>Oxford men guilty of sexual exploitation 'on a massive scale'
>Seven men have been found guilty of grooming and sexually abusing teenage girls "on a massive scale" in Oxford.
>The five victims were aged between 13 and 15 when the offences started.
>Mr Saxby added: "She says she has lost count of the number of 'uncles' she had sex with... After sex she would sit in the shower and scrub herself."
This keeps happening, over 84% of type 1 grooming gangs in the UK come from the Muslim pakistani community, it is ingrained in Islamic culture, its not the Sikhs, its not the Indians, its not the malaysian muslims, its the Pakistani Muslims.
Islam is not the reason. Islam is not a race. That said, you could say Christianity is a pedo religion also between all the white teacher pedo's, male pedo's and priest...
Even if you could prove these men are of the Mosque, that don't mean they walk on water. Just like any other faith.
So fuck off and get over yourself as if white people are the fucking gold standard of how people should live.
Jack Jenkins
It is the reason, it its literally 100% the reason.
Bentley Price
>Muslim pakistani community >its the Pakistani Muslims.
Well, according to Islam those persons deserve to be stoned to death, or be hanged, or get their heads cut of, because they broke several rules of the Koran and the tradition of the prophet Muhammed, and the rules they broke are punished with death.
Basically, it is stupid to say "Its because they are Muslim", "It is the fault of Islam", because Islam forbids this kind of actions. Its like to say, "School shootings are done by American Christians, BECAUSE THEY ARE CHRISTIANS. Therefore Christianity is the reason why they do it."
Henry Allen
How did they violate any rules in the Qu'ran? This girl would fall under the status of a sex slave, and anything is fair game with a sex slave
Owen Cooper
Why does it happen then?
Bacha bazi in Afghanistan is the Islamic tradition of fucking kids, and its apparently a normal thing there, fuck Islam.
>''He said they offered their victims "company, attention, acceptance into the group" as well as "food, parties, alcohol, and sometimes drugs" - Islamic punishment : Public whipping
>''He said the girls would be made to have sex at parties, in cars or parks, with other men around, and sometimes after being subjected to threats and violence.'' (Prostitution) - Islamic punishment : Either death by hanging, getting the cut of, or stoned to death
>"One girl was taken to a B&B in Iffley Road and told to have sex with older men, who one of the defendants described as "uncles", he said." -Islamic punishment: Death
Brandon Murphy
So how many hours of community service were they suggested to complete before being let go with the court's apologies?
Cameron Barnes
>Bacha bazi
>Homosexuality, Erotic dancing -Islamic punishment : Death for homosexuality, whipping/public shaming for erotic dancing.
You are talking about ''Cariye''s. İslamic rule, like Christianity and Judaism, allows slavery. İn case of war, İslamic law, like Judaism and Christianity, allows to take the cauptured enemy as slaves. The warrior is allowed to take the women of the enemy, like the Turks did to the Greek and Slavıc women in the Balkans, as cariyes. They are female slaves who are used as second class wifes. They must be treated according to islamic law.
What does people were doing is giving kids alcohol (Punished by public whipping), giving sex parties (Punished by stoning), kidnap children (Punished by being hanged), prostitution (Punished by death)
It's not "ingrained in islamic culture" it's that your government/police are themselves too afraid of these people to protect their sisters and daughters from them. These people would get executed after the first girl in iran. In america, I doubt they'd even be able to get white girls they'd probably have to victimize the girls in their mosques which would again get prosecuted very quickly because their fellow muslims would report them as soon as they discovered it. Muslims clearly care about their women being sexually abused. We clearly care about our white women being abused. Muslim countries come down hard on people who sexually abuse their girls. The united kingdom doesn't. Make the connection. And don't tell me "but afghanistan" they've been under soviet/american control since the 60s their government doesn't act in the best interests of its people...like the uk ironically.
Thomas Lopez
>leaf
Daniel Price
Isn't Oxford a comfy place and another thing how the fuck do pakis manage to do this in 95% white places.
Landon Hall
The Quran specifically condones murder and sex slavery. The Bible does the opposite.
Your religion is evil and your post, invalid.
Joseph Cooper
Because this is state-sanctioned mass rape by (((globalists))) determined to forever destroy the genetic lineage of the country. Upwards of a million white girls have been raped in the UK. The only time the government there does anything is when someone catches them not doing anything.
Joseph Ramirez
>Niggers defending Islam in this thread
Even if Islam has some sanctions against these activities, one has to wonder just how good and righteous the religion of Islam is if it bears no good fruit in the middle east. Look to Afghanistan and all the mud countries and you should see all you need to see. Backwards retards who have a shitty quality of life and get away with slavery, rape, brutality and can't form a civilization. That is strong evidence that Islam is a desert cult of fanatics and does not contain the light of truth which makes Christian nations blossom.
>the face of a fleshlight that has spent its entire life getting fucked by faggots that are comedically repressed and will violently lash out if you make eye contact with them
Blake Morris
Listen, snowape, Islam is just like Christianity, and Judaism, the only difference is, Christianity and Judaism are DEAD, what is left is just a joke. Europe, Australia, America - those countries in those continents ARE NOT Christians, just a modern Sodom and Gomorrah.
The Middle East, and India created the first civilizations, the first world powers. As Germans threw their shit to the streets, Baghdad was the home of wisdom.
Sebastian Powell
lmao retard Christianity is booming in China
Blake Taylor
>This keeps happening and you keep doing nothing about it
So harems were consensual places of fun were they?
Hudson Cruz
Meanwhile anglofags riot overseas in white peoples countries
Pathetic
Ryan Cook
No, it isn't and to imply that the sole reason for their behavior is simply due to their religion is wrong and pretty stupid/ignorant. Yes, statistically you can make it seem as though the sole definitive feature is their religious choice, but that's incredibly naive and pretty dumb. There are potentially many factors at play that you're simply ignoring/not taking into consideration at all. An example being that they come from potentially the same communities with similar living standards, with similar upbringings, similar levels/ quality of education recieved, poverty levels, etc.
Their being Muslim is simply a shared feature, but not a defining one. Simple evidence to this is the fact that these Muslims make up less than 1% of the Muslim population within the UK.
If the defining feature/characteristic was them being Muslim, why aren't all Muslims behaving in this manner?
Matthew Thomas
>Baghdad was the home of wisdom.
And ceased to be. The system which lifts millions of people out of poverty and which has created the greatest healthcare systems, architectural systems, roads, politics, literature etc. etc. is the judeao-christian tradition.
All you niggers have is chess and some elementary mathematics. Congrats! We're going to have flying cars and colonies on mars soon.
>Simple evidence to this is the fact that these Muslims make up less than 1% of the Muslim population within the UK.
You went too far and exposed your b8. Not bad though you had me going for a bit
Nathan Sullivan
How is "white people" the opposite of Muslim, leaf? Rascist much?
James Young
>Oxford men Yeah those are all native born Anglo-Saxon Oxford, England gentlemen Check out these all-England names: >Assad Hussain >Kameer Iqbal >Khalid Hussain >Kamran Khan >Moinul Islam >Raheem Ahmed >Alladitta Yousaf YUP JUST A FEW REGULAR OXFORD LADS GOING TO HAVE A PINT AT THE PUB PLAY SOME DARTS MAYBE WATCH FOOTY ON THE TELLY
>There are potentially many factors at play that you're simply ignoring/not taking into consideration at all. An example being that they come from potentially the same communities with similar living standards, with similar upbringings, similar levels/ quality of education recieved, poverty levels, etc. Telford, Oxford, and Rotterham. strange how so many different places have the same issue >If the defining feature/characteristic was them being Muslim, why aren't all Muslims behaving in this manner? because they haven't been arrested yet/some are being covered up by the police
Leo Young
And also in Africa. I guess you can help your christian broders by taking them to Europe. People are following religions to be members of communities. They want comradeship, unity. Some people join sport clubs, the others religions.
Thomas Nguyen
n-no you take the africans
Andrew Turner
reddit, faggot.
>N-n-not every muslim in the world is forcing children into sex slavery! Therefore theres nothing inherently wrong with their doctrine that explicitly states murdering infidels and enslaving them is ok!
Parker Phillips
dude how DARE you say it's just the pakistani muslims that's completely WRONG and racist
it's the bangladeshis too
Bentley Carter
>defending non Pakistani muds Pakistani didn't even exist as a country before the 1940s you uneducated twat
This. Brits are pure cucks like swedes. I guess this is part and parcel of living in a cucked country.
Jonathan Hill
>If the defining feature/characteristic was them being Muslim, why aren't all Muslims behaving in this manner? 99% sure this is b8 but for the 1% chance it isn't you're either a muslim yourself or you've never spent time with muslims before
Christopher Torres
>YOU ARE DISGUSTING >SLUTTY HEATHEN WHITE GIRLS >YOU DRESS LIKE SLUTS >YOU GO OUT AND DRINK >YOU HAVE SEX WITH ANY MAN YOU LIKE >YOU DESERVE TO BE BEATEN AND RAPED AND SOLD But it's OK to have our Western women >who are being so liberated and feminist >with their attire and sexual behavior attacked because Islam is a religion of peace
>the middle east is a haven of peace and prosperity right Many middle eastern countries are peaceful, but we're not talking about the middle east, are we? We're talking about the UK and yes, the majority of Muslims in the UK are law abiding citizens.
You're also once again deciding that religion is the defining factor, which again is pretty stupid/naive.
Jaxson Jackson
>Many middle eastern countries are peaceful only the one being subjugated by stronger countries like Kazakhstan
Christopher Stewart
Taqiya does not work like that. Taqiya, which means "to protect" is to lie, to save your own life, or do something good.
Western people seem to not understand what a harem is. Harem is a household, is the place where women get education, is the place where servants of the Sultan lived. If you understand under a harem a bunch of women who live to sexually serve the Sultan, you are basically partly right. The wifes, sons, and concubines of the Sultan also lived in the harem. Like I said, Islam allows a man to marry 4 wifes, and also allows concubines, who also must be treated according to islamic law.
Oliver Foster
>“Muslim girls are good and pure because they dress modestly, covering down to their ankles and wrists, and covering their crotch area. They stay virgins until marriage. They are our girls.
>"White girls and non-Muslim girls are bad because you dress like slags. You show the curves of your bodies (showing the gap between your thighs means you’re asking for it) and therefore you’re immoral. White girls sleep with hundreds of men. You are the other girls. You are worthless and you deserve to be gang-raped.”
Justin Hughes
It's basically British law that African and Muslim men break in young British girls between the age of 13 and 15 before Anglocucks are allowed a go.
Consider it sort of a form of public service. Hard-working, dedicated black and Arab men are having all that awkward, uncomfortable virgin sex with schoolgirls going through that stage of life so you don't have to. You get to enjoy them when they've already become experienced and know what they want sexually.
Adrian Anderson
Islam is part of the reason .
The reason these crimes happen and go on for so long with such wide participation in the Muslim community (hundreds of clients) is because of the Islamic teaching that “Islam must not be defamed” meaning that no one in the community would go forward to the police about child rape and child prostitution like would happen ing white or any other group of people.
Secondly the Islamic teaching that non-Muslims are dirty, the filthiest people on earth and hated by Allah results in a widespread mindset that non-Muslims do not deserve respect or dignity so it’s no big deal and not a bad thing to abuse them.
So no , Islamic teachings and culture are definitely responsible to a significant degree for the widespread, entrenched child rapist behaviour of Muslims.
Caleb Howard
Well, before you decided to bomb Iraq and Syria, it partly was.
Aiden Cooper
>"Secondly the Islamic teaching that non-Muslims are dirty, the filthiest people on earth and hated by Allah results in a widespread mindset that non-Muslims do not deserve respect or dignity so it’s no big deal and not a bad thing to abuse them."
Just the read the Quran and get over it. The Quran says that a Muslim is someone who do good things, acts good, has a good moral. The Quran also says that every man, no matter what religion, will allowed to paradise if he is good person.
Jackson Foster
>the Islamic teaching that non-Muslims are dirty, the filthiest people on earth and hated by Allah results in a widespread mindset that non-Muslims do not deserve respect or dignity so it’s no big deal and not a bad thing to abuse them. That sounds like a very familiar ideology >you dirty goyim
Islamic teachings and attitudes contributed to these crimes happening. See You can’t have a situation where thousands of Muslims know that white 10-15 year olds are being raped and pimped and not one of them reports it to the police without there being widespread attitudes that white girls are dirty and so don’t deserve or require respect or dignity and that Islam must not be defamed
It’s the same way that the Catholic Church child abuse scandals are partially due to the attitude within Christianity that Christianity must not be defamed.
The teachings and attitudes of both Islam and Christianity are responsible in part for these crimes occurring as much as they did and for as long as they did.
Connor White
You are aware that South Korea has a massive rape problem, aren't you?
Grayson Fisher
>pic how quintessentially OXFORD! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Austin Johnson
let me repeat that, those people are using drugs, alcohol, use women as prostitutes, and according to Islam they must be killed, but you mean it has something to with Islam? I must ask you, are you fucking retarded?
Evan Williams
Google the Indian groomer brothers Probably Sikhs, who groomed dozens of pink pussied schoolgirls Islam is evil but its also down to their racial type/behaviour. They are born rapists irrespective of religion or made up nation. (muh pakistani, a country drawn up by the British in the 1940s.) Just stick to dark = bad and you'll be ok
>“Muslim girls are good and pure because they dress modestly, covering down to their ankles and wrists, and covering their crotch area. They stay virgins until marriage. They are our girls. >"White girls and non-Muslim girls are bad because you dress like slags. You show the curves of your bodies (showing the gap between your thighs means you’re asking for it) and therefore you’re immoral. White girls sleep with hundreds of men. You are the other girls. You are worthless and you deserve to be gang-raped.” independent.co.uk/voices/rotherham-grooming-gang-sexual-abuse-muslim-islamist-racism-white-girls-religious-extremism-a8261831.html
Julian Gonzalez
>The Quran also says that every man, no matter what religion, will allowed to paradise if he is good person.
No it doesn’t. Give me the verse it says that.
I can’t have a sensible conversation about Islam with you if you have deluded , incorrect beliefs about Islam.
Isaiah Ward
>where thousands of Muslims know that white 10-15 year olds are being raped and pimped and not one of them reports it to the police Are you personally interviewing these thousands of Muslims? Or are you talking out of your arse?
Luis Wood
Who said anything about rape
Christopher James
Bakarah / 62. ""Those who believe, and those who are Jewish, and the Christians, and the Sabeans—any who believe in God and the Last Day, and act righteously—will have their reward with their Lord; they have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.""
Robert Brooks
>One girl was taken to a B&B in Iffley Road and told to have sex with older men, who one of the defendants described as "uncles", he said Tfw former Oxford student Tfw walked down Iffley Road every day on my way back to dorms Achmed was raping little girls mere meters away from me throughout Could've busted in there with the lads and ended the hellish torment I didn't know... I didn't know
The fact that they are not strictly practicing Muslims does not change the fact that the dehumanising lack of respect and antipathy towards non-Muslim girls that these men collectively must have in their mindset in order to be invited to fuck an 11 year old non Muslim and responding by either participating or not reporting them to the police is due to the teachings of Islam. It is a cultural mindset that has formed from Islamic teaching calling non Muslims the filthiest creatures in the world, hated by God, etc.
Samuel King
I have. The perpetrators were reported to the police countless times. It's the polices failure to act that was the problem, not some Muslim conspiracy to hide the truth.
Kevin Smith
> no true scotsman
Thomas Baker
>I was called a “white slag” and “white c***” as they beat me.
-Racism. Islam forbids any kind of racism, and it is unislamic to see race, and nationality as important. The Prophet Muhammed it self had "pink" skin, and was according to Islamic sources not an Arab, not brown, but a person who became a Arab. In his last message he said that no matter which skin colour a person has, that only the fear towards god should be important.
>""You are worthless and you deserve to be gang-raped."" -Rape and Sex without marriage. Punishment : Death by getting stoned.
Adrian Collins
I like how no one in this thread has ever met a chav girl. Theyre literally disgusting on the outside and inside and willingly seek booze and drugs in the first place. They dont target any other race because its only white people that produce the kind of offspring you see crawling around on the jeremy kyle show.
Owen Anderson
but you didn't, I didn't, and thousands of others are getting away with it right now.
Carson Thompson
Well maybe walking on eggs around muzzies is what enabled them in the first place. We let them fester in their newly claimed clay; then act surprised that they return to the barbaric ways from which they claimed to want to flee. They shouldn't even be here in the first place, that's what the problem is.
While you have a point and make sense, currently we don't have another discrimination factor that could reduce the group and try to do something with the rapes.
While you offer sense, you also take us further apart from the solution.
Hudson Diaz
These grooming gangs typically had hundreds of Muslim customers who paid to rape the young girls that these gangs controlled. And there would have been hundreds more who were invited to rape these girls but declined. Then you have the hundreds more that these customers probably told about it in their community. So that is on the order of a 1000 or at least many hundreds of Muslim men who knew that 10-15 year old non-Muslim girls were being raped and prostituted but never reported it to the police.
That would never happen in the white community or any other community in Britain. If a white child rapist went to his mates and asked them if they’d like to join in fucking an 11 year old he has, he’d get reported to the police almost instantly and probably beaten up,
But the Muslim community did no such thing because of their Islamic belief that Islam and the ummah (Muslim community) must not be defamed and because of their Islamic attitude that non-Muslim are dirty and live like animals and are hated by Allah so it isn’t really a bad thing for them to get treated like dirt and treated like non-humans with 0 respect or dignity.
These are hard facts staring you in the face which you are trying your best not to see. Have some intellectual honesty. It was Islamic attitudes and teachings which facilitated and allowed these crimes to take place within the Muslim community.
Oliver Hernandez
Look, a Muslim is someone who follows the rules of Islam. You can't be a Muslim, if you dont follow the teachings. If you are a Muslim, you are forced to act as one.
You can say that you have a problem with "asian gangs", with "pakistanis", with people who dont act right, who act against the law, and so on. But if you say "Muslim", and if you mean that Islam has something to do with it, I must speak against you, because this is just stupid. If you are a "pimp", use drugs, rape, you must be killed according to islamic law. You will die as someone who broke the islamic law, and will be punished in hell. Basically, you cant be a Muslim if you do that. That is what I want to say.
Nicholas Sanders
Don't believe the "indians are based" meme. Pakistani was part of India until 1947. Pakistani is a meme country created by white men. Pajeets are after the white teen puss just as much as paki muzzies, and they often employ the same rape and grooming techniques as muslims, proving it's really all a racial/genetic tendancy for rape and the religious element is a distraction Of course islam is evil and encourages rape, but their whole religion is a manifestation of their racial behaviour and temperament We don't want any brown skins near our girls, do we lads? So please kick the "Indians are cool cos they're not muslims XD" thing permanently into the long grass
If islam is 100% the reason then why aren't the uighurs in china raping thousands of chinese girls? Islam is the reason why they feel the need to do it, your society is the reason why they have the confidence to not only act on it but do it dozens if not hundreds of times. A better question is who does your police protect and who does your government represent? Because it doesn't seem like they are for the common white english man.
Aiden Wilson
All you do is lie. Those aren't "real" Muslims? They "violated" Muslim law? Then where are the fucking Islamic regulators punishing these "fake Muslims?" The regulators don't fucking exist because your satanic book tells you to lie to anyone outside your moon worshiping death cult. Mohammed was a goat and you will die in the new crusades.
Alexander Rogers
Nope. Check any exegeses of the Quran . That verse refers to Jews and Christians who were alive before the message of Muhammad. Thst’s Why the previous verses are talking about Moses and his followers.
According to Islam, Muhammad is a prophet from the same line of prophets as Abraham , so of course all righteous prophets of previous prophets will go to heaven. However any Jew or Christian after the time of Muhammad who dies not become a Muslim is associating partners with God and so will be punished with eternal hellfire.
Now tell me, did you say something wrong and misleading just now out of genuine ignorance or dishonesty?
Well, I see that you have an IQ problem... Also, a Muslim can't act punishments without a Shariah court allowing it. Basically, make you politicians open a Shariah court, let a Islamic judge speak the judgement, and they want see the next day.
Jose Rogers
Of course Sharia for britain, the perfect solution everyone happy.
Liam Rogers
You guys should make your own sharia country then. Oh wait...
Grayson Hughes
Just to be clear, doesn't the Quran also say that Muhammed is the single best example for any muslim, of any time period to follow? (side question, does that apply for muslim women too or?). And if you're going to follow Muhammeds example, you might believe you're being "moral", and you might be - according to Islamic values. But according to western values things such as : >Chopping the head off a 100y.o blind poet because he made fun of you >marrying a 6 y.o, consumating the marriage at 9 >lying to unbelievers, both in general and about Islam >subverting local societies with violent warfare to fund your religious crusade, because a Jihad in the name of allah is fundamentally moral (e.g Medina). Lets face it, Islam is a fucking joke of a religion. It contains multiple highly contradictory rules, and the general consensus throughout the centuries appears to be that you can mistreat kaffirs quite badly. I'm sorry but your religion is simply not moral to the same degree Christianity is, and Muslims inability to accept this (understandable, since doing so would by definition make them apostates and thus worthy of execution according to Muhammed, pbuh (or as we say in english, R.I.P) ) is the reason they cannot form a part of a modern multicultural society, and why shit like this KEEPS HAPPENING WITH ISLAM. There are entire religions founded on the basis of what cunts muslims are to non muslims >religion of peace >truck of peace >rooftops of peace >Honour killings of peace. Spot the odd one out. Trick question there are none.
It's also a bit ironic that english muslims have this holier-than-though view of english white women for being whores because now we know that the muslims have been raping these women in their adolescent years and there is a massive correlation between being sexually abused as a girl and growing up to be a whore. I hope everyone makes note of this as muslims on this site try to make this point often "white women are whores so they deserve it" and no one calls it out.
Tyler Green
Well, I could believe the Islamic writers, who actually studied the religion, who were commenting this verse, and were declaring that everyone who believes in god, and acts good can go to heaven..
Or I could believe you, someone I dont know what he studied, or if he has any knowledge about the religion.
I believe you understand why I trust the experts.
Justin Lewis
the more the fire rises the better,labour are sunk after this,tthey lost 3x in a row due to labour and rotterham,this is gonna make them look like islamic nonce enablers.
I now we are supposed to be lying to the infidels, but every cult interprets the quran different and some very large portions of the muslim world believe non-muslims to be lower than dogs.
Kevin Fisher
This is like a communist saying " all those countries implementing communism weren't true communist countries".
The important fact is that just like those bad outcomes in communist countries were a result of communist teachings, so too are these grooming gangs are a result of Islamic attitudes and teachings. If these communities did not see non-muslims as filthy, like animals, hated by allah, etc. ( and you must know that these attitudes are common and widespread in the muslim community and preachings of muslim clerics and within the quran and hadith ) then these communities would not have had grooming gangs because as soon as one Pedo said to his cousin or co-worker " hey, do you want to come have some fun with my 12 year old" that guy would be reported to the police, which is what would happen in the non-muslim white community. It is purely because of these islamic attitudes where they see non-muslims as dirty and not deserving of respect or dignity , and the attitude that "islam must not be defamed" that the phenomenon of child rape gangs occured.
Without these two islamic mindsets that are widespread in the muslim community, any muslim pedophile would be forced to operate alone or use encrypted , anonymous internet chat rooms like normal pedophiles in the non-muslim community have to. But because of these two islamic attitudes, these muslim predators were totally safe asking their cousins, uncles, mates, coworkers whether they wanted to join in raping non-muslim little girls from as young as 10 and they did not need to fear any of them reporting him or beating him up like would normally happen in a a white , non-muslim community.
You seem to have no answer to this point. You can't challenge that these islamic attitudes are from islamic scripture and teaching, you can't challenge that these attitudes are widespread in the muslim community, you can't challenge that these attitudes had the effect of allowing the child rape gang [continued]
Luis Edwards
Thanks, I wanted to post those too but couldn't find my copies
