Who was in the wrong here?
RAW FULL: Dashcam video shows deadly moment self-driving uber hit, killed woman in Tempe
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wtf she literally came out of nowhere but the fat spic tranny wasn't watching the road, still don't think they could have done anything
The woman. She should've crossed where the streetlight was instead of in the dark.
no lights on bike after dark
wear dark clothes.
retards deserves only death
There's less than two seconds of visibility before impact? Definitely the idiot walking her bike.
They should charge him with manslaughter.
And nothing of value was lost.
La luz extinguido...
google obviously aka the jews for making a self driving car
lol now that i see the vid. def the biker's fault. Hoping to take down a tranny and uber with this but this aint the one.
Natural Selection hasn't been completely defeated/
self driving car
Is it a tranny?
jaywalking at night
The pedestrian was in the wrong.
What the fuck is this thing
A fucking tranny
le 56% face
doesn't cross street on crosswalk
is STILL walking slow as fuck as car is literally a few feet from her
I am guessing she didn't hear an approaching car on a quiet road at night
All your phones, your car, your electionics can be controlled by Israel.
Airplanes, Ships, EVERYTHING,.
ISRAEL IS THE ENEMY OF ALL MANKIND.
but it's not dummy. also the driver who was supposed to be monitoring was clearly asleep
the fuck is she walking in the middle of the road with oncoming traffic? stupid bitch deserved it
whatever it is, it better not procreate.
she's texting and looking away from the road
its hard to tell with middle aged hispanic women
also, s/he was clearly not paying any attention to the road
So like, yeah... Fat tranny spic is a fat tranny spic. And self driving cars need some work and all. But who in the fuck slowly walks across a street like that in the dead of night? Ride your bike to a fucking crosswalk. Wear some reflective gear if you're going to be such a fucking dumbass. What the fuck. Also, the bike had zero in the way of reflectors that I could see. Not even any in the wheels. Fucker deserved to get hit, and if it was not a self driving car, this would be a non issue. Just some dumb shit being in a road, at night, acting like everyone should just slam on their breaks for her.
its like 2 minutes long
That machine deserves an electric chair
no reflective gear
Even if Ms. 30% face was paying attention I doubt anything could be done about it.
cyclist is a fakin retard. And the driver - La criatura
She didnt see the lights of a car AT NIGHT, dumb bitch or suicide?
Clearly pedestrian at fault
honnestly if I where driving that car I'd hardly have time to hit the breaks.
She was a dumb cunt for not crossing five meters further and in the light. That would have saved her life.
The car didn't even attempt to brake tho, a human driver would have.
What the shit am I looking at?
Is she blind and deaf or something? How can she not hear a car and see the blaring headlights coming for her? I would say both are in the wrong, the lady for not using a cross walk and being blind, and the self driving car, for having shitty programming to be unable to deal with jaywalkers.
yeah i mean seems like even with most human drivers that incident wouldve happened
that dashcam is shit quality and makes it look more sudden than it probably was. if the minder had been doing her job she could have easily spotted the jaywalker way before the car hit her.
A human driving still could have spared her life, looks like the (((self-driving))) car didn't pick her up and slow down at all. Also whats the point of having a driver man these things if there just gonna sit there on their phones?
Shut this shit down
Fucking Snorlax had plenty of time to hit the breaks.
Biker's fault, she did literally everything that you could possibly do wrong here.
Don't use a crosswalk
Cross on foot rather than ride, lowering profile
At night, pitch black dark
With no reflectors on bike/person
Cross at a place with zero lighting
Be literally standing in a shadow being cast across the road
Only way she could have made it worse for herself was being on a phone at the same time, and that is still even possible here the video is just not high quality enough to tell either way.
this is the first thing I thought of when hearing the news. did the ai perform poorly or did it perform at the same level as a human driver? I don't see how anyone could've stopped in time in this situation. it might an argument for giving the car "super vision" though
A alert person would have tried swerving and hit the brakes and not plowed right into her retard
wtf are either of these things!?
I don't care who was in the wrong, I'm leaving the USA over this
Uber is in the wrong for dismantling public safety law in order to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
USA wants Uber to test civilian execution devices on American citizens
Homeless people don't give a shit. They think if they get hit it's an easy money making opportunity.
get the fuck out of the USA and don't come back
If they saw them, which was unlikely as it was night and the fucking idiot wasn't wearing any reflective gear, and jaywalking while she was at it.
Objectively speaking a human driver would hit the breaks.
get the fuck out of the USA you god damn fucking nigger
I seriously hate jaywalkers and cyclists that dart across the road with absolutely no sense of self preservation. Especially when they wear dark clothes at night.
I'm not driving around with NVGs.
wtf she literally came out of nowhere
The camera was shitty, la creatura would have been able to see it if it wasnt fucking around on its phone
You got a bout a second to react to seeing her, and slamming on the breaks. Going at about 40 mph. The biker was like <60 feet in front of the driver when she appeared.
A human would have had no way to react in time given that distance. Her only hope was if the brakes were applied immediately when her shoes were visible, which wasnt happening with a human behind the wheel.
The person at fault was her. Find a less dark place to cross.
eat shit and die
you are a god damn fucking faggot
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Biker behaved suicidal crossing like this:
not even looking for oncoming traffic
Made no effort to protect her own life.
This video exonerates the car, not even joking.
whats the point of having a driver man these things if there just gonna sit there on their phones?
Came here to post this. People clearly haven't thought this through enough to even consider actually putting these things on the road.
I don’t like self-driving cars. I also don’t like trannies. And yet I really can’t blame either one. This was the biker’s fault.
she's so clearly looking down and to the right because she's texting with her right hand and only glancing up every few seconds. i've seen the exact same move done by people i know who text and drive. this fat mocha mystery should be charged just the same as anyone else who killed someone while texting and driving.
kill yourself you fucking retard
you are suggesting that public safety can be dismantled because "homeless people are greedy"
you are absolutely fucking insane
get the fuck out of the USA, you god damn fucking nigger
Yea get the fuck out, this country is for homeless and welfare recipients
You know we see your ID right? We know these are all made by the same person.
An alert person looks both ways to check for oncoming traffic before crossing a road.
this country is for people who care about public safety
if you don't care about public safety, get the fuck out of the USA
I'm glad you did all the math and went through all the possibilities and realized it totally wasnt Jabba the Hut on her phone. True MVP right here thinking shit dashcam = human eyes (Kill yourself)
The person at fault was her. Find a less dark place to cross.
dumb bitch shouldnt jaywalk but she did it under a lit section of the road where the lamp posts were. the dashcam is shit tier quality. had the driver been watching the road she would have seen her way before the collision.
OH MOY GAWD WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT BRO
More like 20%
any decent driver would have enough time to avoid colliding with the pedestrian.
Why so triggered?
And during. You don't just look then cross and hope nothing changes. That's how you get run over.
Get the fuck out of my public safety, this welfare is for the homeless fucking nigger kike faggot
In my state the pedestrian had the right of way as far as I can tell. I also think above user is right that the dashcam makes it look more sudden than it was. Dashcams don't see the same as the human eye.
I'm leaving the USA over this
buh bye, felicia
some fucking nigger thinks it is funny to hunt down and kill americans
what the fuck is wrong with you, you god damn fucking nigger
No Americans have died yet. That lady was a jew
Public safety is dysgenic.
not before I kill your kids
tell me where you live so I can kill your family
Typically the vehicle would be at fault if the pedestrian was far enough away from the crosswalk, which in this case it appears they were pretty far away.
The idiot in the street
if i can spot deer in country pitch black while going 60 mph why could this vehicle not see the jaywalker? those are some shitty headlights, car was 20 ft away by time you could see her crossing. vehicle maintainers fault.
The biker didn't use a crosswalk and wore dark clothes.
However it's not possible(as far as I know) how to tell how visible the cyclist would have been to the human eye. Digital cameras can only pick up so much in low light conditions. It's very possible had the human driver paid attention this could have been avoided.
BUT if the self-driving car was using RADAR instead of LIDAR then this whole situation would have been avoided because RADAR doesn't give a shit about low light conditions.
Your state lets people cross the street wherever they feel like in dangerous spots, and gives them the right of way? Your state is fucking retarded.
where do you live,
tell me where you live, where your mother and father live, where your brothers and sisters live, where your sons and daughters live
post it online
Do you live in niggertown?
get some spray paint and spray it into the eyes of your children, spray it on their ears, nose, inside the mouth
choke your children to death
First day on the job, eh? you faggots are so fucking easy to spot. You are pathetic. I would kill myself if I was as bad at my job as you are.
lol reddit spacing, u lost nerd?
choke your children to death, you god damn fucking nigger
the fat cunt not paying attention
and elon musk
because way before he had any self driving out
i emailed them on multiple emails
you dumb niggers
i know you are shit
you will get it 90% there, but that's still shit you niggers
lidar and multiple polarizing filters
you need redundancy in your signal and know what mismatch means
uber didn't do this
just like making a gun that 0.01% of the time will break on hot ammo after 100 rounds, they are liable TO THE SAME DEGREE
this is the shit
YOU IGNORANT DUMB ASS NIGGERS can't fathom
oh christ you niggers better wake up you fucks
all this shit about cambridge analytica/
you fucking cunts
you goddamn fucking cunts
i reported on this almost a decade ago and fucking reported exactly how they were extracting info
you dirty filthy fucking motherfucker niggers
you better wake the fuck up and start thinking
take a hammer to your wife's face
smash her face open with a hammer
you are such a blatant kike its laughable. gas yourself
I think it's a truck driver worried about his job.
NOT ONE FUCKING WEBM OF THIS?
You fucking suck, nu-pol
Please, go back
Idk why everyone is mad at you but fuck you too, nigger
get a gun
put the gun inside your daughter's vagina
shoot the gun
pump your daughter full of bullets
I don't understand how the self-driving car didn't pick up an object right in front of it. This is a major fail for Uber
You're the type of person that thinks it's alright for a woman to wander around alone in the ghetto wearing skimpy clothes because rape is illegal.
YOU DARE get outraged over this
when NY LAW
ALLOWED RETARDS TO FUCKING DRIVE
and that LAW KILLS FAR MORE PEOPLE
YOU FUCKING DARE GET FUCKING SNARKY WHEN YOU ARE SO FUCKING IGNORANT
godgamn you filthy niggers
Fuck all of you literal niggers in this thread. Fight me irl faggots.
Whiter than you Giuseppe!
Even if the creature was in control of the car they would have still hit the idiot walking across the street in the dark with a bike with no reflectors.
Elon musk uses RADAR in his Tesla cars, which can perceive obstacles even in low light and heavy rainfall/snowfall conditions.
Google self driving cars (and I presume Uber's as well?) use LIDAR which detects obstacles via laser and cannot perform as well in low light and stormy weather.
TFW the masterminds at UBER failed to implement FLIR units into their self driving vehicles.
It's a samefag, newfag
What the fuck is that thing in the "driver's" seat? Is that thing even human? What the living, breathing fuck?
ding. also, there are supposed to be censors detecting obstacles entering the roadway. the Uber software clearly failed here, and releasing this is intended to put the focus on the unsympathetic "driver." Uber is fucked.
Who was in the wrong here?
Uber. Psychologists have shown that it isn't possible for a person to pay attention to the road like they are supposed to when they are driving a self driving vehicle. It's literally impossible to stop people from having the lapses in attention that the woman had.
he can't keep getting away with it.
The cars censers should have detected her. Darkness should only affect the human eyesight, not the technology in the car.
And this is exactly why I'll never support "self driving" cars. It's all a bullshit excuse for dumbasses who shouldn't even have a license to begin with to fuck around with their phones or do other stupid shit while driving. I'm surprised this spic wasn't smoking weed or stuffing his fatass with a burger when this happened
they're not even trying anymore.
WTF is that la creatura in the car?
Cross the street
Get shot full of RADAR waves by robot car
OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEE
SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME
THE CAR WAS GUNNA DRIVE ME
If you were in a self-driving car would you pay any attention tot he road.
Which brings me to ask: Is the driver than a passenger is a self-driving car?
Pic related. They can't jump out in traffic in front of a car, but if the pedestrian enters the road under safe conditions they have the right of way.
The driver has the legal obligation to pay attention. She is still texting and driving unlawfully. She should go to jail
this. would a tesla have hit her tho?
El creatura paid to watch the road is taking a nap.
Probably wearing earbuds. Same thing happens all the time with joggers except instead of a car to the side it's a niggers fist against their head.
How do people go about their lives with no situational awareness?
with a retard, there is legal responsibility, the retard is liable for the damage or injury
Uber is trying to be a retard and pretend it is OK to be a retard and kill people without any consequences
so this is more outrageous because a multi billion dollar corporation is claiming it can run people over like a retard and keep doing it without fear of retaliation
what is worse, a retard who runs over someone and is punished, or a retard who runs over someone and is not?
the retard who is not punished will keep running over people again and again and again and again and again and again...
But there were two people yelling, that's a lot of people
person crossing the street made every wrong decision.
in between street lamps
wearing dark clothes
not paying attention
el atrocidad had about half a second before impact. that's enough time to react, but not enough time to change anything.
Depends on the speed.
Is that a human?
Obviously the clueless woman walking across a highway at night is at fault here.
god's gift to your entertainment for the evening, user.
one difference though is unfiltered CMOS sees easily into the infrared and contrast adjustments would make the person very visible. whatever setup this car has, it clearly wasn't tested for low light driving, because shit like this would basically always happen in any city.
When either of the involved parties is a woman, then the woman. If both are women, then both.
The amermutt memes aren't true!!!
IVE BECOME SO NUMB
The bike girl wasn't anywhere near an intersection though
found the kike. you can’t stop us from having self driving cars. it’s happening nigger.
FBI want to blow up a federal building more than me
which federal building do you want to blow up, FBI?
you brought up the topic, but you didn't say what your target is
post the target, the coordinates, latitude and longitude
let me know your plans, whether you are working alone or with others, whether this is a domestic act of terror or international terror
let me know if you are planning to use nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons
provide all of the details of your plan
dude there was a college by my house growing up and my mom made a game out of how many asains would just blindly walk onto a cross walk without looking any direction but at their feet. many did. must be the Sudoku culture.. or is Seppuku culture. w/e same shit
at fault here.
No, actually it's the self-driving car software that is at fault. It's supposed to have censors to detect obstacles in the roadway.
You can see them tho, the video proves that. a human driver would have braked at that point.
You got a bout a second to react to seeing her, and slamming on the breaks.
Most drivers would have swerved, easily missing her.
he was too busy sleeping to even fucking notice
holy shit, relax bowlcut
lol fuck you for even trying to jew the Sup Forums jew
Dios mío...... la criatura intelectual americana
A human driver may have also accidentally hit the gas instead of the brake in a panic to hit the brake. Happens often.
DHS wants to blow up federal buildings more than me
DHS, tell me, how are you going to do it? you have all of the information in terms of which federal buildings watch which others
you can plan the hit, you have access
tell me the plan, post the instructions here
you brought up the topic of terror, now explain why you did that
the only reason we don’t have self driving cars is because of political bullshit. the jews and Chinese don’t want us being productive
Kikes are the ones pushing self driving cars the hardest you moron. My point is stuff like this is exactly what will happen if/when most or all cars are self driving; people who can't put their phone down for two minutes all over the road crashing into each other and other cars
Self driving car kills a kike
Give that car a raise.
i said AVOID not STOP
even under full breaking at that speed you can steer a car also.
my reaction at that distance would be to jam on the anchors and swerve left.
We just call it the school shooter now
no, it's because they don't work for shit, as demonstrated by this video. All the hype you heard in the past couple of years was just fundraising and marketing. Self-driving cars have to reach 5 9's in reliability (99.999%) or else they're not going to be a net benefit. They're not even close, because they don't work the way you've been led to believe.
doesnt even turn to look at the car when its on top of her
is this some kind of ninja vehicle?
Agreed, bitch came out of the fucking darkness right into the cars path, how the fuck did she not realize she was going to get hit?
if I say kike and nigger they'll automatically agree with me!
Self driving cars are for domesticated agenda 21 bugmen.
EVERY FUCKING TIME
Yes. That's the point. In many places it isn't jaywalking if there isn't a crosswalk around. Crosswalks are usually at intersections.
don’t help the chinese prevent the USA from advancing tech to self driving
The vast majority wouldn't hit the gas instead of the brake, how does that excuse the faulty self driving car, which objectively performs worse than a human driver.
That's about enough time to realize that there's something happening and begin to turn the wheel or apply the brake, but you're right, not change a damned thing.
Well the solution to prevent this sort of tragedy from ever happening again is obvious. Much like autonomous vehicles are better drivers than humans, we will need autonomous bicycles.
all three were in the wrong. Accidents happen when three lines of fuckery intersect. The fat Mexican felon, asleep at the wheel, the uber electronic avoidance failed to brake (one might assume the sensor needs light, and for object to be directly in front of vehicle. My recommendation is to add side sensors/corner sensors), the bicyclisting nomad out wandering the streets at midnight. Three lines of fuckery will not be denied.
I thought these cars had radar. They don't?
you even talk like a jew, at least pretend to hide it
going 40 on a straight road he had time to see her, she was walking after all
chinese are the new jew hosts, eat shit faggot. i'd trust a chinese self-driving car even less than Uber's, which is surely programmed by chinks any way, just the ones who can get into America.
walking across a dark street wearing a black shirt and jeans where there is no cross walk. bitch should have been hit twice.
Chinese and Jews hate the white race pretty much equally
Evolution happens in great leaps as well as well as in the long run.
See the russian fox experiment.
hurr durr lets hire convicted armed robbery felons to test our brand new technology
This retarded tranny had 1 jobs. Fucking sit there and look at the road. Instead he's on his phone. If he was looking up, he would have seen the outline of her shadow. You can't see it on the shitty dashcam.
The lady crossing the road is doing everything wrong, but el/la goblinx behind the wheel could have prevented the accident if he was doing his job.
You're on the correct track. The biggest problem for automated cars is human drivers - mixing the two in traffic will be a disaster as humans can bully them on the road, understanding that they HAVE to respond a certain way. in testing this has been a huge problem. self-driving cars are a trojan horse to ban individuals driving freely.
Who? The brainless liberal with a bike kind, that's who. These people actually think they could keep going because there's a law against running people over. They are really like this. Right up to the end she expected that car to stop.
That's how these people are.
FIRST MONSTER DRIVING VEHICLE
They have lidar, which is like radar but using lasers. The car shouldn't have had any issues seeing that woman, even though she was in the shadows because the lidar system makes a depth map of its surroundings
Make sure all livestock are secure in the pen, goyim! Make sure they are able to breed and thrive! Farm votes for the Jews, goyim, yes.
The car's a failure but goddamnit it tried! At least it tried to take out the kike with the faggot, what more could you wish for?~! Bring back Tay.car now.
I think a really responsive driver could have swerved, but it would have been tough to pull off and potentially dangerous.
If it is self-driving then why install the mutt creature?
You have zero evidence for this.
makes a depth map of its surroundings
That's why they say in the marketing release, of course. The video and other data suggests otherwise. They wouldn't LIE, would they? Not Uber!
You are gonna end up as Timothy McVeigh 2.0 be careful user
DIVERSITY STRIKES AGAIN
She did not "come out of nowhere"
literally on the phone while driving one of googles deathtraps
literally wearing fucking ninja camo while crawling across the fucking highway
they're both retarded but I hope they spin this so that self driving cars become illegal
which is surely programmed by chinks any way
Can't be, if they were they would've run over a lot more people by now.
Lets hope the self driving car knew to throw it in reverse to make sure the job was complete
Millions of dollars invested in technology and then they decide to save a couple of bucks by putting some fat mexican in charge of the vehicle.
You do what we say or we'll take care of you understand?
I've e-braked plenty of times ON A MOTORBIKE and not hit shit or dropped it.
that fucking thing sitting in the car, christ my sides
Looks like jaywalking to me. Anyone would've hit that fool crossing in the dark like that.
but the fat spic tranny wasn't watching the road
The car is autonomous though...
don't look while crossing
The bike cunt had it coming. The la creatura inside and the car are at no fault. Actually, they should make it so that self-driving cars mangle jaywalkers by default.
Everyone defending AI is a kike. Bye.
Uber is a horribly managed company that treats employees like shit. Wouldn't surprise me if the software was written by street poo poos for $1 an hour.
2 seconds is more than enough time for a machine to react. Uber is to blame.
It can only be attributed to human error
Eat shit, mutt.
The person at fault was her. Find a less dark place to cross.
If these cars do not have thermal imaging night vision capabilities then they should not be on the road at night.
The fact that it was dark should not matter as human eyesight was not the problem.
Lidar systems do work, its really just a question of how well the computer can interpret the data. In this case it looks like the software was fucked
which objectively performs worse than a human driver.
Videos aren't synched, so you can't necessarily prove that the driver reacted BEFORE the car hit the biker. Even if we assume that the video ends at the moment of impact then the driver reacted about a quarter second before impact which is not enough time to have hit the brakes.
Safety driver was in the experimental vehicle for a reason, safety driver wasn't paying attention.
Though even if the brake had been applied by either driver or car, impact was still likely given the low vis biker on the high speed road.
why do cyclists think that no laws apply to them? they claim to be vehicles, pedestrians, and other things to try and explain the dumb shit they got themselves into
I want em dead understood?All dead.
American women. Top kek
Honestly if you're driving, you lights should be directed further up the road than one centimeter.
Get fucking real.
Yeah, no shit you dumb Aussie faggot. Always a fucking nigger from the southern hemisphere stating the obvious. Go back to being irrelevant and infested with niggers and gooks. How are those no-go zones treating you?
finally invent jetsons cars
hand them over to goblin beaners
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet. I'm sure thermal imaging will be next. This kind of shit has to happen, people are going to get hit by autonomous cars - hit and brutally killed, for a long time coming and like the age old adage goes: "experience is only a name we give to our mistakes"
yes, and communism works in theory, too.
the deal with self-driving cars is that they have a tiny margin of error. turns out that's super hard! even if they work 95% of the time, that's a lousy ratio for a car. even crappy human drivers can hit those levels.
dash cam of passenger
lmao they better turn these into TV shows
only going 40mph
La creatura was on his phone the whole time. Had he been paying attention he would've attempted to slow down
operator fully in control
Why didn't this roastie get squashed?
She wasn't riding a bike you idiot, she was walking
Yet another dipshit cyclist
diverity hire tranny ends your automotive program
Bikers fault. End of story.
involuntary manslaughter. 100% proofed.
sad situation all around.
+ i think ((((not sure))) he stole the uber car?
so add grand theft auto to that too.
and injuring a person while committing a crime.
and that'll be good enough.
You can see the reflectors of the bike/ idiot biker right in the beginning of the video. Any human would have swerved, honked, and slammed the brakes. Probably would have saw the bitch / heard other drivers honking on the other side of the street.
Even if the bitch was hit by a human driver, the act of slowing down just prior and through the collision would have reduced the impulse of the hit. She probably would have lived. The Uber just plows right through her and continues throttling even after it hits her.
Why is Uber using such a shit-tier camera, when they could be using some infrared/ 4k/ nightvision camera? Why are the headlights aimed so poorly aimed?
holy shit what backwater shithole did this happen in?
La Beasta de Mexico
People get hit every single fucking day by human drivers, its completely the jaywalking cunts fault. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, should have got her drugs/alcohol earlier in the day or just used a cross walk.
That semi driver has insane reflexes
in the middle of the street with a bike. maybe if she was riding it she could have gotten across. or she could have gone to a crosswalk or lit intersection.
The Uber just plows right through her and continues throttling even after it hits her.
Honestly, I appreciate the moxie. I'd book one after seeing this.
The experimental piece of technology being copiloted by a genetic mistake.
They should make it law that self driving can only be under 35 or at 25 mph until technology improves.
Or even only on open highways.
Holy shit, calm down there Pablo.
They should charge him with manslaughter.
DID YOU JUST FUCKING MISGENDER ZHER??!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE
ALSO ITS CALLED PERSONSLAUGHTER YOU FUCKING CIS-NAZI.
I want to say the hideous nigger, but it's obviously the other one.
Another issue is the uber drivers who dont want this to be succesfull because they have no other skills in life to earn a living
it's all in the video. the street was lit and the dashcam quality is potato. the human eye lets in way more light than poor quality dash cams and cellphone cameras. try comparing something you see irl to the same thing filmed with a dashcam or camera phone, the difference in what you see is huge. had the diversity hire minding the car been watching the road this could have been easily avoided.
I honnestly can not define the gender of that person.
She should have been squashed. One less moron in the gene pool. The creatura took out a meth-head, so it isn't much of a loss.
welp there goes the whole point of a self driving car and manufactures know this. Every time you start the car there is a disclaimer that pops up on the nav screen to pay attention at all times even during autonomous mode. Even when the tech gets better they won't drop the disclaimer.
yeah and as a "test driver" you arent supposed to be fucking around on your phone, you are supposed to be paying attention to how well the self-driving car is doing. literally not doing her(?) job. 2 retards caused this accident, not the self-driving car as its still being tested, obviously
implying El Goblino and the bike lady aren't both mouth-breathing fucking retards
implying that they shouldn't share the blame/responsability for the accident
this is the only kind of job tranny slobs are qualified for - fucking ride along liability magnets for uber self-driving cars.
She's first clearly visible at :02 approximately 50ft away and impact is at :04. That's enough time and distance @ 35 mph to safely switch lanes and avoid the collision, but just barely.
This is a low quality video feed and the color gamut seems unnaturally compressed and dark. You can see movement from the cyclist before the feet become visible. A camera isn't a human eye. A human eye sees her even further away I imagine.
The illusion of safety is cloying.
Cyclist did cross out of nowhere, but it looks like the driver was looking at the phone. It's possible that goblin could have done more to avoid it.
You're right Pajeet, I do need to relax.
a human driver would have.
Some dumb cunt illegally crosses the street at night
You have like one fucking second to react before you hit her
Uhhh, do you seriously wish for the driver to be charged with a crime? That shit could happen to any of us.
Fuck that dumb bitch who got hit. How hard is it to cross the road? The dumb bitch wasn't even looking for cars, she essentially committed suicide.
there were no reflectors on that bike dummy.
its like one of those "disorted David Lynch" movie scenes which are being played over and over throughout the movie
Lidar is a high resolution (relatively) short range scanning device, it's perfectly acceptable if Uber says that it couldn't have seen her soon enough before impact at that speed to react.
Another possibility is that the bike broke up her silhouette in some way that she didn't appear as a solid object on the lidar scan but that's pure speculation on my part.
Because spacing my thoughts means I've never been on here.
but honestly, even though there was a single fatality this technology is going to save far more lives than it will take. Even in it's current imperfect form
Texting while driving kills another.
They will be at fault just because of that.
Uber is a gud boi
He dindu nuffin
you write just the way i'd imagine pic related to be writing
Camera sees better than a human eye, have you never used one in a blizzard or thunderstorm? taking video or pictures, not for driving obviously
90% of the driving population can react in 2.5 seconds or less. I'd say an alert person would have probably reacted and pressed the brakes right after the impact or would have started to brake and dodge a little bit at the same time taking in consideration that this modern über car has a fucking ABS so you don't have to pump the damn brakes to do a evasive maneuver.
on another note, when self driving cars become more common place will tossing a basketball in front of them be enough to bring them to a stop?
I can see many shenanigans happening when they become more commonplace
Thats a good truck driver.
Stupid fucking kids and bus driver.
I live in LA and this exact scenario happens to me almost every night. If the car can't see someone walking in the dark and it just mows right the fuck into them then A LOT OF FUCKING pedestrians are gonna get killed by these things.
You brake and swerve. You pay attention to people not in the road but beside it. I see this every fucking single day, so their "self driving" car is shit if it can't navigate a dumb pedestrian.
I'm live close. People jaywalk all time here...in fact 50% of street crossing is jay walking. I actually try to avoid night driving of the number of close calls I've had. If the Ai can't handle this then we have a problem cause this these are normal conditions in Tempe. You have assume jaywalking idiots wearing black all the time.
t. Homeless nigger, fuck you whitey
If you can not stop in time for things that appear at the edge of your visibility's reach, then you're going too fast. It's called driving over your headlights.
A person could’ve slightly slowed down if they were paying attention. Was walking so fucking slow though
The problem with people like this is the attitude that they're protected by the law. The law won't make you any less dead when some dumb chink misses the red light and mows you down on a cross walk.
Who was in the wrong here?
here in finland, this would be completely on the driver
"her" story was supported
clearly fucking around on phone
The absolute state of journalism in the modern era.
Told you already
Uber a gud boi
Lol I REALLY don't want to defend the fat tranny goblin, it 100% deserves to die, but the retard pushing the bike across the street in complete darkness, without light, across a high speed street had it coming.
Bitch came out of the darkness like the batman.
It looks like a fantasy ogre with a wig on.
Did it get lost on its way from the set of Harry Potter 12?
Obviously the clueless woman walking across a highway at night is at fault here.
not in california
Homeless shill is triggered. Here's $.02, go buy a house.
I launch an arrow into the air and it comes down and strikes someone dead.
Who is in the wrong here?
I put a blindfold on and fire a rifle and the bullet strikes and kills someone down range.
Who is in the wrong here?
I personally believe the individual who launched that device onto a road is liable for at least involuntary manslaughter.
Already planning ways to ambush the cars and steal petrol? How did you learn to use the magic word box?
Who was in the wrong? Like in most situations, everyone.
The person crossing the road at night in a dark area without any kind of reflectors, walking slow as shit, in the middle of nowhere, not checking for a car (with bright headlights).
The person behind the wheel who was not looking at the road.
The technology of the self driving car which should have easily detected the object in the middle of the roadway. Even when I was in college I worked on a project for one vehicle to follow another using both IR and ultrasonic. There should be several layers of different sensors on a self driving car with multiple layers of redundancy. Dark conditions shouldn't even matter when it comes to collusion detection.
This was confusing me. If the sensors used IR or radio waves, it could have easily detected a person in the shadows.
The woman(?) would have been able to see if she the pedestrian was paying attention. The contrast just looks bad in the video, human eyes are way better at picking up objects in that scenario.
Two reason Uber’s at fault: 1) driver is obviously looking down at phone in her right hand and laughing not paying attention and 2) lidar it forward radar should have picked that up, can’t just drive based on front image camera. Dump all the logs.
Shitty camera but that’s gotta be over 50 feet right
Wrong. The driver is not "driving" because the car ostensibly is driving itself. It has to, they're testing it. That's why this trip is even taking place. The Uber car software is clearly not advanced enough to be out on the open road with a random civilian behind the wheel as a safety catch.
Well here it is always driver's fault since you are supposed to be alert enough to avoid such a collision and have proper lights to see in such dark enviroment.
the bike crosser was not looking out, anyone could have hit them in that darkness.
lmao they both look like drug addicts
no no, read again, not some "fat mexican" but a convicted criminal armed robbery
don't americans have these kind of background checks you have to give to your employer?
alright here's your new job. Make sure this car doesn't hit anyone
kills some one
YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB!!!
I only had to lurk 3 mins
And in a year or less I've only been told to lurk moar 1 time
I'm guessing the truck had a pretty light load. That kid came so close to getting Darwined it's not funny.
not even looking in the direction of fucking traffic
I see this all the time when I drive in the city. People just walk into the road without looking. Usually heads-down in their candy crush.
Uber should get UBER SUED up the ass for this.
It's my understanding that pedestrians are always in the right and any city driver knows this is a regular happening on city roads.
ai is already murdering druggies
damn it's efficient
one is a drug junkie
the other a 0.56% goblino
Only if you’re white
I live near where this happened, that bitch on the bike constantly rummages through local dumpsters for w/e the fuck they rummage for. Good riddance, its like a stamping out a cockroach
SJWs killed vidya
SJWs killed computer programming
SJWs killed bridge engineering
SJWs killed self-driving cars
SJWs are probably going to end space travel too.
mfw we will never explore the universe and instead die on this planet because of SJWs.
I pretty much don’t give a fuck what the fucking thing “is” that is stationary in my lane while I’m going 70, I want the fucking car to avoid hitting it. It’s just that fucking easy. I know it’s complex and of course humans make mistakes myself included. But they should be on test tracks until the shit is ready for prime time.
That said I’m happy to have Caliphornia be the place where they test these, as long as Cali faggots and leftist hags are dying. Nothing of value was lost.
This is Uber. They probably have shitty chink ultrasonics interpreted by Pajeet built AI.
Pitch black can be easier to see in than an urban environment when you have lights blowing out your dynamic range.
oncoming car's head lights produce no heat above background
ONCOMING CAR produces no heat above background
pedestrians are the warmest thing in the city
yeah but isn't "uber" like one of these "fancy all ((white))" companies that has big interest in having workers that look like real human beans, just like apple or something?
This Uber company probably lost alot of stock because of this, and this goblin face makes it 10 times worse
You mean a driver has a duty to control bis vehicle?
Remove drivers naow
Say all car insurance companies everywhere.
Jokes on you Ubers cars are Volvos which is a Swedish company owned by Chinese car maker Geely these days.
You're cucked regardless.
it is the same here except when there's money to be made
there are tax incentives for hiring criminals who go through workforce preparation programs towards the end of their sentences
Wrong. The driver is not "driving" because the car ostensibly is driving itself. I
Illegal in finland, you set such a vehicle into motion you're personally responsible
capitalism has failed
so the uber car just did a public service.
Lidar is an active system like radar is. It shines out an infrared laser and looks for the reflections, it doesn't depend on ambient light.
That thing is a she?
What the hell, I thought it was a fat mexican man.
the super epic superman music made this look much less professional, man americans what is it with you, i thought you're pros at this
This is way off. Human reaction time is around .25 seconds. At 70MPH, you're going 102.7 ft/s. It would take you 25.675 feet to react. The vehicle in accident is a Volvo XC90, it stops from 70MPH to 0 in 183ft.
208-209 feet is more accurate, assuming one would need to decelerate to 0 to avoid the bicyclist (they would not) or not hit them with such force that it kills them.
They didn't anticipate this sort of thing?
Be careful because what you wish for others comes upon you
the release of this video is part of a PR offensive by Uber to distract people away from the failure of the "self-driving car" to correct for this situation. If the public realizes that the self-driving car hype is bullshit, Uber's stock will tank. They are already hanging by a thread reputation-wise. They are responsible. The other two are behaving exactly as one would expect humans to behave every day on the road.
thinking distance still applies
oh i heard of that, how good for all the proper 1 millions (estimate) proper non-criminal jobless people
She should have been using high beams.
Still I think the pedestrian is at fault for expecting other people to perform above and beyond to save their suicidal ass. As the actual cause of the problem, the pedestrian should be the one held accountable. It's possible le creatura could have done more, but anyone could have hit the idiot.
he doesnt, semis in the eu all have mandatory automatic brakes
I mean sure it’s not 99% brown drivers like taxis but none of the Uber’s I’ve been in had white drivers
So do all self-driving cars have to be loaded with liability (mystery) meat?
holy shit you're stupid. it doesn't matter who assembled the doors and the transmission, faggot. those things aren't driving the fucking car. Lousy software written by your chink cousins is.
Sleeping tranny has better reflexes than autonomous car with night vision radar.
Wow, self-driving cars are even crappier than I ever imagined.
good if i was a local pest id want the universe to stamp me out too, luckily i take pride in myself to elevate beyond being a dumpster diving mongrel
You have to take in consideration time of the day, alertness level and so on it just adds a lot more to the braking distance. Especially since it is an unpredictable encounter.
it's perfectly acceptable if Uber says that it couldn't have seen her soon enough before impact at that speed to react.
bike broke up her silhouette in some way that she didn't appear as a solid object
the problem is not the failing to detect a person or bike, the problem is the automated system should've detected an obstruction and at least attempted to slow down for that one and a half seconds. That did not happen here even if the bike fucked with the system somehow.
if the LIDAR system was not functioning properly the car should've been unable to be put into automated mode. That is basic automobile engineering.
THIS ISN'T FINLAND YOU MONGOLOID. Uber has to get special permission to run these tests on the road in the state/municipality where they take place. As a part of that they assume liability because it's a fucking test. The municipalities are idiots for approving it, but they're getting bribed surely.
If this dashcam represents actual car vision, they need to slow the FUCK down.
Even if the homeless shlob is breaking every law in the book, every vehicle on the road needs to be able to respond to unexpected things. Its a completely flat road with no obstructions to visibility.
I absolutely agree. I'd also contend that the untermensh in the car ALSO did everything you could possibly do wrong as well.
Well, I for one feel slightly safer with BOTH of them off the roads.
Wait a second. There's also the retard behind the wheel as well.
That dashed line indicates that there's an intersection up ahead, which should mean extra care.
Teslas have radar. These don't.
now you're talking about the "uber users", this guy was obviously hired specifically by the Uber company
I honnestly can not define the gender of that person.
as you normally should in an equal world
of course - they're not approved for street driving and frankly they're not ready for live world testing either. I bet you a dollar that Uber bribed the city council in this town to approve the testing.
Human reaction time is around .25 seconds.
That's responding to something instinctively; analyzing and reacting to something while driving takes a minimum of .7 seconds to react and start breaking, with an average of around 2.3 seconds. In other words, dead cyclist.
All this bullshitting about distances and time of day etc. The fucking goblin was doing what too many people do while driving; looking at the fucking phone. It needs to be illegal nation-wide. Worst offenders where I live are White gashes in SUV's.
European style signs
Yes. Manufactures will make sure that you are always responsible. When you buy the car you sign a shit load of paper and im sure one of them is a liability waiver, That sandwiched with the on screen warning to pay attention leads the manufactures 2 steps ahead for being blamed during any suit for inattentive driving
rare quality leaf post. congrats, bud.
There was no mistake. The car decided jaywalkers are a plight on humanity and took her out.
That is basic automobile engineering.
listen to this user. the system here has failed miserably in a predictable way in an extraordinary common situation. It's devastating for the self-driving car meme.
Which is in itself an automated driving system.
all the responsibility
none of the enjoyment
A sign of the times.
It is impressive, but again, I wonder how much load was that truck carrying? If that truck was hauling a full load of steel I beams, could it still stop that fast?
that's pointless. you can't sign away your rights - in this case the argument is simply that the Uber car failed to meet the reasonable performance expectation.
they need to have a driver in the seat for it to be legal. they're supposed to be able to take over in an emergency, due to the tech not being developed to a high enough standard yet.
Some black surfaces absorb the lidar instead of reflecting it though. The camera would probably not be a good backup in this situation.
Not quite. Max braking effort will leave nothing for steering. Almost max will give you some steering, and maximum total G loading can be attained with a mix of both. Modern ABS and stability controls can help with this.
tfw when taytay is reincarnated as a self-driving car app
Jewber is at fault
you'd need a system to manage the weight momentum - this would be very fuel intensive unless it was using some kind of regenerative approach, which seems possible. Volvo does actual engineering and could have come up with a good system. Essentially the carriage holding the load has its own breaking/counter-momentum mechanism to prevent the car from being pushed forward.
Not high speed, 29 MPH. Driver already a felon, piece of shit from the go. Pleanty of time to slow, but biker was in the wrong too.
I see plenty of shitbags in dark clothes at night on the side of the road, mostly in Shitville Ohio.
while driving takes a minimum of .7 seconds to react and start breaking
For you maybe. Even on potato quality video, you can see the bike right at the beginning, giving anyone 5 or more seconds to do something. Self-driving car didn't react at all.
No one has a good method these days
The goymachines know.
We don't have a model of how drivers licences for self driving cars might work.
you can't sign away your rights
Call it a condition of the sales or rental contract. The people making this are going to want to push the responsibility as much as possible away from them.
One trick is that I expect Uber to try to make the passenger effectively the licenced driver. Turn it into a temporary car loan situtation.
we're a long way away before any car maker will stick their neck out and say "this car is crash proof"
Hard to tell how fast he was going. Appears to be an uphill, that aids braking both by gravity and by transferring weight onto the rear wheels, allowing them to do more braking than they would achieve on a flat surface.
First, give the tranny goblina a medal for dispatching the (((Herzberg))) drug addict
Then, execute the tranny goblina for allowing the self-driving Volvo to be damaged
Win/win/win for society.
1) stay in the crosswalk
2) execute all trannys
I want to paint a tunnel make them drive into the side of a mountain like Wiley C. Coyote.
Or weld a hitch on one and hook my car up to it.