Is Germany the only country that benefits from the EU?

As worries rise that the eurozone is slipping into recession, it’s clear Germany is doing way better than its neighbors. Today, the country has low unemployment, very low inflation, a large trade surplus and a balanced budget. By contrast, most members of the Eurozone are stagnating, while some are going through a catastrophic recession and suffering from debilitating unemployment. The German government says that its own success and its neighbors’ failures are unrelated; that poor performance is due to poor decisions. Yet, even though the policy failures are real enough, this analysis is false.

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EU had pumped allot of development money in the new member states. as an inhabitant of a new member state, i can say that those money are very rarely used by my government, because they are harder to being stole due to EU checking what they are doing to them. the conclusion is that my country has all the help it needs from the EU to become better, but the corruption of our politicians it's responsible of the stagnation.
Back to your point, Germany always had the best economy or potential than any other country. it's normal to remain the best.

we are the only ones who do a plus and reduce their public debt
> prepare for the time after the economic crisis to take over europe harr harr
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It's in Germany's interest to help other EU members. The times of European rivalries is mostly over.
Nowadays Europeans have to stay united to be able to compete with the US and China.

Economical yes
But the usual Hans pays 50% taxes to keep South Europe alive

On the one hand Germany is keeping the EU afloat with paying into the EU, on the other hand german companies flood the international markets with cheap products while competing EU countries can't sell their own products. German workers are getting jewed by the corporations with low wages while they keep repeating that Germans have to put in extra effort to keep countries like Greece or Portugal afloat. There's a reason german lobbyists are against a coordinated european economy, it would mean that Germany would have to divide its profits between other countries.

Germany is the 2nd poorest EU country after Portugal, we're just good at doctoring statistics.

>what is Israel

>Nowadays Europeans have to stay united to be able to compete with the US and China.
united? really? ironically your guys are destroying Europe...

Germany is like that fat, snobby kid at a party who eats the whole cake and then wonders why there's nothing left for everyone else. All while your middle class is drifting into painfully propagated poverty. I can't say it's any different here. Politicians are arguing about every million euro despite putting every 4th tax euro into the retirement of a group which just keeps getting older and older, even prolonging their life as vegetable to get their votes.

define "germany"

the average citizien has no benefit from the EU only the biggest german companies have

Free trade between countries benefits nearly every citizen.

Germany is always doing well, because of Germans.
Germany was fine without the EU, Germany was fine and growing with the DM, Germany is fine with the Euro and Germany does well despite the EU, not because.

The EU is not a requisite of free trade between countries.

No the germans get fucked too.
Just some german corporations benefit from it who can exploit their workers with shit wages and export the cheaply produced stuff for higher profits.

>Germany is fine with the Euro
and the rest of the countries? man....

Well....yes and no. Germany makes by far the most benefit, but other countries do too.

Imagine the EU market and the euro as one bucket of water. Germany is swimming in it. It uses your labor to build it and lets you dip your toes in. You still get to use it, better than nothing, some benefit...but not as much as you should or as much as your labour is worth.

>Germany is always doing well, because of Germans.

Biggest myth ever told and reinforced.

The other countries got their debt payments delayed by the Euro. They can now just like Germany spend money they will never have.
The other countries were already bad before and always looked bad next the stable DM. Everyone thought Germany was crazy to give up its own stable currency. Now everyone seems to think it is an evil masterplan to control the other countries.

I think it is not a positive thing. Germans are drones that work work work despite getting a small allowance left after taxation and insurances are done with them.
Germans have the lowest amount of savings in the EU including eastern Europe.

>Germans are drones that work work work despite getting a small allowance left after taxation and insurances are done with them.
>Germans have the lowest amount of savings in the EU including eastern Europe.

It's all part of the plan. You get visibly high salaries, which makes you comfortable, but also high prices and taxes so you have no security and are scared to lose your jobs.

Keeps you nice and docile.

Momentarily is also Poland and Ukraine because - for geopolitical reasons - they are funneling tons of money to them.

Apart from them, all northern EU countries who used to have a strong currency and strong ties to German economy benefitted (nethergland, belgium, austria as well).

All the others saw a bump in the first couple of years, followed by fucking crisis.

>Germany
I dont even think they benefit desu
Mudslimes benefit, rich donors benefit, the global banking cartel benefits

People are fucked, except lefties who socially construct their reality and live inside their tiny heads, they're fine with having everything around them destroyed

>Free trade between countries benefits nearly every citizen.
ofc, keep telling yourself that

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> people unironicly believe EU is free trade

its not free trade its the opposite
one of the biggest argument to leave the eu is that is not free trade but instead working together with big companies to give them advantages

That is free trade, retard. In free trade the biggest win, because it's free and there's nothing protecting the smaller, which means the only thing that matters is strength and nothing else.

The fuck do you think free trade is? Are you one of those retarded western socialists who think free trade is where small companies and anyone are enabled to work and trade?

> he thinks corporatism is free trade
its not free trade if big companies give money to politicans so they get an advantage over smaller idiots. its never free trade if big companies work together with goverments.
its free trade if smaller buisness have a chance to beat the bigger company because their product is better and not that small buisnesses always win because they buy out EU politicans

I'm just gonna leave this here...

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*big companies always win
typo there

>its not free trade if big companies give money to politicans so they get an advantage over smaller idiots. its never free trade if big companies work together with goverments.

That is free trade

>its free trade if smaller buisness have a chance to beat the bigger company

That is socialism

I'm not saying socialism is bad, I'm just saying you're retarded.

the norvegian here is right, german house ownership is one of lowest is europe, unemployement rate data is drugged by workers paid peanuts and without an actual stable job, living costs are high

anyway, euro is basically deutsch mark 2.0

free trade is when the person with the better product and the most paying customers wins no matter how much lobbing power he has

buying politicans to get an unfair advantage is not free trade its corperatism fgt

> it’s clear germany is doing way better than its neighbours
I wish.

Did you honestly say that with a straight face?

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Of course not.

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I'm anti EU, but to be honest it did have potential to be a useful tool for all of Europe. However as with most things you get one bit of rot somewhere in the apple and it will spread. So what we've seen happen in the EU is that there's a few at the top and a few middlemen which are creaming money from everyone else and not only have they spread that rot, they've attracted other diseases (migrants) into the apple. So what do you do with a very mouldy and diseased apple? You don't eat it, you throw it the fuck away. Don't bother recycling it because you'll end up with an Irish famine situation.

kick us out if you despise us this much.

Nope, that's when the state/organization (in the case of the EU) is involved in the market to the extent where it curbs the advantages of big companies and capital.

A left idea, in many cases socialism.

>buying politicans to get an unfair advantage is not free trade its corperatism fgt

It is. free trade though. I make money, I promote my product the way I choose. Limiting my ability to lobby is limiting free trade.

>corporatism
>corporatism
>corporatism
What are you, a fucking college student in his first year? Be fucking serious. To begin with, free trade assumes an oligarchy, since that's THE BASIS OF FREE FUCKING TRADE.

>unironically responding to Mehmet who thinks Germany supports the EU and not vice versa

There would be nothing wrong with the EU if Germany wasn't part of it desu

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In the eurozone yes.
In the EU nope, east europe countrues with monetary sovereignty are benefitting too.
In the end doesn't matter the euro is going to crash and burn in the next years.

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Germany doesn't benefit from EU at all.
Germany has the highest taxes, the lowest pension, the highest retirement age, the lowest property rates and the lowest sum on their bank.
They just constantly pay for the other counties

Germany is going to have to pick up the tab when we leave, no more contributions of cash from us.

Sorry.

No, tax havens such as Luxembourg and Ireland benefit far more.

That money is returned a hundredfold by Germany making profits out of roping everyone with the Euro.

The euro is literally the only reason Germany does not outright collapse.

>no more contributions of cash from us.
Those 12ish billion you contribute are literally less than the error margins in the EU budget.

lol

And what do you contribute? Other than high crime rates, high STD rates and gypsies?

Yeah you don't get to speak on monetary matters you fucking parasite.

So when Germany would have kept the D-Mark it would have collapsed?

Not Germany, they're too busy being ass raped by the "Religion of Peace". Angela Merkel on the otherhand, most likely, she gets her comfy position again and again with the two million bomba' Mans she's letting in the Europe, I just want to see how hard Europe is going to crash once UK, Italy and possibly Greece leaves.

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It wouldn't be enjoying the constant surpluses it current does that's for certain.

The taxes your companies don't pay here and pay back in the UK outweigh your contribution to the budget that goes to us. You literally receive money from us.

No, it would have had a totally different economy that would be quite a bit shittier due to huge competition from cheaper products, which the euro effectively prevents.

yea no. because the costs for fugees are paid by the communes and not the Bund. Bund debt is "decreasing" by 5% while communal debt is rising by 200 up to 1000 %.

Please they don't pay tax here either and most of them that do it are American companies, you should look at Ireland and Luxembourg if you want to talk about tax dodging, we have a load of Caribbean islands to launder our money and you being in a position of NET receiver of cash, well you're in Ireland's previous position, they loved the EU and sucked its cock clean repeatedly, until they started being contributors. Now they have had enough and we'll see this happen when YOUR taxes have to fund a bunch of cucks in the butthurt belt. Not that you leeching parasites will ever contribute anything of worth to humanity, let alone the EU.

We do not receive money from you at all, we've been paying in more than 12 billion per year, if you deduct what we get back (which the EU decides where it's spent) then it's 12 billion. And it's not just cash that we're paying, we have to send troops to Latvia and other Baltic regions, our foreign aid budget is also used on the EU.

Now until you actually contribute, you get no right to speak so you shut the hell up. Parasite.

>Please they don't pay tax here either and most of them that do it are American companies
Bullshit, there's hundreds of UK companies in Bulgaria that pay 0 in tax because they declare losses with accounting magic.

>ot that you leeching parasites will ever contribute anything of worth to humanity, let alone the EU.
Says the nation that literally caused the current state of the world by inviting the jews and letting them have control over the banks and then being the FIRST country in the history of the world to surrender to them instead of kicking them out.

>We do not receive money from you at all, we've been paying in more than 12 billion per year, if you deduct what we get back (which the EU decides where it's spent) then it's 12 billion
That is pennies. Absolute pennies. You make it back on profit in just energy/oil with less regulations.

>And it's not just cash that we're paying, we have to send troops to Latvia and other Baltic regions, our foreign aid budget is also used on the EU.
Are you actually trying to imply the imperial ambitions of Britain (and currently as a proxy to the US), which is the reason we're not all speaking German or Russian and that you even EXIST are somehow a DRAIN?

>Now until you actually contribute, you get no right to speak so you shut the hell up. Parasite.
It's pretty hilarious how Britain is in the state it is right now because cucks believe anything they're told by kike-controlled media and you pretend to be redpilled by...believing anything you're told by kike-controlled daily mail. Without any doubt whatsoever.

Here, have some of my bongistan folder.

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Yes, it is
Euro is too expensive for Greece, Spain, Portugal