You burgers seriously think that you can win a war with Chine when most of your factories are there? Kek...

You burgers seriously think that you can win a war with Chine when most of your factories are there? Kek. You people are morons. Say goodbye to your electronics.

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Really makes you chink.

Shouldn’t you be cleaning a bongs toilet?

1) It's a trade war.
2) We can't lose because the Chinese hardly buy anything, while we have the worst trade deficit in the world.
3) The factories will simply come back to the US.

The Chinese economy will collapse the moment the US declares war on Iran.

sekret weapon, we will throw lots of liberals at china until they stop

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It really makes me think. My government has betrayed me. I grew up thinking these people wanted what was best for American citizens......

of course if usa goes srious china would disapear of the map but trump is a clown not the next hitler

1) So? Your home budget will still hurt.
2) They don't need you, you need them.
3) No they won't. You don't have the know how in the US anymore.

But they will shoot the liberals. Chinks are subhumans but at least they are not infested by the western "uh oh all people deserve to be treated humanely" bullshit.

That's the point, the more liberals that die in the war effort being "strong empowered soldiers of color" the more easily the rest of the country can work together to eliminate the chink threat. My more serious hope is getting Japan on board with a real military.

I thought you wanted to, like, infiltrate liberal agendas and stuff. Not actual liberals as soldiers. How will you ever lure them into the army anyway?

Yes we really need those star wars figures

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Not having a fully internalized manufacturing capability is fucking retarded in the first place. It’s exactly what the faggot, sellout NWO ball juggling politicians have been paid to accomplish, American dependence on global resources. It’s stupid, weak, financially unsound, lefty and retarded to be dependent others when you can be autonomous.

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US literally braindrains every country in the world. Of we want product specialists, we'll hire them and fly them in and make our products on American soil. You're an ignorant fuck that doesn't know a Damon thing about manufacturing.

All I have is a computer and an old flip phone. Whenever I see something made in China I will not buy it. Fuck China man, they should have been boycott for years.

>baiting, brainlet, russian troll
what is it tell us

factories just move to some other shit-hole like what has already started happening.

no, they will move to some jungle Asian country instead.

this, all there shit is fucking garbage anyways. so many products that use to be made in Canada got outsourced to china and turned to complete trash.

This. I recall almost 80% of my class mates going to US to work and live just because there's better opportunity than here.

I don't blame them, one of them was going to get paid twice more than he would working here.

Even if the product itself isn't made in China often the parts of said product are.

id gladly make sacrifices to get factories back in America.
fuck that chink garbage anyway.
i already go out of my way not to give those soulless subhumans my business
every American should be doing the same.

The absolute worse are the wood cutting axes that are made in China. The blade geometry is all wrong, and the axes just bounce off the wood. I found a 60 year old axe head made in Germany at a garage sale and it cuts wood like butter. Fuck China and fuck all the garbage they make. I can't even go to CanadianTire anymore, it's turned into ChineseTire. I gotta go to RONA or HomeDepot and buy American.

It's mainly Taiwan, actually. You'll see it if you look at the chipsets on your motherboard. It's simple to just move the factory though. I would rather pay twice as much for a superior product to support the local economy any day.

>trade war with China
>no longer any supply for various luxuries
>Americans start opening businesses to provide these luxuries
>after a period of depression the American economy skyrockets

Yeah I think we can

Honestly good for America. I hope we back up Trump. No more Chinese espionage and IP theft.

China has already taken over you as an economic power. They will be fully in front by 2030, where you will have no chance of making a comeback.

Donald Trump pulled out of the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement) leaving China to now absolutely dominate the Pacific in terms of trade and overall influence.

China is the largest maker and distributer of the rare earth metal Thorium,which is used to make things like Apple Headphone and Phones to America's military weapons and materials. They sell everything.

>B-but we can just nuke them!

China is also a nuclear power. Guess what. Nuke a Chinese city, doesn't do shit to their economy. They are bug people and each city pulls their own weight. US loses a city? Rest in peace.

China is already influencing us, they've rooted themselves in our economy, politics and even daily living. They are doing the same thing everywhere, all the way to Africa. Soon the same will happen to you and we'll be overcome.

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You know their weaponry use Chinese steel.

Knowing it's half the battle.

all their leather products are fucking trash. all their tools are trash, pretty much everything they touch is garbage. i think we should go to war with them, teach them a fucking lesson, one dead chink for every peace of garbage they sold to the rest of the world.

US military supply chain is almost entirely stateside. I’m a giant sinoboo and still think we’d wipe the Middle Kingdom clean.

I completely agree. I've been saying the same thing for years.

I have been saying this for a while. Going to war with China is really going to fuck us hard because most of our factories are there. We need to bring the factory jobs back or we are going to be seriously fucked when the war with China starts. Anyone who doesn't realize we are 5-10 years away from a war with China is beyond delusional at this point.

Everything else is pretty much made there. It is going to completely collapse our economy when the war starts.

>You burgers seriously think that you can win a war with Chine when most of your factories are there?
You think China can wage a successful war when their primary export consumer quits buying? You're not very good at this are you OP?

Don't worry, India will be on our side.

>what is red pill
The effects of neocon/neolib economic policies on manufacturing and job displacement was well understood in the 80s. They knew back then that manufacturing was leaving and never coming back. This is why "muh millenials" memes by boomers and Xers are so insufferable.

Most defense manufacturing is in USA. Most high grade electronics do not come from China.

"when you cut off your supply chain, you win"
-trump

the factories will just be moved to vietnam or cambodia or bangladesh or some shit . as long as it's cheaper to manufacture outside, regardless of china, capitalism will make it so you absolute economic illiterate

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USA will not win that war my intuition tells me. Mongoloids are more intelligent and violent when waging war. It would be a battle where other countries will want to stab America in the back. They would take advantage of the chaos.

A huge part of China’s economy is driven on US exports. They will suffer tremendously if we go all out trade war.

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>My more serious hope is getting Japan on board with a real military.
Probably not, at the end of the day Japs have more to gain with a stronger Asian continent than a weaker one. They will stab America in the back and come to mutual terms with other Asian countries to rape and pillage the west.

It’s babies first lesson in economics, give him a break.

>They will suffer tremendously if we go all out trade war.
the US doesn't make anything china needs. airplanes? replace with airbus. services? replace with UK. cars? replace with germany. agriculture? replace with south america. on the other hand, china makes EVERYTHING the US needs. you're literally committing suicide. and will jobs and factories move back? no, because RIP

A thread where the Leaves make the most sense. Wtf timeline did we leap into today?

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>no one stops and thinks that china will wind up imploding on itself

Ok they had the upper hand through bullshit globalist cheating but we're talking about masses of people that would be ok if a few hundred million starved to death and would be looking for ways to cheat their neighbor during a massive famine. I wouldn't be pissing my pants over a country that can't keep its shit together so well.

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Yea it’s not like the japs and chinks absolutely fucking hate each other or anything.

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isn'tthere a special axe/hammer device

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b.but we are the stronggest ecomony

Retarded fucking tariffs will only cause other nations to trade with China instead of the US. Remember, these tariffs affect other countries a lot more that it affects China.

how do they tell the difference?

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Which is why they've been trying to trade with other nations recently so they become less economically dependant on the US.

So basically it's the same as trading with China then? I thought the who point of this trade war was to bring jobs and factories back to America. You don't fool anyone, pajeet.

japs are too busy fapping to hentai.

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We need china like we need toys with lead in them--because that's the kind of soulless shit China does.

Don’t forget their concrete buildings that crumble if you fucking sneeze on them the wrong way. Everyone knows Chinese products are inferior as fuck, but everyone thinks it’s excellent because muh drumpf

China still fights wars in accordance with Sun Tzu, which is nearly 49 distinct ways of deception. So if China is pretending to partner with Russia, it is at the same time sending its hoarde over the border to conquer Vladivostock and claim everything East of Baikal. Meanwhile it will also pretend to be in a trade war with the US.

Russia will never see what hit them.

And do you know why they're "inferior"? It's because they purposly do that so it costs cheaper to produce. You get what you pay for.

In WW2 almost all auto manufacturers were converted to support the war effort. In the entire span we were involved in WW2, we only produced a handful of automobiles.

Keep those factories. We have more than enough.

and how are you going to do that without rare earths? oh wait, you can't you intellectual subhuman

They've been in contact with each other for centuries. It's easy for them to come to mutual concessions. They can team up temporarily to divide Australia and New Zealand. Pillage their land and rape their women. Both deep down crave a violent retribution to the west for different reasons.

Inb4 China invades Taiwan and we all just sit and let it happen.

why don't you just export opium to them? worked before

Aye

why is outsourcing even be allowed? you're literally just handing over your country's wealth,jobs,and intellectual property to another. No sane government should allow this

You realise China import most of its raw materials, right? Factories are useless when they've got no materials to work with.

>Inb4 China invades Taiwan and we all just sit and let it happen.
Mainland considers Taiwan to be part of the mainland itself anyways, would be a weird political move.

you don't understand international trade. China needs a place to sell their goods, and the US can just take our business elsewhere, like to India or another friendly country. Without US money the chinese manufacturing will suffer, without chinese manufacturing the US can just go "oh well" and buy from somewhere else. If you don't buy from walmart, its walmart that suffers, not you

no one's cutting off imports to china. the whole trade debate is about wanting china to IMPORT MORE to balance out trade you imbecile

we can get rare earths from africa, china isn't the only place to get Thorium, they're just the most successful exporters

>Without US money the chinese manufacturing will suffer,
you mean american manufacturing. it's american companies that will suffer, not chinese
> without chinese manufacturing the US can just go "oh well" and buy from somewhere else.
where? oh that's right, nowhere 'cause china's the global supply chain of the world
> If you don't buy from walmart, its walmart that suffers, not you
it's not just consumers. it's businesses and every cross section of society that depends on chinese goods.

>we can get rare earths from africa
yeah, 'cause they had such a good experience with whitey.

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I meant for the war. China will have to nuke India first because of the threat of them invading in order to replace Chinese population.

there is more rare earths in the seabed around Hawaii than could be used in centuries

Ignoring all the economic consequences, unless US can intercept all of China's nukes, US would suffer "unacceptable damage".

Sending tourists and businessmen? They don't suddenly become Russian citizens.

In the 2010 Census, the following ethnic groups were listed:
Russian 92.5%
Chinese 0.2%
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un'goro has pretty large deposits or so I've heard.

This is their own infrastructure we’re talking about. If they don’t give a shit about their own citizens, they certainly don’t give a fuck about westerners. All the more reason for tariffs.

Of course they do, it's the first step towards making it a reality.

>Nobody will cut off exports to china during wartime.
What did he mean by this?

>china's the global supply chain of the world
Manufacturing* not supply.

He’s literally a shill for China dude, read his replies. You’re wasting your time explaining it.

>If they don’t give a shit about their own citizens
which is the west is complaining about china subsidizing its own industries. ok

checkmate

While I agree, China is currently bleeding Africa dry.

t. retard

Once china loses the stolen information of how to make things they will be back to being farmers.

usa no longer able to manufacture electronics. doesnt have the infrastructure or the technical knowledge. china is winning.

t. dog eater

this.

equals win.

>. i think we should go to war with them, teach them a fucking lesson
kek

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manufacturing is not coming back no matter how many tariffs you levy on china you subhuman

Vietnam and India are both reasonable alternatives to buy all the machined parts and consumer goods we currently get from China, at the same price, and rare earth metals are in the sea around hawaii and in accessible deposits in africa and east europe

everyone depends on foreign goods, but the country we buy from does't have to be china, there are many other options

THIS

I mean, they ALWAYS have and they know the shit storm that would happen if they ever invaded. The people of Taiwan for the most part would rather be a British colony than be associated with the mainland.

On the note of manufacturing up until Trump was elected (and even still now) a lot of companies were transitioning to Mexico for factories, Mexico factories cost about the same amount and actually are decent quality.

An example is in the HVAC industry with American Standard's (owner of Trane) "discount" line Ameristar. I have yet to have an issue with their 14 seer line from a mechanical standpoint having hundreds of them installed meanwhile my way more expensive American produced Tranes have had loads of issues. Manufacturers like to buy shit tier chinese capacitors though which resulted in almost every 2012-2014 Carrier/Bryant model suffering a a cap failure within five years. We have no problem moving our factories and plants, trust me.

The USA produces more goods than any other country on earth. Fuck china.