It seems that Sup Forums doesn't really have a coherent plan as to how we actually achieve our goals, other than sitting around shitposting until someone establishing an ethnostate for us. What exactly is the mode of action? We do campaigns like "it's okay to be white" and fuck with shia lafaggot. And this is good and effective, but ultimately pointless.
How do we go from where we are right now, to an ethnostate? How do we go about increasing our ranks? How do we go about spreading our message? How do we get /ourguys/ elected into public office? Things don't seem to progressing. The only ground we have gained is ground willfully given up by leftists due to their own failings and overconfidence. If the left was so blatantly retarded we wouldn't have had 2016. And we can't bank on leftist retardation to accidentally an ethnostate. Our memes are starting to get a bit stale (other boards find Sup Forums memes and Hitler iconography cringy). And sense charrlottsville our growth has been stunted.
We need a more cohesive and organized approach to this. We need to get stuff done and actually think about putting our ideas on paper and policy and brainstorm optics and growth tactics. Also avoid e-celeb leaders who can be character assassinated and thus tarnish the movement with their degeneracy.
March For Our Lives is a recruiting operation for Antifa.
Kids were being distributed anti-white, anti-cop propaganda at the event. The deep state is now trying to swell its Alt-Left paramilitary group ranks with underage kids. SPREAD THIS INFO EVERYWHERE.
>What this means: THE DEEP STATE IS TRYING TO GET KIDS TO MURDER WHITE PEOPLE AND POLITICAL DISSIDENTS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
Also for clarification, I'm not suggesting or asking for some sargon esk "Fascistist" style organization of policing.
Jason Williams
Kill your self data mining kike shill
Cameron Hughes
I'll give you a bump because no one dares answer these crucial questions. Everybody loves complaining about the kikes control of everything and yet they provide no meaningful plan to get rid of them. Like a person with lice refusing to use a lice comb. This place sickens me I'm so glad I don't come here anymore.
Jerk off online and post Jew conspiracies and watch old MDE world peace episodes remembering the glory days of the 2016 meme war.
Jackson Davis
there is no plan. Sup Forums is satire.
Logan Nelson
>our goals >an ethnostate for us >ethnostate >ethnostate >repeat ad nauseum
You're talking about a subset of Sup Forums to begin with. It's unrealistic and you'll get nothing for your trouble. Immigration restriction and smacking business in the bum (offshoring work and bringing in coolie labor simultaneously) is an imperative.
You start by offering people solutions to their actual problems. Then they might listen to your more radical ideas. Right now you're offering nothing but fantasy, which will only attract weirdos and fringe dwellers, like those trailer park people that all just went to gaol.
The point of the outrageous trolling was to make the other side go completely feral and show their real colors. Mission successful.
Posting photoshopped images of Emma seems to work really well, actually.
Charles Collins
OP you are a faggot, anyone with a brain here knows we're fucked no matter hat we do. no one cares we're just here to have a little fun before the world ends. for those retards who actually think there's a way out, their plan seems to solely be to "redpill normies." what this accomplishes is beyond me. maybe they think they can just convince someone else to fix this shit for them? the bottom line is that no one either cares enough to try and fix anything, or they don't have the balls to do it themselves.
we already lost the fight before we were even born
Passivism (look it up) combined with INTELLIGENT activism. Build networks with you and your friends around core issues everyone can relate to (e.g. being pro-masculinity, not hating yourself for being white). Change the culture and then move forward with electoral politics, especially in local areas.
i think pol is more an educational resource and a news aggrigator. people here want similar things but theres no organization beyond social media hi-jinks. sorry pal, the brotherhood is a meme just like in 1984. there is no real resistance. its all a spook.
Jeremiah Turner
though if you want to understand some of the hot topics of the age, you came to the right place. you decide what you do regarding your life.
Something that fucks us over immensely is how spread out we all are - literally millions of conservatives are trapped in California where their votes will NEVER count. Meanwhile, there are states that would be red but for a few thousand more conservative voters.
We need to understand the importance of location. Right now, the most important thing would be to move virtually anywhere else if you live in California. Texas and Florida are very similar in climate and business opportunity and are both red states.
Jaxson Rogers
>It seems that Sup Forums doesn't really have a coherent plan You're glowing in the dark again.
>why are retarded fucks still here? Probably has something to do with them thinking that a certain president is on their side.
Brody Sullivan
>Don't vote, you'll never win anyway!
Defeatism. The real solution isn't voting though, it's cultural change. "Civil war" is a pipe dream. It's also being pushed by feds who want to see us arrested and demonized.
The solution is the same as the problem: power. Power needs to be transferred from kikes to Christian whites. Which means a world war. Third time's the charm.
They have a stranglehold on the military and police, too.
No successful revolution has EVER taken place without massive cultural influence FIRST. Even unsuccessful revolutions (see: The Civil War, ISIS) had tremendous cultural and political power before conflict broke out.
If you honestly believe you can conduct some revolt without cultural support on your side, I feel sorry for you.
Xavier Torres
The greatest think each of us can do is create a peace of art. We do this with memes but why not with greater forms of art work?
Jace Russell
>No successful revolution has EVER taken place without massive cultural influence FIRST. Even unsuccessful revolutions (see: The Civil War, ISIS) had tremendous cultural and political power before conflict broke out. Check out the NWF. Read the northwest homeland novels. Listen to the recommended listening list.
Your questions and concerns will be answered.
Brandon Bennett
I feel like what we need to do now is boot the national socialists out of the alt-right. They're single-handedly responsible for us losing all the momentum that we had following the election of Trump. With them out of the way, we can work on reshaping the republican party.
David Murphy
>How do we go from where we are right now, to an ethnostate? 1. That's not my endgoal, and it's not necessarily Sup Forums's endgoal; my goal is to promote nobility of spirit and character 2. It's achieved by creating groups of people that supplant the current system by working around it; that is how a functioning independent state forms. Start out with a (ideally) self-sufficient community with a message that can be applied to other areas and get more people to create their own ideologically aligned communities, then either fight a war/attempt to separate in some way with your other communities. >How do we go about increasing our ranks? create the alternative >How do we go about spreading our message? new ideologies/groups only appeal to autists/radicals at the beginning anyway, normies go to successful groups, or groups that have something to offer them, a radical will give their life for the cause from the outset. >How do we get /ourguys/ elected into public office? I fundamentally disagree with democracy as it functions in the US, as it has devolved into a plutocracy, and anyone fighting to help people will have such a miniscule impact that with enough money they'll easily be voted out later. >Things don't seem to progressing. You stopped being funny when Trump got into power and he became Obama 2.0 who was just Bush 2.0 who was just...; either stay attached to Trump or stay attached to something bigger, I suggest lulz, but another value/cause would be fine too I guess. there's other places people go to organize already; discord is the biggest I've been using
No "world war" is going to magically spring up. Read that article I posted.
Ian Jackson
>I feel like what we need to do now is boot the national socialists out of the alt-right. Thus proving once again that the alt-right is not pro-White.
>They're single-handedly responsible for us losing all the momentum that we had following the election of Trump. Trump is a Zionist, is not pro-White and does not care about saving the White race.
>With them out of the way, we can work on reshaping the republican party. The Jews own the Republican party and will not give it up.
Even then, they feature whites migrating to the Pacific Northwest FIRST, all the while participating in a mass cultural movement. Not "whites have no identity and hate themselves" to "wtf civil war" in two steps.
Under the NWF plan, civil war wouldn't even be necessary.
Joseph James
then you have no way of removing kikes from power. God help us if you're right faggot
Matthew Nelson
When Trump declares martial law we must orginize to to enact the ORIGINAL constitution when it’s over. This way we can naturally segregate ourselves, within about 10 years we can then divvy up the land based on how much the niggers would've gotten if they had been considered a whole person and noth 3/5ths during the Homestead Act of 1862. This may sound like a good deal for them and they will likely take it but it is not, the number of slaves at the time were less than 1% of the population. We then declare the land they have congregated in the highest numbers and let them keep it and do with it as they please (enter the great chipout)
the plan is simple, we red pill as many as we can and wait for the happening. how will the happening occur? when the massive population of red pilled people will be pushed too far, voting doesnt help and electing wont help
Logan Lee
>These are fiction books... Yes...they serve as an FAQ to the NWF, the NVA and the NAR.
>Even then, they feature whites migrating to the Pacific Northwest FIRST, You kinda gotta be there before doing anything.
>Not "whites have no identity and hate themselves" to "wtf civil war" in two steps. Again, read the books, listen to the recommended listening list and check out the NWF.
>Under the NWF plan, civil war wouldn't even be necessary. Except for the fact that ZOG will never allow the White race to survive and thrive.
Whites need a White-only country in order to survive. Whites can't get that via voting.
Kevin Hughes
Yep, we'll tattoo ourselves with our purity number so we know who we can bread with.
Jackson Williams
The alt-right brand is basically dead, there is no point in doing that.
Open NatSocs should not be participating in "alt-right" brand rallies anyways. They should be holding their own. People who openly wear swastikas and the more optics-focused "It's Okay To Be White" crowd are simply not compatible.
The only people who need to be driven out of the movement at all costs are criminal terrorist-types. These are mostly feds or the mentally ill and they want to destroy us.
People who demand that everyone must dress up as a historic enemy of the United States from 70 years ago are not pro-White.
agreed, we need to subvert - but how do we maintain continuity and participation?
John Cook
>People who demand that everyone must dress up as a historic enemy of the United States from 70 years ago are not pro-White. The ONLY group that advocates that is the NSM. And they're part of the problem because that's all they do. TWP doesn't exist anymore because the idiot leader couldn't live up to actually acting like a stand-up White man.
>See pic related. Weev is a kike that doesn't actually advocate for doing anything (other than voting for Zionist Republicans)
Asher Bennett
Spread the word it's been decided. Whites are starting our own version of Zionism.
HITLER wanted to peacefully send the Jews to Madagascar. To honour that spirit, whites as a collective will be pooling resources in order to purchase either the island of Madagascar or a large swath of mineral & farm rich land in Africa.
As our new Atlantis is in its infancy, every male will be required to work farming/construction/fishing with his AK-47 slung over on his back. Even though we will have bought the land fair & square we must be prepared to fight for our property & the laws we have instituted.
Whites only. No lefties. No degeneracy.
Spread the word that you were on Sup Forums when whites started Atlantianism.
Ayden Butler
This is a good post, I agree with it.
Are there any Discord servers you'd recommend?
Read the fucking article.
Okay, as long as we agree that migration is the important action to take, and that only cultural change can push migration.
Tyler Morgan
we wait for the lawless to rise up and then crush them from higher moral and literal ground in the civil war battle royale to come as we become surrounded with false idols and beasts of men who nature would have genocided in a different decade when Gods law and not godless satanists is the role models of society.
Evan Cook
remember, we were born in our uniforms.
Nolan Allen
>as a historic enemy of the United States from 70 years ago are not pro-White. The US is controlled by Jews you fucking retard. Everything the US stands for is pro-jewish.Jews hate whites. Hitler was pro white and anti Jewish and since he lost the Jews now make him out to be the most horrible person to have ever lived simply because he was pro white. Are you fucking retarded?
Luis Cox
>what's your plan Sup Forums? Mind your business, Shlomo.
Asher Howard
You give them too much credit user, Jews are not the pyramid, they are but it's mortar, they are but the conduit of what we fight.
Ayden Watson
>thinks an ethnostate is a realistic goal
you have to be over 18 to post here you little shit
Jacob Campbell
Nothing to contribute atm but I fully support the idea. Keep fighting.
Kayden Allen
The majority of the rest of the world live in ethno states.... explain how it's not realistic?
Kayden King
All we need to do is run counter to the Jews politics, go after immigration reform, end dual-citizenship, these things will get us better results than clamoring for an ethnostate.
I agree with what you said, but can you really call the altright dead when the leftists still talk about it every day as if it were the boogeyman?
Robert Myers
What do you mean by that?
I think we actually agree then. I don't even think NSM and TWP were that bad (although Heimbach's scandal, if factual, was obviously a shitty thing to do).
I just can't stand the retards who photobomb rallies with roman salutes or swastikas - they immediately turn off anyone who might have been receptive to the message otherwise.
Landon Martin
Argentina is right and more white than you burgerland
Zachary Sanders
you're not "stunted" you are already dead becasue you betrayed me
you fucking retard
William Howard
You have a ticking clock, will be a minority by 2050...be crying for an ethno state then...tick-tock, tick-tock
Chase Nelson
It's not pro-White because not only does it not accomplish anything, typically it actively hurts our cause.
Just because you want to do something does not mean it is what will actually work.
Adrian Anderson
The ethnostate is never going to happen. And white nationalists only hurt the nationalist movement. The focus should instead be on teaching people that multiculturalism is bad and stopping immigration. The right tries to do this and white nationalists have to come in and fuck everything up by making the right look like a bunch of crazies.
Lucas Hall
honestly all this defeatism will pass. when people wake up to the possibilities we will all be fine.
Chase Rodriguez
Paul Nehlan for example proved this point, we can't be overt, we were able to rear our head during 2016 and increase our numbers, but we can't go around calling people likes in public. We now have the numbers, we just need to get into key positions.
Dominic Lopez
we're not the planners dipshit, we worship a frog god of chaos know your role
Carson Flores
thats the damage control inside element. just act like they dont exist. they dont speak for you. only you speak for you.
Camden Kelly
Hang on, why can't whites do exactly what Jews do, promote their ethno state while promoting the US?
Jews have America/Israel. Why can't whites have America/Atlantis?
The alt-right brand is dead - meaning, barring extraordinary circumstances, we can no longer describe ourselves as "alt-right" in a positive way. It's almost like self-describing as a "racist". It's become a pejorative. The alt-right movement, however, still exists.
I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about ethnostates as long as it's done in a smart and optics-conscious fashion.
I was basically redpilled by the simple statement "Asia for Asians; Africa for Africans; White Countries for EVERYBODY?" And yet to date, I have never seen that statement or anything like it publically exhibited at a rally or a speech.
Nathan Sanders
People on here talk hot shit bout beating the Jews, nobody ever thinks to Jew the Jews by using their modus operandi to get what we want
Camden Anderson
>freeing the white race from jewry hurts the white race hahahahahahahahaha
Tyler Diaz
Look at the reality. 60% of politicians have to support an ethnostate for it to happen. 56% of Americans are white. There is no reality where the ethnostate happens. We need to red pill people on (((who))) controls us, but you can't do it if you look like a crazy person.
Michael Lewis
The pure embodiment of soy
Owen Ramirez
You fuckin pleb read the posts I've proposed using the Jewish concept of Jewish interest group ie Zionism as our own, Atlantianism.
A white interest group looking to legally purchase land to peacefully form a Aryan ethno state!
Jason Davis
See this post, I think you'd like it:
Landon Phillips
Ah here read my posts!!
We can legally purchase land!!
Christopher Campbell
Publicly dressing up in WWII uniforms and going out on a goon march does not help anybody or wake anyone up. And if it goes wrong, it harms us.
Robert Moore
Wait, you want to form your own ethnostate? Why don't you just move to Maine or New Hampshire. They're already white ethnostates.
Kayden Cox
idk blame the jews as usual make some memes. sperg out a bit. same as we always do.
Adam Bailey
the plan is whatever i say it is whenever i say it is the plan is foe me to know and for you to not find out until it is completed the plan right now is for you to fuck off CIA nigger with your honeypotting attempts
Joshua Butler
Get oligarchs to support us and then swarm the government with a big crowd of people. It worked in Ukraine.
Brody Wright
Perhaps you guys are right. But it seems like most people in this thread agree we need to get away from larpers/goons/unironic natsoc types, and this is one of the things I've been pushing for. What do you guys think of simply continuing what we were doing while blending in with mainstream Republicans as a way to move forward?
Adrian Powell
Funny fucker aren't you? See how fuckin funny you are in 2050 when YOU'RE THE MINORITY surrounded by blacks, browns & Muslims who the left have brainwashed into hating anything with white skin!
The Jews in America will be able to fuck off to Israel if things ever get real...tell me, where can you go?
Aiden Long
im bibi Netanyahu,
im here to tell you thank you. thank you for being such inept white supremists. i basically have my hand so far up trump superior white asshole.. i am your puppeteer loser beta cromag-aryans
this. Sup Forums is performance art, granted the best there is
Blake Brown
people ask questions when they see or read things. such as: "Why would people be so pro Hitler and Nazi Germany if Hitler is so evil and bad?" "Why is the side who loses the war always painted as the bad side?" and so on and so on. Only open minded people can be fed the truth the rest are not needed for the movement to thrive. If you can eloquently promote your ideology, there's nothing that can stop you. And no one is demanding you wear Nazi uniforms stop it with the ab absurdo
Mason Diaz
Sup Forums is not a hivemind. You come here to shitpost and present/argue whatever it is that's on your mind. If you want to form a cohesive movement/dedicated think-tank for enacting change, then you can start a dedicated thread-pasta the way there is one for Self-Improvement, British politics, Italian politics and Kraut/pol/AfD among others where everyone that is actually interested in making a difference beyond just LARPing/redpilling themselves can gather and bounce ideas around.
You can think of a catchy title, make a "creed" of Sup Forums beliefs and encourage discussion and serious thinking about how to implement them.
Anthony Stewart
51% of the babies born in the U.S. in 2016 were non-Hispanic whites, which is the highest in a long time. If we build the wall and start deporting as many illegals as possible then white genocide isn't going to happen. An ethnostate is a pipe dream. And if you want to be in a place that's all-white, then just move to a state that's all white. Heck, Montana is pretty much all white except for the Indian reservations. And Indian reservations are basically ethnostates.
Ian Wright
>We do campaigns like "it's okay to be white" and fuck with shia lafaggot. And this is good and effective, but ultimately pointless.
That is because they are short term movements just meant for entertainment, like you said they are pointless. The truth is the Jews have already won. They are slowly normalizing anti-white anti-traditional degenerate culture but they are doing drop by drop so people don't even realize just how bad it is. Basically any movement we do start will be pointless, the best thing to do is just LARP, shitpost, and hope for WW3.
Thomas Jenkins
white genocide >stop knee igor-ing your self >white population is down bcuz egonomix
The wall! the wall! the wall! You're a fuckin fool, I'll tell you how, I live Europe, you think all this isn't systematic? There's people fuckin' gunning for you pal & they're Aiming for your kids to be a minority & your grand kids to be wiped out not long after they're born!!
I'll admit, the Nazis do the movement alot of harm, but people like you do it more fuckin' harm because you either don't acknowledge the calculation involved in this, or you play it down & tell people to play the wait & see game.... YOU'RE INFINITLY MORE DANGEROUS TO US THAN FUCKIN LARPERS WEARING ARM BANDS & FUNNY HAIR CUTS!!!
Anthony Jenkins
Look, it’s pretty fucking simple: if you’re Chad go out, find a wife and progenate; if you’re a beta cuck, get in line and do what Chad tells you to do
