I was thinking, bear with me, could it have been possible that WW2 was a setup and (((they))) funded the Nazis into power knowing they were going to do something that would later give them the excuse to call it the Holocaust?
It wouldn't be far fetched that elite Jews wouldn't mind loosing a few lower class Jews to consolidate power.
To the "Hitler was a great man" folks
Do they deny the Bush family moved money to the Nazis ? Do they deny other wall street connections ? Do they deny that Zionists like Warburg, Rockefeller secretly did deals with the Nazi's facilitating the aquisition of fuel, steel etc. for the war effort ? Do they deny that Standard Oil gave the Nazi's the patent to produce synthetic oil from coal ?
Both claim to hate the Zionist West, yet are supported by them to further zionist interests. Of course your run of the mill Al qaeda or Nazi believes the rhetoric, hell even top leaders probably do, but in the end Hitler gave a strong pretext for the establishment of Israel, and served as a defense mechanism for future Zionist crimes. (anti-semitism/hate speech)
>Do they deny the Bush family moved money to the Nazis ? Americans traded with Germans until 1942 when it was outlawed.
>Do they deny other wall street connections ? Same as above.
>Do they deny that Zionists like Warburg, Rockefeller secretly did deals Warburg didn't finance the NSDAP. Two Zionist bankers donated in the early years. Hitler made more from the sales of his book in his first month out of prison than his party received from Zionists.
Who issues the Balfour declaration? Which war was it issued in? Why was it issued? You've completely inverted the truth. I've noticed that Americans blame Hitler for themselves being cowards. Hitler warned Americans of exactly what would befall their nation and they did not listen.
>most European Jews would have have been killed. most european jews were killed.
well, over half and nearly two thirds of them.
Brody Allen
Nah, your numbers aren't backed up by the census numbers. Seems like about 200-300,000 died in the labor camps. You can't even point at a picture of an actual functional gas chamber, let alone work the numbers up. Not to mention the dozens of conflicting accounts and ridiculous claims made by survivors (rollercoaster into an oven, cage match vs bear & eagle tagteam, etc.)
that leaflet was filled with lies (the most obvious one being the claim that Hoss diary was forged) but also the lie that the red cross had access to the extermination centres.
please don't quote teh 1948 American World Almanac - the one that says its data is based on 1938 data because they had not updated it because of the war... and then in 1949 they show a five and half million drop in numbers...
please do not tell me you fell for that old lie as well
you know also that the numbers from the Bad Arolsen archives do not contain all those killed in the camps - the figures often quoted by deniers are actually for german citizens traced, bu the have only the records from a few camps, )nothing for Treblinka) and not even complete records for the ones they have some documents for
the Auschwitz records for instance only cover about two years of the Camp I - the small labour camp - and do not cover camp II or camp III (Birkenau) which had ten times the number of inmates, and of course they do not cover those who were never entered into the records at all because they were killed on arrival.
the Red cross also had very limited access to Auschwitz
There is no evidence that any delegates of the ICRC inspected the Auschwitz camps. On 29 September 1944, the ICRC delegate Maurice Rossel visited the commandant's office of Auschwitz main camp. He wrote a report about his trip. It is clear that Rossel did not manage to enter and inspect its prisoner's compound (let aside Birkenau, where the extermination sites were located). The prisoner's compound of the main camp consisted of 25 barracks, yet Rossel only saw "six to eight very large red brick barracks". Hence, he only saw it from the commandant's office. Furthermore, Rossel did not speak to Auschwitz prisoners. He only talked to what he thought was the camp commandant and had to trust his word
Rossel: "I arrived at that Kommandantur where I was received very correctly by the camp commander. [...] I asked him...if it would be possible that we would support the infirmary, that we would visit....He said: – No, these are internees, you have no right to see whatever. But if you would like to send help to the infirmary, or medications, you can do that.' [...]
[Lanzmann: How long did this last, your meeting?]
Rossel: Half an hour, 45 minutes.
[Lanzmann: And what did you see of the camp?]
Rossel: Nothing.
Grayson Miller
>Death camps are almost certainly a hoax though. why do you say that?
not only were the camps you seem to think were just ordinary place far from that, but the Nazis are quite explicit about the final solution and what it meant
he record of the orders to set up and run the camps, and the detailed transport records of the arrival of millions of people at them, who then disappear without trace - never seen again, never transferred, adn never let free - plus the detailed account of the killing process and the disposal of the bodies that is given by multiple witnesses, plus the very presence of the buildings and the crematoria for the purpose, makes your claim extremely odd
I've read your pasta and you've only proved that a million or so died.
Nathan Morris
Sup Forums claims that the six billion number is ridiculous and that yids deserved to be interned. YouTube censored this 50 year old speech by a Jew a few days ago. It had 400k+ views 96%+ likes. He was a childhood friend of Untermeyer/Morgenthau and served on the American delegation to the council of Jews in Amsterdam. Freedman explains in detail how Jews turned on Germany during WWI and the interwar years.
ok, so already you are happy to reject the number claimed here good
now tell me where the 3 milllion polish jews went?
the half million from hungary
the million plus that the Einsatzgruppen reports claim were killed in the eastern states?
that is 4,5 million.
since the actual historians after much research tracing all the numbers have all come to a total of about 5.5 million (very conservative 5.1, genreous adn I think too loose saying possibly a little over 6) that seems to be the historical figure.
Aaron Anderson
Hitler was a fraud. Since he succesfully took over NSDAP jewish IG farben became main funder of nazi party.
they send jews to Israel so they could avoid war. They let go Rotschild when they caught him(according to Hitler rich financial elite jews were the main problem in the world, turns out he was just saying it to get German support)
Ian Young
Polish jews are fucking everywhere, most of them in US and Israel, some of them in Sweden, France, south america etc...
half of Poland was captured by nazis but half(with most jews) by soviets. soviets allowed couple milions jews to run into asia, so they avoided war totally
300-700 000 died
Eli Young
sorry have to go and watch the man in the high castle with my girlfriend.
here is some light reading
-archive.is/jtMNP - Index of Published Evidence on Mass Extermination in -Auschwitz and Auschwitz-Birkenau
-archive.is/ffFL6 - Contemporary German Documents on Homicidal Gas Vans
-archive.is/CmcjD - Contemporary German Documents on Carbon Monoxide Gas and Bottles Employed for the Nazi Euthanasia
Connor Thompson
What's your final number? First it was 11,000,000. Then it was 6,000,000. Now it's 5,100,000? I want to believe but you need to settle on a number first. You've proved that maybe a million died during WWII and you haven't addressed what they've done to deserve internment.
You also haven't addressed the hypocritical whining about internment when Jews have millions of Palestinians in open air prison camps and do not allow converts to immigrate, let alone white goyim.
The Holocaust was the zionists killing two birds with one stone. They eliminate their not so subversive fellow kikes while also getting to play the victim card for a century.
Jose Rogers
>Hitler was a fraud. Since he succesfully took over NSDAP jewish IG farben became main funder of nazi party.
this
Germany was crippled economically, and in a few short years the Nazi's somehow turned it around.
They couldn't have done that without consulting and needing the "enemy" to help them.
Jaxson Williams
The first part isn't true. You're correct that Hitler relocated 80k Jews to Palestine, mostly on land that was sold to Jews by the Ottoman Empire for pennies before the collapse, and that this relocation had to stop once war broke out. A war that was declared on Germany by prominent Jews in 1933.
Levi Ortiz
you see to think that people having the power to finance wars give a shit about commoners
Logan Long
All German debt under the NSDAP including MEFO was less than the 1938 British and French deficits. Hitler addresses this. YouTube censors the speech when it hits ~200 views.
Henry Ford was an open supporter of Hitler. He apparently was also being funded through the Dutch Shell corporation and IG Farben.
Who authorized these funds to be transferred to him, we don't know, because the treasurers of the Nazi party were all killed during denazification.
Hitler had a Jewish cook, and a Jewish doctor (Dr. Morel), and a Jewish head of secret police (Heydrich). So he is probably not the e antisemite that he is made out to be.
>It wouldn't be far fetched that elite Jews wouldn't mind loosing a few lower class Jews to consolidate power.
Not convinced many Jews were killed. Many lies are admitted to have been told. Such as lampshades of human skin, soap bars, shrunken heads, the gas chambers at dahau, etc. Each of those lies is a testimony to someone that thinking that the Germans had not committed war crimes.
Kayden Ramirez
Pre-war debt. The economy was effectively/temporarily nationalized just as it was in the UK and USA during the war. War profits were seized. Price floors were set. Production was mandated.
you dont seem to remember the british royals who were one half of the balfour declaration working with the nazis do you
Owen Cooper
Hitler nationalized banking and insurance. He was the only sovereign to act against a Rothschild. Americans can't stand the fact that they were warned by Hitler 80 years before it happened.
Rich men do rich man things to keep themselves rich. They don't fight in any wars. Haven't since the days of horseback cavalry. They have nothing to lose. Bare that in mind. The enemy is not "JEWS" "MUZZIES" "NIGGERS" etc etc. The enemy is our own governments. Drop that redpill then you might see the truth.
Carson Turner
The Nazi's rose to power very quickly. This is interesting considering that the general populace of Germany had no interest in these extremists when they first appeared on the scene. Given more recent history, like the engineered elections in the US by the Bush family, it's better than possible that when the Nazi's came to power, they were helped into that position by whoever was counting the votes. In 14 years, and after war reparations crippled the economy, and the infrastructure severely compromised, Germany was starting to prosper again. All of a sudden, it seems the economy was being rejuventaed -- the country seemed to curry favor with the banking cartel that had less than 20 years previous had called in massive debts and reparations. Then the Olympics, glorious PR, the Germans had their "saviour" in the form of Adolf Hitler. We've seen similar stories emerge in different countries since then.
Again, a crippled economy turned itself around in a very short period of time.
You can't do that without the aid of the World bank. Can't.
Then came the invasion of Poland, and what led to WWII. These concentration camps were primarily work camps, Fritz Thyssen was the Zionist man on the scene, and he helped to move all the money they made through banks around the world. The terror campaign against the Jews was largely done to seize assets from those not going along with the plan of the Zionists, and to have them flee the terror right into Israel.
The Holocaust was greatly exaggerated to keep this process moving forward, to keep fear at the forefront, to limit people's abilities to speak freely.
What a joke. The Balfour declaration was made while Hitler was a low level enlisted man fighting in WWI. Perhaps we shouldn't have dropped a million tons of his women and children while the men were off fighting the Red Army. Perhaps we shouldn't have funded/fed/armed/trained the Red Army after it marched into Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Finland and Romania against the will of the people.
the six million number is important to jews because of a Kabbalah prophecy that essentially states the Jews will regain the promised land (Israel) but first they must pass through a fire/furnace in which a certain number will not pass through. Kabbalah is the absolute most autistic of religions, and huge significance is placed on numbers and numerology. So the number that will be consumed in the fire totals out to six million, and the fire itself ties back to denial and the Jews in Babylon who faced similar persecution, to the point that some think the main persecutor in Babylon and Hitler are the same manifestation. For a Jew who is aware of this prophecy the death or loss of six million in exchange for gaining the hold land is seen as a fantastic deal, even morose as the fire is seen as a form of judgement in which the good Jews pass through and survive and the bad Jews are consumed. This a trade they would happily make..
Connor Miller
>The Nazi's rose to power very quickly. Tens years, hundreds of deaths, tens of thousands of injuries, and hundreds of thousands of losts jobs later..
answer the question, why did the british royals who created israel work with the nazis? there are many photos of them greeting and heiling hitler and prince harry even wore a nazi armband once
Gabriel Bell
They tossed Edward out because he wasn't kosher. What are you even trying to say? Balfour was issued because American kikery promised they could get America into the war. Germany had all but won before this happened. Not one troop had stepped foot in Germany until this point.
The royals aren't allowed to so much as comment on foreign affairs. What a joke. Here's one of your fellow tribesmen explaing how Balfour came about. He explains how kikes in Germany turned on their hosts once Balfour was issued.
Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must "vanish" before the state of Israel can be formed. "You shall return minus 6 million."
There are a lot of sixes in judaism. It would be interesting to know why, in the bible, the number of the beast (Satan) is 6-6-6. Another thing that is interesting is that D-Day was launched on June 6th, @ 6:30am. That's 6-6-6. I think the date and time of the Allied invasion was also chosen to coincide with the number six and the six million claimed dead.
That's why Tom Segev, an Israeli historian, declared that the "6 million" is an attempt to transform the Holocaust story into state religion.
The Talmudists are obsessed with the number 6 or the "vav". The Holocaust Memorial in Washington, D.C. was designed using multiples of 6. Instead of explaining all of it here, I will refer you to a couple good articles on the subject:
Carson Nguyen
you know what im trying to say, ive said it very clearly, the same people who created israel are the same people that worked with the nazis
Owen James
"You will return six million fewer" is Kabbalistic, not Talmudic.
Brayden Rivera
now youre calling me a kike last question why did bush's grandfather bankroll the nazis and hitler?
Austin Young
The royal family doesn't run the UK. They declared war against Germany. You're an idiot.
They were Jews, they financed both sides of the war and did anything for a movement of profit, this fairytale that Hitler or the NSDAP had any connection to Zionists is laughable.
Leo Price
In a few years? This man being poked by a Rothschild, the man that will only become King because Edward was forced out for not being kosher. My point exactly.
Blake Turner
What does that prove? whats your point? these people have no morals or values, all they see is money to be made or lost, PROFIT. They saw some profit in Nazi Germany, hence they traded and bankrolled. Very elementary concept.
Henry Butler
Because they are corrupt. Like most in power these days. I love if i see the day that parliament is dissolved and the royals exiled. Will never happen though. They own everything q (-including the courts) so what do we do? We know whats happening but are powerless to stop it. If you have a plan please tell us. Hating us does not fix anything.
By the way Myron Fagan the man making the speech, was a Jew. He shills for open borders and claims racism was invented to divide the working class. He shits on the NSDAP using garbage about satanism and paganism.
Kevin Powell
It's still a decent speech though. It's interesting how YouTube keeps it up but bans Freedmans (also Jewish) speech in 1961.
So was Hitler a collaborator of the Zionists or not? The way the more reasonable and intelligent Sup Forumsacks interpret it, Hitler -at least initially - wanted the creation of a Jewish ethnostate, as a way to get rid of the Jews. So in a way, he was a Zionist for some time, just not a neocon Israel cocksucker.
Austin Sanchez
wtf. Is that real?
Easton Brooks
Hitler wanted the Jews out of Europe. He relocated 80k (wikipedia claims 60k) to Palestine. I wouldn't call him a Zionist because he didn't want to exterminate them wholesale.
I believe it, the Nazis are,kind of Isis style how grandpappy Bush was running skull and bones. All the Bush's especially were raped as,children and are no ultra mind control
Nathaniel Perry
I was aware of that. Yet these times I was watching some of the non-right-wing related conspiracy theories, and some of those videos were about Hitler belonging to secret societies like the Thule Society, or even the infamous Illuminati (lol), or Skull and Bones society.
This mostly due to some of the dubious financing he got in the beginning, such as from the Warburgs and Bush's granddad (member of Skull and Bones). Furthermore, some Sup Forumsacks are of the opinion (never found a valid source on this) that Hjalmar Schlacht, who mostly did the work of getting Germany out of debt, was an agent of the Rothschilds.
Christian Parker
Good, advanced level redpilled person on here. Hitler was a New Ager. Read about his connections to Blavatsky and Alice Bailey, and their connections to socialism. Hitler was an excuse to implement the United Nations and European Union, and of course Israel. The League of Nations, and the Concert of Europe in 1815 were both early attempts at Federalism. The United Nations is world federalism. Hitler knew very well about all this and in fact believed it in, but his role was to play the enemy of globalism, so that he could be eventually defeated and the destruction of Europe could be justified, and the future unification of the world under a global dictatorship.
Kayden Baker
The two thirds that were the least capable, had the least money and least connections, and were least able to flee when things got bad
Almost like someone purposely purged the bottom 2/3 of a population with a eugenic intent...really activates the almonds
Ayden Rivera
>Hitler knew very well about all this and in fact believed it in, but his role was to play the enemy of globalism, so that he could be eventually defeated and the destruction of Europe could be justified, and the future unification of the world under a global dictatorship.
I'm gonna need a source on this. Hitler's life in Vienna, where he got his views was carefully recorded by his best friend and roommate, later to be an apolitical painter, August Kubizek.
Ayden Peterson
they are trying to destroy german culture and life same as always
whoa got some reading material to find where Kbizek talks about Hitler's formative years?
Mason Richardson
He has written a book about it; the Young Hitler I knew. I'm divided on Hitler. On one hand, I grew up in Germany, though as a non-white, I still learned the mainstream view on history at school. On another hand, I was since my childhood very interested in conspiracy theories (TV mostly fed me the meme stuff, like Bush did 9/11, pyramids were built by aliens, Freemasons created America, Illuminati rule the world). Coincidence brought me to Sup Forums and Sup Forums taught me a lot (even things that I don't want to know). Now the answer I seek is who the fuck was Hitler. I am confused as hell.
Ayden Roberts
>belonging to secret societies like the Thule Society Their members had influence on Himmler and others, how is it relevant though?
Logan Gomez
>some Sup Forumsacks are of the opinion (never found a valid source on this) that Hjalmar Schlacht Yes he was the one that put Germans back to work in 1933-36. He wasn't a party member. I guess this is the most interesting angle but Hitler didn't start moving against international kikery until 1937/8.
Jonathan Sullivan
You've brought up some interesting stuff that deserves looking into. Especially their first economic minister.
Anthony Ortiz
If Hitler was controlled opposition they deserve to inherit the earth. I don't buy it. Not even remotely.
John Rogers
Well, the Thule society is thought to have been somehow connected to Skull and Bones. It's just something I've heard of these days, have not done any detailed research on it. As for Skull and Bones, I know very little. What I DO know is that they have some pagan rituals implemented into them. European Pagans, like the Hindus, believed in reincarnation. Unlike the Hindus, they believed that one reincarnate only into a descendant (direct or indirect) of his. This descendant could recollect the memories of the previous life only if he collected the skull and thigh bone of said ancestor. Furthermore, it was believed that drinking from the Skull of an enemy made you gain his knowledge.
The Skull and Bones symbol is a skull with two thigh bones (now that I think of it, the SS had the same). Not only that, but skull and bones' best gig (according to them) is stealing the skill and thigh bones of a famous Apache warrior.
Thule is some term in Nordic mythology I do not recall right now. But you see the dots.
Kayden Clark
It's a powerful redpill for sure. Just give it time and look into it little by little. The truth will set you free.
John Phillips
>Hjalmar Schlacht He wasn't head of the central bank the entire time. Walther Funk replaced him apparently because Schlacht opposed funding the armed forces, or something like that.
Austin Thompson
sauce on that woman? thats a haunting picture
Landon Garcia
I see you have never heard of Albert Pike.
Chase Jenkins
As of now, there is no tangible evidence that Hitler was controlled opposition. His life is well recorded, and afaik, there was no time for him to have somehow been claimed under control of the Rothschilds or what not. The Rothschilds have financed every war since Napoleon. At best they made Hitler an unwitting pawn who they knew was rebelling.
But that is from what I have gathered as knowledge. Do we need to look deeper or are we going down a rabbit hole that leads to nothing?
Wyatt Adams
Yes, but they got rid of him in '38, which many in here pinpoint as the year the Rothschilds stopped funding him. Or am I wrong and talking out of my arse and Hitler actually fired Hjalmar earlier? Tbh, we need actual proof Hjalmar was connected to the Rothschilds or whatever family/organisation of this kind
Bentley Cruz
thule is the mystical land in nordic mythology. i believe it was a massive island possibly between denmark and england but i dont remember. it was the home of the thuleans. might be tied to atlantis somehow but im not sure
Adrian Green
>the SS had the same Himmler was pagan. He was raised Catholic, but I believe he rejected Catholicism at some point. David Irving wrote an interesting book about him, I've yet to get a chance to go through it.
Dylan Richardson
The point is, what game were/are Skull and Bones playing? Pagan right wing extremism is something that the elite would not want, especially considering how it is easier to control people by saying that Christians are spiritual jews and whatnot. I still cannot stop thinking that these secret societies have their own agendas and the answers are far more complex than 'it was the jews'.
Wyatt Long
gtfo pajeet. stay in your shithole and leave our wome alone
Adrian Jones
Read about millennialism.
Henry James
Thule is pure bunk. Skull and Bones is just a routine secret society. They mostly get drunk and make business deals plus help other members get jobs. Basically the Elks but with LARPing. These groups used to be ubiquitous in Europe and the Americas, but only the ones with rich and upper-middle class people survived.
