Why is Sup Forums against universal healthcare?

Why is Sup Forums against universal healthcare?

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Because doctors shouldn't be asked to work for free.

A whole two years of lifespan that we can use to spend even more on their aging souls

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Pretty sure most services are run for profit and they seem to do well by me.

finding even one aspect of their healthcare system that is 'for profit' undermines the fact that universal healthcare is best.

they're not. They get paid
our healthcare is shit.

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Another BS statistic.

Blacks die way younger thus dragging down our life expectancy.

Out of our tax dollar? So if your neighbour decides to get fat and shoot heroin, is it fair that you pay for that?

I'm sure it's just due to the healthcare model and not to the fact that americans are fat as fuck, eat overprocessed nutritionally atrocious shit all the time, and overwork themselves to death for their (((bosses))) while propping up their failed lifestyle with endless consumer credit thus never leaving poverty and all the stress and mental well being issues associated with knowing that you're literally one paycheck away from getting thrown in the street

I mean it's just common sense it's GOT to be the funding model of the hospitals and literally nothing else whatsoever

valid point
who said we arent?

>Germany has the world's oldest national social health insurance system

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>only 5 years away from ethnonationalist Japan despite being an outrageously fat nation
I'll take it, especially since I'm fit and don't waste my income on insurance. Stay mad, cuck.

Because you scum don't deserve a penny of my money.

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You can get treatment at any emergency room for free and cannot be turned away
fuck yourself

You realize an unusually large amount of those people are negroid variety, right?

Because it sucks. You literally wait hours in a queue to get basic care.

USA has population of all those combined.

>Only 5 years behind Japan

Yeah that's not enough for me to turn commie

>burgermutts blaming their short lifespan on healthcare

this, too diverse for something as high class and progressive for universal heathcare.

yes. He has to pay for me if I do the same thing.

yeah if you go for a cold, if it's urgent you get treatment right away. If you have some weak shit you go to a private clinic

They're still counted in the stats, are they not?

And besides, that's just not true.
marketwatch.com/story/most-americans-are-one-medical-emergency-away-from-financial-disaster-2017-01-12

61% of americans do not have enough money to cover a ONE THOUSAND DOLLAR emergency.
Niggers only make up 13% of your population.

Stop trying to hide your problems by blaming them all on niggers.

wow 2 years to stew in my own geriatric filth while popping pills like skittles

and what does that do to the price of healthcare?
what does that have to do with anything?

The only reason why it's shit is because the Jews require us to take vaccines unlike Japan

AMERIKA SUKS CUZ NIGGERS

america sucks because suburb and rural retards keep voting for the GOP

>Blacks die way younger thus dragging down our life expectancy.
Good point. I wonder if it has anything to do with lack of access to healthcare. Nah, probably not. They just die young.

Because like all government mandated things it is wildly inefficient. Instead of having the healthcare wait on you you have to wait for it.

Because MILITARY

Yes, niggers here in Alabama always vote for the GOP

who fucking cares, the US can run their country how ever they wish

So can you not see how this persuades you by lessening the consequences to take less care of yourself?

Japan has a curious susceptibility to the common cold and frequently get killed by it.
meanwhile fat american burgers are so powerful that they EAT the cold.
checkmate, japan

Here's a solution. Only Taxpayers can get universal healthcare. If you get government assistance such as welfare or food stamps, you're unable to receive universal healthcare.

the fuck are you talking about? The fact that King Nigger forced every single one of that 13% onto tax payer healthcare is why our system is so absolutely fucked.

And I was talking about your obesity claims, you dumb nigger. Niggers skew literally every single statistic of the United States, to the point where any reputable study will separate them from whites. And that doesn't even get into the spic problem.

Honestly that we are 2 years behind the oh so glorious European overlords with these cancers embedded in us either shows how great we are, or how pathetic Europe has become. And I don't really think we have become great again quite yet, so that really only leaves one option.

user i'm all for universal healthcare but that image is an incredibly weak argument

>Why is Sup Forums against universal healthcare?
Many reasons. You need referrals to see a specialist, and end up in *long* waiting lines. When something is free, people use it more liberally, and then when the cost is spread around, it actually makes it more expensive for everyone. Also, universal healthcare sucks for doctors, because they are essentially not able to work for themselves, but must work for the government. Like any kind of insurance, it insulates people from the consequences of there bad choices, and therefore they make more bad choices than they otherwise would have.

as someone that works in healthcare, most people won't do the bare minimum to prevent disease in the first place. If America wasn't full of fatasses rotting from the inside-out with diabetes I'd be out of a job and I still wouldn't consider universal healthcare. My sister works optometry and most of her patients have to be double digit IQ retards that set themselves up for debilitating eye problems because they won't follow the fucking directions printed on the box for contacts. No you shouldn't wear a pair of biweekly contacts for 6 months, no you shouldn't sleep in them, no you shouldn't re-use contact solution, no you can't have another pair of trial lenses for free so that you will wear them until the next visit when you demand another trial pair.
People are awfully interested in getting other people to pay for their healthcare when they themselves won't drop 5 bucks on a bottle of fucking opti-free.

Do you think cops and teachers work for free?

But if we get rid of the for profit model, how will the Jews get all their money to control the goyim?
Funny how most Doctors are socialists
Bad goy, national socialism and national communism are evil system. Defend Capitalism™ goyim

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australia has it too and our life expectancy is about 82 or 83 for women and 81 for men.

Cops work for a pittance, they're some of the most underpaid people in respect to the danger of our work. Only really poor people don't pay for school, everyone else has school fees. Besides, primary school (elementary school) teachers are really dumb.

Not only do we fight for less taxes for billionaires, we also want to provide for profit health system as much profit as possible.

Oh, that "free" ER care? Those that pay for their own insurance still unable to make the connection between ER for someone else and the reason their own premiums keep going up. It's not free, they just charge everyone else a bit more.

Go murica

We already pay for shit lile that with skyrocketing insurance premiums. At least Universal would cutoff that fat drugged out lump for not being productive. Same for people that have just lived far too long and make Big Pharma richer.

Trouble is, we don't have the infrastructure to handle Universal (especially after India's investment Emergency Clinics pull out) and nobody's pushing for infrastructural improvements.

My point is, imagine if police was a for profit industry. You cant call the cops unless you pay your $500 monthly fee and even then, thats only a access to basic services and response time is sometime that day and you have to have premium membership to get immediate response time.

nothing because that is the hospital, not the fucking insurance companies. hospitals budget FOR poorfags and the E.R.

you and your sister weren't smart enough to become MDs

intelligence is also correlated with empathy

I would be all for free health care for legitimate disabilities and emergencies. The problem is I know and fear pill heads would abuse the system more than they already do. I have nothing against helping those who need it, raising the qaulity of life for my neighbors in my state. I just cant get over assisting degenerates in the process.

Nothing. Just like the OP.

Negroids live shorted lives on average, explaining the shorter US lifespan. Japanese live longer lives. It's all genetics.

no, it causes the price of insurance to go up

>what is a public worker
O gee billy I wonder how they get paid?!

I should aslo correct myself, not all pillheads are degenerate trash, I know addiction can be brutal, some are good people who got hooked on the shit while injured or fell in with the wrong people during a low point in their life, but I cant accept socializing their downfall. It not only increases the burden on society but it hurts them as well whether they want to admit it or not.

prolly cause most anons have decent healthcare, fuck the rest

If you were in insurance, you wouldn't be complaining.

a majority of people aren't in insurance. In fact, most people have to buy health insurance.

>burdening people with taxes so they can pay for life extension for other people so they can be a tax burden for longer
Fuck off already. Humans were not designed to live past 50 anyway.

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I’m in my last year of medical school and I won’t work for slave wages. Medical care isn’t very expensive if it’s paid directly by the patient. Blame insurance and pharmacy companies for jacking up the price. Also, lobbyists have a lot to do with outrageous healthcare costs.

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>Medical care isn’t very expensive if it’s paid directly by the patient
and if you don't have insurance you die, or are saddled with debt the rest of your life.
>Blame insurance and pharmacy companies for jacking up the price
they have to jack up prices because people of all the people without insurance still receiving treatment.

That's what a survey says. They could come up with the money but it wouldn't be easy

>be responsible goy
>pay 8 bucks a month for fire insurance on house
>crying kids on tv homeless becuase parents didn't buy fire insurance
>media outrage "how can this happen in 1st world gountry?"
>government takes over and forces everyone to buy fire insurance
>because idiots and high risk people can't be charged more the cost is spread around and now I pay 15 bucks a month
>hurricane insurance get's rolled in
>"but i live in kansas"
>doesn't matter
>now paying 25 bucks a month
>tornado, EQ, flood etc... all rolled in even though I didn't want them
>paying 50 bucks a month now
>house finally catches on fire
>"well at least I got insurance"
>"system is overburdened and I have to wait 8 months to get a payout so im living in my car till then

Ya great

Meanwhile, niggers can come up with $3k in a weeks for new rims, cell phone and ‘nigger-blaster 9000’ stereo for there 1985 caprice classic.

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Same shit, different day
GET A NEW LINE FAGGOT

WE KEEP THE WORLD SAFE AND EXPECT OUR PEOPLE TO NOT BE DEGENERATES AND TAKE CARE OF THEM SELVES. Socialism only works cause we create a bubble for the whites in the world to build good societies and take care of themselves, free from the hoards of filth...AND as that changes, thats why everythings falling apart.

we are fat, most of our "traditional foods" were made after the 19th century and are caustic to our health, and we aren't that active on the whole.

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we dont need universal healthcare, we need price controls

if the drugs were more affordable our insurances would be cheaper

regulate the prices

79% For profit and tons of niggers and goblins, pretty good if u asked me

>6% difference from the highest value
>3.7% difference from the median
>3.4% difference from the mean
>1-2 off of the mode
>range size is 6.1% of the mean
it's a nearly negligible difference

townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2010/03/02/alice-in-health-care-n1018512
azquotes.com/quote/1405246
> Virtually everything that the government does costs more than when the same thing is done in private industry - whether it is building housing, running prisons, collecting garbage, or innumerable other things. Why in the world would we imagine that health care would be the exception?

So what if it costs more, the entire point of it is that help society by having healthier people?

56% is so funny now, right?

No. I don't want to help niggers and spics get healthier. Fucking faggot. This is why I will never support universal health care.

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Yeah, niggers are retarded. What's your point? Fuck 'em. None of these charts and graphs and statistics take race into account. 50% of black babies are aborted. Funny how you never hear about that in the debates.

what did you not understand about the picture
FOR PROFITS
this is what america is based on FOR PROFITS

Except it would also help whites as well?

Are you arguing to bite the hand that feeds it?

So you're telling me I have been forced to pay for health insurance and healthcare all these years and I didn't have to?

Don't I feel like an idiot

so now you speak for all consumers?
and why do you think people would be healthier?

DO you really think the average person in American cares about anyone else other than themselves.
Americans are spiteful, greedy, and self centered .

whites don't care about whites

Well for one people could afford treatment that doesn't cost an arm and a leg

Not to mention we have plenty of data showing that it will improve health

Cost is our biggest barrier

tiny nations. and the uk is something to aim for? lol

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I'm not. The Medicare levy is like 2% of my paycheck, and that ensures free doctor's visits and emergency treatment. It's one of the few taxes I'm okay with paying. I also earn enough to afford private health insurance so I can skip the queue in the public system if I ever need surgery or something. Not a perfect system, but it works for me.

Universal healthcare doesn't cut shit, they treat people until they're fucking dead

Japan is infinitely more healthy than us as far as their lifestyles go. They literally eat steamed vegetables and fish, we eat McDonald's. The fact there is only a 5 year difference basically proves our healthcare is better

Show me where? The vast majority of whites can afford healthcare in the US. It's always niggers and spics that cannot.

Insurance companies are the largest employers though.

Every country is using medicines and techniques developed in the US. If the US healthcare industry stopped being for profit the rest of those shitty countries would stop seeing any medical advancements.

I'd be okay with universal healthcare on a state-by-state basis but then only if my state was 90+% white

Are fucking serious? While more whites can afford it, but those are not the whites in the middle class

A single medical operation can bankrupt the average american, white included

There are no free state-provided health services, but private health insurance is compulsory for all persons residing in Switzerland

>cost an arm and a leg
ask doctors of small and medium practices what they think of obamacare and how wonderful for costs it has been
costs are artificially high due to regulatory burden

Nothing stopping you running R&D in a for profit manner. Don't muddy research with point of contact treatment.

You do realize we can do both

Your correct, but the point is the price for drug is insane, hospitals charge 400 for fucking ibuprofen that i could get 10 dollars else where

Its these insane costs that are biggest problem

Reminder only retards think that th universal health care meme works, it's faulty and creates an overload where almost no one can be seen.

Blah, blah, blah..

Because all it does is create a system of one minute mic doctors that want patients in and out as fast as possible that don't give a shit about your health and only want to sell you the pharmaceutical jew that masks symptoms instead of curing the problem?

Because, I've literally been to the doctors twice in 25 years and I'm not paying for you weak entitled fucks.

Like that one Chink, that made an opiate empire here in the us.

If it was faulty their people would not have longer lifespan than places that do not

Universal healthcare is a net benefit for a nations people

As for the overload, it does not create the overload you think it does, it is the result of people who can now afford treatment, to get treatment. Those that get in wait lists is because they are not in a life threatening situation so they moved back