Working on a Sup Forums curriculum so that people actually get educated, anyone have suggestions for reading lists and other content? We've got so much information on Sup Forums that we're pretty much an unofficial intelligence agency but the tragedy is that it's not organised and people come across it in bits and pieces. Topics so far >World Wars >JQ >League of Nations/United Nations >Current relations between US/CH/RU >European migration crisis >South Africa situation >CIA/intelligence agency activities?
Ideally it'd be structured like proper courses, with people learning fundamentals first (first course would be adjusting to a redpilled mindset for normies) and then being introduced to actual evidence and case studies. I have no idea how to do this (maybe we could start by organising good screencaps) but if we actually get a curriculum Sup Forums would become so much more efficient as opposed to relying on a handful of informed people for each issue. Chaos helps Sup Forums in many events but introducing order and implementing a base education level would improve the board quality massively with both discussion quality and proposed solutions improving.
Classics, i.e. Greece and Rome. Not too much, though, only what's relevant politically and philosophically.
Has Camp of the Saints ever gotten an English translation, or is it still only in frog?
Aiden Parker
Will do - should I add in Aurelius and Seneca as well?
Easton Wilson
In a raw list, sure, although we'd definitely need to condense what we present if we want a non-zero chance of anons reading it.
Jason Perez
Yeah, I'm thinking of doing something like a google doc/pdf with a brief summary of recent events and implications, along with links to the actual sources for extra reading
Isaac Parker
Yeah, 'cause these lists are long, and not all is applicable. The interesting thing is, though not all of it's essential reading, most of it can provide insight in some way. Isolating the really important stuff and having the rest as auxiliary reading/viewing would really help with spreading knowledge.
Hudson Gutierrez
Make sure Socrates gets in the list
Landon Garcia
Definitely, we really do need some way to actually educate people properly on the basics since a lot of people don't have time to read books that are hundreds of pages long I looked it up, and I was able to find a 1975 translation by Scribner, a paperback by Ace Books in 1977, and by the Social Contact Press in 1995 along with some kindle ebook version
Gavin Wood
Have you made a starter place to aggregate the stuff? If you could get a link or something here, I'd be happy to continue working on it longer than this thread will last. Something more permanent, as a starting point.
Aaron Gray
I was considering creating a goygle account to dump books and documents on a drive, but I'm not sure how to make it so that people can add/modify/remove files if they have the link Might be the case that there's a better alternative, but again I'm not aware of one
Anthony Ortiz
Culture of critique is good but takes advanced motivation. Codoh.org has its books available as pdf downloads. I'm no expert, but one or two in there ought to be able accessible to a beginner to debunk the holohoax.
With Drive, you can give people the three tiers of access. There's viewing, commenting (I think), and editing. That would allow you to selectively decide who can modify it, and you could make it visible to everyone with the link.
I can't believe nobody has suggested economics. If everyone had even a fundamental understanding, society would improve significantly. Just make sure it is real economics and not (((economics))).
Justin Perez
You need to have human biodiversity and evolutionary psychology as part of the curriculum
replace the Y, the link should let people add and modify files/folders
Henry Walker
Any restrictions on deleting so it can't be sabotaged?
Xavier Anderson
>Google Drive You know that it'll get shut down pretty fast right?
Luis Perry
Anyone with edit permissions can also delete, the only response I can see to this is just to keep manually reversing deletions through admin log Always open to more alternatives, user
James Phillips
Yeah, if we make too much noise. Knowing the nature of this place, that's inevitable. We will need a more secure place that isn't run by Google. Problem is, creating and maintaining a website will be a challenge. Yeah, vigilance would keep it mostly in check.
Is that just what it is? I saw the .onion, and I wasn't sure if there was a different collection of information on there.
Samuel Clark
oh yeah - some of them maybe duplicated
Wyatt Cooper
Ok, so we have probably thousands of books and other resources on every topic we could possibly use. It could be a bit daunting to some, so the mission's not quite accomplished yet. We have a ridiculous amount of material to work with, though. Just for posterity, in case anyone didn't save the list to their own computers, it is also in the U/pol/ folder.
Jose Jackson
I agree. Here's some uniquely important concepts you never hear about in conventional econ, about income equilibrium and the effects of the cash savings rate.
If we're going to do something together we're going to need a whole compendium of real, grounded economics knowledge. There's way too many books out there that push theories detached from what really happens in modern market economies.
Nathan Carter
Read "American School of Economics". It'll open your eyes pretty fucking fast. No American universities taught about the school nowadays.
I would understand not being exactly trusting of one another, but perhaps we could make a Discord to coordinate our efforts.
Gabriel Baker
Here we go, "A central bank with policies aimed at promoting enterprise growth rather than speculation."
Money supply is one of our best gov tools for protecting against the cash savings rate spiral so we need the central bank to be doing more than just hoarding and selling big wealth assets as far as money circulation goes.
Adam Morris
Do you know which countries in the past have adopted the American School of Economics: 1. America during those golden periods 2. Nazi Germany to become economically significant, after Weimar Germany was on the verge of bankruptcy after WWI 3. Japan's economic miracle after WWII 4. China after 1975 economic reform.
Yep, all of them used American School of Economics. All three principles. 3.
Lucas Scott
Things are going to be a bit tougher this time around.
For ex, America's infrastructure maintenance isn't going to be adding any commercial productivity because it's not new construction, just repairing old structures. This is one of the reasons why Trump focused on the tax reform (to start the GDP uptrend) before tackling infrastructure spending.
Jace Anderson
good luck with finding pol/acks who know how to read books
Aaron Jones
>America's infrastructure maintenance isn't going to be adding any commercial productivity because it's not new construction, just repairing old structures. Needs both. Which is why Trump offers the trillion dollars in infrastructure spending. And even if it's only repairing old structures, it's still significantly important. You know why? Because good infrastructure brings the cost and time-travel of logistics way way down, indirectly helping with manufacturing bases. The reason why most manufactures are in China is because China has a very good infrastructure (you'll be surprised how Chinese infra is even much better than current American infra). Another thing is infrastructure ALWAYS brings a significant amount of jobs and GDP growth. ALWAYS.
Luis Reyes
Mega is so confusing. how do i download these items to my phone?
Camden Young
I've never done it on a phone, but you just select the individual pdf in the folder you want and download each separately.
Maybe theres a mega.nz app?
Ryan Martin
Go ahead and post a server invite link. I don't expect it to go anywhere but it'll be some decent chitchat perhaps.
Mason Thomas
Use your computer to download stuff. Phones are not optimized for these links.
Brandon Ross
If not for the goal, we could at least do it for the conversation. XduuA7W is the invite
Ethan Jackson
Actually, never mind. It's unlikely that many people are even in this thread anymore. Oh well.
Carson Sanders
Just got my mike ready, but alas the expired invite.
Ian Scott
I could start it back up, but it'll probably just be us, and my microphone doesn't even work.
Liam Powell
It's up to you, really. We might be able to get more people in it some other time.
Henry Wright
Go for it. I'll hop in for a bit.
Connor Long
The synagogue of Satan White cover expanded edition
Mason Phillips
gKX3eU
Isaiah Sullivan
Bump
Jacob Roberts
Join this Discord, it has lots of literature on many topics WW7TDr6
Easton Peterson
cool
Alexander Allen
I would suggest reading the base books for different kind of ideologies. That would mean Mein Kampf just as it would mean Das Kaptial or Wealth of Nations. Just to get an general idea of what the other in an argument might think. Even better if he diddn't read it himself and you can quote from their groundwork while he can't.
Start with your own language. Clean it up, and entire oceans of ink will be saved, and you will speak so much more intelligently and clearly: > Style: Lessons in Clarity and Grace, by Joseph M Williams. Use this book as your priority reading. Use Grammar Bytes online as an accompaniment and extra lessons in grammar and glossary. Also use Cambridge or Oxford Companion to the English Language Dictionary.
That right there will put you lightyears ahead of any bullshit they taught you in school.
Someone should make a torrent like /k/'s do/k/ument or Sup Forums's Sup Forumsentooman library. Not everyone will seed but as long as someone does it will never truly die.
Nathaniel Murphy
For a bump
Sup Forums is often overwhelming and can be off putting sometimes. It'd be helpful for nufags/lurkers like me if there was a regularly "book club" type thread where we could go read/view/listen and then discuss in a thread with more "experienced" people without getting roasted for what is seem as a dumb fuck question.
Christian Bell
Course topic suggestions: >history of Sup Forums >past/present/future of the Internet (3 course series) >online activism / hacktivism >some basic tech literacy and opsec >law in the digital age
Isaac Diaz
Good suggestions, do you have any ideas on reading material/screencaps to add?
Mason Myers
I'll add those as folders to the gdoc for now but please contribute if you have time
James Gray
What's wrong with getting roasted? >muh safe space