Why does every pro-gun argument center around hypotheticals? Nobody really thinks the government has it out for you, even if they don't inherently care about you.
Why does every pro-gun argument center around hypotheticals? Nobody really thinks the government has it out for you...
Thomas Jenkins
Gabriel Long
Why does every shitposting Facebook liberal refuse to learn how to blend in on Sup Forums?
Zachary Green
Not advocating against owning a gun, but really if you were worried about a tyrannical government, the gun is more a last line of defense when people are marching to your door and you need to make a last stand. The more sensible alternative is saboteur business and werewolf style insurgency.
You don't even really have to be committed to be a horrible nuisance against tyrants, just about everyone works or does stuff in a position where they could cause real damage if they had the inclination, but very few people ever do because they have no desire to shit things up.
Gabriel Ross
>> They don't have it out for you
> He didn't sleep with the Sheriff's daughter
Angel Torres
It's trying to counteract the "No NEED for gun", which is bad in itself because a list of needs would be less than most people would be willing to accept
Henry Lopez
>Nobody really thinks the government has it out for you
Daniel Watson
>Nobody really thinks the government has it out for you, even if they don't inherently care about you.
Literally only a government can enact terror on its own people
Gavin Barnes
Could you guys not try and pathetically raid /k/? I'm just tryna find some aesthetic images and your shit threads ruin that
Jaxon Sullivan
Yeah, I mean, when has a government ever hurt it’s own people? Bunch of conspiracy theorists huh.
Kill yourself you ignorant fuck
Blake Cooper
>Why does every anti-gun argument center around emotions and not facts or logic?.
Robert Reed
Progun liberal here, think about it in terms of banning knowledge. Just because you ban it doesn't mean it will go away.
Sure you can point to Australia and say hey they can't have guns there and they don't have gun crime. And you would be partially correct. But Australia is not the united states, it has far fewer means of ingress for contraband. And far fewer people. The point here being is you can ban guns and make a temporary dent in gun crime. That said it won't last.
But you are still betting on three things: one no one will build guns, two there will be no future demand for guns (aka all hell breaks loose and people start making smgs out of spare parts) and three that it is morally correct to take away what is essentially a simple tool from a none criminal in order to stop violence.
So yeah you can advocate to taking away something you have no knowledge of. And sure if there was a ban I'd turn in my guns, safe in the knowledge as long as I have access to iron, brass, lead and few other choice of elements that guns are never more than a hot forge away.
Easton Young
>Why does nobody trust the same government that has outright said they have experimented on civilians and intervened in democratic processes multiple times?
>Why don't people trust me any my pro-police stance while I claim police are racist bigots who are only in it for the money?
>Why does every anti-gun argument have me trusting a group of shady ass individuals "for muh greater safety"
Jackson Brooks
>Nobody really thinks the government has it out for you
Angel Richardson
Yes, the government has it out for you. They just make out they don't so you don't get suspicious.
Look at Australia, first guns taken, then self defence items like OC spray and batons, now they've banned airsoft and are banning gel ball blasters, armed police raids on TOY GUN importers - these are cap guns many of us played with as kids.
This government has left the track long ago, they're corrupt and only care the rich and the banks.
Jeremiah Martin
Holy fuck why can't people like you be the head of the libs and not the idiots that don't factor in these kind of things?
Juan Martin
Primarily because it's a Bill of Rights and not a Bill of Needs. Hypothetical situations can easily turn into real ones and they do daily, I'd just prefer to be in the hypothetical situation where I can defend myself against any reasonable threat.
Lincoln Jones
Also consider that the division of violence in the U.S. is more indicative of dramatic gang activity than anything else. In the end, the vast majority of violent offenders would still be violent offenders, just using contraband weapons- and with a right now stripped.
Liberals should view any and all rights being stripped as a defacto negative until pragmatism forces them to give in, shouldn't they? Isn't that the definition of the stance?
William Sullivan
Do you even into statistics you moronic fuck? There is no reason whatsoever to ban guns if you look at literally any country that has done it or if you look at the AWB we already had. There's no anti gun argument that doesn't revolve around "muh feelings". Neck yourself faggot
Levi Parker
First for "banned to Sup Forums"
Julian Stewart
Nicholas Taylor
I doubt America will ever use a drone on its own soil, that'd cause riots.
But what does the average American with an AR-15 and a bump stock think he could accomplish against the heavily militarised police force let alone the army if they get brought it?
Nathaniel Jones
>Nobody really thinks the government has it out for you
>T. has never read american history
Daniel Flores
I see a lot of pink and green and not so many people.
Take a stab at the number of militants in the near east made an international stink, and then actually look it up.
Once you're done with that, look up how many people in the U.S. own significant amounts of firearms.
Ryder Morris
>Take a stab at the number of militants in the near east made an international stink
>and then actually look it up.
I'll need you to rephrase that statement in English for me to be able to do that.
Lincoln Gonzalez
>Take a stab at the number of militants in the near east [that] made an international stink
retards guess in the millions
>and then actually look it up
ISIS was 200k at its peak
>Once you're done with that, look up how many people in the U.S. own significant amounts of firearms.
over 9.25 million individuals are significantly armed such that they could provide firearms to at least 2 other people. In actuality there are as many guns available as their are people in the United States.
A bunch of towels with AK's and sometimes improvised explosives managed to chill in the East for over a decade, what would happen in an urban domestic environment?
What happened with the IRA, which was a much smaller per-person fraction of combatants? What happened in Chicago, where it was just shitty gangbangers thwarting militarized police for decades?
>Oh, yes, the gub will just bomb all of its major cities, sweep the countryside, and corral a fully motorized populace.
I hope that clears things up.
David Morgan
Because hypotheticals are literally why the 2nd Amendment exists
Jaxon Morales
>history is hypothetical
Sage.
Elijah Barnes
>China didn't even have enough government oversight to actually enforce a ban.
heh
Lincoln Moore
Nice flags
Dominic Cook
>Progun liberal here
t. reddit antifa member who's only pro-gun cause muh drumpf
Camden Stewart
Just like abortion - if you don't like guns, don't get one. Making them illegal, people will just get them anyway if they really want them.
Austin Reyes
Make sure you lick both boots.