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>“We are choosing languages, not countries,” said Dawkins. “The pdfs may, of course, be downloaded by anybody in any country, but we imagine most Urdu downloads will be in Pakistan, most Indonesian downloads in Indonesia and Malaysia, and most Farsi downloads in Iran.”
The book was absolutely terrible and failed to make a case against the existence of God.
>The book was absolutely terrible and failed to make a case against the existence of God.
Made the case perfectly well. All the typical fallacies used to defend the supernatural were dealt with. Read it again.
If you thought his book was actually good and his arguments sound then you are stupid.
i prefer Beyond Good and Evil.
I remember reading this book in public places when I was 16 so people would think I was cool. God damn I was a faggot
One thing I don't understand about gaytheist is why they evangelize for atheism. What do they benefit from it?
they believe being a neckbeard atheist makes them superior than a christian man with his proud white family
>If you thought his book was actually good and his arguments sound then you are stupid.
They're not his arguments, its just basic reasoning.
>logic: religious people cause wars
>if religion was outlawed and banned we have no wars and live in utopia
>forgets about china/the USSR
Dawkins and his new atheist ilk are just people who have had a bad experience with religion as children and now are getting back at God.
The problem with people who promote Dawkins and his book is that they are usually too stupid to even understand why they are wrong.
Herein lies the problem with Science(TM) worship. It gives somewhat intelligent people with their specialized knowledge in a certain discipline (whether it be biology or whatever science) the inflated ego to take on centuries of philosophical debate between very intelligent thinkers.
>>if religion was outlawed and banned we have no wars and live in utopia
RD, nor any other so called "new atheist" has ever claimed such a thing.
They simply point out that some violence is explicitly motivated/sanctioned by religion.
dawkins, part of the atheism plus movement and they were BTFO. now they're trying to come back with the skeptics(TM)
little did they know they were being pushed forward by jews
most are insecure in their intelligence and become atheists specifically to emulate people they perceive as being very smart, and then broadcast it to make sure everyone understands that they're actually very smart too.
>some violence is explicitly motivated/sanctioned by religion.
and completely ignore the violence sanctioned in the absence of religion, aka atheism
>Dawkins and his new atheist ilk are just people who have had a bad experience with religion as children and now are getting back at God.
Are you ever going to prove the existence of this magical being, or are you just going to keep talking shite....?
the bible of the new atheist cult. why should i waste my time reading a book full of propaganda when your entire religion can fit on a bumper sticker?
atheists believe they are morally and intellectually superior to religious people but they can't even connect open borders with the rise of criminality
>and completely ignore the violence sanctioned in the absence of religion, aka atheism
Yes. Atheists are capable of being violent.
Atheism is just a lack of belief in god(s).
I like how Jordan Peterson talks about religion. Its not so black and white, the importance it has had on western civilization and the importance of the stories and archetypes is worth acknowledging at least.
>atheists believe they are morally and intellectually superior to religious people but they can't even connect open borders with the rise of criminality
But I'm an atheist and I can see the connection..
So can Douglas Murray, Sam Harris, Hitch, etc etc
Whats your point...?
>Atheism is just a lack of belief in god(s).
wrong. they replace god(s) with science. Remember science is for smart and open minded people. the same scientists who believe in group think and demand no one should be allowed to question the holocaust
>Are you ever going to prove the existence of this magical being
Are you ever going to prove your religious view that everything magically appeared from nothing?
>Atheism is just a lack of belief in god(s).
The first tenant of the new atheist cult- Make all sorts of claims, but for the sake of argument deny all of them.
You completely failed to refute one word of it.
>most are insecure in their intelligence and become atheists specifically to emulate people they perceive as being very smart
Well, we're clearly not as smart as you..
You seem to know how the universe was created, by whom, *and* that humans are the center of it...
How is it possible to be so smug and presumptuous in your beliefs while deriding others of the same is beyond me.
>the same scientists who believe in group think and demand no one should be allowed to question the holocaust
Go away loser.
>gaytheist
It's the moron that doesn't understand how prefixes work and calls himself gay.
>The first tenant of the new atheist cult- Make all sorts of claims, but for the sake of argument deny all of them.
Disbelieving is fairies is not a positive claim, is the lack of one
If this book is so good then why are their still so many religious people? Checkmate atheists
Hard mode: your counter argument can't revolve around "cuz people are stupid"
fuck you're dumb
>sound arguments against a negative
>using negatives against a negative
It sucked actually, like most of Dawkins retarded
moral relativist bullshit.
>It sucked actually, like most of Dawkins retarded
>moral relativist bullshit.
Are you just upset that people have debunked your imaginary friend?
Fedorafag: Atheism makes no claims!
Christian: you just made a claim
Fedorafag: No I didn't!
Christian: Yes you did. Claiming that you make no claims is a claim
Fedorafag: Fuck you! Christians are stupid. I'm not playing anymore!
>most are insecure in their intelligence
True. Atheism is the religion that the stupid adopt because they think it makes them intelligent.
well you're are right about most atheist being evangelized of there belief i can't deny it as a realist that love to look up and study history, as for the benefit i can't say because nobody think the same for example let say that your a christian and you believes it because of this benefit but you're friend believes it because of that benefit you see where i'm going at
love's*
>Fedorafag: Atheism makes no claims!
>Christian: you just made a claim
>Fedorafag: No I didn't!
>Christian: Yes you did. Claiming that you make no claims is a claim
>Fedorafag: Fuck you! Christians are stupid. I'm not playing anymore!
Stop talking to yourself.
You're already an atheist you dumb fucking hick... You don't believe in Zeus right?
>Are you just upset that people have debunked your imaginary friend?
Hey, there's another claim the atheist fundie made which he will deny in his next post. It's crazy how they all make claim after claim while parroting "I make no claims!"
>You're already an atheist
another claim.
>I have an invisible unicorn in my pocket
>I don't accept that claim, demonstrate first before I accept
>YOU JUST MADE A CLAIM YOU DOGMATIC A-UNICORNIST!!!!
>Disbelieving is fairies is not a positive claim, is the lack of one
A claim, and a stupid one. There is a difference between disbelief and unbelief. Unbelief is simply not having any belief. To disbelieve in something is to hold the positive belief that the opposite is true.
>>I have an invisible unicorn in my pocket
I actually do have an invisible unicorn in my pocket, btw.
>A claim, and a stupid one. There is a difference between disbelief and unbelief. Unbelief is simply not having any belief. To disbelieve in something is to hold the positive belief that the opposite is true.
Do you believe in Zeus, yes or no?
>I actually do have an invisible unicorn in my pocket, btw.
And I suppose you think its a "religion" to doubt this assertion.
And you keep wondering why religious people are generally considered stupid...
hey look at that, you made it through a post without making a claim that you would have to immediately disavow. You're smarter than I at first credited you with being.
Perfectly put. It's just how to be an intellectual without actually committing yourself to a long academic career.
>hey look at that, you made it through a post without making a claim that you would have to immediately disavow. You're smarter than I at first credited you with being.
Do you have an answer, you mentally ill cretin?
DEATH TO THE INFIDEL
just stop both of you
But why would I waste my time with you?
>And you keep wondering why religious people are generally considered stupid...
It is actually curious, given that the religious are responsible for most of the scientific, philosophical breakthroughs in history. There is obviously some sort of cognitive dissonance in the people claiming religion is a sign of stupidity.
I have never heard atheist with a compelling argument. They are all spineless and nu males that i have met. They are the epitome of weak and i dont even think they know it.
>Do you have an answer, you mentally ill cretin?
Not until you apologize for all the mean things you said about my invisible unicorn.
>Perfectly put. It's just how to be an intellectual without actually committing yourself to a long academic career.
One if the things I've noticed about religious people nowadays is that they spend most of their time taunting atheists/atheism, without ever openly ddeclaring which god they believe in or why...
Its almost as if they know its an intellectually embarrassing thing to admit to, so they avoid it at all costs.
The church could use another reformation. I still believe, just not in the institution as it is today.
>One if the things I've noticed about religious people nowadays is that they spend most of their time taunting atheists/atheism
You think that may be noticeable to you because you're a fedorafag that, like most fedorafags, thinks it's your mission in life to proselytize for your atheist fundamentalism?
>The church could use another reformation.
True. The church has been whoring for taxbreaks for a long time.
>Not until you apologize for all the mean things you said about my invisible unicorn.
I'll answer for you..
No, you dont believe in Zeus.
You're an atheist when it comes to that god, and 99% of other gods.
You instead choose to believe in yahweh. equally stupid, equally unsupported by evidence.
Atheists just go one god further than you.
You're almost there trooper, you can do it!
Why do you contrast it as religious and atheist? Atheist like you are just religious as any Baptist or Sunni Muslim.
You say that based on what?
But really how can the atheists make a compelling argument, when they have as much if not probably less evidence of what happens in the after life as theists do.
This is exactly why I wouldn't spend time arguing with you. Putting Zeus in the same category as the transcendent God of the Bible is ridiculous.
Its part of the underpinning of human morality, such as it is.
>Atheist like you are just religious as any Baptist or Sunni Muslim.
I suppose you think its a "religion" to doubt the existence of apollo?
Most people would just call it being fucking rational, you manbaby.
No, you wont see granny in the sky after you die, grow the fuck up.
>Putting Zeus in the same category as the transcendent God of the Bible is ridiculous.
Ahhh ok....
Actually no. It's all the same supernatural bullshit.
> I suppose you think its a "religion" to doubt the existence of apollo?
I don't? How did you infer that? Do you see what I mean. You're clearly very dumb.
Well that is horrendous and will cause nothing but trouble. At best, you have it get skipped over and at worst you spread secularist/modernism and their trouble to the middle east. All it does is culturally destroy, not build anything, so it will obviously be challenged.
When you're young you're likely uneducated on things so take what you can get. It's no worries.
Christians don't want to argue, argument requires reason and you have already admitted that your belief is based on faith
The truth is always the truth. No matter what form it may take!
where is this going?
Lol Hercules might as well be Jesus and Zeus might as well be God because they both follow the same father-son relationship and they both came down to Earth from Heaven as a baby.
Well there is little to no truth in that book so I don't know what you're getting at.
>the butthurt fedoracuck itt
they dont want your holy book deciding laws that govern their lives.
or do christians abstain on voting or sharing opinions on things such as gay marriage etc.
Because we don't make extraneous assumptions.
>I don't? How did you infer that?
Good. You just debunked your own shitty argument.
Have you ever heard a theist with a compelling argument?
Since it can neither be proven or disproven. Any rational atheist has to become a skeptic.
Wolfshiem I think what is even worse and bizzare is, what is the message being spread there?
Atheism strips life of all value, morality, worth and pretty much entails nihilism. It says you came from a cosmic accident and you're on a spinning ball and every year you inch closer to the Sun until you eventually be incinerated.
It says there is no good no bad actions.
I wonder what benefit they get from promoting this view? You think as atheist they would rather be hedonists or something else.
>Dawkins and his new atheist ilk are just people who have had a bad experience with religion as children and now are getting back at God.
why would you try to "get back at" something you dont think exists? its like people trying to "get back at" santa claus
I dont want your views imposed on me either by forcing me to recognize gay marriages either
Why dony you tell everyone which god you believe in..
Zeus?
Apollo?
Thor?
Yahweh?
Ra?
you're just being coy
the reality is for most atheists like him, dawkins was molested by an anglican priest, its about getting back at god
>based on faith
I dont adhere to any religion but i consider myself a deist, what more evidence do you have than i. ?
Why? Theyre enjoying it.
>It masturbated my prejudices perfectly well
ftfy
How is gay marriage an atheist viewpoint? You sound like a dumbass
Its going to be great without god
The taxbreaks began with the emperor Constantine, so, yeah, a really long time.
because religion is a net negative for society, better to spread atheism now and maybe a few generations down the line religion will be a relic of the past
you dipshit gay marriage is based on moral values like egalitarianism
one i dont share, and so by enacting laws based on it, you are forcing your views onto me
Not really, but is it far fetched to say the pattern / clockwork of the universe isnt just by random chance but intelligent design?
In that case you have no more evidence than i do that their is or isnt a god, i however see the pattern that is life and matter, and believe like many others do its by design.
No miracles simply a framework, when you look at matter do you see random or something created.
Like evolution, ppl say proof of no god, i say far from, its the mechanism in which god created life and us. What evidence do ppl have to the contrary.
what evidence do you have that there is any such thing as an afterlife?
religion is very board. does that mean dogmatic atheism like your kind should be eradicated too?
that would just show that you are not well read in the field of philosophy and science rather than showing that there are no good arguments for theism
because atheists are left wing liberal sjws socialists commies degenerates devilcucks
>religion is very board. does that mean dogmatic atheism like your kind should be eradicated too?
What the hell is dogmatic atheism anyway?
Since when is it dogmatic to disbelieve in magical beings?
>random chance
nobody is claiming the universe came about by random chance, thats the strawman every theist likes to argue, a false dichotomy of intelligent design or "random chance"
It's not falsifiable, you've just made an extraneous assumption.