I got two hard atheist friends, one thinks God is "sky daddy" and never actually thinks philosophically because he refuses to do so and the other is straight up retarded. If you wanna know how retarded, he failed high school and thinks Birdman: the unexpected virtues... is a superhero flick and "spiderman was better".
Why are atheists so stupid?
Isaac Cook
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Dylan Walker
You're conflating two unrelated things my dude. There are plenty of intelligent theists and atheists.
Likewise, most humans in general have borderline functional IQs.
Hudson Sanchez
>Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
If you think that people who believe that everything some random book says is automatically true are less stupid than those who require evidence for that assertion there's clearly something wrong with you.
Carson Allen
OP your post makes you seem like an idiot in about seven different ways...
Ayden Gomez
fucking lol the void head people. where their thoughts just infinitely disappear into a black hole of extreme cognitive dissonance
Andrew Scott
Elon Musk is stupid? Or you can't understand why he doesn't believe what you do, so you assume it's because he's stupid
Parker Perry
Easton Cox
Owen Rodriguez
Or maybe he's stupid on the philosophical questions but a good engineer and businessman. There's more than one type of IQ.
Michael Roberts
See
Owen Price
Because they're fucking parrots and pseudo intellectuals. Saying you believe in nothing doesn't make your IQ magically jump up fifty points.
Chase Torres
Fundamentalists who don't question anything are rare and using a book that gathers advice of multiple wise men gathered throughout a couple thousands of years of practical experience and meditation on metaphysics is not a stupid postion.
Christopher Perry
This sounds like a comforting way to view atheists if you're a Christian who is worried they might be right.
Jackson Green
Thats a non argument faggot. Or it would be an argument for a lefty.
"If someone said to you that jews are running the world and effectively enslaving us and you have to leave home to wage war for your freedom, what would be that person called?"
I can tell you: someone offering critical information.
Brayden Powell
Nope. I'm talking from experience. You fucks the are the furthest thing froom honest.
Josiah Garcia
>Thats a non argument faggot. Or it would be an argument for a lefty.
Neither of these are rebuttals. Calling someone a fag or a lefty doesn't explain how they're wrong.
Jesus did and said all of the things listed in the image you know.
>"If someone said to you that jews are running the world and effectively enslaving us and you have to leave home to wage war for your freedom, what would be that person called?"
That's Hitler not Jesus. You seem to be trying really hard to miss the point.
Brody Torres
I've had the opposite experience. I wonder if you followed the Dover trial?
In said trial it was proven to the satisfaction of a Christian judge and jury that the Christian defendants had lied about replacing every instance of "creation" in the "Of Pandas and People" textbook with "intelligent design".
The Christian bakers who claimed to be persecuted by a gay couple strategically left out the part where they doxxed the couple, leading to death threats and an eventual move out of the area.
The Christian claim that the Columbine shooters asked students if they believed in God and shot the ones who said yes was later proven to be a hoax by other survivors who said they never heard them ask any such thing.
The boy in "Heaven is for Real" later admitted making up the claims, coached by his parents, for the money.
Christians are the world's most prolific (and clumsy) liars
Juan Wilson
Xd that's what I mean by saying atheists are stupid. The meme you showed me can apply to anyone who has an important information or a call to arms that people need to hear. It applies to any person that wants the crowd to do something like Hitler or Churchill convincing people that they have to go to war or Socrates telling people to follow him and live virtuously. Can't you see the analogy? Thats not an argument faggot. And I'm not saying you're wrong because you're a faggot but that you're a faggot because you're wrong. The difference is between ad hominem logical fallacy and an expressed opinion. Kys.
James Taylor
>The meme you showed me can apply to anyone who has an important information or a call to arms that people need to hear
No, that's an over-generalization. The specific criteria listed there are things only cults do.
>faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot
Cool reasoning
Ethan King
>Because they're fucking parrots
I'm an atheist. How come we never get to fuck parrots?
Daniel Gomez
>Christians are the world's most prolific (and clumsy) liars
They doctored the words of Josephus and Tacitus. David Barton was completely discredited for fabricating quotes. Theists fall for lies and they spout lies. Dishonesty is their only nature.
David Bell
>Dover trial?
Never heard of your cherry picked shit.
>The Christian bakers who claimed to be persecuted by a gay couple strategically left out the part where they doxxed the couple, leading to death threats and an eventual move out of the area.
This?
patheos.com
While you ignore this for you narrative?
washingtontimes.com
>The Christian claim that the Columbine shooters asked students if they believed in God and shot the ones who said yes was later proven to be a hoax by other survivors who said they never heard them ask any such thing.
Just like they were never bullied right?
>The boy in "Heaven is for Real" later admitted making up the claims
Good for your narrative.
Jonathan Turner
"“Never do business with a religious son-of-a-bitch. His word ain't worth a shit -- not with the Good Lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal.” -William S Burroughs
Bentley Ward
>No, that's an over-generalization. The specific criteria listed there are things only cults do.
What the picture describes is a mix between a cult and a religion: very similar to platonism, pythagoreanism, buddism and in a broader sense and taking into consideration the historical context it's a call to action by an important figure like the examples I listed earlier. Jesus was teaching about the higher God while also considering himself a lesser God so it's not a cult.
Carson Gutierrez
I know, right? How are there people in 2018 who haven't yet accepted the love and grace of Saradomin?
Sebastian Jenkins
>"random book"
Riiiight. It's just a random book. It's absolutely not one of the oldest and passed along collections of stories and knowledge humans have put together and reflected on/debated/considered. Nope, it's a random book.
Evan Adams
agreed.
Christians are spiritual kikes
Grayson Wilson
To add to the dyke thing, this happened after the request to bake their stupid fucking cake.
Ayden King
>Never heard of your cherry picked shit.
I could fill a hundred libraries with stuff you've never heard of.
>While you ignore this for you narrative?
Ignore what? That they won the court case? I never thought they should have to bake the cake. That isn't the issue here. The issue is their own wrongdoing which they omitted from their own account to make themselves look better.
>Just like they were never bullied right?
Google "Cassie Bernall hoax" and choose any source you want.
>Good for your narrative.
Indeed, Christian liars do bolster my narrative that Christians are liars
Mason Williams
You're not wrong about topical ignorance, but you're completely wrong about IQ. There is only one measure for IQ, and it cannot be broken into "special" categories.
David Baker
>so it's not a cult.
If you separate people from their belongings so it's harder for them to leave if they begin to have doubts, change their name and consider them unworthy if they don't love the leader more than their own family, that's a cult.
Isaac Price
There is atheism and there is atheism. A simple non-belief in God is one thing; unfortunately many modern-day "atheists" turn it into a belief system, including some or all of: theists have a low IQ; all wars are caused by religion; religion is purely a means of social control; atheists are better and more moral people; and so on. I don't believe in a personal God myself, but I'd never join any of these atheist "movements" that exist on the internet.
Nathan Williams
any source on that?
Jayden Cooper
>Ignore what?
State enforced homosexuality while propping up your precious faggots, claiming they "dindu nuffin"
>Indeed, Christian liars do bolster my narrative that Christians are liars
Of course. You miscontrue purposelly.
Kevin Cooper
>unfortunately many modern-day "atheists" turn it into a belief system
Only according to Christians, Muslims and the like
Colton Baker
Read to the end of the post, dumbass
Blake Howard
>State enforced homosexuality
Haha, what?
>while propping up your precious faggots, claiming they "dindu nuffin"
What the fuck are you on about
>Of course. You miscontrue purposelly.
Not according to the Christian judge and jury who found the defense guilty in Dover vs. Kitzmiller
Michael Lopez
No, you aren't important enough for that.
Brandon King
Connor Hill
You're assuming secret ntentions that there is no evidence for.
Grayson Carter
Michael Ramirez
Yes. It's a random book. Harry Potter is another random book. It's currently ALSO being used religiously.
Luis Nelson
You certainly seem smart yourself friendo
Benjamin Ross
>You're assuming secret ntentions that there is no evidence for.
This is like saying I technically can't prove the Nigerian prince who emailed you for help moving his fortune out of the country is a fraud. It's true, I can't absolutely prove that. But if you were able to recognize the anatomy of different kinds of scam, I wouldn't have to.
Andrew Thomas
>theists have a low IQ
theists come in all creeds
>all wars are caused by religion
all wars are fought over power
>religion is purely a means of social control
In a great part, centralized religion is.
>atheists are better and more moral people
See IQ
t. Agnostic
Levi Martin
Soviet Russia turned churches into "Museums of Atheism". Atheism can clearly be a belief system, in fact many so-called atheists feel so strongly about it that one can't help feeling that their position isn't actually non-belief in God, but an active hostility to God, not to religion but to God himself in an almost Luciferian style. I think particularly of Philip Pullman, as well as the obvious Richard Dawkins. They spend more time and effort on their atheism than most theists do on their religion.
Gavin Sullivan
Sure, that's Communism. I am unsure how you're going from there to "all atheism is Communism" though
Evan Harris
/thread
John Bennett
Atheists have reptile brains.
If the reptile cannot SEE something, it doesn't exist.
William Long
That's because that isn't what I said, read the rest of the post if you think I'm important enough
Landon Bailey
It isn't just about sight, but any other means of detection.
If I tell you I have an amazing huge penis but it's invisible, intangible and undetectable, isn't it likely I gave it those contrived attributes just to prevent you from being able to definitively disprove my claim?
There's also being able to recognize an end of the world cult that grew out of control:
Adam Reyes
Most are reacting to American Protestantism which typically claims God is a Genie who pals around with you in between burgers.
They don't have a concept of historically what a god is and represents, and certainly have no grasp of Catholic/Orthodox mysticism
They believe they're smart because they are smart compared to DA EARF IS A HINNIT YEARS OLD protestants, but that's not saying anything.
Kayden Lewis
>Soviet Russia turned churches into "Museums of Atheism"
Source: his ass.
Whatever they failed to blow up, they used as storages.
Joseph Rivera
I don't, you belong in a landfill.
Chase Peterson
Shove it up your ass nigger
en.wikipedia.org
Dylan Jackson
Nice to see you professional Atheists haven't changed your ways. I don't believe, but I'm not an asshole about it.
John Morgan
So atheists claim oxygen doesn't exist?
Or do (some) theists claim the earth is flat and only a few thousand years old?
Luis Sanchez
You seem to imply there's an intelligent, defensible form of Christianity.
Muslim scholars believe there exists an intelligent, defensible form of Islam.
In either case they've both had centuries upon centuries to concoct sophisticated apologetics fleshing out the details of their beliefs and defenses of them.
If those detailed defenses make Christianity true, do the Muslim equivalents make Islam true?
Or is it the case that any sufficiently old religion has had the benefit of generation upon generation of their brightest few struggling to make sense of and defend the source material against skeptics?
What is remarkable about that? What part of it makes any religion more credible?
William Perez
No, you're a Christian who comes on here and pretends not to be for credibility when bashing atheists. Back to your Sonic drawings and tendies now.
Jonathan Williams
cucked
Landon Flores
>considering himself a lesser God
>it's not a cult.
You can only pick one, David Koresh.
Levi Richardson
Hahahaha, what a fucking knobhead. You don't have to be a Christian to support Christianity, look at Charles Maurras. Fedoras like you are actually religion's best friends, you make all atheists look bad, I should leave you alone. You see atheism as a key part of your identity, I can't think of anything more pathetic. If you don't believe, just don't believe and get on with your life. I don't like broccoli so I don't eat it, I don't go on demos against it or post online saying that anybody who likes it is a moron. It's not as if you live in some sort of theocracy where being an atheist is somehow brave and edgy, quite the reverse.
Luke Fisher
I know a lot of religious people who are incredibly stupid - would you take this as evidence that religion is stupid? Of course there are stupid atheists, but that shouldn't reflect on atheism itself. Is your assertion that there are no intelligent atheists, and no stupid religious people? Otherwise you have some explaining to do.
Julian Roberts
>I don't like broccoli so I don't eat it, I don't go on demos against it or post online saying that anybody who likes it is a moron.
#aveganism
Jason Moore
Woah buddy don't blow your load.
Authentic euchiminism from a Catholic prospective would suggest it is certainly possible for a Muslim (or anyone) to achieve salvation insofar as they have authentically tried their hardest to come to know God in a divine sense.
The justification for this goes back to how spiritual expression had always been understood for centuries; that the material plane is a projection or shadow of a deeper manifestation, and this mysteriousness is come to be known and expressed a myriad of ways. All authentic spiritualisms are united in their desire to come to know the divine nature of reality.
I'm not a mason but you should listen to some Manly P Hall regarding the occult or history of spiritualism.
Higher forms of spiritual expression have come to be alien in our post "enlightenment" culture. Religions trying to play along with modernism don't help the cause of their spiritual betters, and that's for certain.
Easton Wood
I used to have a friend on FB who was a member of a group called "Proud Athiests" (and yes, it was spelt like that). Any decent -sized group will have its share of brainlets.
Gabriel Butler
>"Why are atheists so stupid?"
>"Here's muh anecdote of my two retarded friends who are in a flock with me!"
You don't even know what atheism is, so why are you trying to attack it? Atheism doesn't claim that there is no God. It's the lack of faith.
Caleb Phillips
>There is atheism
Non-belief in gods
>and there is atheism.
Non-belief in gods
>unfortunately many modern-day "atheists" turn it into a belief system
Fabricated men filled with straw
> theists have a low IQ
Statistically proven
>all wars are caused by religion
Many wars. Religion is specifically a weapon of war.
--->People who kill only because they don't have any gods?
Zero.
--->People who kill to please their gods?
Millions.
>religion is purely a means of social control
Men make morals. Then some evil men fabricated gods to enforce their man-made morals. They preyed upon the fears and ignorance of the weak-minded to keep primitive men enslaved in submission.
Religions have tortured, maimed and put millions to death for refusing to believe in their irrational nonsense. Not content with simply following their own dogma, believers insist on imposing their beliefs on others by way of law. Religions have been used for millennia to control people. All the kingdoms, some of which still exist today, are based on the notion that the king is god's vicar on Earth, the divine ruler, the man other men cannot question without fear of invoking god's wrath.
Religion forces you to love some fictional entity who you fear, who can presumably smote you where you stand for disobedience. You are forced to follow blindly the commands of these gods, which somehow always benefits a small group of privileged men. Religion is a systemic exploitation crafted by the wealthy and powerful to produce lifelong slaves of formerly moral human beings. Religion tricks you into believing you can't be moral without religion. It cons you into imagining that some reward after death is superior to this one precious life you have on Earth.
Anyone can see how these immoral religious systems have done far more harm than good.
> atheists are better and more moral people
Pic related.
James Russell
Too stupid to comprehend what omnipotence means.
Test people who believe in Atheism on this; ask them if they'd want to live forever and be invulnerable to harm.
I've never met a hard atheist who said no, because they have absolutely no concept or grasp on just how long forever or even a million years would be. "A million" just seems like another number to them and they don't stop to think that they'd probably be insane bashing their head nonstop for years against the ground trying to die after the first five hundred.
Luis Sanchez
>I don't like broccoli so I don't eat it, I don't go on demos against it or post online saying that anybody who likes it is a moron.
We're not discussing broccoli. Allowing a cult to swell until it absorbs most of humanity is perverse.
>You don't have to be a Christian to support Christianity, look at Charles Maurras
You are, though.
>Fedoras like you are actually religion's best friends, you make all atheists look bad
If you're overly concerned how the opposition sees you, you'll get nowhere. I don't want them to like me, I want them dead.
>It's not as if you live in some sort of theocracy where being an atheist is somehow brave and edgy, quite the reverse.
You're projecting all kinds of attitudes onto me that aren't my own. I am unsure where you get this shit from. Why are you like this?
Austin Kelly
John Gray
>Atheism can clearly be a belief system
Then it's suddenly not atheism, is it?
>an active hostility to God
The English and Greek word for that is "anti-theism". You probably don't have advanced words like that in your country.
Wyatt Moore
No no no just no. There’s atheism and then there’s agnosticism. Atheists are the ones who always say “you die and then that’s it, you’re dead in the dirt”. That quote is a shitty bullshit swerve to make atheism not look as retarded as it is.
Agnosticism is saying you don’t know. There could or could not be forces that exist outside the universe.
Julian Baker
>I'm not an asshole about it.
You're always the last to know.
Jaxson Richardson
>Authentic euchiminism from a Catholic prospective would suggest it is certainly possible for a Muslim (or anyone) to achieve salvation insofar as they have authentically tried their hardest to come to know God in a divine sense.
You're missing the point of my post here. It did not express concern about Muslim access to salvation. How could you possibly get that from what I wrote? Instead it was an explanation of how more sophisticated forms of a religion are not somewhow more true or credible
James Kelly
>Fedoras like you are actually religion's best friends, you make all atheists look bad,
So your only measure of well-founded belief is charisma and popular culture? How tragically pathetic and sad.
Alexander Murphy
>>Atheism can clearly be a belief system
>Then it's suddenly not atheism, is it?
Why? You can believe in things other than gods, user.
Elijah Ortiz
>Museum of the History of religion and atheism
Why did you leave that part out?
Julian Brown
>There’s atheism and then there’s agnosticism.
I know.
See I'm agnostic myself. I believe that there could/might be a "higher power/system" that we cannot fathom and likely will not ever be able to perceive.
Adrian Walker
>There’s atheism
Non-belief in gods
>then there’s agnosticism
An impossible position. Gods are supernatural beings - one cannot "know" about them, because if one could, the beings would no longer be supernatural - they'd be a fact. Gods, fairies, werewolves, ghosts, leprechauns, vampires, mummies, pixies, Santa Clauses and Ishtar Bunnies exist outside our plane of knowledge. They cannot be known or unknown, therefore cannot be gnostic or agnostic.
Gabriel Nelson
Sure, esoterics can be redundant and sometimes not very useful.
Lucas Sanders
Oh fuck, another anecdote!
Anyways, Christianity's war on homosexuality has always been pretty retarded and boils down to "it's not Adam and Steve lululuul!
Michael Brooks
This pretty much. Basically Kunning_Kreuger effect, they dont know enough to know how much they don't know.
Jaxon Murphy
Fuck off and kill yourself Christcuck
Henry Cooper
Why is your religion correct out of the thousands that have existed?
Billions of good people in Asia didn't believe in your religion. Are they all wrong?
Why is Islam and Judaism wrong?
Can you justify all the plagiarism in the bible?
Isn't it fair to surmise that the lack of originality of the bible doesn't helps its case as being truth?
Levi Thomas
>Basically Kunning_Kreuger effect
It's Dunning-Kruger, you stupid mutt.
Landon Sanchez
I'm atheist because I don't need to rely on a higher power, nor is there any proof for one.
Alexander Scott
Anyone who has ever researched IQ, ever, and isn't a pseudo spouting feel good nonsense.
danielmiessler.com
I use this because he sums it up, and cites a million academic papers you won't read, and that I haven't. I have simply heard academics clarify this on numerous forums. Even the Weinstein bros have said this.
Adam Johnson
*unintelligible butthurt*
Julian Kelly
>Why? You can believe in things other than gods
Sure, atheist can believe in things, but by definition, they simply cannot believe in gods because that is the only disqualifier. Atheism is not a belief system, because it is only based on non-belief in gods. This is a rational position that requires no belief.
Beliefs are irrational, otoh. Theists know this, and it's why theists perpetually try to rationalize their irrational beliefs.
The Marketplace of Ideas weeds out the bad ideas in favor of the good ones. It is the mental meritocracy. Lies, deceptions and fallacies deserve no respect here. So we come here to Sup Forums to make fun of the people who fall for lies. Some of it is schadenfreude, but it mostly to combat the poisoned rationality that threatens our world.
Grayson Foster
>source
>some blog
lol
Jaxson Howard
OP the reason atheists are so lost is their lack of basic foundation for their existential crisis as to " how does everything stay orderly " which those of faith such as you understand , and we are each safer to be thankful that theism of anykind is surviving while we await the Post-Secular World .
Gabriel Allen
>sky daddy
Well, that certainly is one way of describing the source on which all things depend. If it were a finite, three dimensional, Euclidean entity, I doubt it would appreciate your friend's condescension, however. How fortunate for him.
Jeremiah Hughes
Heisenberg never said that either. It was mis-attributed to him in a Nazi-era German publication, but he was frequently the target of propaganda by the world's most famous war criminals.
Josiah Cox
>Atheism is not a belief system, because it is only based on non-belief in gods
Absence of belief is not equivalent to belief in absence, brainlet. Your conception of "atheism" is more akin to anti-theism. Atheists simply do not give a shit one way or the other.
Bentley Brooks
Please Jesus give me trips. I want to believe.
Caleb Richardson
>pseudo spouting
Wow, you guys are really good at making shit up, but this is taking it to a whole new depth of intellectual depravity
Ian Green
Atheists don't actually care for science or logic. Take notice of how many push scientific half-truths and lies to advance the leftist agenda. They worship "science" until it goes into the politically incorrect such as the truth to climate change, race, gender, etc. Don't be fooled, though. Christcucks are beasts themselves; worshiping the Jewish energy matrix (the abrahamic god doesn't exist as a being, but as the collective unconscience of the Jewish people) and deny ALL of science (aka the real creator's work).
Gavin Brooks
kike gtfo