Fascists what do you do if your fascist governments wants to ban something that personally affects you...

Fascists what do you do if your fascist governments wants to ban something that personally affects you. Whether it's music, porn, anime, Sup Forums, video games. Whatever it is. What if they ban something really important to you?

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everything minus music is degenerate. Even within music some genres are degenerate.

My children and I are part of society and I don't want their developing brains exposed to degeneracy

Nothing is more imprortant to me than becoming and Nietzschian Ubermensch, and no government can ban self-improvement, other than doing it softly like America's deity-like Capitalist economy

Family, dignity, respect. These are important to me and no government can ban that.

Learn more about what fascism actually is.
Also restricting vices would be a good thing, did you see last night's morbid obesity thread?

Sup Forums is the only one in that list that should be b&

Why is god father so great

There is something you don't think is degenerate that other people will. No one is perfect.

That's not the godfather. It's Leonard Cohen. Common mistake

I know what fascism is. Someone post that image.

>everything minus music is degenerate.

Yeah you see not everyone thinks like that. Even your fascist allies don't think that.

True, but everyone should strive for perfection
even if it is unobtainable, because at the end you have not lost anything but have gain so much more than what you started with.

I come from the Julian aisle of thought

>thats not what we actually want
>also thats actuall what we want
make up your mind dumbass

>True, but everyone should strive for perfection
What is perfect to you is not perfect to another person. How can you tell him he is wrong.

see, this is the problem with communism to you all, everything is relative. Under all the qualia of the human mind there is only one imperative.

and that is to live. Fascism is the ideology of life with purpose and that purpose is improvement. Thats why I think that Communism is an inferior ideology, because it only cares about the material.

You said a whole lot of nothing there and didn't answer the argument.

Moral relativism is babby's first ideology. Grow up you pinko slut

This is why I'm a "White nationalist" and not a fascist.

The only thing I want banned from my country is shitskins.

>How can I tell him he is wrong

if he has a certain view of perfection that does not conflict with mine, then there is no problem at all, but if perfection to him is debased then we have a problem. there is nothing more to say, and aggression follows.

>*and communist/leftist
This

So if 50% of the fascists have a different view than the other half. What happens?

It's better then the commies who would just send you to a death camp or starve you to death for no apparent reason.

Fascism and white nationalism are not absolutely synonyms

>music
I listen to metal, but I can give it up in the name of fascism
>porn
good
>anime
good
>vidya
don't care
>Sup Forums
there would be no need for Sup Forums if we lived under a fascist regime

In the case of arts, this includes vidyas as well, everything that serves the interest of the people and the interest of the nation would be allowed.

Then it is but to the will of the strongest.

but I can say the same of Stalism and trotskyism and Maoism

why is there a picture of Michael Corleone replacing Leonard Cohen?

Only porn from that list is bad, the rest just require self control. Hitler Youth will teach that.

So now those 50% won the fight and now those people difference in view. 50% and 50%. It keeps going? Do you see the problem.

Yeah I know. They are fascist ideologies not communist.

That's Leonard Cohen

>Do you see the problem
Not really. A doctor doesn't purge 50% of an infection, or settle for excising 50% of a tumor

And what if the 50% remaining have yet another disagreement that splits them in half ? Is your system basically going fuck people's shit up anytime do not agree on something ? When will it finally be possible to actually discuss things without requiring an armed mob to back your opinion up ?

So really Fascism is just killing your comrades until the only people that exist all agree with each other exactly on every view. No difference in opinion allowed.

This might be controversial amongst some fascist circles, but Fascism is a very Proletariat/soldier's/warrior ideology, unlike communism which is absolutely fucking civilian.

>Yeah I know.
Communism is incredibly anti-human, and thats why it will never work, with out repression.

Beat me to it
What is a metastasis ?

Which is obviously more utopian than communism and will never happen because people are different.

The Soviet Union banned rock and roll and men being able to have long hair.

>Communism is incredibly anti-human, and thats why it will never work, with out repression.
Source?

Like communism isn't get fucked commie.

Your ideology's ultimate goal is a world of no government. Ours isn't so daft.

Soviet Union wasn't socialist.

reality

Communism is a democracy.

You might want to rethink your stance regarding communism and army, historically speaking (hint: North Korea)

No it has no state not no government.

nice argument

semantics

There is a pretty big difference. Take a political science 101 course or read the wikipedia page.

I'll boil it down, we care about the indiviual so it strengthen the collective, you only care for the collective.

You guys are moving the thread. This thread isn't about communism but how fascism can never exist because fascists will always be killing other fascists in disagreement.

But that is also true of Communism. What is the Great Purge.

The logical conclusion of your ideology is despotism at the hands of niggers though.

Africans are going to be 50% of the human population by the end of the century, due to their explosive birth rate.

What guarantee do you have that they won't behave in an ethnocentric manner, just because the territory they inhabit waves red flags around? I think you'll just turn Earth into a giant Zimbabwe.

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Communism is a democracy. So it wouldn't happen.

You keep confusing idealism with practicality.

How so?

>the majority can never agree to a common set of morals that is to be enforced by the state

Hasn't this always been the case though? Your argument is basically "fascism can't exist unless 100% of humans under the fascist state have the same ethics and behavior" is pretty stupid. No nation has ever been a hivemind, but that didn't stop many from lasting for hundreds of years.

communism is absolute anarchy.
democracy's prerequisite is government and voluntarism, which to the road to communism is the destruction of both of those concepts

You claim that "muh true communism" can exist in a state where all humans appreciate the minority's rights, but that's never really been the case. The majority will use violence until the point that they are placated and comfortable, to the detriment of the minority if need be. Case in point: The Bantus (led by leftist parties) persecuting the Boers in South Africa. Diversity + proximity = conflict.

But the soviet sentence for "No apparent reason" was usually only a tenner, actual reasons would give you a quarter. However, actual reasons included having served previously, so "no apparent reason" could add up to 35.

Liberal democracy isn't forcing anyone to act or think a certain way. When the state forces someone to act or think a certain way you will always have disagreement which means you always have violence. There will never be a moment of peace because one side will always be fighting with the each other.

Anarchism has government though.

>relativism
Things are degenerate not because we do not like them but because the hold back, corrupt and weaken the user, reducing their ability to better serve themselves, their purpose and the ones they care for.

Democracies have voted to purge minorities countless times, especially in the 3rd world.

Adding "liberal" as a suffix to your democracy doesn't mean shit. Also, "liberal" is a connotation most often associated with capitalism, so I'm assuming that you're a brainlet that doesn't even have basic /leftypol/ knowledge.

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Yeah but what if the other 50% don't agree with what you think is holding them back, corrupting, or weakening them.

Our current state of being, (that state being Civilization) is a refutation of Anarchism.

I wasn't talking about socialism because it's barely existing. I was talking about the liberal democracies that have existed for hundreds of of years.

Communism is abhorrently idiotic it refutes itself empirical

I know, that OP will just get massively back-bunnered and become even more communistic after this thread.

>started by socialists
>run by socialists
>everyone inside called it socialist
>everyone outside called it socialist
Either everyone who was alive throughout its entire history was wrong or you're a lying whore.

Liberal democracies exist on paper, kid.

Plenty of "liberal democracies" in Africa have voted to disenfrachise and kill whites and minor black tribes. The Myanmar government voted to expel and genocide Muslims just last year, etc.

In the US, and the West in general, nonwhite ethnocentric groups, and their Marxist servants such as yourself, are just changing the laws to persecute whites and literally prevent whites from speaking on their own behalf as we are being economically and demographically marginalized.

There has been no actual serious arguments against communism. Please point them out if you think I didn't refute them.

Then they're objectively wrong. If someone doesn't think porn is degenerate then they should get the fuck out of our society

Mate, history has proven communism wrong.

like a badly constructed bridge it collapses onto itself.

You can't even say China is communist because its still has a state

You avoided the argument and are putting your own beliefs into it. What would you do if the government did something that you seriously objected to but 50% of the fascists agreed with it.

Become the change you want to be.

If a junky can't hold down a job because he cannot stay clean for than a week, he cannot feed himself, nor others, nor achieve anything greater in life. I do not care if he does not agree, it is not about the subjective, it is an objective truth that his degeneracy impedes him. The more drugs he takes, the lesser his capacity to achieve and the greater likelihood that his body and mind will fail him.

If you disagree, take up a meth habit. If it is purely a matter of subjectivity than shooting up every other day will have no impact on you achieving your goals. If you are unwilling to do so, your actions confirm what your tongue cannot utter; that we are right.

Economic calculation problem.

The state can't accurately judge market values.

If the state is populated by /yourguys/ then a nonzero state of empathy can be assumed on the part of the government that would cause us to trust in its wisdom to ban this or that thing.

Ban music. Play more concerts. Ban porn. Make men and women love each other again. Ban 4 chan. Make people talk in the streets. Ban video games. Encourage people to level up in real life. None of this shit is important to me. What you replaced is whats important to me. And if only fascists could bring back our humanity then hail fucking hitler.

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>Using a dictionary to define a political ideology.

Anarchism has a government. Every single anarchist thinker has written this and every single anarchist society in history has had a government

The state is inherently hierarchal but many forms of government are not.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism#First_International_and_the_Paris_Commune

>It's called Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea. The peoples calls themselves a democracy. That means its a democracy.

What I think OP doesn't understand is that fascism isn't just a natsoc, its a state of mind. Natsoc is just a governmental manifestation of that mindset.

Well sorry i'm not using yourspeak.

I never really thought about but if it's a true democracy and 60% of the people wanted to slaughter the other 40%. It would be democratic to do it. Right?

Yes.

If fascism bans something and if we are properly defining a fascist state for what it is ie not an Orwellian communist authoritarian state; then the fascist state is banning it for the health of its people’s. Examples of this would be porn, nigger music, drug abuse, open homosexuality, open prostitution, pedophilia and child abuse etc. If a fascist state bans something I like but what I like negatively affects my volk ( prostitution for example) then i see me losing something I like as a worthy sacrifice for the greater health of my people

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Again putting your own beliefs into it. I'm talking about comrade fascists that you respect who disagree with you on something.

Decentralized planning

Well, fucking, said.

It's not my speak. If you want to debate something. Learn about it first.

If the government does what is right and I disagree then I would hope I would be shown the truth
If the government does what is wrong, and I disagree with it then I will speak my mind to show others the truth.

"le 50%" does not matter, we are not a groupthink, our beliefs are not first dependent on the opinion of others in a collective such as the socialists and communists are.

We are here because we have sought objective truth through evidence and argument and have roughly arrived at similar conclusions.

>What I think OP doesn't understand is that fascism isn't just a natsoc, its a state of mind. Natsoc is just a governmental manifestation of that mindset.

Post that image "what is fascism" that I've never seen anyone object to.

>then i see me losing something I like as a worthy sacrifice for the greater health of my people
cuck

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Learn about it first.
follow your own advice.

Why are you people replying to the memeflagging vapid relativist troll

Iron-pill the fuck out of this user