Now that the MAGA train has come to a halt we should talk about how the coming Iran war will turn out.
Iran is obviously much stronger and larger than Iraq was but will it be enough to fend off the US military?
Will Russia and China step in or just supply Iran? What will Europe and the ME countries do? What will Israel do? Does the US even have enough cash for another war?
Post your detailed predictions.
Let's talk about the coming Iran war
>Will Russia and China step in
China will have to engage. First order of business in any war with Iran is to close the Hormuz strait. That means 90% of China's oil supply will be shut off, with little in the way of substitution.
Can someone please redpill me on the whole Iran war meme that's going around
How do you know US is going to war with Iran?
Israel #1
why cant we just not go to war, I am sure if you asked americans they would say no
Israelis are shilling for it, neocons are shilling for it. USA lost a lot of influence in ME at the expense of Russia and Iran. Their friends in SA are still struggling against Houthis in Yemen.
Syrian conflict is practically won by Assad.
They either have to accept this loss of influence or strike back.
That said, Iran will be the tomb of American empire. They can't win. It's suicidal.
it wont happen
It will happen. I remember how after invading Iraq there was talk of going to Libya and Syria next, and absolutely nobody believed it because "Syria is a proper state", the Russians, etc etc. It was all mad rambling. And then, not only did it happen, it became The war of the decade.
I have no idea myself but I'm actually interested in how it would be.
I don't think it matters what the plebs think.
Did they really lose influence, though? Syria was a US offensive. They failed to topple Assad but he's still weaker than before.
A lot of Syrian land is in control of rebels, kurds and turks. Compared to before it seems like the Russia-Iran-Syria side has lost power.
What is average NATO base on the middle-east looks like?
the reason is why are russian so cucked if i have thier military power i would send them and advertence of a nuclear weapon to the israel frontier and we would see how fast all their imperial dream woululd kiss the dust and accept their submision
This .
Incrementalism and a fish memory population together with propaganda, bread and circus ensures the US fights on
monte negro
Notpaying my taxes. In fact might go fight for Iran.
Unless Russia has been tasked to not get involved and supply china with oil /gas so both sit it out ..
This leaves NATO, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, America to destroy Iran the only wild card here is Turkey.
this. bolton also shilled for the iraq invasion and every single piece of neocon policy. the war is real. in terms of how it'll play out....i think russia and china will get involved, so it'll be another long drawn out mess like syria. that's assuming nukes don't get used though. but iran doesn't have them yet, so maybe bolton will take the first strike. he's also a fan of pre-emptive strikes. against NK too
yeah, it's gonna be bad for iran
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Iran is the finale stage in the five year plan that was put in place after 911.
>Unless Russia has been tasked to not get involved and supply china with oil /gas so both sit it out ..
not likely, i don't think. iran is bolstering its support in china and russia
Iran looking to boost China, Russia ties to counter US ‘hostility’
timesofisrael.com
Mek terrorists will be the new leaders of Iran. Bolton will bring death and suffering to Iranians by “”””liberating”””””””” them.
Bolton wants talk with North Korea JUST to show it DOESNT work so when Iran deal is ripped up he can use that as the justification.
If both Russia and China sit it out it won't even be a fight. Iran will be utterly btfo.
Though I doubt Russia would let it happen. If Iran falls the noose around the Russian neck will be tightened.
The Russians even have troops in Syria so I think it's no question that they would send military personnel to Iran, too.
Russian versus us troops in Iran like in Syria? Will they crave up the nation?
>How do you know US is going to war with Iran?
Trump appointed John Bolton as his security advisor
You underestimate the time and cost of rerouting Russian oil to China. Even the pipeline they are building now won't be operational until 2022.
>Iran will be utterly btfo.
That's what this guy Saddam thought too. Russia will of course covertly or overtly supply Iran no matter what happens. The Iranian army especially the IRGC are on a whole different level than Iraq's in 2003. The US and Israel will win, but at much greater cost than they imagine.
China could be told to sit it out or else India becomes the counter
Russia could be told to sit it out by selling oil/gas to China since Russias economy is dependent on it ..
I agree with you both china and Russia would get involved but there is always those options to counter how much they get involved.
>Did they really lose influence, though?
The influence has been slipping away for years before the syria war even started. Going into Afghanistan and Iraq was a means to secure the influence for a longer period of time.
If the USA fails to achieve its objectives in the middle east its economy will deteriorate to brazil levels, and they will have the demographics to back it up.
Reminds me of the slow fall of the roman empire. Took hundreds of years to fall, how many knew their empire was in a death spiral?
I think that Saudis could be glad to fund US war against Iran.
Hopefully that terrorist nation will get destroyed.
Iran is a mountainous labyrinth full of innaccessible and easily defendible strongholds all over. Their military is the strongest in Asia on par with China's. Possible nuclear capabilities. And they have a population of over 80 million.
Even without Russian involvement, this is WW3.
the thing is, china might just intervene 'cause they've invested massively in iran.
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I don't know, but at the point we attack Iran on Israel's behalf (sorry, as part of our international obligations to ensure world safety and peace, confront terrorism and deal with a direct threat to the national interest), I start opposing this administration.
If they were actually doing something substantive to address our immigration problem and remove illegals en masse, I'd accept it as the price we have to pay, but since they're not, I have no reason to support them anymore.
Iran wouldn't stand a chance in direct military combat. They'd have to resort to urban warfare to bog down the U.S. like what happened in Iraq.
>China could be told to sit it out or else India becomes the counter
what do you mean?
>Russia could be told to sit it out by selling oil/gas to China since Russias economy is dependent on it ..
that shouldn't be affected by a war in iran...? can you explain your reasoning?
>How do you know US is going to war with Iran?
bolton engineered the iraq invasion
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I’m just wishing for a mass suicide of all amerimutts. I’m sick and tired of these literal half negroe monkeys getting involved in every country and trying to make the whole world negroe and Jewish worshipping cucks like themselves.
You're next. The colonizer will become the colonized, and unlike us you won't have guns to fight a war of independence.
This. European whites' best option is to shill hard and long for the browning of America. American 'whites' are the real threat.
yeah, it'll have to depend on how good their guerilla forces are. the US might also send in israeli and saudi troops as well.
anyways, whatever the outcome, it's going to be a costly war footed by taxpayers
You fags wanted happenings, you're about to get the biggest one of all.
shut up you fucking disgrace
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Our football team is all-white, bro.
Honestly like I don't give a crap about amerimmuts or green kikes I just hope that one of these wars just ends up triggering Armageddon already I'm done with this bs jew world the Darwinistic survival will determine the survivors and then they can build a stronger better world.
>Iran wouldn't stand a chance in direct military combat
>Thinks Iran will go in direct combat with the US military
Hey genius, they've been planning a US attack since the 80s. They know and knew since 1980s that they cannot win against the US using conventional methods. That is why they went for assymetric warfare. Their goal would be to defend themselves by making an invasion cost prohibiting both in terms of money and human life. There is a reason why Obama didn't want to invade Iran, even though he didnt think twice about Syria and Libya. Obama was smart. He knew Iran would be a disaster. Trump is a retard and he might very well fall for it.
Meaning India would start it's border disputes and Hong Kong would start riots ect to keep china not involved in Iran ..
Russia could sit it out by trading with china while the strait of hormus is shut and selling weapons on the side ..
It's win win for both to physically stay out of Iran .
no. Iranians will overthrow the mullahs and the ayatollah and iran+saudi arabia will create a muslim nato and a muslim eu (like france and germany with the eu). middle east will be peaceful. and usa will leave. thank trump for this.
I don't think it is a foregone conclusion that Iran would be able to close the Strait of Hormuz for any appreciable length of time.
Turks aren't white hanz
So what will you kike cock suckers do, escort every fucking oil tanker in the midst of a war?
Mind your own business. Go organize a 4th reich or something, pussy
I'm a Montenigra and I mean the Montenigra team. I should have clarified this.
>Did they really lose influence, though? Syria was a US offensive. They failed to topple Assad but he's still weaker than before.
>A lot of Syrian land is in control of rebels, kurds and turks. Compared to before it seems like the Russia-Iran-Syria side has lost power.
Assad is not weaker. Every ally defends election because they know Assad would win.
Rebels are terrorists, the true rebels of the beginning are all dead to terrorists.
ISIS got defeated but Al-Nusra is still operating masked as rebels.
The Kurds control huge part of the territory, but right now, for Iran this is great because right now the Kurd state covers exactly all southern borders of Iran,creating a buffer if the Americans choose to attack. Even if the kurds allign with US in exchange for independence, the Turks won't allow that, and Turkey is NATO(what a joke).
>If both Russia and China sit it out it won't even be a fight. Iran will be utterly btfo.
Iran will lose, but not that easily. The US didn't even managed to clean Afganistan. The US have terrible record on difficult terrain. Iran is not Iraq, you can't just blitzkrieg through the desert. Also, Saddam's troops were demoralized from the start.
How about Afghanistan?
Oh, I've met a couple montenegrens before. They were alright I guess.
What if I told you we could drill our own massive oil reserves and laugh as the rest of the world goes down in flames?
there will never be a war with iran. the kikes are delusional.
Iran's military proper gets BTFO'd within weeks, Followed by 10 year insurgency and American withdraw, leaving Iran a massive, bombed out shithole where extremism rules and people shoot each other with mad max trucks.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Not a kike cocksucker (or any kind of cocksucker), I don't want or support any war against Iran.
Strategically speaking, however, we've already done something similar there before during the Iran-Iraq war in the 80's. Iran got uppity toward us for a while, so we sank their entire navy in an afternoon. The disparity in power has only increased since then, so yeah, I expect a similar style of decapitation against Iranian naval assets and shore batteries followed by beachhead preparation for a feint at an amphibious landing.
That will be apart of the Central Asian Union.
>What if I told you I'm a moron who doesn't understand markets, trade patterns, fracking and the oil industry in general?
mfw
iran is basically afghanistan on steroids, huge country high technology
>doesn't understand the US doesn't need the rest of the world
Iran is not that much stronger than Iraq in 2003. People also forget that the radical religious fanatics in Iran may be 10 to 20 percent but only a fraction of those want to get killed by US bombs and superior weaponry.
As with Iraq, winning thr conventional war is a piece of cake done in a few weeks. The occupation of Iran would be a nightmare because Iran has enough radicals that want to blow themselves up to make the occupation chaotic.
Trump would have to radically invest in mobile robotic androids that can strategically ensure safety in an occupied Iran.
>during the Iran-Iraq war
The Republican Guards were equipped with rubber dinghies and homemade mines, and even then they disrupted trade for months.
>The disparity in power has only increased
Not at all. Iranians have been preparing for 30 years. All they need is mines and mortars, and they have plenty of those.
So 1 of 2 or 2 of 2 will happen. War with Korea or Iran?
In any case that will make everyone forget about how bad Russia is, and how everyone hates when USA invades countries and creates more problems than it eliminates. After every war USA enters there is a lonh echo that changes everything in the US political landscape and the world - new leaders arise, new weapons get developed, new factions unite.
Lol good luck. They call Iran the Fortress for a fucking reason.
actually, now that i think more about it, i'd be surprised if china sits back and does nothing. iran is an important part of its belt and road
The day the cheeto fatass withdraws from the iran nuclear deal is the day that either
1. Iran finally builds a nuke
2. The US invades Iran
one of the most retarded posts ive ever seen
China has the norks back, Going to have to wait for WW3 to take care of them.
>sunnis and shias getting together
nah, not gonna happen
they are incapable of peace
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bolton's not just some talkinghead, he's serious
They will change their minds after pearl harbor 3, a.k.a. 9/11 part deux.
The Iranian army doesn't even intend to fight a conventional war
Honestly any conflict with Iran should not be led directly by the US. If we want to fix the Middle East then we need prod Saudi Arabia to fight a war against Iran alone and then the US curbstomps the winner. We aren't getting anywhere by working with the people that funded 9/11
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Mines, mortars, and small boats were all they had then, too. Now we have versions of the Phalanx CIWS that do the pew pew to their putt putts.
>how good their guerilla forces are
Haven't you heard of Hezbollah? They are masters of guerilla, now they get better in Syria. There will be not only war in Iran, but in Iraq too, since a lot of Iranian fighters help Iraq.
Iran has a lot of mountains where people can hde, they have some kind of fleet, submarines even. Saudis can't defeat Houthis that have 1/20 of Iranian tech, and USA thinks it can defeat Iranians in a long war of attricion? Local population wouldn't have good view of America since they don't like being bombed after they comply with all the sanctions and shit. And USA will bring sunni fuckers to shia lands with them even more complicating sectarian hatred. Americans can ruin Iran, but they can't win this war. And it will have more consequences in the region since Russia and China will help whoever gets in power in Iran next. Like we did in Iraq.
only in a perfect world. I think you are forgetting about the Zionist extremists in power using Israel and Wahhabism in SA
actually, the fundamentals don't change that much. US vassals are forever vassals, it doesn't matter what the US does. what do you think putin will do?
So you think all USA will do next 2-3 years is barking and threatening? Soon Kim will have his 50 rockets that can reach USA.
Saudis can’t even beat a bunch of flip-flop wearing Yemeni Shias.
Drone bomb every port and Irani ship.
>Iran is obviously much stronger and larger than Iraq
iran is incredibly weak.
Why else would obama educate trump on nuclear football before donny boy was sworn in
>Their military is the strongest in Asia on par with China's
u liar, iran doesn't even have a military. the mullahs don't allow it.
>Haven't you heard of Hezbollah? They are masters of guerilla, now they get better in Syria.
right, they can definitely win against american troops, but israeli? i'm not sure?
>USA thinks it can defeat Iranians in a long war of attricion?
yeah, that won't work. the thing is, we're dealing with a president that literally asked "if we have nukes, why don't we use them". i can see the US just nuking tehran since iran doesn't have any means to strike back.
>And it will have more consequences in the region since Russia and China will help whoever gets in power in Iran next. Like we did in Iraq.
what do you mean?
Did not realize I was conversing with a 12 yo. Don't you have school or something?
>So you think all USA will do next 2-3 years is barking and threatening?
US will invade NK as talks between trump and kim are almost bound to fall apart. bolton favors pre-emptive strike
Its saturday you weed sperging neet
You don't know geopolitics, fundamentals change even in a small war. Some allies betray, some allies get tired of losses, some allies will join to show allegiance. Prices of oil will change, owners will change, long signed contracts will be gone, international law breached once again, some weapons will prove useless and some prove to be worth it, conspiracy theories will grow in size, some of them will be proven true and publicized, some new words will be coined, new memes, new graves, new wrecks on the bottom of the sea, new blood fewds for dead relatives that will last decades, everything will echo if USA attacks Iran.
Putin will probably support Iran and be even more hostile towards US, more people will look for protection from USA, since it will be obvious, that USA acts irrational and guided by Israel who has the nukes. Saudi Arabia will be emboldened to do even more crazy shit knowing they have no competition in the region.
Explain what is retarded in it, meme flag poster.
lol you are facing a proper army not gorilla fighters. When that army loses that is it the war is over.
its not the same as Afghan and yemen.
they did tho? they control 85% of the country
Will end like the 2006 Hezbollah versus IDF
None of the goals versus Iran will be reached.
Losses will be high
.Lots of things will be destroyed.
The ZOG main army will be humiliated.
There are no ground troops in the area to invade Iran besides Special Forces.
Troops in Iraq,Syria and Afghanistan would have to fight for their own survival because they are encircled and swarmed.
How to supply NATO in Afghanistan when Bagram AF is being bombed with rockets ?
How could Murican Troops survive in Iraq while being swarmed by tens of thousands of shia fighters ?
How could murricans survive in Syria while they are cut off in a remote country side ?
Yes Air Force and Navy could bomb stuff but thats not winning a war.
Go play cuckball or faggotball or whatever you mutts call 'sports'. Anything is better than making a fool out of yourself here - go enjoy chjldhood!
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And they will lose South Korea as a result since South Koreans won't be fond of USA after that. China will only grow in influence since they will be seen as rational. More people will buy weapon from China and look to them for protection. Today is Kim, but who can guarantee that USA won't attack Myanmar tommorow because of muh rohingya shit or some other shit?
>its not the same as Afghan and yemen.
too fat