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Whats the situation like in Spain and Portugal? Are they being swarmed by "refugees" or are they not taking any in? Can Spain be grouped in with the likes of Britain and Sweden? or Italy and Poland? or are they a different beast all together?

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Hell yes, nice job. What about Spain?

We have not taken many refugees but we have a problem with immigration.

God they are dangerously close to wakanda, thank god niggers can't swim and are to stupid to develop boats

The refugees even complain of the situation. I remember to watch a report of some Syrian restaurant in Lisbon with Syrian refugees workers and the brother and worker there saying that it was more easy to sustain himself and his family in Egypt than in Portugal.

What MATTERS MOST is the immigration law changed in the last summer and other working agreements - legal immigrants and illegal immigrants - not the few immigrants coming for raperefugee way - 1500 half escaped - with 9000 (goal proposed by the Prime-Minister).

We must take account high naturalization rates above of European Union average too - >>. And other ways to get nationality: descendant of a jew expelled here, goan indians born until 1861 and descendants, east timorenses born until 2002 and descendants, grandchildren of Portuguese diaspora, etc.

We have an immigration problem too like fJSqpqJa 's country.

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Quads for a great post.
so Portugal is in trouble along with Spain? is the government cucked or is it fine just doesnt know how to handle the influx

express.co.uk/news/world/839298/Spain-migrant-crisis-European-Union-Europe-holiday-South-of-Spain-latest-news-video

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literally refugees not want to go to iberia

nice digits

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we are fucked in different ways, bbc.com/news/magazine-21631427 for example + rampant leftism but as you can see here
these guys want the pajeets etc to come over, but they just don't want to stay, it's a weird position to be in, country is still beautiful at least

eh wrong link, that's for spain, but jews been invited back to portugal too

They're too much in crisis to be an attractive destination for foreigners

13.85% of our population is foreign.

>so Portugal is in trouble along with Spain
I don't know each trouble and how much is the trouble with Spain.

The govt and corporates want more consumers, debt slaves (and payer) specially when we have a more aggravated demographic crisis than our european neighbours and money.
archive.is/2GnHQ
They even wanted a Schengen Area with African Kangz and Brasil at some point.
bbc.com/portuguese/noticias/2015/12/151217_portugal_circulacao_paises_rm

North Africans are white

>13.85% of our population is foreign.
And did that happen after 2008 crash?

It's the most recent data so yes.

> The truth about Portugal

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>Antifa are the best organized group
>every fucking woman is a radical feminist
>saying even that gay marriage is not cool can get you imprisoned
>your life is destroyed by antifa thugs (almost 45% of the youth) if you dare to disagree
>the left doesn't stop saying that spanish goverment is ULTRAFASCIST because its not stalinist
> imposible to get a job without connections
> imposible to start a bushiness, the loan takes the 50% of your income and taxes takes the other 50% ( not joking)
>worst educative system in the hole Europe, almost every young men and women has a degree although they almost didn't know the fucking alphabet
> the education thing causes a saturation of labour market of titulated inept people
> Working at Mc' Donals is considered a heaven here, only people with connections, hypertitulated engineers and girls that like to fuck ( literally ) everyone but specially their boss, has access to Mc'donals tier jobs. The rest is simply bangladeshy tier work if you are lucky to find a job
>the most corrupt goverment in the hole western world. They keep the educational system shitty and easy to pillaje the money of the family of the students and to make the labour market perfect for high monopolist and bankers who are friends with the goverment
> if you form part of the political class or you are a friend of them, if you want you can rape a little baby and then decapitate him and the legal system will do nothin
> The left is worst than in 1936
>if you sell mein kampf in an exact translation you get imprisoned
>the goverment has censored books talking about the connection of the ruling class and mafia ( especially drug dealers ) because obviously they are full of shit
>legal thingd can take you years because of bureaucracy
>denounced for violating human rights because if you are men and spanish you have nothing legal to do, somebody can do a Snuff video with you and nobody will do nothing)


Spain sounds like a paradise

Broadly speaking they dont go anywhere near the Catholic nations as soon as they can escape them if enter at all. Catholics dont tolerate muslims or jews broadly in the old world, and much fresher picking in the northern nations.

>Leftist cry about the refugee quotas of Merkel because EVEN REFUGEES DON'T WANT TO COME HERE AND PREFER TO STAY IN THE MISERY OF THEIR COUNTRIES

not to mention mostly catholic

i can't speak for my compatriots, but i have a deep, deep hatred for the muslims. I though studying history would make me more open to them (as it did for the spanish, french, and for the roman empire). In fact it had the opposite effect. I now hate them with a burning passion. Whenever i see my city's mosque all i think is how i wish i could tear it down and erase it from existance

stupidity. english retirees in marbella

When i heard about the free movement between the Portuguese speaking countries i though: Brazilians are going to love this shit
But then 90% of the Brazilians in the comment were complaining about it.

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thats over bro. crisis in iberia doesnt mean much. ..ancient nation

I don't know how they feel about muslims, but i know for sure that they have deep understanding of how nogs are a real menace.

Iberia without the hispanic monarchy rule = constant crisis and civil war

bruh, youre missing the fact that you live in a dank as fuck country that is not a burger meatbag shithole like the USA is, even the veneer of luxury in the US is tainted with shit, shitty people!!!!
At least Spain is what it is. Im tryna live there and start a farm, you should learn some skills instead of whining like a bitch

Then I'm surprised because I don't understand how somebody who wants to earn money would go to Spain instead of Germany, Sweden or Britain

non-European migrants are 8.44% of the population. European migrants are only the 4.71%.
And European migrants are not much better anyway.

you are a bit off on that . Angolan oil money is pouring into Portugal. these are the first Europeans to understand Africans. prejudice is not so great absent islam tribes.

I was once in spain for 2 weeks.
Great time, great people.
Everyone should visit this great country once in his life.
The food, the places, the company.
Great stuff anons!

>Iberia without the hispanic monarchy rule = constant crisis and civil war
Iberia has exactly the same problem as Poland, that is a conflict between traditionalists and afrancesados. Same goes for Mexico. Constant friction between catholics and bolsheviks / freemasonry

thanks you peasant freak kraut bastard... the beach ?

There are little similarities between portugal and poland.

Yes, Spain has hordes of nafri migrants and other native genocidal diaplacement population ochaeastrated by the EU, everyone knows the only race that has a right to protect itself are Jews.

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We are fucked, we have received few" refugees,but immigration didn´t stopped in the past 35 years, we have received hundreds of thousands of africans, indians,chinese, brazilian mutts. And ofc our natality rates are small, Portugal has 15-20 years to change or it'sthe end of our european identity and therefore it's the end of Portugal

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Retornados - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processo_Revolucionário_Em_Curso#The_retornados - (similar to Algerian French pied-noirs) are really redpilled about the Nigs Nogs some of the Kangz terrorists that were even financed by CIA / JFK specially Holden's Roberto FNLA.

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Jews purged thousand years ago. Heres some jamon ..jews be like

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There are a lot actually

Especially this conflict between "Ilustrados" modernizers and catholics. Iberia since Enlightenment is a constant cold civil war between catholics and nihilists

Carlist wars in Spain were basically wars in defence of catholicism. Bar Confederacy in Poland-Lithuania was something similar

>Learn some skills
>try to start a bushiness
>Don't have connections so I cannot make money to start it
>somehow get the money
>start the bushiness
>work 14 hours per day
>Earn 1500 euros counting the spending on manteinance and materials
> the goverment takes 750 euros in taxation
> the loan takes 300 euros
> you are only left with 450 euros, you cannot even aford to live single
> a house is cheaper in miami than in Barcelona for example
> die of hunger or live with your parents all of your life
> you still cannot work because of 0 industry and you need connections so you can't even get the money to ask for a loan

I am just whining, this is a paradise

STAND UP FOR YOURSELF

Portugal has a hatful of Muslims and the rapefugees they sent there ran away back to Germany because there is no gibs.

Half of Lisbon is nignog town though.

Half of south Portugal has been colonised by the Saxonoids.

Meanwhile much of northern Portugal is traditional white Utopia and freedom land.

Sometimes

youtube.com/watch?v=1mnagRmzYTw

but our anti immigration party is growing but too slow.

sounds to me like your problem is operating on the system

learn how to be someone who is skilled! don't start a tree trimming company, work as a tree trimmer. eat some humble pie, senpai, you're blaming all your own inadequacies financially on OTHERS when it is simply that your choices haven't worked out how you thought they would. i lived in Spain for 8 years as a kid, and I can tell you that it is your fault you are in debt. It is your own fault that you have chosen to play into this rigged fucking game that is society, man.
live out of your merit, i.e. DO WHAT WORKS instead of what you are wishing will work. do what you're best at instead of what you've chosen to be doing!!!!!!!

Do you REALLY think non-college educated millennials in USA have it any different than you????? We have it worse bruh get on my level USA is way more subyuman.

Not as based as us.
Pic related, we might as well all be wearing little swastikas.

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its not necessary in the first sea faring nation. Portugal and Brazil align for average prosperity. Angola. Just play cool and your allright.

Growing into what?
Division between NOS and PNR if PNR gets legalized and flight of votes into voto util do CDS/PP.

Plus these motards fights that Mainstream media reports and that involves right-wing figures like NOS founder and motard Mário Machado tainting even more.

I'll vote for PNR but those people in those organizations aren't helping and care more about motard fights.

ireland nooooo, why are the irish suddenly cucked

I didn´t see anything about pnr in those motards fights between our far right. But don´t ilude yourself, the media will always and always speak bad things about nationalism, always, they work for the globalists.

cds-pp = psd = pcp = ps = be

We don´t want anything with those old colonies, in fact they a treat to our country and to all europa. I think spainbro'sagree with me on that subject

I was thinking of taking a 10 day trip to Portugal.

I would fly into Barcelona then take the train to lisbon.

I then want to go up to guimaraes.

Any other things I should do in northern portugal

Why doesn't Salvini take care of his own business?

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stop taking dick in your ass you bitch ass pedo

He's just saying that because he knows it grates on the EU. I doubt he actually gives a shit about spain.

Men I just was telling you what options you have here in Spain. Simply an american don't have to pay the 45-50% of his earnings in taxation, and has access to work, there the unemployment rate is at 34%, the only people that doesn't have connections in this country

You cannot start any kind of bushiness
Studying is a waste of money because of overtitulation
You need luck, a good bj technic and connections to find a job and you will still earn 700 euros for 13 hours of work, impossible to start a family for example
For one reason there is an enormous Spanish diaspora along the hole Europe, and its this. You simply almost cannot survive here.

You can't expect Salvini to not support Catalan aspirations for independence, he is or at least WAS a Padanian separatist himself.

I'm aware, no wonder they didn't get any votes from the south... and they won't get them.

I have to add that Spain is irrecognizable, you lived here when the fruits of a construction bubble here where good, when we had lots of european investments... now we are fucked up to a state of an almost near second civil war

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>second civil war
We can only hope.

>saved

When it comes to Portugal it's not so black and white. Throughout many of the bigger cities in the north, mainly Coimbra and Porto, you would be hard-pressed to find many muslims. Having lived there a couple years back, I can say that the main non- European migrant groups are coming from Portugal's ex colonies such as Angola, Mozambique, Cape Verde, and Brazil (mainly mullatos). Unfortunately, many of these recent arrivals have taken to emulating African American "culture" and as a result much of the public housing facilities are riddled with want to be gangbangers.

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Some are, but the majority got blacked by Arabs and Maurs

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North african whites:
>Eurafricanids
>Transmediterranids
>berberids

North african mutts

>Everyone else

that s not the same of muslim. happens all over the world.

niggerville id imagine

Thanks krautbro. If you havent visited canarias, be ready for the hottest women in yojr fucking live. We dont have the same quality products as the motherland because obvious reasons (we are a bunch of mountain peaks, barely any land) but its a beautixul place. Shame about the music culture because we could have something infinetely better with our timple guitar roots influencing it, but we got jewed.

Also end your days here. We could use your shekels and for an old person having 24 c all day long all the year its paradise.

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Don't listen to this muyayo, you probably will be robbed, insulted and physically damaged by the small butter knife of a shitskin junkie robber

Worked in Algeria (Alger, Oran) some years ago as an expat. Most of them look like Arabs. Real Berbers are quite rare nowadays, the only white Berbers I've seen are Kabyles from Sidi Bel Abes like pic related.

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I'm not seeing, it sorry. At least, I'm not seeing anything unique to Portugal and Poland. What you said is applicable to virtually all of Catholic Europe.

You are right. It's mostly Brazilians mostly mullato, Cape-Verdians (80% mullato 20% kangz). Third Ukrainians - Europeans - non-EU Plus other kangz + chinese

This is suposedly a Eurostat graph of origin country per HDI level of the parents from the babitants residing in each European Union country.

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Recall Portugal was a military dictatorship well into the 70s.. lmao . people think of franco bur how could that have happened ?

Has there ever been a point when the Spaniards weren't having issues with their mudslime spawn?

They're like a neverending invasion of bedbugs.

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ya, it goes that route. rising tide of the south

>north african whites
None, go visit morocco if you think.those moor niggers are spanish or white.

Mulattos are as white as nafris same as amerindians.

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>>the goverment has censored books talking about the connection of the ruling class and mafia ( especially drug dealers ) because obviously they are full of shit

I was away for a month, can you give me a rundown about this whole Gallego narco thing?

Currently being inundated with Hispanics. The capital is disgracefully full of black street merchants and Arabs.

>What you said is applicable to virtually all of Catholic Europe.
Yes, this is what I have on mind. You look at Spain, Portugal, Mexico, Poland, South America, there's a common pattern everywhere since the 18. century, that is an attempt by radicalized "modernizers" to destroy tradition and catholicism in the name of liberalism and neutrality. Western Europe becomes an ideal to strive for in everything

In Spain for instance carlism was a reaction against destroying fueros as a regional autonomy, because spanish modernizers wanted to centralize the country as it was done in Protestant Europe

Is this why the diaspora here is ballooning last 10 years or so? I thought it was odd LATAM diaspora was shrinking here as lots are going back, but Spanish are increasing quite a bit. My sister actually just got a job in the state government communication department with the strongest part of her CV being her fluent Spanish. Ironically her boss told her they have had a large increase in its use but very few people speak Spanish and most of them not Castilian.

Pic related is an example of a pure berberid/berid. They are just a cromagnid archaic form of atlantomed

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>Recall Portugal was a military dictatorship well into the 70s

Leftists and multiracialist traitors use that 'argument' to open even more our borders.

Rifians are very white
Lets say that those phenotypes where north africans after they get mixed with saharid niggers and orientalid sandniggers

Not white or Spanish.

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Being ugly doesn't make you non-white I guess

Tell me, how many north African are pure Berbers? I agree with you on the fact they can be considered as white, or at least certainly not negroid, nor semitic. But the fact is most of them got blacked centuries ago. Some tribes in Algeria, Egypt and Lebanon (as far as I know) kept their genes clean but it's a small minority...
Kys meme flag

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Chacho no me seas catastrófiquer.

Place is, well, fine. Fucked financially amd getting a job its a little fucked (not me lol male nurse who does halterophilia) buuuut here in canarias even the leftys are fucking redpilled and know about the jews and everywere I talk to people they tell me his little secret of becoming fachas.

Idk bro, its not what it is now but I see some light at the end of the tunnel. And if not I will get into politics and will make Franco a sissy boi. This fucking degeneracy...

I sound contradicting af.

Remember canarios are aplatanaos brainlets when reading me.

Una peyita gofio miniño?

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hey, got an off-topic question. was planning to do a masters in Spain at UPC in Barcelona. you say the education system is bad, is it bad for higher degrees? i traveled to Spain for a conference and really loved the culture, but i went more north west (Navarra, Basque Country) and really loved it there. there's a small town i went to that i would honestly live the rest of my days there. i'd go further north but there doesn't seem to be masters in math related topics up there.

Some Algerians look "white" as fuck.

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This is a galician mate not that phoenician hybrid you are posting.

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The only pure "white berberids" now are rural andalusian berids, as well as the only pure "white eurafricanids" are some eastern spaniards

Dude. You already fell in love with the place, dont fight it. Also basque country gets your belly and orgasms it every meal. Just come. We'll need brainpower after the civil war.

We don't take almost any refugees, even the ones that come end up flying because we don't give them money, kek

If anything we have some niggers in the south and in the big cities that came in boats illegaly, and I say some because most of them go to France.

The situation is pretty good here actually compared to the rest of Europe desu.

Berids are just meds with cm, there's no connection between them and north africans.

To answer your question regarding refugees, in recent years, probably the highest number of refugees that arrived and stayed in Portugal were from Ukraine and Crimea.

neweasterneurope.eu/old_site/articles-and-commentary/2082-seeking-refuge-in-distant-portugal

East Europeans (no one calls them slavs here) are generally well regarded and adapt quickly, in 2 to 3 years they're well integrated and speak the language well enough, unless we're talking about gypsies.

Arab muslims won't get the same warm welcoming from the locals that you saw in Germany, it's only the usual suspects you see virtue signaling, even the old ladies are apprehensive about the so called refugees from Syria.

Problem here are the black population from Angola and specially Cape-Verde, they have been shipping them to whole villages in the interior as well as in the north.

Bebers were in canarias am I right? but seeing the phenotype I think that they were more in a "moorer" branch.

No.

Those talking of "med" are just Africans.

Native Spaniards are with Germans, Brits, Frenxh and native Italians.

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