earth was central to everything, led to the belief that the earth was also stationary.

Burn the heretic.

how do you know? can you point out where exactly the borders of the universe are?

Maybe the defenition of 'universe' is different.

And I ain't no fuckin monkey from africa

where is the center of the universe?

is the earth orbiting the sun or is the universe hula hooping around the earth? relativity tells us both.

You Are Here: Earth Shines in Image from Kepler Spacecraft
Last December, the planet-hunting mission viewed our planet from 94 million miles away

scientificamerican.com/article/you-are-here-earth-shines-in-image-from-kepler-spacecraft/

It might as well be “the center of the universe” as others have already stated. All of our observations have a horizon, and in the distant future, if we’re still around, we will be able to observe less of the universe due to the acceleration of expansion. Those people will have to take it on faith that there are billions and billions of galaxies out there. There will be someone like you posting about reconciling that fact with “believers”.

>I'm a Christian,
Okay.
>or trying to be one, and I believe that God is the prime mover that established the universe and all the laws of nature, including evolution.
You're not Christian. The cathcuck church is that way, soyboy -->

>the bible says...
>this means you are a heretic

Please read a dictionary before embarassing yourself even more.

"Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. -1 Chronicles 16:30

The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. -Psalms 93:1

Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously. -Psalms 96:10
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. -Psalms 104:5"

Christians worse than jews, why because traitors are the reason jews get away with what they do.

This.
It is both here and everywhere. Alpha and Omega.
Darwin was a devout Christian.
Big Bang theory was created by Georges Lemaître, a Catholic priest.

You Are Here: Earth Shines in Image from Kepler Spacecraft
Last December, the planet-hunting mission viewed our planet from 94 million miles away

scientificamerican.com/article/you-are-here-earth-shines-in-image-from-kepler-spacecraft/

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>Bible claims Earth is the Center of the Universe
Book, chapter, and verse please.

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Earth is round and hollow, we're living on the inside side of it. If it was otherwise your shoes wouldn't tilt upwards.

Notice that this gets no responses.

There's this thing called context

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Well if you believe that Saturn use to be the sun then technically earth use to be the center.

Easy, the Earth is the center of the universe. You really believed those Jews and their Space Race BS?

Which part of scripture states the Earth is the center of the universe?

When we make a new discovery in physics that contradicts an older theory, it doesn't mean that the physics suddenly changed - the world works the way it's always worked - it's just that the person who was trying to understand it the first time misinterpreted something or came to the wrong conclusion about what it implied. It doesn't mean you can't still gain important insight from what they did.

Same with the Bible. The scriptures are the efforts of imperfect men to record the Word and Acts of God, mistakes will be made. So the world formed over billions of years instead of seven days - so what? That doesn't mean God didn't play an integral role in the creation of the world we know, it just means his role was misinterpreted by the people who wrote it down in Genesis who couldn't see the whole picture.

The worst type of Christians are people like you, ignorant and proud of your ignorance. The fact you're too stupid to appreciate the work of God is your problem and not God's.

>Flat Earth
A kike psyops. The Bible says the earth is a circle which God hangs on nothing. Go Fuck yourself you dirty lying kike, who gets his opinions from a jewgle search.

You have it backwards

Yeah look through a telescope and the ISS still looks like an indistinguishable dot. Nigger space is a meme.

bingo

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You're retarded.
The bible is talking metaphorically about the world not being moved. It's talking in the context of the world not being shaken. It's not LITERAL.
As for the firmament, that's heaven. Says he split it from the earth, and took half the waters up there with it. You can't disprove heaven. Have a nice day.

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The Bible doesn’t say the earth is the center of the universe idiot. Provide ONE reference to support this nonsense

Swiss not known for thiewr sense of humour are they.

Even the swedish are funnier.

God: "Hey you, human. Write down what I say."
Human: "Okay."
God: "Chapter One: I am God, and I created the Earth."
Human (writing): "Chapter One: God created this flat surface on which we live."
God: "Uh, okay, whatever, close enough. Okay, now Chapter Two..."

no man, you're not Christian, trad Catholics dont believe anything besides catholic teachings the faith.

Not that you would know the difference, Kiwi.

Don't you know what Alegor is?

But the idea of big bang an evolution weren't invented by them there were pagan versions of those around the times of Plato and Socrates. Also, Darwin was a racist and indeed non-whites are animals.

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there is literally no proof of your claim, only atheist lies. how can you say that the earth isint at the center of our universe without the slightest bit of evidence?

ha

If the universe is always expanding it will be at one point in time. Checkmate athiests.

>Our ancestors never believed these things. It wasn't until the annihilation of our religion
Kys, Noseburg. Youre not fooling anyone. Go suck a fart out of your rabbis asshole.

It is the only thing of value
A significant reference for center

Err...he's Australian, not a Kiwi.

are swiss brains like swiss cheese?, lots of holes?

check the flag again.

Twisting and turning to get your right, I see.
stfu with your bullshit & leave

Religion is just another form of coping.