Hey Sup Forums I had a question. Do you think the increase in people becoming gay, or trans...

Hey Sup Forums I had a question. Do you think the increase in people becoming gay, or trans, uncomfortable in their own bodies or with their biological gender, this increase in this idea that there's more than 2 genders, pretty much everything that goes against what is normal (i.e. continuing the existence of our species through reproduction) has anything to do with the food that we eat? Chemically enhanced foods, for example, exposure to it at a young age can cause mutations in the brain?

It was something I was thinking about.

Attached: caitlyn-jenner-skin-cancer.jpg (767x767, 151K)

Other urls found in this thread:

discord
archive.is/Uajwi
archive.is/9sqNr
archive.is/0I0EO
archive.is/grwgp
archive.is/uPIbi
archive.is/oJS6y
archive.is/gK3Si
psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites//rainbow/html/facts_mental_health.html
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X1500085X
prc.utexas.edu/nfss/documents/NFSS-study-design.pdf
prc.utexas.edu/nfss/documents/NFSS-codebook.pdf
icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/ICPSR/studies/34392
berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2000/03/03-29-2000a.html
dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2847542/People-open-homosexuality-higher-levels-social-hormones.html
abc.net.au/science/articles/2003/07/03/892229.htm
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

It's because of chemtrails, GMOs, electromagnetic pollution, chemicals in the water that turn the frickin' frogs gay, niggers, shit usury-based economy, and everything else.

Common denominator: all things pushed by the evil satanic Jews.

Attached: FrankfurtDiscriminatingTolerance.jpg (1920x1080, 1.85M)

I has to do with people forgetting about God.

Get out bible humper

are we turning the frogs gay? so what else

I think our self-domestication(read: sexual selection for low T) combined with our relative economic comfort/safety and propagation of an attention seeking culture through social media has caught up with us. Food most definitely does play some sort of role though, as well as the sheer amount of chemicals we consume through plastics every day of our lives now. I'm sure the advent of birth control has had some affect on us as well, seeing how it's not uncommon for it to get into our water supply.

It's to do with modern society, being an extremely far left/libtarded, demonizing and chastising masculinity and manliness.

Chemical imbalances due to phytoestrogen and (((cultural influences))). Look up Magnus Hirschfeld.

dick=-guy pussy=girl both=wft operation =dear god Nooooooo!

If this was the 'dark ages', gays and other mentally disturbed people would all spend the rest of their lives in subterranean prison cells and our cities would be standing on the bones of these sodomites.

Only then would we have redemption.

Mental illness

It's probably a trend.

Trannys everywhere!

Attached: Nicola sturgeon.jpg (590x393, 27K)

>bible specifically says don't do all this degenerate shit people don't like about modernity
>"REEEEEEE kikeonstick fags go away!!!!111"

I personally believe it is the over simplification of Freuds view of psychology and sexuality (all complexes come from sexuality) put to practice, most of the traits that identify of these "genders" have nothing to do with sexuality (wether or not you have a dick and what makes it hard) and sound more like personality traits (this goes for everything outside of the binary, mtf and ftm I consider to have causes of their own outside of the genders that are not within the binary of male/female)

Because Politics has been pushing group identity so hard (youre a man/woman, and as a man/woman these are your problems despite your individual experience) a lot of these people felt like "well I'm not experiencing those issues so I'm probably not a man/woman" then some philosophizing later you can come to the subjective conclusion that, if your gender determines your issues, then all sets of issues come with their own gender

It is subconciously a resistence against identity politics without the concious understanding of why, the subconcious desires to be an individual and will force the ego to express that, the more intensily the subconcious "believes" (as far as it can) that individuality is endangered the more extreme the ego will express this believe by declaring oneself as an identity in ones own right

Tl;Dr it is because identity politics values identity over individual that individuals come up with new identities which are personal to them so their voice is not lost

Its a tragic thing to see something resist with good reason what it does not understand

Sound is masculine and feminine.
You betas, choose wisely then.
Food is also negative/positive - high/low, acidic or highly alkalinity. and then there's genetic influences from parents or relatives, even siblings and co associates {public education/medical centres}...
^Chemical imbalances. Without doubts, cultural influence also has a role.

Where does it say anything against trannies, Mr. expert on a totally not jewish religion?

No its a psy op designed to destroy the fabric of our society from the inside out.

This way when the barbarians come crashing through the gates, we’ll all just bend over and take it up the tail pipe instead of standing and fighting

Ya'll realize being a tranny in the past generally wasn't acceptable, right?
Might have something to do with the "increase", just sayin

discord gg/XuevgZq

add a .

Attached: Pic4.png (957x1024, 73K)

I think it's simply mental retardation brought about by genetic defects of the brain, maybe throw in a little childhood trauma and BAM, suicidal depressed faggot/tranny. They should kill themselves, regardless of the cause.

It increased the idea that our masters can do whatever they want with us.

Statistics on gays and marriage:

archive.is/Uajwi

Science on gays as parents:

archive.is/9sqNr

The benefits of gay marriage:

archive.is/0I0EO

Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:

archive.is/grwgp

Does conversion therapy work:

archive.is/uPIbi

HIV information:

archive.is/oJS6y

Are gays more likely to be pedophiles?

archive.is/gK3Si

Is being gay a mental illness?

psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites//rainbow/html/facts_mental_health.html

Attached: GayChildMolestation.png (2290x1080, 345K)

T-H-R-E-A-D-K-I-L-L-E-R

Intelligent and informed posts like this have no place on /pol. What were you thinking?

Don't care, faggot.

This trans phenomena has been present all the way through recorded history, in every country, in apparently the same percentage of population. Very much like all other mental illnesses.

It is a mental illness. Those people need help, not acceptance.

Multitude of causes, but the solution is rope or GTFO.

I think it's a fashion trend like a mullet, or a reaction to loneliness.

I think in 20 years time we'll look back and think wasn't that a silly time.

I think a lot of these petulant children will grow out of it if/when they get a hard dose of reality, like the way a young 'revolutionary' or 'communist' grows out of it when they get a decent job, have money and suddenly don't believe in redistribution of wealth.

I'm almost certain young people are becoming part of the whole LGBT (Q? Wtf even is the Q?) to feel like part of something bigger because even at 16-18 they hate their fairly shit, average life and don't want to be part of the crowd. They want to stand out and get attention. It's why I was sickened at the reduced restrictions and waiting systems regarding hormone treatments and gender 'reassignment' (read: mutilation) because young people are stupid.

Be honest, when you were 18, what sort of stupid socio-political ideas did you have and what quality of personal choices did you make? It's like how so many people grow up and gradually shift right politically, because they get a dose of reality.

As for being uncomfortable in their bodies, that's self conciousness going unchecked and a bit of mental gymnastics. It's like a modern 'learning difficulty' where instead of a clip 'round the ear, being told to shut the fuck up and get on with it, they get 8 pills a day and become a drooling drone.

Mark my words, in 20 years this will be recognised as the 'weird' point in Western social history and be much more of a non-issue.

idk man I've picked up reading and it feels like I've entered a rabbit hole I cant get out of
>Send help

Attached: giphy (3).gif (400x267, 1.56M)

Neither was faggotry in many places yet there is a historical precedent of gays in almost every culture and little to none for trannies. No, eunuchs dont count as historical trannies and that makes up 99% of all the ones modern day trannies claim to descend from.

>what is good and necessary consequence

You fail

- yes, some foods act as estrogen, some additives are endocrine disruptors, etc. point being these chemicals alter your body chemistry
- that gets compounded with mental illnesses, (((indoctrination))) from young age, (((mass media))) etc. and voilla: trans / homo population increases

discord gg/fQgbuY

add a .

Attached: Pic.png (957x1024, 957K)

Look, all I know is that I grew up with a step dad having no interest in being a father. My mother taught me to hate the company of females, herself most of all. Any attempt at normal socialization was sabotaged.

Guys were nice to me. I could talk to guys. Guys stood up for me because they knew my home life was hell.

If theres a biological component to it, I dont see how it matters. I accepted that I liked making males happy. I get a high from seeing normal men feel like gods and unleashing the male animal they are taught to be ashamed of with girls.

Im fully aware that society needs more normal men making families and Im all for it, but that time passed for me. I know the only social value of a faggot is no different than that of any whore, and theres enough of those too. I dont exist to solve the problem. Im just here to make them feel better until they sort this social shit out, and when it finally turns, yeah, Id probably be at the end of a rope, and thats fine. The first rule and guiding principle of a faggot is selflessness. Mankind is a gift and better to have lived and get lynched to see them regain their birthright in this twisted world than to see this war on humanity under the rule of an alien oppressive culture go on.

And then I have to come here and listen to people who legitimately think its plastics that create faggots and not the absolute state of things.

PS- porn is killing your/our society way faster than anything some cumdumps can do. It seems everyone has quietly turned gay for their hand. The lack of release is suppose to piss you off enough to demand change, not settle for pornhub every night until your 40 and its stops working.

Attached: Polyester.webm (640x360, 466K)

Hormone disruptions are to blame, it's been proven that faggots have a hormonal imbalance.

Attached: estrogen.png (877x2078, 112K)

Didn't think bisexuals were worse than lesbos.

Attached: family.png (971x823, 87K)

Sage

The sample IS faulty though:


1. A non-negligible number of respondents were miscounted as having been raised in LM or GF households. The sources of these potential errors—which we estimate to exceed one-third of Regnerus’s subsample of LM and GF—were the inclusion of individuals whose highly implausible responses to other questions call all of their responses into doubt, individuals who reported living in these households for a very short period of time, and individuals whose responses in the calendar data were incompatible with the original categorization of being raised in a LM of GF household.

2. A number of other methodological and modeling decisions made by Regnerus—decisions that have plausible alternatives that at minimum should be checked to assess the robustness of the patterns—appear to artificially inflate the differences between LM/GF and IBF households.

3. Once corrections to these potential coding errors and alternatives to these methodological choices are made, the putative disadvantage in the outcome profile of respondents from same-sex parent families (both single-parent LM and GF house- holds and two-parent LM and GF households) decreases dramatically—with some of the remaining differences not ‘‘sub- optimal’’ (e.g., whether or not the respondent identifies as entirely heterosexual and the number of other-sex partners) or a function of one or two influential cases.

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X1500085X

88 out of 248 of the respondents that were counted as "Parents are of the same sex" responded that their parents were never in a same sex relationship while they were living with them though they had same sex relationships while they were growing up, ie their parents divorced and they ended up with the straight parent but they were still counted as having parents of the same sex

Source
>prc.utexas.edu/nfss/documents/NFSS-study-design.pdf
>a. Parents are of the same sex
219 active and 29 withdrawn panelists, from Page 3
>prc.utexas.edu/nfss/documents/NFSS-codebook.pdf
>S8 Did you ever live with your mother while she was in a romantic relationship with another woman?
40 said no, from Page 4
>S9 Did you ever live with your father while he was in a romantic relationship with another man?
48 said no, from Page 4
Yes, that is the official study results

icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/ICPSR/studies/34392

I hear that monstrosity is turning itself back into a man

I can tell you that my trap/shemale autogynephilia gets a lot worse when i consume a lot of dairy, must be all that progesterone

Many western trans are autistic white males

Attached: 1515972330995.jpg (1600x2382, 1.01M)

>Hormone disruptions are to blame, it's been proven that faggots have a hormonal imbalance.

Most of these trans are not remotely homosexual. They maintain their heterosexuality.

If they get off on having sex WITH men while dressed as a woman, that is different to being attracted TO men, which is what women and gay men experience.

There's no evidence that swallowing a few hormones and dressing like a woman, changes sexual orientation.

>If they get off on having sex WITH men while dressed as a woman, that is different to being attracted TO men, which is what women and gay men experience.

What do u mean

Yeah, but saying its a hormonal balance doesn't mean anything unless you can say what it is and how it works. There is no hormone cocktail I can make you that will turn you gay.

This has been the problem with biogenic explanations is that they dont really explain anything. All they do is distract from cause-effect problems that seem like too much work for society to take responsibility for.

For example:

Here we see a graph that conveniently leaves out step parents. Because that might skew the picture. Heterosexuals literally produce children who end up same sex attracted, moreover, kids who later decide to make a public life out of it, and then blame drinking water and baby bottles.

Its not a hard path of cause-effect reactions to follow. Sexuality is a reflection of pre-sexual socialization. People dont like admitting cultural influence because no puppet wants to see its own strings.

You have no idea how much shit I get from other fags who insist its some sort of fucking mystery, as if they cant recall making the decision to suck dicks. The fact that you find someone attractive has nothing to do with choices or else there would be no possibility for fidelity in a relationship.

That graph conveniently doesnt isolate same-sex couples either, it blends 'gay' parents into whatever dysfunctional couples they may have been in with the opposite sex. I can tell you right now where the problem with gay parents are. They cant make coherent life decisions, think they can publicly live as sodomites and raise kids, based their early life on antisocial egoist identity and then later thought they could 'normalize' by making a half-ass attempt at imitating straight couples, and adamantly refuse to admit their previous life decisions fucked them over so they teach that its alright to the next generation to make themselves feel better about their own shit decisions...

Goddammit, 'gay' or 'straight', people have to start taking some responsibility for their decisions instead of staring at molecules looking for explanations that they have absolutely no intention of applying as a solution. Its just another attack on logic and reason.

I think it means they are more turned on by the filthy act itself, and by their own degeneracy, than by their sexual partner.

>What do u mean

Women and gay men can fantasise about men sexually in the abstract, a man on his own being an object of desire.

A straight man who transitions / crossdresser who has sex with men, is enjoying sex while being penetrated as a woman, but this plays into their autogynephilia. They do not desire men for their own sake. Versus a gay guy who thinks about dick and muscular torsos 24/7.

Makes sense.

Any insights on how to cure my shemale autogynephilia? Been supressing it for like 5 years now but it always comes back rearing its ugly head eventually

Stop fapping, start living?

>swallowing a few hormones
We are talking about an hormonal imbalance, not swallowing hormones to induce changes in the body.
>having sex WITH men while dressed as a woman
Yeah, faggots having cosplay, nothing new.


Sure it does, it means that you start fancying sex with males, who with their higher testosterone count than females start to attract you.

It's even been proven to start working while you are in the womb.
berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2000/03/03-29-2000a.html

The graph also generalizes, for such are the ways of science, no one cares about individuals when you have to look at the bigger picture.

Attached: soy.png (637x825, 345K)

>I think it means they are more turned on by the filthy act itself, and by their own degeneracy, than by their sexual partner.

When for example, the autogynephile trans on Sup Forums or Reddit talk about wanting a BF, it's done in a very clumsy way. They don't actually like men, they like the idea of having a BF, because boyfriends are what "real women" have.

Some of the "chasers" buy into this, and it becomes very awkward to observe from afar, because the chasers are trying to romance these "transwomen", who do not lust after them. They "talk past" the trans and it's all very weird.

At the end of the day humans do not want to be alone; an autogynephile trans and a socially awkward male partner may be a good match for each other if they share interests, etc.

>Yeah, faggots having cosplay, nothing new.

They are not faggots. It is an important distinction. Any sexual contact between a trans and a male is homosexual by nature, BUT neither participant is attracted to men (at the most, the male participant is bisexual).

>Sure it does, it means that you start fancying sex with males,

Which is a way for a heterosexual male crossdresser to satisfy his autogynephilia

If a male wants to fuck a male testosterone is still higher than estrogen
If a male wants to get fucked by a male and acts like he is a woman, his estrogen count is higher than his testosterone.

Not much difference britbong, hormonal imbalance is causing it. You start eating a lot of soy and stevia and you might start liking gay porn.

Theres all sorts of psychogenic causes for convergent behavior, so people assume the same behaviors can all be explained with the same origin, and you're right, that is in error.

There is also so much resistance to basic realities because people dont want to be associated with the wrong things or ideas. The most common deliberate mix up is the idea that guys who use traps are attracted to males. They are attracted to females, which is a precursor for an elaboration on a second sexual tangent, the feminizing of males, which is a separate dynamic predicated on the first.

I used to think it was a myth that there were guys who were in no way interested in men and yet fascinated with sucking dick. Its sounds like an excuse, but I learned that, no, there appears to be a small segment of the population who, for a variety of reasons from humiliation fetishes to worship of penises, actually love the idea of sucking dick even if men repulse them. They dont necessarily act on it, and probably most of them dont. I just mean that if they did, you would call it a homosexual act, but at least one participant isnt attracted to males.

Males are diverse sexually and up to an age, can sexualize anything without even trying. Males have sex with males often just out of drunkeness, deprivation, daring.

My experience is that most homosexual activity occurs between homosexuals, but the overwhelming majority of males who have had a homosexual experience aren't in fact homosexual.

Much of what guys do sexually is no more complicated than the ones who get drunk and go home with fat chicks. They arent attracted to fat chicks, but they dont like blue balls either.

Attached: 1435099620095.jpg (604x453, 95K)

Try to understand it. Everyone longs for honest love more than anything, but has psychological hang ups preventing him from obtaining it. For most people it's not as extreme, but it's still there. Bad fantasies, masochistic or sadistic thoughts, etc., which cause us to never be fully satisfied because after sex or masturbation we will have a feeling of emotional emptiness or disgust. Don't deny yourself pleasure, but don't allow unhealthy fantasies. When experiencing pleasure, let your energy be totally focused in that area of the body, then at climax let it return to the rest of your body. This is the cure for just about everything.

>My experience is that most homosexual activity occurs between homosexuals, but the overwhelming majority of males who have had a homosexual experience aren't in fact homosexual.
>Much of what guys do sexually is no more complicated than the ones who get drunk and go home with fat chicks. They arent attracted to fat chicks, but they dont like blue balls either.

Endocrine imbalance is in most cases but temporary.

Attached: žs.jpg (441x280, 34K)

I eat literal garbage and I'm built like a tank with a huge dick. I think it has to do with genetics and enviromental factors.

Subconciously, men know women have it easy, that's why weak minds gravitate to this stuff. Liberals promise them a world where everyone is nice no matter how morally fucked and retarded you are. This appeals to retards obviously, so they congregate. What you are witnessing is called polarization, everyone is forming battle lines on the ramparts. Figuratively speaking.

It’s largely the result of percasive propaganda.

The weak minded tend to do what they’re told or encouraged to do.

wouldnt doubt food contributes, as does porn, just look at autogynephilia

Attached: 643166.jpg (1280x720, 65K)

DONT REPLY TO BAIT THREAD YOU FANGOS
FKING REDDIT - SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE

There is no matrix to form sexual attraction in the womb. There just isnt. I can sit here and give umpteen reasons I know why I like males and people wont believe me. People will just say "well, sure, its your hormones making you think you like males", which completely dismisses all the causal associations that I am aware of in my own head.

I am strictly a passive fag. I've been on top, Ive been with chicks, and I know what I prefer. I know how I think. I know where I got the ideas and how they formed. I know how I felt when I had my first crush. I know why I felt that way. If you say there is hormones, specific ones, without laying out the path, then you are also ruling out everything else, including other biology.

Further, it does nothing to explain lesbians, late in life gays, prison sex, experimentation and all the other million factors.

There are two agendas at work. One is to claim biogenesis because it excuses dubious parenting, and it also treats fags like a disabled class. It also solidifies the idea that normal males enjoy special biology. But theres a third agenda no one will ever, ever talk about.

If you did actually accept causal developmental origins for homosexual interest, you are also laying out how heterosexuals are formed by reverse. If I know XYZ chain of factors will produce homosexual interest, than I am also showing how heterosexuality is formed in reverse.

And that notion is repugnant and terrifying to the majority and culture, because heterosexuals want to romanticize their existence, and the majority rules. No one wants to feel like they are the product of influences they had no control over. They believe it is Gods will. Or natures mandate. That we are above the same tricks you can train dogs with. Like I said, no puppet wants to see its strings...

.

... There are anatomical factors also. The emotional high a female or fag gets from being nailed is different than the high a male will get from nailing someone. And personality has a biological component too, true. But its not specific to sexual interest. A passive male is not necessarily homosexual. An aggressive female is not necessarily homosexual. The same personality that can produce a homosexual can create a heterosexual interest in situational circumstances. This is how you end up with modern heterosexual males who like being dominated by women while others like feminizing traps through domination.

I g2g, thanks all for good discussion

discord gg/XuevgZq

add a .

Attached: Pic5.png (960x960, 1.26M)

Alright well I have to go. When I get back, I would like to read any thoughts you have on twin studies where one lives as 'gay' and one doesn't.

Or where homosexuals derived from before the age of plastics, and if its all true, than why should pro-fag propaganda be avoided if its all determined by hormones anyways. If there is no choice involved, why bother fighting pro-fag propaganda?

If its true that its all hormones, than theoretically I could try to twist teen agers with all sorts of fucked up ideas about their future and sexuality and none of it would matter or have an effect because their hormones already made the decision for them.

g2g take care, & ty

>Further, it does nothing to explain lesbians, late in life gays, prison sex, experimentation and all the other million factors
Hormonal imbalance works both ways, pesticides being a big contributes to that, unlike the high estrogen foods I have linked. That's how it also works on women.
Late in life gays become so due to estrogen poisoning and endocrine imbalance.
Prison sex is rare and we both know they get McDonalds tier shit food. Had you read the "estrogen" pic you would note that.
Experimentation is yet again due to a hormonal imbalance, as most diets are never stable and if you have a stable intake of soy for example, you do turn gay.

Also, your preaching about culture to someone that does not care about faggots or culture is quite irrational, anecdotes make for cheap arguments, ad hominems even worse so.

fapping makes me physically ill tho so cant do that

>one lives as 'gay' and one doesn't.
Did you even read that link? That study even further more supports my claim to a hormonal imbalance caused by endocrine disruptors.

>homosexuals derived from before the age of plastics
Plenty of sources before that, lead being popular in Roman times, never cared enough to go further into history than that.

>why should pro-fag propaganda be avoided
People like seeing those that look and act like them. Why go and upset them by forcing some silly half naked marches on the streets? Even protests make people uneasy in most cases. Protests are overall bad for the public and those that upset the vast majority are even worse.

>I could try to twist teen agers with all sorts of fucked up ideas about their future and sexuality and none of it would matter or have an effect
Probably not, but your diet would do a lot to influence him, even your water would do a good job. They even found literal hormonal disruptors in our water supply last month.

Do read the last to sources, should speak volumes. And try following the "estrogen" image and a high testosterone diet for a year, you will be amazed, have seen it work in person.
dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2847542/People-open-homosexuality-higher-levels-social-hormones.html
abc.net.au/science/articles/2003/07/03/892229.htm

>has anything to do with the food that we eat?

No not really as far as gays go. I don't think it's changed any. The only thing that's changed is the openness. Sup Forums has this habit of dreaming how great the 50's were. Or how life was more pure in the 1400's. But I hate to break it to ya, the same percentage of men participating in gay sex is roughly the same as now. They just tried harder to not get caught. There were some times and cultures that it was harder to do and get away with, but that doesnt mean the urge wasn't there.

As far as trans go, this has always been a human condition too. Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca wrote about it on his "exploration" through America to Mexico. Writing back to the King at his bewilderment over some of the feminine men that had been taken as wives but other men. They performed all the female duties. This also happened in Asian and south American countries.

Difference is now you got hormones.

Attached: dream girl.webm (480x480, 1.82M)

When women are ovulating they desire a strong man. When they are not ovulating they desire a weak man. With birth control they don't ovulate. Run with that for two generations and their in all the estrogens and plastics and garbage passed on us and you get Caitlyn Jenner.

Because pic relared.
If you search the archive that user also said that once female beauty has been converted to a set of products, men started purchasing it and becoing trans.

Attached: brazil.png (1904x748, 269K)