Don't forget Trump is also crashing the economy right now

Don't forget Trump is also crashing the economy right now.

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I-it was carryover from Obama

Hes just letting some pressure out of the tire before it inevitably pops

you dumb niggers fell for their pump and dump and you want us to give a shit

when you have nothing, you have nothing to lose

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i think the tires are stolen by niggers at this point

Releasing recession steam little by little is better than allowing the pipe to blow and cause a full blown depression.

This is fine

I want this faggot impeached

this shit is affecting my investment funds

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Oh shit it's back to where it was in November how will we all cope?!?!

Obama carryover, it'll correct itself soon

Economies don't work overnight

Fuck you, Trump stays.

The economy is not the stock market. But the economy is propped artificially with printed money and low interest rates... nothing to do with trump. But his cheerleading of the "strong" economy was dumb play by him... because it gives ammunition to idiots like you when market crashes back to reality.

>this fucking level of denial and rationalization

After the progress he made, permitted.

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yeah bro when the economy is doing good it's all Trump
but when it starts crashing well over a year after Obama left office it's all Obama's fault

>fucks us over every chance he could
>We're about to enter either a new world war, civil war, or great depression, maybe even all 3

on the bright side, least we didn't elect Hillary

Honestly, I have become an Accelerationist. Lets go worse than the Great Depression. We need to have it.

the "economy" and the "stock market" are just devices used to transfer wealth from "poor" people to people who dont need the money

historically this would end in a mass scene of beheading, buy you are too busy dicklicking to care and built of beta softness.

>Tfw you realize you spent the last two years shitposting instead of enjoying the last two normalish years of society

Fuck

yea no shit, /biz/ is losing their pants

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We need the betrayal to hit before the first term is up. The pile of cheese puffs is well on his way to doing just that. It will help break the left right cycle, by hitting too early. This increases the net civil frustration and unrest exponentially.

What's the next part of his master plan?

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ahah, nice graph, faggot

his master plan is to pay some slut for sex over the weekend, then show up monday and do what he is told

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post some dumb shit on twitter then go golfing

>Federal reserve raises interest rates
>Is threatening to do it again
>Stock market falls

Gee I wonder who could be behind this?

>crashing
Lefties really are retarded when it comes to markets, or anything money-related for that matter.

Hint: periods of low are the times you should be buying

the tires are on fire, so is the car, and we're heading for a cliff. have been for the last 50 miles

rates have been virtually zero, below zero really with inflation, in that scenario you have no economy

when the "govt" loses $5 billion a day and it gets worse every day on top of the 50 trillion you already owe, you dont have an economy

you are just buying time until the streets run with blood

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This guy gets it. So true fellow Trump supporter!!! 100% 100% "finger peace sign emoji"

The DOW has almost nothing to do with the economy, child. Stay in school.

doesn't /biz/ hate stockfags?

they love any excuse to post crying wojacks

Yup, all it takes is two days to collapse the economy.

What bubble is it? Everything bubble?

Worng usage of . And ,

Yuropoor detected

oh no please dont hurt the (((stock market))) while giving ordinary people jobs

Uh...how does Obama now get credit for a downturn over tariffs that Trump put in fucking place?

This is pretty much a summary of where we're at on the matter, How quickly it will all fall apart is anyones guess but I think the stock market will actually be the first real indication

>What bubble is it? Everything bubble?
yup, the everything bubble

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As ready as we think we are for it, and as much as i'd like to re-buy the dow at 5000. This could prove more of a "money becomes worthless for a while" sort of scenario

It could be. Fiat money is backed by trust and without it, big trouble.

Either way, up, down, or sideways, we must adapt.

A 3 month drop?

Is that something to be concerned with? Wake me up when it closes under 10k.

People thought 1,000 point drop was a big deal, even while it's only 2.5%

luckily i'm poor and don't give a fuck. also i work a secure function. if i don't go to work everyone around me dies of dehydration. when i'm out of a job, you're all dead.

I think your fiat is safer than my fiat. At least your government has no qualms with using the military to bully everyone into trading in US$. When SHTF in the coming months I genuinely expect my loonies to become worthless

Any way to hedge against that loss so you don't get absolutely murdered?

you have no idea how leveraged the market is and how much downside risk people are exposed to because it was all set up and administered on the premise of continual positive growth

>you have no idea how leveraged the market is

on the contrary.

LMAO ALL YOU SHITS THOUGHT TRUMP WAS GOOD LMAOOOOOOOOO
BTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WAKE ME UP

If the economy crashes and money becomes worthless does that mean I don't have to pay back my student loans?

but what about bitcoin

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unironically this

I'm struggling with finding a way desu, I have as much physical gold as I can store safely and a little cottage decently far away. But there really isn't anything I can do to protect my GTA house or RESP's or any kind of canadian financial instruments I own. As an older millennial who did well young and felt pressured to buy in at a less than ideal time I expect to take a complete bath on a lot of things

it is a very beneficial scenario to debt holders yes.
the diligent savers and responsible investors will get butt fucked the worst in this scenario.

then you should understand the implications of wiping out the years gains by the end of the 1st quarter

This is your economy on Republicans. Massive speculative bubbles followed by collapses. The rich get richer, the middle class and poor get fucked.

Oh no, we're at the lowest we've been in four months!
Truly we are /breadlines/ now like it's December 2017d

That's not the economy, that's the casino.

>then you should understand the implications of wiping out the years gains by the end of the 1st quarter

It would be bad for some peoples pockets, that's for sure.

False Flag!!!

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Sweet maybe it will pay to be a poorfag for once.

>real estate
>education savings plan
Oh dear. Canadian economy looks to be propped up by a flood of investment money. Taking a bath on this is a bit of an understatement.

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>economy

>lose billions every day on top of the ten of trillions you already owe.

>no interest rate for over a decade

If you're interested in a case study, Argentina went through this. A lot of people were upside down on debt so banks were keen on forgiving debt at fractions of the price issued at. For everyone that played fair and square, they got washed.

>thinking the stock market will just keep going up although you have the largest amount of debt ever know to mankind and a govt that loses billions every day and every day it gets worse

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>up 3k in one year
>crashing

/x/tards need to be permabanned.

Sorry I had meant RRSP, same basic flaws though, our banking system and the encouraged normie investment products are getting so fucked up its laughable. I have tried to do the very best I can when it comes to looking out for myself, but if I want employer contributions to my retirement I have to pay into a cucked defined contribution plan and RRSP's

Its not just foreign investment, its also public and private debt from the low interest rate party. Shit is gunna get rekt here.

wasn't aware that this happened down there, will be looking into it because its looking like a best case scenario for us here.

I'm with you buddy. I already got my survival gear just praying for the day.

>bought into largest dip since the 20's
>global central banks ZIRP the economy
>claims credit

Wew lad, hope you don't actually believe this.

Do we have to hear this stupid shit every single time? Next week it will be going up and the same people will be crowing about how Trump has nothing to do with it.

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Still up 30% since the election.

With no survivors. The fire rises.

>RRSP
Sound like a Leafistani version of IRAs. There's not much in the way to protect yourself.

I think it would also be in your best interest to stockpile some dry food items as well. If shit goes south, oil and gas suffers hard and it'll affect the prices on anything that needs processing or transport.

Being poor collegefag, I have lots of dry food items. For $0.84 a day I have a nutritionally complete rice and chili every day. No variety but I can't afford variety. Save and invest, right?

People still owe money even after SHTF economic collapse. Banks just wanted to cut their losses when they found out no one had any hope of paying those loans back.

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This guy lived through it.

>stockpile
I do try to some extent, know I could do more, have a bit of stuff at the cottage as well but know I need more cause growing food up there requires being there full time and will still be very difficult. So hard to be truly prepared isn't it.

>Save and invest, right?
Its a shame this was meme'd to us to hard, I know everyone in my family pushed it hard and now it looks like we could have had a lot more fun, done the normal thing and relied a lot more heavily on debt, while ultimately winding up in the same situation.

Also if you're looking for apocalypse wheels (I know i'm going to need them up here where I'll be going) I have settled on old diesel mercedes being the best possible choice; they don't require electricity and will run on a lot of things.

So should I buy a house now and take on some debt or save my down payment money and wait. Will house prices fall in expensive cities or will my money become worthless if I keep it?

I do believe that preparation, even if I get washed on the financial end at times, is still good. There are some things that can only be learned with time and experience. I got washed in my first year trying to invest, and I've learned from that. No big deal, opportunities come.

For the time being, one year of respirators, a month of bottled water and filters, three months of food, and a roof over my head. I'm fine with that. At least I won't starve and find out what it truly feels to be without. People tend to find their true natures when they have nothing left, and then that's when it gets really ugly.

As for wheels, the diesel Mercedes is really nice. A Japanese economy car works pretty well in the US given the infrastructure. Not too demanding and takes a beating.

>implying the economy isn't significantly changed until about two years after economic policy is integrated

Just how dumb are you?

It all depends on your level of faith in the system. Up here I'm genuinely concerned leaf money will become worthless so I want as little of it as possible. Unfortunately real estate is so over priced that i'm not willing to take the risk of grossly leveraging myself in the hopes of future debt forgiveness in the new economy.

If we just get 2008 again than I want as much cash as possible to buy the dip.

you, like all of us millennial who are financially minded are facing some serious mindfucks of questions

Investors got hyped, it's not gonna crash.
They've been doing this since 2008.

Drumpf was a mistake

>People tend to find their true natures when they have nothing left, and then that's when it gets really ugly.
For this reason I fear living in the city, but unfortunately right now this is where I need to be. You sound really well prepared user, hoping you will be /comfy/ in the times to come.

You're also right about preparation being more important than the financial cost, it can just be so hard to justify when it seems the fundamental flaws seem to matter less and less as the whole party keeps truckin on.

>implying the best buying oppoetunity of your life wouldnt be exciting to witness

Cowards fall of hills, opportunists run up them

Are you of Jewish descent? If not, you may want to ask yourself, why are you heil mein fuhrer Sagiri-chan

I have some cash on hand, even if it's not much. I'd like to see it crash as low as possible to make the best use of it. I'm eager to see this happen but there are long reaching consequences of a crash like that. It's all give and take with stuff like that.

Who cares about the economy? I only care about killing all the jews

>market goes up thousands under Trump
>it's all thanks to king nigger
>market goes down a few hundred
>REEE FUCK DRUMPH
>market recovers like always
>thanks le based black prez! #woke

isnt this kawaii? youtube.com/watch?v=5B1RQtXR4pc My loli is so cute and she loves me.

Wow....I cannot believe I voted for such a meme president. Fucking impeach drumpf now.

Hopefully it's /comfy/ for you too.

Just as a guideline for the respirators, if it got really bad and Canadian healthcare just kept getting worse, disease spreads everywhere, especially airborne stuff. On eBay, buy a case of 3M 9210, and you get 240 of them, good for roughly 40 hours a piece. That's about $65 CAD. They're individually wrapped. If you need splash resistance, 3M 1860 is roughly $32 CAD but they're not wrapped and come in cases of 120. 3M is cheapest in USA and also doesn't smell like it came from China. One of the best deals with Canuckistani Pesos around when it comes to general pollution and biohazard.

As for the justification, it's all a matter of personal preference on how much sacrifice is front-loaded. I have no problem giving all I've got early on since that's the best time to take on the biggest chunk of work. I would have a problem far later on when there's hardly the time or vitality left to make things right.

Respirators have an expiry date, but not because the filters stop working. The foam and rubber bands that seal the mask to your face is what is at risk of failing.

Their best-by date is very conservative though. They maintain as good a seal as the new stuff for a fraction of the price.

So when it's doing well, it's Obama fault. When it tanks, it's Trump. Makes perfect sense thanks.

I'm not an economics expert but in such an event like the Great Depression wouldn't there be mass inflation therefor making cash almost worthless? Seems to me there are better things to store your value in instead of cash if you think the markets are gonna crash hard.

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Technically yes. Value drops hard while cash supply remains high. It would be close to inflation scenario. The rest of the world would panic as well since they have lots of USD that suddenly lost value.

I don't know what would happen after that though.