Best time in history to go MGTOW

Any man that doesn't take advantage of this amazing specific moment in time that allows us to go MGTOW with basically complete comfort and ease.....is a fool.

Think about it. Hundreds of years or thousands of years ago life was hard. In fact, life has always been hard for humans for basically 99.9% of our history as a species. So back in the day if you wanted to go your own way that shit wasn't so easy. No women meant no children which meant no one to physically help you maintain the hard life you have no choice but to live (hunting, building, maintaining a farm, etc.)

If you managed to be completely self sufficient you still had natural predators, poor medicine, and other men in their groups that would kill you for your belongings.

Even if you didn't even have to worry about any of that...there was boredom. Not much to do in 1565 know what I mean? Not all by yourself with no wealth anyways.

Fast forward to today. Wow. Just think about it. You can be a free man, to do as you will, and live in a modern home/cabin/apartment/camper/whatever safely. With air condition, electricity, a machine that will wash your clothes, do the dishes, and so on and so on.

An internet full on endless content, movies, shows, everything. You can travel all over the world for little cost. You can dine on something new every single night and never break a sweat creating food for yourself.

This won't last. Now is the time. For as much as we preach MGTOW we know there is an expiration date to all of our modern freedoms, and that date has a lot to do with the % of men that choose this lifestyle.

So seize this time in history. Work hard, save money, GYOW, and literally live a life more amazing than even the kings of our past lived.

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Where are my MGTOW brothers at?

Reminder that MGTOW is a Jewish psyop to stop whites from reproducing.

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Fucking idiot, the jews want you to reproduce and consume. They wont make a profit if you have a small family or not children at all.

Money is money, it doesnt matter who gets to spend it. They will always win.

MGTOWs are the male equivalent of lesbian separatist feminists from the 70s. What a bunch of useles faggots.

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Tradthot or tradcuck detected

>Horseshoe theory

Back to plebbit with you.

Implying a patriarchy isn't supperior for society.
Where as this feminism has given us 22 trillion in debt and gibs out the ass. No merit anywhere, just feels.

Sorry that you fell for "le american dream" faggot

Have fun raising your kids and wasting your money , time and energy on your annoying wife.

I will be free and happy for the rest of my life.

aye, sitting on Sup Forums while your dishes are being washed by a machine is heaven on Earth. Cannot get better.

>the jews want you to reproduce and consume.
They want the easily controllable shitskins to reproduce you fucking retard. It's not a coincidence that every time they want to push singleness and childless it's always with white people.

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So what?
Won't be a problem for my line if my line ends with me.
I'm sick of the 'woman question' threads posted on here. They need to suffer, it's the only real teacher.
I don't think I could give a shit at this point.

the American dream is still the way to go if you play your cards right

stop running from intimacy. They're not all like she was to you.

There are billions of shitskins , indians and the like. They will eventually move to the west and destroy everything.

Same as what is happening in america with black live matters, and black gangs. It is too late to stop them now. Black americans are in the police, military , justice , everywhere ... it is a matter of time till they take over the world.

I couldnt care less since I´ll be dead long before that. I just want an easy and comfy life, your children will have a horrible life by the way.

Every women is the same. Some are worse than the others but in the end all of them are evil.

Id rather fuck my hand , a sex robot or a prostitute than being in a relationship.

Look, Stop with the MGTOW stuff.
If you don't want to spend your life chasing women, especially if you already suck at attractive girls, then that's your thing. But you don't have to make a fucking support group out of it. If you have to have a support group for your life decision, that means you actually don't want to be sans-gf.

Yeah modern women suck, Yeah it is a lot of sacrifice and work for something that ultimately isn't enjoyable with a high risk of having her divorce you, steal all your shit, and have you pay out the ass for kids you never get to see raised by her psycho-ass and whatever revolving door of scumbags are plowing her that week. Yeah life would be a lot easier and simpler if you just had to worry about yourself.

But you are going for sustainable short term enjoyments instead of long term happiness. It may be fine now when you are 18 and you don't want kids. But once you hit 35 you'll want to kill yourself, regardless of how rich or free you are.

You are here because you suck at talking to girls. Yes, I'm talking to >YOU< right now. You could point to some PUA who also embraces MGTOW and he talks about how he bangs 10/10 sluts all the time with no attachments. But that isn't you. You're not fit, you're not attractive, you dress like a slob, you're poor, and/or you have severe anti-game. You walk in a room and instantly every pussy is drier than the Atacama Desert. It would take a LOT of work for you to get the girls that you actually are attracted to. And what does that work get you? Some dumb cunt who you need to treat like shit just so she'll respect you? Some whore that if you show up with flowers on the first date, she'll snapchat your goofy ass and all her friends will laugh at how dorky you are? Nah, you say. I just won't play that game. I'm smarter. I don't need the headache.

Good. Fine. Dandy. Then stop calling yourself MGTOW. No one cares. And you don't need a support group.

Shitskins is gon shitskin and reproduce in excess, beyond their means of providing for their offspring, regardless of what lifestyle choices you make. This is how it always has been, and always will be.

>So what?
If whites don't start banding together and breed more, we'll be overrun by shitskins and western civilization will collapse. Take pride in what our ancestors have contributed to the world, and don't dishonor them by becoming a genetic dead end. Unless you're non-white, then go ahead and "go your own way" for all I care.

This selfishness and cowardliness is going to be our doom as a race.

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my friend married single mom and had his own baby with her. now hes stuck taking her son to boy scouts constantly, work all week, pay for everything, and she stays home with the baby. that kind of constant responsibility has got to be a big pain in the ass. i may not be happy but i don't have to deal with two kids and wife constantly wanting everything you have. shit gets tiring. also absolutely no child support from kids real father. she got my friend to completely accept the father role. sad.

>Muh race
You can have as many pure little white children as you want, but that won't stop them from being taken from you by your lovely angelic aryan waifu along with a good portion of your money and possessions.

>my friend married single mom
Your friend fucked up. There are plenty good women out there that one doesn't have to settle for damaged goods.

>I will be free and happy for the rest of my life.
yet you need a support group and a label?

Our race was doomed the moment l we gave womynz rights .

Tfw

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White knight nationalists still can't tell me why I should marry a woman who isn't a virgin.

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You know, it's getting kinda hard to avoid thinking that there's some Jewish conspiracy. I realize it's confirmation bias, but there really aren't that many Jews out there, and it seems to come up absurdly often.

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Nice projection

>Our race was doomed.
ALL races were doomed, even the Jews to some extent (probably).

I wonder if tradcucks are really as stupid as they seem, to think they can talk men into bad deals simply by calling them virgins, rather than working to build an incentive system.

But who am I kidding. Anybody that worships pussy as much as the average tradcuck is definitely stupid as shit.

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I am just trying to help other people realize that they can be free

post ANY amount of evidence that you are a male with high sexual market value

>There are plenty good women out there that one doesn't have to settle for damaged goods.
Only ~15% of women ages 18-22 are virgins. Whittle that number down a bit more for mutual attraction, long-term chemistry and likelihood of meeting.

nah, you're looking for validation.
People naturally want to have families.

Yup. That's about right.

Thank you based American friend.

>It may be fine now when you are 18 and you don't want kids. But once you hit 35 you'll want to kill yourself, regardless of how rich or free you are.

Woman detected. If he decides he wants to have kids at 35, he'll just do it. Ditto 45, ditto 55. Women are the only ones who need to do that shit early or never, which is why women in their early 30s are the easiest lays of all. It's right when they realize that the music is about to stop and they haven't even started looking for a chair to sit down in, so they panic and start fucking anything that seems even remotely like it could work out.

>Only ~15% of women ages 18-22 are virgins.
Then don't marry a virgin. Are you so insecure that a woman having a few past lovers trigger you this much? All that matters is she's a good wive and mother to your future children.

Now if she's a major slut (partner count in the double digits) then I can understand your hesitation. But if you yourself aren't a virgin you have no right to a virgin wife.

Nailed.

>Just man up and provide for a roastie

Aaaand, roastie detected.

>let's shackle white men to the most entitled, most nation wrecking, most treacherous, most birth-limiting factor there is
>that's going to help with our reproduction
Necessity is the mother of invention, and with white women turning out like they did it and losing their sole purpose it has become necessary to replace them.
Some go for onaholes, some for 2d, some go for rice niggers, but the real redpill is asceticism, a cult of martial brotherhood and artificial wombs that are going to allow us to mass-produce our fittest and finest while ensuring that anyone gets to fulfill his biological imperative if they put in the work.

You can't deny this as the best modus operandi ensuring the future of the white race and mankind.

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>Woman detected. If he decides he wants to have kids at 35, he'll just do it. Ditto 45, ditto 55.
>kid graduates highschool
>lol I'm 73

It's possible but not optimal.
And just to prove I'm not a woman, I think the old way of having a man 5+ years older than the woman is probably the best way to do it.
She isn't old enough to be a used up slag. He's old enough to be established.
26 year old male with an 18 year old female to pop out the babies and have the healthiest eggs would be the best way to go.

I am physically attractive, at least facial wise, I'm not built but I'm not fat and I have an alright job. I've been in numerous relationships as well

>gets asked for evidence
>replies with this

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A "roastie", from what I gathered from whiny MGTOWs, is a massive slut. A woman who had a few partners is not one. I doubt your own mother was a virgin yet she ended up being a good one, raising you.

Fuck off bitch

>Are you so insecure that a woman having a few past lovers trigger you this much?
Yeah, actually it does. I don't want to commit to used goods. It's disgusting to me on every level and it's not something I want to enable. This is ignoring the fact that likelihood of cheating/divorce goes up significantly after even 1 previous partner.

>Now if she's a major slut (partner count in the double digits) then I can understand your hesitation.
Go look at the stats, stop doing this arbitrary bullshit about "double digits." One other dick is one too many.

>But if you yourself aren't a virgin you have no right to a virgin wife.
I grew up in the Church and made a conscious decision pretty early on to wait until marriage. Going through High School dating someone who was actually somewhat serious in her faith helped a bit. Unfortunately, that didn't work out. But let me guess, even though I am a virgin, I still have "no right" to a virgin wife, right?

I love this so much for a number of reasons. Niggers like you will either say this, or tell me that "I should just go lose my virginity and see that it's not such a big deal." There's really no victory condition, you just want to peddle bullshit to get guys to settle down with whores.

>A woman who had a few partners
Define "a few"

Wow, "slag." Sorry I ever doubted you bro. You're totally not a woman. It's completely normal for men to feel suicidal if they haven't procreated by the time they reach the age where their fertility would get challenged if they were a woman.

If a rich, free 35 year old dude decides that he wants kids, "oh shit, I want to kill myself" is the last thing he'd ever think. That's like the totally ideal place for a guy to be. Spend a few years banging desperate girls, you're at the age and status where it's justified and acceptable to get a pre-nup, and you can have two kids by the time you're 42. They'll be in college when you're turning 60, and they'll be pushing 40 when you're dead. Still get grandkids, no worries, no problems.

Only a woman would ever think that suddenly deciding you want kids at 35 is a problem.

Two or three. Basically can be counted on one hand.

>Implying whiny MGTOWs, are the only one's who say Roatie.

Begone you stupid whore.

>Only a woman would ever think that suddenly deciding you want kids at 35 is a problem.
How old are you? Seriously?

You start to lose energy after 25.
I'm 29 and I'm not the spry young thing I was when I was 24. You want to be able to play with your kids and connect with them. Not have this huge unnatural age gap where you are a distant unrelatable father figure.

If you're dealing with a non-virgin, you have no way of knowing how many partners she's had. She could, and in all likelihood will, lie to you about her partner count. I know you're a roastie because you seem to think men believe the bullshit women tell them about how many men they've slept with. Every sexually experienced man knows this is a mistake.

Likelihood to be married after 2 previous partners drops 41% for women, according to data from the National Survey of Family Growth.

If you go into the archive and check in pro-MGTOW threads and ctrl+f "roastie", you'll receive tons of hits. Don't bullshit me.

QUADS DON'T LIE - CHECKED AND GONE MGTOW

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>posting pictures of yourself on Sup Forums

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I don't even know why you guys bother to make these threads, it's just going to be full of two types of people:

>lol if you can't get a gf you are a fat ugly loser, also divorce laws aren't real, a real man is psychic and can mind rape a woman into submission so that he doesn't get screwed over by the shitty courts! lol losers, I don't have time to explain how all of this makes sense, have fun being losers while I got fuck my 6 gfs, losers! lol!!1!
and
>Fucking roasties REEEE all women are coalburning whores! Gas all women, gender war now REEEEE! Have you bought a Nintendo switch yet!? REEEEE McDonalds doesn't have the McRib anymore REEEEE!!!

You will never find objective discussion here, it's either mangina wannabe chads who don't know shit about reality or shut-ins who hate the world and also don't know shit about reality, these reasons are the same reasons these issues will never be solved on a national scale, this same stupid bullshit happens every day everywhere, here is no different.

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Tits or GTFO. Many people use the word roastie without being MGTOW. I ain't even MGTOW yet I'm here. You're point is disproven.

I'm 32. I don't know about your health problems, but if you're having trouble throwing a ball around at 29, that doesn't sound good. My father's in his early 60s and he's still running half-marathons. Maybe you need to drink more water or take a vitamin or something.

2 or 3...or 5
yeah nah.
If they held sex is such low regard to pass it out to anyone who makes them feel special that month rather than someone who they think they could spend their life with and really worked hard to stay with them (protip: In long term relationships, women end it. Not the men. Men end short relationships. Women end long relationships)

So it just goes to show you that all it would take was for her being schmoozed up by some loser at her part-time retail job she just HAD to have and she's getting raw dogged in the handicap stall in the back. Why? Because who emotional response alone was enough to spread her legs. Not emotional response + long term plans. Yes, I am indeed holding woman to a standard that they have to be thinkers as well as feelers.

This. I just come here for the keks and to laugh at people's pain on both sides.

>I don't know about your health problems, but if you're having trouble throwing a ball around at 29, that doesn't sound good.
yeah actually, I'm not the healthiest to be honest.
Had to have my gallbladder removed and a bunch of other stuff.

OP has a great spin on today's version of La MGTOW thread.

Women have revealed how utterly fucking selfish they are. We have a society with all kinds of goodies and they've been enjoying that for quite some time. We know it's going to collapse. So there's not better time to "Stop Giving a Shit" and enjoy some of those goodies.

It's like a great release of pain; pressure and responsibility to Give Up. We'll all die one day but it will be nice knowing that we had a ton of fun instead of wasting all our effort to save the Sick Society and all the Worthless Parasite Cunts who have manipulated us.

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its only on Sup Forums
rl people are all oblivious normies

>Number of marriages by unmarried women....
Inception!

How was his comment horseshoe? He drew a comparison between two similar groups.
You're the one who used a meme argument instead of thinking, so back to re ddit I guess?

>60-year-old MGTOW
>Spent 40 years at IT job
>Plenty of money, buy expensive house and car and travel the world
>Wealth dries up
>Spend next 15 years alone, facing poor health, no legacy, and the inevitability of death
>j-joke's on them, I enjoy being alone. Fuck women.
MGTOW is like the male version of women who don't want kids. Sounds like a great, liberating decision when you're young and angry, but when you're past your prime and life starts to take its toll on you, the material bullshit you're chasing now is going to be your biggest regret. MGTOW is a recipe for suicide.

>You will never find objective discussion here

Sure you do. Old fags like myself come in all the time and answer earnest questions. You have to weed through all the tradcon/incel shills and infographics and you can get a good bead on what is going on in society. The gender war is only part of it. Society is in collapse and everybody looks for a boogyman to blame. The truth is that there are many causes. But most of all, Empires simply collapse in time. It's a natural cycle.

this but still funny

Yeah, MGTOW blows. So does marrying used goods. There's no good option here.

>that image
fucking KEK
Sup Forums in a nutshell

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Until the modern times, womyn were not so demanding. A man could be MGTOW even if married, he could go hunting , exploring , or fucking wild bitches. As long as he left the wife and children money to have a decent living.

Try doing this to a cunt today. She will cheat on you, divorce you and leave you without your children and any money.
Marriage how turned shit, this is the real red pill

MGTOW is the lesser of two evils then.

Because they're polar opposites, not two ends of the shame horseshoe. MGTOW is fundamentally reactionary, and feminism is fundamentally revolutionary. If you weren't a politically illiterate retard, you'd know those two things couldn't possibly be further apart.

>past your prime and life starts to take its toll on you

It's much more subtle than that. I'm an old fag past my prime. I've realized that my best years are behind me. I've been in great reflection as of late.

Often I pose the question, "What if I tried to save my marriage?" or "What if we had kids?" and sometimes I want to believe I would have been fulfilled by that. But I look around at men who are married and honestly, I see broken men; beaten down; cucked. My coworker told me the other day, "He had to go Potty". That was so wretched to hear. Most have to relent and say, "Yeah I guess guns are bad and niggers are good." just to shut their wives up.

The point is, staying married in today's society is staying married to the Sick Society. Your wife is CONSTANTLY being indoctrination by TV shows; Movies; Social Media; (((Education))); Female Magazines. And you constantly have to fight that. I remember how fucking beat down I was when married. I realize how FREE I am now. I am truly my own man.

And so, I know honestly a woman won't make me happy. We are in a Matriarchy now. How can a woman make me happy? She is only a liability. So I have lonely moments. But I have enjoyed talking to people in the Chans. I have my hobbies. I have my dreams of building a cabin; having a garden and some horses. And I try to interact with people as much as I can...even on the Chans. If you gather an "understanding" in life, it's easier to die. I can honestly tell you I learned more post-divorce than all the 9 years being married. That is when I fully Red Pilled.

>MGTOW is like the male version of women who don't want kids

But women are biologically and psychologically compelled toward motherhood, they instinctively NEED it to experience it to feel complete and contented, which is the reason why so many "liberated" femwhore roasties spend their twilight years as miserable, bitter cat-hoarders. Men, as a whole, are not afflicted with such a biosocial prerogative.

>Id rather fuck my hand , a sex robot or a prostitute than being in a relationship.
I dunno if I'd go THAT far.. However, I was under the impression that in the Jewnited States, govt provides everything womens needs, so men are no longer required when womens can just play house on all the free $ and other free shit they get, pretending they did it all by themselves somehow. I don't really have an for or against opinion on MGTOW. Is it a white only thing? I see more than a few coon MGTOW vids on jewtube.

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I'M GOING MY OWN WAY

FUCK OFF ROASTIE

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This is pretty much where I stand. I'm not a virgin, I'm not some hideous incel, I'm just an average normal guy who can see that everything is falling to shit. Fucking hell, if you point out that there is literally ANYTHING wrong with modern relationships and dating, then you get bombarded with "YOU ARE UGLY, AND LONLEY, AND WILL DIE ALONE HAHAHAHA VIRGIN LOSER"

Fuck off roasties, we didn't cause this, we didn't want this, and we are the ones who will adapt, and ultimately be ok.

Roasties eternaly BTFO, and same with whiteknights

MGTOW is eternally victorious.

Stay mad cucks.

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It's kind of funny how the cartoon shows the white guy with his arm around the white girl and suggest...

>See? Happily Ever After

....and then the rest of the cartoon is going out of the way to demonize MGTOW as a negative idea.

There is one subtle detail of MGTOW that I try to elaborate on when I post. Most on the Chans are fairly young 18-25 year-olds. But old fags are in here too.

There are many stages to a man's life. A man who has been around for 40 years does have "a bit" of wisdom. That is the gift of time. So yeah, many people who talk about MGTOW have had plenty of sex; have been married and may have even had kids.

There are incels in here too that use MGTOW as a crutch to not try in life. I'll give that. Any type of ideality attracts these types of people who look for an excuse in life. In reality MGTOW encourages good health; lifting and hobbies as a means to escape pussy addiction.

Further yet, there are open-minded young men who are on the verge of making a huge life decision in marriage and it's those men that the old fags like me are trying to warn....or at least give a body of knowledge to them so they can make a solid decision. That is something I didn't have and I got Royally Fucked by not having that knowledge.

>The only reason you losers concur with the idea of MGTOW is because you're all ugly, brokeass, boring incel neets with no ambition and no future prospects. Women aren't the problem, YOU are!

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I believe they are boomerfags who need this last one wave of meat into the grinder from others so that they can ensure the world doesnt collapse before they are dead. And after that they dont give a shit about what happens.

TLDR Someone add a boomer in this pic.

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whore

>MGTOW being loud and obnoxious, bragging about their philosophical revelation in public like that
wew that cartoon is already completely wrong.

>TLDR Someone add a boomer in this pic.
Try to pick a bald Boomer driving a Miata with a bread belly and an Izod shirt with a feminine pattern his wife picked out.

Basically all Boomers.

>It is too late to stop them now

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Cover up your face and give a time stamp. Who the fuck is gonna dox you, and for what reason?

Fucking lol. What a toxic human you are. Go work on yourself for the next 10 years straight, then come back here and post again.

You shouldn't

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Colour me saged, it's this thread again. Literally no one with an IQ above 90 cares if you want to reproduce or not. Kys for making this boring slide thread every single day.

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As little as possible.

The "Modern Female" meme is a jewish ploy too as well.. It will put you on their plantations so fast. Now you are their cotton pickin nig. Work all day and give all the value away to landowners producers and gov and banks. What are they left with 0. Survive work and give it all away

Great argument, nigger.

Any sort of leftist and many lurk here, it has been shown that people can be doxxed with very little information and winning an argument here isn't worth job loss