What is the worst anime character stereotype and why is it the classical beta harem MC?

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It's only the worst because he's a blank slate character because everyone who self-inserts has unremarkable lives

"Beta MCs" are a non-issue that only retards complain about.
The shows these guys come from are so bad to begin with that changing the protagonist wouldn't improve anything. Even with an "alpha" protag low-effort haremshit would still be bad.

you don't need to project so hard, user.

They're gays too.

This

I think beta male mc's are really useful in quickly determining whether to drop the anime early or not.

Yeah

>beta
RIto maybe but other two just aren't interested in other girls.

Otaku watch harem for the girls. The main characters are necessary for the fantasy but are made for the audience to want to identify with, not "self-insert" as. They're not blank slates; those are three distinct characters even if you don't like them. Westerners "self-insert", which is why they care so much about what the guy is like in a some trashy masturbatory fantasy.

This kills most anime for me, the "average" character does the opposite effect and prevents me from getting into it.

But they're so cute

I would argue the MC is not a problem.
Its the women around him that enable him to be like that.
Fuck all imoutos who love their big brother. Tsunderes who like MC because he helped them that one time. Alien whores who just want human dick. And all those bitches.

What kind of drugs did you take?

But they're, like, what an average person would look like without junk food, piercings and drugs.

>Fujimaru
>Beta
Try again faggot

None, you junkie. Wise up.

They're not the worse. They're the "underdog" archetype and everyone loves a comeback kid.

araragi is pretty alpha for a harem MC

>fanart bases on otaku fanwank/fanfiction/headcanon
Meh, go back to /fgog/

>Gudao
>Casually walks through the hell that is Babylon
>Punches a Beast in the face
>God tier as a master when it comes to servant management, many of which are murderous evil people
>beta

Shaft MCs are the only ones I can tolerat besides Emiya.

At least it reflects your typical Japanese male anime watcher appropriately. Those kinds of shows are after all aimed at a certain demographic and making the character relocatable to them makes it easier to self-insert and so raises its appeal to them . This in turn also potentially means more sales and and financial returns from the show.

I really don't get why Western dorks get so uppity and outraged about a character or medium which was never intended to appeal or be marketed to them in the first place.

In a sense we can describe people like OP as being amongst the worst types of anime fans.

You just woke my mind dood!

It's not. The rapey shoujo love interest, super-alpha self-insert MC, and knife-licking edgelord are all worse.

It's because of shit like this why Japan's birth rate is declining.

>fanart
This is from official f/go manga and he's canonically a faggot.

Rather a milquetoast MC than a shitty main girl the author forces upon you.

>hes this retarded

It's a cultural difference between Japan and the west. Japanese ppl are not "nice" so a character who is is considered cute and interesting.

Makes sense.

That's just pure bullshit. Try talking with an average american if you want to dispel this myth.

I never thought I would say/write this in my life, but Rito looks a lot like a Alpha MC when compared with the other two betafags.

Any pic of terrible harem MCs is incomplete if it doesn't have "huh, what did you say" Haganai-man on it.

>It's a cultural difference between Japan and the west. Japanese ppl are not "nice" so a character who is is considered cute and interesting.

They are characters that women will never understand.

Araragi is beta as fuck. He's a cheeky sub who tests out his territory but gets immediately bullied into submission by the girls like a little bitch. Perfect self-insert character for losers who think they're charming because they bantered with a girl once (who probably thought it was creepy).

>Rather a milquetoast MC than a shitty main girl the author forces upon you.
This a million times.

Any kind of romance is immediately garbage when worst girl is set to win.

This.

All of them are bad. It's not a specific stereotype that's at fault. It's that they are just boring people, most often brainless moralfags. Adding to that there is 0 character development in these shows and MCs remain the same through the show.
All conflict in these shows is artificial at best and you know mc is gonna win because it's part of power fantasy. There are no occasions for mc to develop and grow up.
These shows are shit and characters in these shows are shit. but harems are in general a shit "genre" and we all know what were getting into before watching one, so whatever.
I guess they're made to make losers self insert into that lucky guy. Though if MC is not stinky fat otaku they're not doing job hard anough.

Should Gudao really be included? He's literally a player character meant for you to project your shit upon. He ain't even a ~character~ in the same sense that Shirou is.

Limiting the romantic choices of a character in linear, passive media makes sense. Limiting the romantic choices in a game (unless the limitations are a part of the game) is bad design.

are these guys that fundamentally different than the photocopied gun dudes who fill most western games, though?

It's just a different kind of lowest common denominator fantasy. The former wants to fuck all the magical babes, the latter wants to shoot everybody

The issue is that if the focus of the show is romance, or it tries to sell the romance of multiple competing girls with the one target, then the show must make watchable and steaming chemistry between the leads.
They then make the MC a cardboard cutout of a person, and then throw a poor girl or twelve to try bounce off that for a cour.
It's not interesting, there are no cute or genuinely romantic moments, just a POV of a girl trying a failing to ask the audience surrogate out for a season until an unclear end.

He is just another wicked sense of humor guy for the "upper" harem tasting buds. Is the same shit at the end of it.

Brb, I got to drink myself to death after this post.

Now that's Crab as fuck, Crab.

if FGO receives an anime, Gudau will have the same personality that we saw in the OVA that is basically the same Ichika personality from Infinite Stratos.

This.

Just because the artist payed by typemoon to draw that, it doesn't mean that it was canon.

>bitches out when girl unbares her breasts right infront of him awaiting fondling
>alpha

heh

Tsundere. Harem MCs are mostly harmless at least.

Why are there so many spics on Sup Forums?

Rito is the worst mc ever existed
>Always with his stupid falls for an illness of the space and their overreactions as a fag
>He keep in love by the worst girl and considering the "feelings" of those sluts of lala, run, yami and momo
>No balls
>Stupidly naive in continuing trust in momo, when she clearly wants to change him to accept the damn harem plan
(Superficial shit)

This piece of shit is the worst.

Why do people even like Touma?

I would love to see an anime about a gay MC who pretty much lives a life like Riko, Girls and all.

underrated

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Oh nice, There is one.
Thanks user, I'll give it a read. Looks like it may be funny.

We need more jock MCs.

Girls in Japan like gentlemen since nip men are considered to be assholes. Here in the USA, we focus more on the "nice guys finish last" rule.

Fucking tsundere, no question about it.

Only super betas get mad about these characters, though. They watch anime for the escapist fantasy so watching a guy who is just as inept and virginal as themselves constantly ruin easy opprunities to get laid just enrages them.

>I really don't get why Western dorks get so uppity and outraged
More like we are just tired of such a stupid trope.

>hur, it wasn`t made for you
So because Twilight wasn`t made for me I can`t talk shit about it? What a stupid logic.

you are right

ain't nearly as bad as Asian women so I guess this is truth in television.

Still autistic to care about tropes in a genre you don't care about

And you're just mad you can't even nail a megavirgin, crab.

Can someone this crab meme comes from? I've been seeing it a lot suddenly

I like romance. I like love triangles when done right. Most harem are just stupid.

You hate it because you hate yourself

>More like we are just tired of such a stupid trope
Don't understand what you faggots are even complaining about, you don't even get that type of MCs anymore but instead you have alpha ones you love so much.
No in fact those types of MC are rarely seen nowadays especially when it comes to WNs or there are stories where that type of beta MC turns into this edgemeister(arifureta) or Bane of SJWs(Shieldbro)

Not to mention academy harems are done for. Most of the harems are isekai harems from syosetsuka ni narou and narou crowd absolutely loves alpha/edgy/overpowered MCs: See Nidome no Yuusha, that psycho healer guy(forgot the name), Oroboros Records and so on.

>you don't even get that type of MCs anymore
Wasn`t that Saekano like that? I didn`t watch it.

>you have alpha ones you love so much.
Says who? I dislike all the ones mentioned by the other Sup Forumsnon
>Not to mention academy harems are done for.
I hope you are right.

I don't need an Alpha Male MC.

I just don't like the "WOAAAAH OH MY GOD BOOBIES?!" gag for the upteenth time.

The shows are softcore pornography.

Critiquing them is just woefully stupid.

>Anime MCs were originally flaky do-gooders whose most prominent trait was being nice
>Now, Anime MCs, such as isekai harems, are edgy alphas

When getting my nose in a book
Cured most things short of school,
It was worth ruining my eyes
To know I could still keep cool,
And deal out the old right hook
To dirty dogs twice my size.

Later, with inch-thick specs,
Evil was just my lark:
Me and my cloak and fangs
Had ripping times in the dark.
The women I clubbed with sex!
I broke them up like meringues.

Don't read much now: the dude
Who lets the girl down before
The hero arrives, the chap
Who's yellow and keeps the store
Seem far too familiar. Get stewed:
Books are a load of crap.
- Phillip Larkin, A Study of Reading Habits

>So because Twilight wasn`t made for me I can`t talk shit about it?
Why would you even talk about it? Why would you give a shit about Twilight if you're not a teenage girl, let alone read/watch it?

Let me rephrase that. Let`s say it is the beginning of a season. You are bored and you watch a show. You dislike it. But you can`t criticize it because it wasn`t made with you in mind. Is that how it works?

because he punches bitches and whores and they fall in love with him.

dude's a budding pimp.

This. Jap otaku want to feel loved by 2d girls for who they are. Weebs on Sup Forums hate themselves and hate being reminded of who they are, so want to see/be someone not like them.

It's like when NTRfags lie to themselves that they're meant to be the bull because they want to dissociate themselves from the cuck they know they identify with more.

Just generic circlejerk memes from the awful gatari generals.

You can criticize it but it's a waste of time if you know it's shit pandering to teenage girls, and you ought to find better things to do than continually consuming and regurgitating it.

This

it' not. The joke they love repeating is that he avoids all those wacky situations but does most of those things with the guy he likes. All that changes is that he gets cockblocked by some other haremette.

It's not even that refreshing. You could find the same dude in a yaoi manga probably.

>The main characters are necessary for the fantasy but are made for the audience to want to identify with, not "self-insert" as.

THAT'S THE SAME THING

Stories have to be relatable.

But at the same time, like I think the problem people have is that there's no hint of personal development.

It's why people like Fight Club, the MC is a loser by Tyler helps him (At least at first) break out of his shell and tell people to get fucked.

Tl;dr betas want to imagine a kind of metamorphosis, they're unsatisfied when it doesn't happen.

This.

That's why we don't hate the beta protagonists who actually develop a bit like Keitaro.

It hardly matters though.

The Harem genre is softcore porn.

If this complaint was about some other genre it'd be valid, but lets be honest, nobody is watching any of the above anime for a personal journey.

it's old news but with Negima it turns out that gag has a different effect when the character is literally a child. Not to mention he's better than most shonen protags anyways.

The first guy just woke up in lap of a stranger. You'd be spooked to if the first thing you see are eyes staring at you.

I DON'T WANT FATE/EXTRA WITH MALE MC
I WANTED FATE/EXTRA ANIME WITH FEMALE MC I CAN'T BARE THIS ANYMORE.

Oh?

No.

The hero we didn't deserve.

>tells Cu to back off from his girl
Why do they think he's beta again?

Needed the kek.

shhh

/thread

Has the artist of that comic also made the 'who put the bomp' chihaya vid? The art looks similar

Of course, nobody denies that the women depicted in these shows are incredibly unrealistic