What's wrong with communism?

What's wrong with communism?

>inb4 ussr
wasn't even communism

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You are not entitled to steal my labor/what i have produced with my labor and redistribute it

It is thought up by jews who never worked a day in their life.

What is wrong with National Socialism?

>inb4 Nazi Germany

Not real Nat-Soc

Under communism who gets the beach houses? Have never had a marxist who could answer this.

doesn't work on a large scale because it makes the assumption that the average person is incredibly selfless and would want to work their ass off to support parasites

I don't understand why people feel the need to solve all the world problems by talking about nonsensical bullshit. Go do it yourself, and you can learn how useless and stupid you are.

>What's wrong with communism?
It's Jewish.
It's anti-White.

>inb4 you never post again.

Communists only dig up that fake theory because it's a way for them to assume power without possessing any qualities or doing any work

"We are the Saviors against Capitalisme! Make us the king pls"

we can help u

National Socialism is not communism, thank god, it is just a common sense society for whites

there is being no need for beach houses comrade, much labor to be done

the ideals upon which it is founded are out of touch with nature/reality

I still don't get it, what's the point of absolute power if the system is predicated on equal ownership of everything?

I'm not getting what these people are trying to save people from?

It's a Jewish scheme to subjugate Europe.

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I would love to see a thread of Stalinists and Socialists just going at it over Mao and Stalin aye.

One group distancing themselves in disgust, the other vehemently defending the undefendable.

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>we'll give you equal ownership, goyim, we promise

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Economic Calculation problem

>Prices are generated by trade
>A trade requires two parties
>A single party owns the means of production
>A single party = no trade
>no trade = no prices
>no prices = no calculation

Wow that went right over your head

Redpill: They're not trying to save them, they're trying to rule them.

(even if they don't reallly realize it themselves)

absolutely this, anyone who doesn't see what communism is behind the sounds of the lofty ideals is beyond saving

its just another power structure for the people up top to rule, except this one is more rigid

I don't care what you think of Hitler, but if you haven't realized capitalism and communism are two sides of the same coin, you're not thinking enough

Don't know Fin, they were knocking on your door for a few years, why didn't you let them in?

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>wasn't even communism
Why is this the default that commies always use when their shit ideology is proven to be shit? Do they literally have zero other arguments?

How can you consider a hammer or a toothbrush a personal property, when in cummunism there's no property?
What is difference between personal property and private property?
If private property covers means of production, what stops me from disassembling a mean of production and claim the parts to be my personal property?
Why would you waste resource producing more than say (hypothetically) 1 hammer/toothbrush per 7 persons?

How can one cultivate and harvest crops to personal use, when there's no personal property to be used for farming in cummunism?
How do you allocate public land for this personal farming?
Who allocates the public land used by the collective?

The ten Planks of Communist manifesto:
#8 "Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture."
> Equal obligation
How can a stateless and non-hierarchical society enforce this?
> Your work-time is equivalent to everybody else's work-time
Am I forced to sit and drawn hentai for as long as others work in factory, if I don't want to do manual labour as an artist?
If "... each according to his needs", what stops me claiming to acquire 70% of goods to suffice my needs?
How can anyone else define how my needs are sufficed?
How can a collective deny me coming over demand 70% of goods that others have gathered through hard manual labour, while I can provide them only hentai sketches?
How is Theft defined in cummunist world, when there's no property in non-hierarchical society you can steal from others?

WASNT.REAL.COMMUNISM

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Two sides of what coin exactly? Like I vehemently believe that there are elites in the world that will seek power in every system, to warp it and continue to rule and we have to address them but I'm wondering what you mean when you say "same coin"?

"Anything to the right of communism is LITERALLY NAZISM"

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People would quit McDolands because the new technology is too hard.

bump

It's never been tried

It doesn't work.

ps oot vitun homo idiootti

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IT WAS COMMUNISM
they met most of the criteria set out by the communist manifesto (nationalisation of industry, moving away from an agrarian society, central planning, collectivisation eg)

COMMUNISM DOES WORK
it performs best in dire conditions such as during wars or depressions. The USSR had the highest economic growth rate during the 1930s
If there was no revolution, Russia would probably follow the same path as Finland. Industrialise by 1950s without killing anyone, but in this scenario, they would get rolled over by germany. So communism was the better option, they were able to industrialise so fast because people don't matter in communist regimes, all means justify the end. Whether it be slave labour, forcibly taking food from peasants to sell for industrial machinery, forced relocation into industrial centres. killing of the people who can't work, or killing opposition so the gears don't stop turning

Capitalism works best during exponential growth
Government Control works best during times of trouble

I bet when we have another financial meltdown or when exponential growth stops, everyone will complain 'oh capitalism doesn't work'

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Kaltases punakaartineekerit pitäs lyödä lihoiks ja myydä kiinalaisille

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