The absolute state of christgoys

>friend drags me to some christaian club thing, they're all fucking catholics
>theres a pastor there
>we make small talk
>I ask him who killed jesus, and why did God let it happen
>ask why god didn't take revenge for his murdered son
>he says that who killed him isn't relevant and that the important thing is that he died for our "sins"
>ask what my sin is
>he says I was born with it
>ask him how a fair god would give a newborn baby a sin
>....muh jesus
>walk out
>see a fucking jesus loves everyone rainbow poster
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THIS KEKED RELIGION
YOU FAGGOTS CAN'T EVEN NAME (((WHO))) KILLED JESUS
ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC
I'm not atheist/agnostic either, inb4 shitty fedora memes.

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Nowadays christianity is very leftist religion, it promotes egalitarism and cuckoldry

>doesn't understand the concept of original sin
> not atheist or agnostic
(((You)))

It's bullshit and only exist to ensure that you're a good goy that goes to church and pays donations.
fuck off with this shit, i didn't kill, steal, or rape anyone. I wasn't born with no fucking sin.
literally a concept to enslave the good goys and keep them in serfhood

Liberal Catholic and Episcopalian churches along with all these mega-church things distort God's word. Ignore His commands and refuse to name the Jew who so opposed Christ and the Christians after Him. Their belief is all about feeling good and not actually soul-winning or talking about sin and they cut out half the Bible or water it down with new ((((((editions))))). Go to a fundamental Baptist, Orthodox, or Sedevacantist Vatican I church

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>T-THATS NOT REAL CHRISTIANITY
Meanwhile...
>TERRORISTS DONT REPRESENT US THATS NOT REAL ISLAM

>Fails to understands that the concept of original sin makes no fucking sense.

A TALKING FUCKING SNAKE

Can I find a list for least cucked denominations?

Is it real anything when you cut out half of it and replace it with stuff you made up or just don't talk about it? No True Scotsman only applies to someone who is truly doing the thing correctly and people try to say they are not on an arbitrary basis. If you don't follow the Bible you are not Christian. That is an objective basis

>the absolute state of Jews
>Fellow white people
>check your privilege
kys
sage

>why didn't God get revenge.
He did, against the jews who killed him. This priest should have forced fed you scripture. Like a pornstar shoving his dick down your pretty face. Taste like peanut-butter jelly.

I can make the same argument for islam.
ISIS isn't real islam, it's all western funded FUD.

nigga you what?
they walked off scotfree

both theists and atheists tend to take this shit too literally. everything is obviously metaphorical and allegorical. the point is to give a direction to life. that way individuals and the greater society might not wander off into total ruin.

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Yes
avoid anything Episcopalian( women pastors, gay is ok, etc.)
Avoid Mainstream Catholicism( starting to cave on social issues plus ((((Vatican II)))) )
Avoid UCC or Disciples of Christ
Generally avoid churches with 1,000 or more attendees
Other than that you have to go looking for yourself. Generally if you see 1st in the name go there.

>gf is catholic
>go for her cousin's communion
>ask why her parents do it
>"it's mandatory user"
>they actually basically fucking force them to
>get into church, it's all expensive as shit, fucking speakers and brand spanking new painted walls, modern as fuck, clearly rich
>priest walks around the seats with a donation thingy
>I don't want to give him shit
>gf is mortified says you HAVE to and nobody ever rejects
>pull out 50 cents
>she says its minimum 1 euro or everyone will hate your guts
>priest still looks at me dirty because I just give 1
>leave church
>"alright user, for next communion..."
>there's like 5 of those things
>all mandatory

Catholics are literally slaves

YOU'RE TAKING IT TOO LITERALLY GOY
IT'S TOTALLY FINE THAT WE KILLED YOUR ALLEGED SON OF GOD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL

Ok, avoid any european or asian style islam, avoid (((whabbism))) and stick to only the teachings of the quran, the 100% verified sunna and the teachings of Bukhari and Hannafi.

But user, how else would you repent for your (((original))) sin?

>literally same rhetoric as the one used to punish nazis for the holocaust
>to the fucking letter
>catholics push it as some sort of redpill

Hilarious

(((collection plate)))

OR

(((you being a stingy jew)))

and yet this board pushes christcuckery to the fucking max all day everyday

>god needs my sheckles in order to forgive that sin that I never fucking committed
>I need to wagecuck at mcdolans cause fucking adam couldn't resist a thot
ok

Except ISIS follows the Quran and Sunni tradition to the T. They have theological, scriptural, and traditional backing for everything that they do whereas these denominations that we are talking about just make stuff up and/or ignore scripture, theology, and tradition.

18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.…


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It's so the church can pay its expenses you fucking retard.

Why would someone decide not to be "degenerate" if there was no religion?

Why the everloving fuck would I give my hard-earned money to a church that can afford to re-paint its walls every time it feels like it, has better speakers than I do at home and is clearly very rich?

I'm Orthodox, my local church couldn't afford a bench and the priest hand-crafted one over the course of several months. Fuck some random church, if I'm giving money I'll give it to my local church.

find where in the quran you can kill your fellow muslims without a lengthy trial. I'll wait.
There's a 100% verified hadith of a woman that committed adultry and she had to beg the prophet for months to be stoned so that she could avoid hell.
I'm not debating theism, I'm talking about the shitty surrogate jew-written religion that Sup Forums shills all day.
Why can't the pastor just get a part time job?
My local church has classes that cost money, events that they profit from, they rent out the venue for weddings and such and it's expensive as fuck to hold your wedding there.
Why isn't that enough? They don't even pay fucking taxes ffs

Now you understand Protestants. Catholic Church has always spent it's money on lavish shit that they don't really need.

>Protestants
GOY REJECT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THEY'RE JUST AFTER YOUR MONEY
OK NOW GIB ME DONATIONS PLEASE

>My Church doesn't even have a building. Offering baskets are $ 3 wicker things. Can barely afford anything and often don't raise enough to meet the budget.
> only want my money

pick one

We must build a monument to Our Lord that will appease Him.

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You dumb fuck
They don't pay a single penny in any kind of taxes. AND they get all kinds of gibs. If your church is "poor" then it's all just going into the pastors pockets.

> too much brainlet to understand a metaphor

I thought toothpaste niggers are better than that

>BUT GOY WE HAVE NO MONEY I CAN'T EVEN AFFORD SHOES
*builds massive cathedral to live in and larp as the pope*

Find where in the Bible being a fag is ok and women can preach. Find where in the Bible shilling for Judaism is acceptable and worshiping Jews is allowed. Find where not trying to save people is ok. Find where there is no hell and everyone is fine.
ISIS might miss a thing or two but their basic theology and belief is well within Sunni convention.

Because a dude who I can't even verify that he existed followed a thot outside of heaven, I now to not only pay my state and city taxes like a good goy, I also need to pay 'donations" to my tax exempt church.
Not to mention you're now allowed to guilt trip me about muh original sin whenever the fuck you want.
Also, why did god wait so fucking long between adam and jesus to affirm this shit?
Why did moses not die for my sins, or Abraham?
Oh that's right, it's because they weren't murdered by the jewish cabal.

>i judge an entire religion based on a catholic priests inablility to explain the gospel.
what an intellectual giant you are.

>ISIS might miss a thing or two but their basic theology and belief is well within Sunni convention.
So is literally everything you listed you dumb fuck.
>love everyone
there, fags and jews are ok now.

>B-BUT THAt'S NOT REAL CHRISTIANITY THEY JUST CAN'T EXPLAIN THE GOSPEL RIGHT
Really nigga?

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I know where my pastor lives. It's not a nice place We don't get gibs from the government or any rich members. Most members are in college and others are lower middle class

>BUT MY PASTOR IS POOR THAT MEANS ITS OK FOR THE WHOLE RELIGION TO JUST BE A FUCKING MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME

your straw mans are terrible. go take another rhetoric class.

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That's such a pathetic fucking argument.
that's not >muh real religion faggots need to be gassed.
fuck off with your shitty memeflag too, just don't forget to pass by the donation box on the way out.

>Nowadays
Implying

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ITT: unhinged god-hater finally loses it.

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ok so ISIS isn't real islam because they don't follow my interpretation of islam.
You can't follow the logic in your post without dismissing my statement.

nigger I pray to god every day, just not based on shitty jewish lies

Do you just expect churches to conjure money out of thin air to pay for upkeep, improvements, social programs, Sunday school, church events, etc. Do you live in a world where you don't need money to make things happen?

those who call Christianity a jewish religion have a fundamental misunderstanding of jewish history, the talmud, and the jews in general.

Literally all the social programs and events need a fee to be entered, and they don't pay a single fucking DIME in taxes.
There's no reason to shill for donations as much as they do, while at the same time guilting you to cough up the cash because of some bullshit original sin

Fake as shit lol

No, it's a jewish religion because not a single one of your leaders will admit who killed jesus.
the new testament is literally fucking propaganda too.

Neo-pagans fool themselves by seeing in the old European religions some sort of Aryan Judaism, closed spiritualities with an ethnic base. In reality, the religion of the ancients was plastic and open to foreign cults (and conversely open to export). If the Vikings had conquered non-white territories, they would have happily mixed with the locals as the Romans and the Greeks could have done (despite their landed xenophobia).

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the original sin is being born into this world. it has to therefore presuppose some existence in a world outside of this and some choice or action on your part to be born into it

>I wasn't born with no fucking sin.
It's funny because you admit that you were born with sin.

assuming you are a typical Sunni Muslim then no I can't dismiss that. There will always be differences of interpretation between legitimate groups but take Sufism that believes in a mystic and Gnostic form of Islam that only nominally draws from the Quran and they base their beliefs on the words of men like Hassan-i Sabbah and older Ashurist traditions that DIRECTLY CONTRADICT MAJOR THEOLOGICAL POINTS in the Quran over and over.

did you misread my posts or are you just retarded?

the jews killed jesus, and his execution was carried out by the romans. is that a sufficient answer?

Can't speak for anyone else but never been to a church function with a fee

Pastor Anderson made a whole documentary about kikery. Many Christian leaders say that the kikes killed Jesus. Unfortunately you are right many Christians have been duped into supporting Israel and thinking that the Jews we have now are the same as the ones in the OT

Winrar

There's nobody more cucked than an atheist. Liberalism gave rise to Atheism. Atheism gave rise to degeneracy. Degeneracy gave rise to racemixing, feminism, LGBTQ, etc. No more (((tolerance))) from these people.

The Romans destroyed both Jewish Kingdoms, then after relentless rebellion der Juden were expelled en mass.

>>god is benevolent
>god creates man predestined to be tainted with sin

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forced to wander and be hated by everyone

Man made his own choices. God did not make us to sin he made us to think and make choices which means that unfortunately we made the wrong one.

Do you know what a dpunle negative is? I don't have no sin = I do have sin. Basic grammar.

But I'm the retard...

Same shit, less about the money. The slavery of the catholic church, how it literally forces you to worship or die is worst and protestnatism has a similar sheep mentality.

Double negative

the basis of original sin is that jehovah is the creator of this world. he created man in his image and "blew his spirit" into them. the purpose of man was for jehovah to have a material form which he could love and could worship him in return.

jehovah "created them male and female" at first but later man desired a "helpmate" and jehovah separated the female aspect from the male aspect by removing the woman from the man, "adams rib".

Jehovah knew there was a potential problem with this and warned man against "the fruit of the tree of knowledge"

the original sin was when "angels" or some other form of principalities began miscegenating with women. placing their spirit into women in the same way that jehovah would and thus corrupting man from his original purpose.

Jehovah obviously hated this because he tried to wipe all humans out with the flood, but had mercy on Noah, who was apparently a pure bloodline.

>gf
>everything is mandatory
cool LARP user, but you don't have a girlfriend and you never went to a catholic church

I've been to Al-Azhar, and I've spoken with a lot of sheihks through out my life.
Here's the thing, in islam there's a concept of staying true to the relgion, the hadith is something like
>prophet draws a line in the ground, with branches coming out of it
>anyone who strays from my original line is not true, and in the future many will stray
obviously garbage translation but you can look it up for yourself.
According to one of the top people at al azhar
>shiites are bs
>sufis are bs
>whabbies are bs
>just follow the quaran and the verified hadith, everything else is bs.
He also had no problem naming the jew when it came to jesus.
Also, in islam if you die as an infant you go to heaven automagically, there's no original sin garbage and the only reason to give zikah/donations is to help your fellow muslim in a time of hardship. The proof of this is that zikah can be given to a family member, even a sibling, parent or child. Nothing forces you to give money to your mosque because muh jesus died for me.


Also off topic but it's ironic how much more respect Islam has for jesus than christcucks do.
You're not allowed to portray jesus in anyway (just like mohamed, moses, abraham etc)
You can't slander him or make fun of him or his message
And in islam no shitty kike tricks killed jesus, god face swapped him with judas the jew and jesus is waiting to fight the anti christ.
Also jesus isn't the son of god, it doesn't fucking make sense to attribute a mortal concept like reproducing to a god.
and finally even judas was forgiven and conically goes to heaven in islam because the torture was so bad and he repented on the cross.

cuckstianity: guilty until proven innocent and death is all that matters.

OP i think there is some sort of book or something that tells the story of Jesus, well that's what I've heard anyway

Kek can't tell if bait

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Angels don't have free will and therefore don't and can't have sex
All the fucking garbage you just spewed is bullshit.
Again, just because adam followed a thot doesn't mean I have a fucking sin that I was born with.

You know what he meant. I don't think original sin is fair play either.

>Angels don't have free will and therefore don't and can't have sex
6And the angels who did not stay within their own domain, but abandoned their proper dwelling, He keeps under darkness, in eternal chains for judgment on that great day. 7

oh I don't give a single fuck what your shitty jew written book has to say on the matter
humans and devils have free will, angels don't and exist only to serve god.
fuck off with your fanfic

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>Again, just because adam followed a thot doesn't mean I have a fucking sin that I was born with.

only if your accept the original premise that jehovah is the creator of the world. this is just explaining why sin and suffering exist based on that premise. no one is forcing you to accept the premise, but wondering why you are so butthurt about it

If you want to talk shit about it you should take the time to actually look into it a bit
Otherwise you're just going to sound like an angsty fedoratipping teenager

Surely God being omniscent would know that his manner of making Adam would end up tainting all of mankind spiritually.

>shiites are bs
t. wahhabist nigger

>>Jehovah obviously hated this because he tried to wipe all humans out with the flood, but had mercy on Noah, who was apparently a pure bloodline.
wait, you're telling that G O D, you know, the guy that created the entire universe, couldn't just wipe out the whole planet if he wanted to?
And what the fuck did noah do that I didn't, so that he's the one without the sin and I have it?

>oh I don't give a single fuck what your shitty jew written book has to say on the matter
>humans and devils have free will, angels don't and exist only to serve god.
>fuck off with your fanfic
I never said you have to believe it. I was just telling you what it says.
why would you be so butthurt about it though?

he writes like an angry 15 year old

Exactly my point just like the guy at Al-Azhar who says that forms of Islam that deviate from the main thing like the tree metaphor are bs. We can call out forms of Christianity that deviate from scripture and try to corrupt it bs and not truly Christian.

I will agree with Islamic respect which is something we need more of in the Christian world. We don't believe that kike tricks fooled Jesus we believe that He willingly died for us to forgive sins. He could have saved Himself easily. Even in Islam you have the virgin birth which we have also so no reproduction. God needed a body so he used a woman to grow one. The trinity means that Jesus is God so essentially God fit Himself into a human body in order to save us and experience what it was like to be us. Which is why we consider it such a miracle because He didn't have to do that. Judas hangs himself and goes to hell forever for us.

Everyone is born with sin because no human is or ever has been 100% good in their life. You've done something wrong at some point.

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Are you a nigger? You sound like a nigger.
The Koran commands terror, meanwhile there is no doctrine that justifies the weakness and passivity of the modern church.
Nice false equivalence fallacy, nigger.

I just follow the book my man
pray as much as a I can, fast, I plan on doing the pilgrimage when I get the cash, I don't steal unless god counts pirated games, and I don't plan on having extramarital sex. I'm not required to give zikah yet but when I do plan on doing it.
I just like saying fuck a lot, doesn't mean I'm mad user.
I'm more annoyed that pol keeps pushing christianity as a solution when it's part of the problem
In regards to the virgin birth, it happened because god wanted it. He's omnipotent after all and doesn't need to justify what he wants.
Jesus is not the son of god, and god does not need to reproduce.
What I'm trying to say is that unlike islam, where the top imam in the most respect islamic institution globally has absolutely no problem naming the jew or telling isis to fuck off, his catholic and protestant counterparts can't/refuse to do the same.
They'd rather retcon the book than name the jew.

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>wait, you're telling that G O D, you know, the guy that created the entire universe, couldn't just wipe out the whole planet if he wanted to?
>And what the fuck did noah do that I didn't, so that he's the one without the sin and I have it?
jehovah was originally conceived of as a (g)od. of immense but unlimited power. the logical masturbation about God being able to make a rock that was so heavy even he could lift, came alot later when medieval christian philosophers tried to square the jewish scriptures with platonism.

in the original conception jehovah is simply the creator. there are other (g)ods, angels, principalities, potentates, whatever. God speaks to them "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

At least the muslims stuck with the original Koran, even if people think it's backwards, compared to the many (((Editions))) of the bible and the (((NT))). When people start editing your holy book, it's already pozzed as fuck.

Yes but He did it anyway because the goal was to have a reflection of Himself to tend the world and manage creation. Even though man makes mistake after mistake God keeps trying because He is good and just and never gives up. We need Jesus because only God could be a worthy enough sacrifice to take all of our sins, free us from death, reddem us, and bring us back to our original purpose.

Yet we have these threads and pagan generals. I can’t think of the last time we’ve had a Christian or catholic general this past week. Besides, there’s a difference between Christians convening and pushing Christianity.
No one is pushing it.
But they should be.
I’ll see on a pike burned for heresy.

>Everyone is born with sin because no human is or ever has been 100% good in their life. You've done something wrong at some point.
not (you) personally, but man as a race, but since you have to be materially born of a woman you inhereit that sin

>I'm more annoyed that pol keeps pushing christianity as a solution when it's part of the problem
islam is based on the jewish scriptures also