Face it Sup Forums, Conservatives are wrong

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California proves conservatives wrong. This is from a Berkeley professor, not some politician who only looks to be elected.

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>This is from a Berkeley professor

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Checkmate, Trumpfags. Socialism WORKS.

>using California as an example
>one of the lowest qualities of life
>public education one of the worst, to the point of them dropping HIGHER MATH in colleges
>PUBLIC HEALTH WHEN PEOPLE SHIT IN THE STREETS
This guy can fuck off, the best California was at was when it was red. Great infrastructure, enviable schools, beautiful cities. They ruined all of it, fuck these liberal asswipes.

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get a load of this dude

he doesnt fucking understand that the value of a dollar is not constant

>shit in streets
Just some hobos, don't conflate it to everyone or the situation of california at all

>one of the lowest qualities of life
Show me proof. We have highest paying jobs, more growth, revenue, twice the economy of any state, and we live fucking amazing in our god tier environment

>public education one of the worst, to the point of them dropping HIGHER MATH in colleges
We have all the top public universities in the nation outside of the Ivy League. Only reason k-12 is bad is because we have a lot of undocumented children who are having some trouble adapting because the work is not in English. Once we get a better ESL course to get them fluent young and more courses in Spanish for those too old to learn, the numbers will pan out to be better.

Sorry we are the only state that actually cares about people and their education.

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there is a happy medium

and this is only on taxes. conservatives are right on morality. leftists/liberals/Democrats are wrong

How are conservatives right on morality? They hate gays, blacks, Jews, and undocumented workers just because they are different.

Stop basing "morals" on backwards religions and nostalgia for the 50s, it's not morality. It's just conservatives smelling their farts of a time before civil rights.

This is a joke right?

Dollar equals what the government makes it

>brags about how rich the state is
>still have many hobos shitting in the streets

Also earning 300,000 per year doesn't cut it in San Francisco. So much for earning all that money.

Just saying "doesn't cut it" doesn't mean anything. Only issue is housing which is expensive everywhere after the bubble burst in 2008. It's just more expensive here because all the tech jobs are here and the market is highly saturated driving up prices

>Having hobos in a metropolitan area equates to your state being shit

Have you ever been to ANY major city. It's a natural problem of inner city life.

Why do leftist dumbshits like you always paint everything black or white? What if I'm gay conservative who likes to likes to suck black dick?

>They hate gays, blacks, Jews, and undocumented workers just because they are different.

Nice strawman.

It was the conservatives who ended slavery and segregation.

Homosexuals keep demanding the right to a religious institution that doesn't want them.

A majority of Jews in the US are left wing and openly promote communism.

Illegal immigrants use taxpayer money despite not paying anything into he system. That and they generally commit a lot of crimes atop of having immigrated illegally. They are the major perpetrators of social security and insurance fraud in the US.

Thank you for admitting my state is Rich, richer and more technologically advanced than yours with a more capable tech industry while the rest of the country sucks our cocks for more new innovations and some spilloff jobs that we create in other states by proxy of our success.

Sorry sweetie. California has descended into a dark pit of horror in the last 20 years as a direct result of hyper liberal policies. I graduated from Mira Costa high school in the 90s and UC Riverside in 2003 and have lived here my whole life. The decay is palpable and there is no one to blame but the horrid democrats and their constant pandering to illegal immigrants voting blocks at the expense of the normal tax payers -even the Mexican legal citizens get totally fucked. If it wasn't for me owning my father's house in MB Id be out of here so fast. Even earning low six figures and having no debt or housing costs Im still fucking pinched every month. I drive a used Camry. Fucking liberals destroy EVERYTHING they touch. They must be purged with fire. Bring back 80s California.

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>gays
disgusting
>blacks
criminals
>jews
disgusting criminals
>illegal aliens
criminals

why do you support so much crime?

>conservatives are wrong!
>California

Nice bait, but all commiefornians are the reason why my home-state is a shithole, sage

I'm sorry you vote against your interest with people who think your sexuality is a diesase to be electrocuted out of you and want to give all your money to corporations to hold all the money.

But then again, Uncle Tom's come in all groups, so I hope you get what you want as a straw man brownie point for conservatives to parade around as an except to the rule.

Is that why all your tech companies are moving to Texas?

Those other major cities have that problem, because you've exported to those other locations. Portland was great, until the Californian parasites came here.

We can get our technology from Korea and Japan, we don't need you. And having high income low profits is not rich.

Nice 30 year old strawman using your own personal and warped view of your experience as conjecture for what reality is about this amazing states success.

Undocumented workers are hard working, diversify our population, allow for a steady stream of people to pay into pensions with our aging and larger/longer living elderly population, and lower labor costs while also doing jobs nobody else wants to do. We californians work at creating all the tech and industry and the undocumented work the unskilled jobs. And as payback they get benefits and better opportunities for their kids. Everyone wins, how stupid can you be?

You just proved my point bigot.

Prove it. We are bigger, more developed, and with the best most educated industries in the WORLD. Accept reality.

California dominates every state in terms of GDP. seeing how everyone is fleeing that sinking ship, i'd say the taxes are having an effect. what these libtards are doing is simply unsustainable even with all that money.

You got told by a more technically advanced nation, learn your position.

Japan > California

Lol opening a office is not moving. Psst, its so they can import cali libs and change the voteing norm.

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Everytime

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>highest paying jobs
Yea no shit, bc you have the highest cost of living. My wife turned down a 20k raise to move to Cali bc we would live like poor ppl out there while on less money we live like kings in the Midwest

Go Los Alamitos! Fight the big bad Sacramento (San Fag and el Gay) government.

California sucks ass unless youre such rich kike

>take the state with one of the largest ranges of biodiversity, beautiful weather and nature, a diverse and thriving economy that would be the worlds 5th largest as its own country, and make it so shitty to live in that people flee by the millions

California is proof that conservatives are correct.

>430 billion dollars in debt
>economic success

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>they hate blacks Hispanics gays
Only the far right, while literally every liberal supports killing babies. Sorry m8 but the left can't win a moral argument until they get their shit sorted

>Sup Forums creates insane amount of value in the past 15 years
>shitskins are attracted to value like flys are to shit
>shitskins come here but get severely triggered by stuff white people talk about when there is no censorship imposed on them
>for a shitskin this must be the first time they get confronted by unfiltered white opinions
>the cognitive dissonance they experience is SEVERE
>sometimes they can’t sleep for days(I’ve spoken to several pol-shitskins)
>they get addicted to this place because all these things they hear make sense and explain many things in their lives
>they do not admit all of these things but become angry at whites and think that it’s just a game to make them feel bad
>they think the world only revolves around them and whites here do the things they do as a way to trigger them
>so they start playing the game that they assume is being played here

>start posting things explicitly designed to trigger whites
>white purity spiral (causes division in the whites)
>white women hate (causes whites to hate their own kind)
>nigger dick posting (triggered white people’s sexual insecurities)
>attack representatives of white interest politicians&e-celebs

Illegal immigrants cost California 30b per year or 17% of our state budget.

nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/02/21/costs-illegal-immigration-california/

But don't let facts stand in the way of your retarded virtue signalling. I bet you benefit from the largesse into which I am forced to pay.

So, think you're a wise guy huh?

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What is funny is, if California did become their own country, they would collapse so fucking quickly, they wouldn't know what hit them. And what would hit them is a China-USA embargo of California, because a California break away would give Taiwan the same idea, and China wouldn't like that.

>appeal to universal egalitarianism is inherently moral

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Name one or some, and not just a branch or some shitty manufacturer like Toyota, actual tech. We still have all the important ones and all the startups are still in silicon valley.

Japan who has been stagnanting and hasn't had a new business crated in over 20 years and will kill itself on pensions because it won't take in immigrants? Yeah try it's Japanese literally only function because we create all the new software and tech and they just copy it and make it more cost effective.

You keep saying sinking ship and the sky is falling but we still have all the innovation, advancement, and tech companies. A few tax issues don't mean anything when we have actual competent social benefits, cleaner air, and the upper class paying their part. Just needs a slight tweak and some more regulation and it'll be fine. People were saying the same thing in 2008 and 2013 but it was all fluff from outsiders.

Yeah sure, stagnating zaibatsu descendant companies are Superior to fast paced tech startups. Sure. Let Cali stop innovating for 5 years and Japan would die from not benefits from our new tech to feed their industry. They literally eat our shit to survive.

Oh look more Jew hating, that totally proved me wrong!

>Highest paying jobs don't matter
>Best companies and newer and more innovating ones don't matter
Sorry your wife isn't good enough to succeed in the California dream. It's for smart people who are make it.

Prove its shitty without a conflated source from Fox news or something. I dare you.

>Debt in the US
>Like it matters

>diversity is inherently positive

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if california is your example of why conservatives are wrong you're a fucking tool or commy either way fuck off faggot

Short term, in the long run it'll solve our pension problems and it already keeps labor costs low.

Yeah, gay bashing and religious supremacy is totally egalitarian.

It's a net positive. Prove it isn't. Even the make of Google and apple were immigrants and the son of one. Their diverse ideas let them approach tech in new ways and innovate

Sure proved me wrong with insults.

>California is the poverty capital of the country.
>successful

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Diversity + proximity = conflict.

The best nations on Earth to live are ethnically homogenous.

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It's not a dream if only the elites can live it. Do you even hear yourself or are you just putting forth terrible arguments bc you don't have any good ones and are too proud to admit you were BTFO?

Also, learn some reading comprehension, you brainlet. I said that universal egalitarianism is bad. It's bad because not all people are beneficial to society, and giving shitskins control over the economy and government leads to objectively worse conditions. See Detroit and South Africa for examples.

>solves our pension problem.

You clearly don't understand how this works. Illegals do not contribute to the tax base. They do not pay taxes. They are a drain on the finances of the state. You are woefully ignorant of basic economics. I suspect you are under 25 and not economically productive yourself. Or just a communist type. At any rate get the fuck out of my state.

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Yeah nothing like hep A outbreaks cause bums shitting on the streets. So glad I left that shit hole and relocated to the mid west to raise cattle.

Goddamn jidf. I gotta admit, with how these morons are biting your bait is pretty sad. I hope you're proud of what you've done to cuckchan. Nothing but slide threads and degeneracy, just like your California state, where all the movies and media come from owned by you know who to control dumbass goyim. Your gun laws may have been passed there. You may have stripped the population down to the point that they cannot be combat effective. But the rest of us are gearing up. Thousands of rounds of ammo, plate carriers and plates. We are training. We are rising. We will slaughter you, and your robot Zionist army. We still have purpose. You may have stripped 51% of this countries will and strength, but you won't subvert us all. This isn't Russia. We won't go quietly. The fire will rise and envelope you. California is a failed state. Can't manage resources or money. The idiots may debate you but don't feel you have won the war kike.

For all you idiots actually arguing with this kike- watch the video and see what California does to people. This Jew isn't worth your time.

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just move to Texas. It's much better. Disregard Iowa.....

traditions (conservatism) exist, as such, because they are continuously selected, because they work

meanwhile, degeneracy attends destruction throughout history. today is no exception. ww3 soon

we don't hate. we judge wrongdoing when we see it. and don't confuse conservatism with stormfaggotry

>Stop basing "morals" on backwards religions and nostalgia for the 50s,

wrong. religion is a vehicle for morality, not the source. the majority of the world to this day is conservative, across multiple different religions and cultures. you're wrong and you're in the minority.

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If California is so great then why are all of them moving into red states?

They contribute in payroll tax and by having kids. Kids add more taxpayers because successful people have less kids to freed into new payer.

I am 28 and work at one of the major tech companies doing support. And why assume I'm a communist. Slander and lies gets you nowhere. Japan will die when it's lack of innovation and pension system kills it. Learn immigration. It works wonders.

Name 1 metropolitan area with out hobos.

Racist arguments don't hold weight buddy. Just cause you hate different people doesn't make them less capable

Why America, the eternal melting pot and biggest source of immigration ( millions upon millions at Ellis island) the most successful and productive?

Prove it

>sorry we are the only state that actually cares about people and their education.
WashingtonAnon here, I can't even begin to count how many of you Californian bugs have migrated north EXPLICITLY because public health and the schools were so poor. You're the laughing stock of the west coast and as soon as the tech bubble finally bursts everyone around the world will see you for the incompetent charlatans you really are.

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Just wait. The favelas grow upward.

God I hate living in California and having to deal with all these pretentious pricks.

>2013
>40 random-ass probably unproductive countries
Nice age cohort shit. It'll shift when more people are educated.

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politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/

latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

fee.org/articles/california-has-the-highest-poverty-rate-in-america-why/

thetrumpet.com/16826-california-is-americas-poverty-capital-heres-the-real-reason-why

Pls respond to me. I'm now genuinely interested in if you are too dumb to know your response to me was a bad argument or if you are just arguing with/pol/tards just to argue

Goddamn Chinese.

one thing this retard forgot was the mass amount of illegal spics in california that are being paid less than minimum wage and thus increasing aggregate supply./

It's a jidf slide thread. They ignore actual truthful arguments and just try to manipulate the "useful idiots" they can into actually believing that commiefornia isn't a hell hole that deserves the nuclear cleansing it will get.

>the majority of the world to this day is conservative
Yeah but atheism has only been legal for like 60 years worldwide, give people time.

Also
>Degeneracy
Nice meme word religious idiot. What's next, heresy and blasphem?

>religion is a vehicle for morality, not the source. the majority of the world to this day is conservative
Yeah when you and your little gang of religious elites who profit from this scam set the "morals." Also it's hard to undo over 2000 years of religious totalitarianism on people's thoughts. Give it time, more people are learning to forget God. Sweden is proof enough of that. But just because you're numerous doesn't mean you're right

Prove it.

>payroll tax

>illegal immigrants

You're just digging yourself deeper. Illegal immigrants do not pay taxes. They work under the table. They use the ER like a clinic. Their kids occupy seats in the classrooms that could be used for economically productive citizens. They do not pay taxes. Your lack of understanding of the matter and pretension offends me. If you has any honor you would commit seppuku

I figured. He ignored my other post when I called out his morality argument as well. Liberals having morals, lol

>They hate gays, blacks, Jews, and undocumented workers

They are called illegal aliens.

dude. just shut up already. It's embarassing.

>Undocumented workers

Illegal Aliens.

>Berkeley professor
College educated whites went Trump... something the media and shills try to bury.

"Muh suburban retards" is a shill myth. Urban areas went Hillary ONLY due to their black and hispanic populations. The college educated vote Hillary won was ONLY from blacks and hispanics. See pic related.

Hillary also only got 37% of the overall white vote.

37%

We are basically at a point now where it's white people vs everyone else (immigrants, blacks, radicals etc.)

Just look at the demographics vs counties won.

It's time for any of that 37% out there to wake the fuck up as to what is really going on.

Time is short.

DEPORT ***ALL*** ILLEGALS

HAVE WHITE FAMILIES

BUILD THE DAMN WALL

It can easily be reversed if we do those 3 things.

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It's obviously a ploy, California is a failed state. Plain and simple. It will not sustain another 20 years.

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Hi, Reddit!

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>Yeah but atheism has only been legal for like 60 years worldwide, give people time.

there's no time, ww3 soon

atheism is the ideology of the assertion of a negative. it's retarded. lrn2metaphor

>Nice meme word religious idiot.

not an argument. and I'm not religious.

>set the "morals."

nope, they derive from natural law. grow up kid.

> Sweden is proof enough of that.

hahahaha, so the solution is to let in terrorists to destroy the country, meanwhile destroying it from within by degeneracy and native fertility rates below replacement level

atheists confirmed self-defeating morons.

Your party is now a disgrace that you have to shit on the another party to make yours sound better, pathetic

I for one believe the eil white man should take responsibility for his sins, and send all nigg- I mean African Americans back to Africa free of charge!

Gee, you sure know how to make excuses.

calbizjournal.com/tag/businesses-leaving-california-for-texas/

LOL

“The move is being made for business reasons, such as lower taxes and the business friendly environment,” Noble told the Dallas Business Journal

go back to /leftypol/ you gay nigger

Sage

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I just realized im debating JIDF. My mistake.

Sage shlomo

>It was a point recently raised by California Assembly Republican Leader Chad Mayer at a legislative forum in Sacramento.
Totally not a biased opinion by opposition leaders
>Proves that California dealt with the 2008 crisis like nothing
Thanks for proving me right. It's mostly just a little bureaucracy issue and the fact we have a large population and some low level undocumented workers to pad those numbers.

Just calling me stupid doesn't make you right when I already retorted the points and proved me right.

What? I'm American, Californian to be exact and proud of it!

Their kids are the most valuable part as they will provide new payers into the pension system to make up for declining birthrates. And yes, employees will take a cut out of undocumented workers to dot their I'd and cross their Ts for taxes. I take it you're never worked with undocumented workers before. But it would make sense given you are more than less likely racist and adverse to interacting and working with them to know any better.

Partisan trite


Why do you guys insist I'm isreali?


Prove its a failure. Even with a little beauracratic red tape mucking one or two things our tech Monopoly will overcome 90% of this with incentives for investment and innovation by experience and superior results from startups.

I don't use Reddit since college honestly

Yeah sure Alex Jones, see ya at the front line.

Never been

I'm not Jewish or from isreal

REEEEEEEE I FUCKING HATE YOU

CALIFORNIA PRODUCING THE WEALTH IT DOES HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR CURRENT GOV'T, WE HAVE THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT COAST IN THE COUNTRY OF COURSE WE MAKE A LOT OF MONEY BUT ITS ALL FOR NOTHING IF MOONBEAM BROWN KEEPS FLUSHING IT DOWN THE TOILET FOR HIS SHIT SOCIAL PROJECTS AND BULLSHIT HIGH SPEED RAIL

DEMOSHITS TAKING CREDIT FOR ALL THE REVENUE CALIFORNIA MAKES IS LIKE THE MAYOR OF PORTLAND TAKING CREDIT FOR IT RAINING EVERYDAY

FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES IF YOU DEMOCRAPS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE MONEY CA MAKES

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Your response was
>lol California is for the 1%
Pls explain how that's a good argument for your state?

>prove it.
>gotcha now alt-righter nazi

cnbc.com/2018/03/19/californians-fed-up-with-housing-costs-and-taxes-are-fleeing-state.html
>Lower-cost states such as Arizona, Texas and Nevada are popular destinations for relocating Californians.

You're clearly in total ignorance of what is going in California but you shit up the entire thread with smug remarks trying to garner (You)s.
I live where practically everyone is leaving state (Illinois) and not one person I've talked to has said they were moving to California or even considering it. It's always Texas, Arizona, Colorado, Washington, or neighboring states. No one wants to move to your "utopia" because it's a total mess that is about to turn into another Illinois.

props for having the courage to stay and debate. most lefties run away pretty quick.

my advice is lurk moar

a lot of us were once leftists and even atheists too

let me guess. you're 19 years old, first year in university...

second year maybe?

prove me wrong

>THITH ITH A BERKELEY PROFETHOR!

I heard your post in the most obnoxious faggot lisp imaginable.

Need we remind you Berekely is a hivemind of social justice jewish faggotry, just like you, OP.

KYS

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California’s net outmigration has been ongoing for two-decades-plus. Yet the state’s population continues to grow: By this count, up 108,301 in 2016 — or 0.3 percent — to 38.8 million.

How? Primarily through foreign immigration

nice meme

vvdailypress.com/news/20180203/packing-up-and-moving-out-people-are-leaving-california-in-droves-including-some-high-desert-residents

Billy Joel’s classic tune “Movin’ Out” could be an appropriate theme song for the many individuals in the High Desert and California who have packed up and relocated to places like Oregon, Michigan, Arizona, Texas and Idaho.

waaaah let me suck off the feds more
waaaaaah

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Hank Hill is my favorite anime

Also you never responded to me calling out your straw man morality argument. Care to respond?

cnbc.com/2017/07/11/gov-greg-abbott-why-texas-is-the-top-technology-state-in-us.html

Tech giants Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Google, Oracle and Microsoft have all expanded in the Lone Star State, a move that has led the state to be No. 1 in the nation in tech exports and all exports.

preach

OPs video is old and irrelevant

I like how you cherry picked something that was “biased” without actually addressing why it was wrong and then ignored all his other sources about how California is a poverty stricken shithole. You’re a fucking idiot.

Is this Kike retarded?

If california is so great, why are all these Califags mass migrating to Texas?

Texas is one of the best functioning states with a growing stable economy.

California is net losing hundreds of companies everywhere and under performs while being infested with homeless.

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>Just calling me stupid doesn't make you right when I already retorted the points and proved me right
>I don't use Reddit since college honestly
>won't capitalized Israel or Israeli
Really proving the quality of Californian education with your grammar there José.

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>They hate gays, blacks, Jews, and undocumented workers just because they are different.

No, they just recognize that gays, blacks, and Jews are different and therefore cannot be treated or expected to act as if they were not different. And that fucking criminals who infiltrated the country illegally have to go back.