How do you reconcile abortion and the fifth commandment?

How do you reconcile abortion and the fifth commandment?

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you say fetus arent live so it isent murder.

i dont know if this post is pol tier. you will have to aport somthing to it, or i will have to report it.

but the fetus is alive

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defin life then i we will discuss if a fetus fet to that defenition.

1) those commandments are religiotard bullshit, nothing to reconcile with.
2) fuck your slide thread, salvia officinalis was applied.

How do you reconcile Sup Forums with 1,2,3,4,5 and 10? Keked you goddam motherfucking christcuck.

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You say human live starts only with the "ensouling" of the anima intellectiva, therefore early abortion is permissible.
That's how Christians did it in the middle ages, following St. Thomas Aquinas and Aristotle.

Why does your religion of choice get to dictate the laws? What about people who don't share your beliefs? Separation of church and state, bro. Don't like something? You don't have to partake in it.

You won't be going to hell just because you didn't get a law repealed, and all the people who partake in "sinful" activity will be the ones going to hell, so why do you care about them?

could you go out of here we are tryn to have a disscussion here

By realizing that morality and god are a creation of men. And if man created those things it means man is god.

And i say abortion is rad! Especially when you realize most of them are minorities!!!! Yaaay!

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>abortion
If you aren't calling it _foetal_ abortion, you are definitely part of the problem.

bumped

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THIS IS NOW A PRO LIFE VS PRO CHOICE TREAD.

we have to start defining what is life in order to determin if a fetus is life

Most children that are aborted have parents that don't want to raise them, will be born into poverty, or both. Most of the time its a fate worse than death.

Well, what do you think? Don't living things grow? A fetus grows, it's human right? It has human DNA, distinct from the mother and father.

What makes a human life so vauable? 99.99% of people never contribute anything meaningful to the world. We just work a 9-5 job. This is the reason the elites, rightfully so, know we are expendable. Sup Forums thinks every life matters and it doesn't.

From what I am seeing here, most of Sup Forums doesn't care about human life.

You sound like an excellent argument in favor of abortion.

you can't. assuming this is past the day of cellblob

You can abort anyone at anytime. Just ask every government.

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sory i try to write how i think but looks like my english isent good inaf. do you know spanish? i could explain it to you in spanish.

I know Romanian, maybe if you type slowly I'll understand lol

>You don't have to partake in it.

How can I no longer have my tax money going towards helping women to kill their own children?

If it didn't go towards that, it would be going towards the welfare given to them to raise the kid for 18 years. Most of these people are single moms who don't have jack shit.

So which is cheaper, a one-time abortion, or your taxes paying for some future criminal for almost 2 decades?

You don't.
Even if that were true (it isn't), there is still Genesis 38,9-10:
"Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his [dead] brother’s wife he spilled the semen on the ground, lest he should give offspring to his brother. 10 And what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord"
Semen is not a human person obviously, but because Onan wanted to avoid children (that are the main purpose of sexual act), his act was counted as sinful.
For he wanted to have pleasure without the consequence. As such, it was sinful for the same reason masturbation is.
Abortion is just that, but you add murder to it.

Meant for

Being a human, means to have a soul.

Cool nonsequitor that has nothing to do with the fact I just defeated your whole argument.

>Implying Jesus didn't fulfill the Covenant with his death on the Cross
>Implying Christians still have to do anything but the Son's teachings on the Mound.
I'd return that question to the pro-abortion Jews, if I were you.

Okay there, buds. Your argument wasn't exactly valid to begin with. Stop acting like you care about unwanted kids who will grow up to become degenerates anyways, because you don't.

>must save the lives of people who will turn out to be the kind of people i actively hate on a daily basis

And non sequitur is two words. Please stay in the prairies, you illiterate, plaid-jacket-wearing inbred.

>Your argument wasn't exactly valid to begin with.

Your argument is that my beliefs shouldn't have a say in dictating the law, and that I just don't have to partake.

I'm pointing out to you that I literally fund abortions unconscentually with my tax money. Meaning I DO in fact get a say since my tax money is funding it and that I cannot choose not to partake.

Please don't respond by throwing out more irrelevant points until you at least acknowledge that you're wrong here.

But you are the minority in this country now. People who share(d) your beliefs were the majority at one time, and they had their way in that era. Now the majority thinks that things should be the way they are now. See how that works? That's called democracy; majority rule.

Laws can't be tailored to suit each and every individual. If you don't like the way the majority voted, you're more than free to go to a country where things are currently in your favour.

I'm aware I'm the minority here. I'm pointing out to you that participation is not a choice, and that due to my funding I do get a say in it (even when it inevitably loses)

Thanks for acknowledging it now because it's important you're corrected on your "you get no say just don't participate ;);):)" bullshit

Wrong you have to determine what god sees as life.

Child sacrifice is a sacred thing you bigot.

What I originally meant was that people who don't agree with abortions aren't being forced to get them. I don't have kids, and it pisses me off that some of my taxes go to schools because how the fuck does that benefit me? But I gotta pay them, or else ol' Trudeau with his huge French schnoz will transform my mailbox into a bottomless receptacle of CRA letters.

I get where you're coming from, but it ain't gonna change anytime soon.

Checked

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>I don't have kids, and it pisses me off that some of my taxes go to schools because how the fuck does that benefit me? But I gotta pay them

Kek now imagine you have snarky condescending dick heads telling you that you get no say in it, but have to keep funding it, and then insulting you over a typo after you prove their point wrong

You fucking faggot

you dont, because religious dogma is for children. there's a reason the most religious parts of the US also most closely resemble 3rd world countries.

Would it make you feel better if I told you that I'm a doctor who performs abortions on a regular basis but deliberately botches a few of them a month for my own shits & giggles?

I mean it's a very feasible scenario; that's exactly the kind of thing a doctor who frequents Sup Forums would do.

AI gods when? We nee more post-humanism/transhumanism thought and activism Now. Urban shitholes are simply the stepping stone to the future benevolent singularity. Socialism will finally work then, surely. How much is your rent btw?

>urban shitholes

you mean the parts of the county that make up 2/3 of GDP and basically subsidize their parasitic, rural counterparts? how's mommy's gated community going for you?

>How much is your rent btw?

I dont rent, i own, because i'm not a pathetic effeminate unemployable trumpcuck like you.

Serious question. Do you really believe all of that? Are you young or old. I live in a place that people will still wave their hand at each other at a stop sign. The story I suppose of people being nomadic vs. city dwellers is an old one. In modern times its a slighty different story, but there are some similarities. Clean your streets of Hep C and shit when I visit your paradise plz.

of course i do, and the fact that you think cities are "hurr durr full of Hep C", you only underscore what i said about living at mommy's house. cities are big places kiddo. even smaller cities have shitty neighborhoods. that's just reality. but the other reality is they are the engines of our economy. stay delusional and more importantly, stay in school.

Ehh, dropped out of HS and college. I have problems with authority maybe. Grew up half on a farm, half in a minority community nicknamed 'Hollywood', so you just know it was a great environ. Never said cities were worthless or w/o great, smart people. I said they're evil as a concept. At least hive-like megacities.

Not be a religitard listening to a fairy tale book. That's how I reconcile it's ok for niggers and shitlibs to scramble and vacuum.

People who get abortions would be shit parents and raise inferior people so abortion is good

Explain to me the Book of Jonah, or Job. The fairy tale meme fails when you look into their meanings. Same with much of ancient Greek myths, ect. They're stories with meaning. Its why they've lasted. Don't shortchange yourself because a few ' religious' faggots are dumb.

>hahahaha I OWN my home
>falling for the anchor meme

*inhales*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Really though, I hope you're buying low and selling high, user. Otherwise, you'd be better off just getting a lease. At least then you can just pick up and leave on fairly short notice without worrying about a loss in net worth.

Glad you're so fucking old you were able to scrap up enough cash and credit to get a house nearly 10 years ago, or even longer. Or you're just a retard who bought high.

I lived in SF for seven years, it's absolutely an urban shithole. Get blocked in by street protests constantly so you're stuck on that street surrounded by needles, hep C, angry hobos pestering you for change, and soon to be BLM leftcuck specialists angry enough to punch someone for being a suspected Trump supporter or maybe manspreading on BART.

I can tell you about Church St. Market Street, Golden Gate park, Castro, even the Freakway, Oakland, Alameda and shit you gentrified hipsters never even dared to see. Little things too like Zeitgeist club where hipsters get their ribs broken and Berkleyite lesbo guerrilla cafes where straight men get their coffee spit in if they even want to look at hairy armpits at 8am for a soy laden drink. Yes a veritable paradise of cold smelly wind through the feces covered streets even if you're not near a man--excuse me personhole and faggots angry with themselves and their ugly world for reasons they can't even explain but are self evident to the rest of us.

I own a house in a 'parasitic rural counterpart' now where my income far outwieighs my cost of living and I'm not getting subsidized by the rest of the country through SALT deduction while forcing the passing shitty healthcare laws that fuck it up more for everyone but welfare queens and kangz. Lovely weather, friendly people, and I can drive or walk pretty much anywhere I want with nice coastal views.

Pro tip if your living expenses are four times more than anywhere in the country your income is worth four times less there.

You may be part of the 1% of elite leftists that are desperately trying to convince everyone they're the 'party of the people' by flirting with communism and illegal slave labor but the middle class is figuring it out finally. I hope enough do before they get another community disorganizer in chief to sell us out to China the rest of the way.

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>He lives in the gated community bubble


>Mocks others for "mommies gated community"

That's some impressive dissonance on display even by the standards of the usual angry lefties we get around here, wow.