REEEE stop politicizing, guns don't kill people... people kill people Banning guns is FASCISM, what about muh responsible gun owners, why do you want to punish people who have done no crime stop using guilty by association fallacy
>brown guy shoots people
BAN ISLAM BAN MUSLIMS People don't kill people, Religion kills people Banning Islam is totally not fascism and against constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion, punish ALL Muslims because they are guilty by association
There's a Constitutional Amendment protecting arms, not cars.
Hudson Johnson
>well-regulated
Jayden Martinez
white people have positives which outweigh the negatives muslims are all negative also these are our ancestral homelands fuck off Ahmed, go drink piss out of a shoe
But have you noticed no one gives a fuck when sand niggers shoot up mosques and schools in muslim countries? Notice how there is outrage when a fucking worthless muslim dog who has no reason to be in the west or white country kills white people?
Do you know what proportionality is? Do you have any comprehension? What is the typical IQ of goat fucking inbred child rapists like you?
Only that retard George Bush claimed that Islam is peace, no Muslims would claim that Islam is pacifist, defending yourself against imperialist scum is explicitely recommended and part of the religion.
if you are invited into someone's house you have bigger responsibilities to behave than those living in it. you are given the honour of coming in and sharing the house's order and resources which you didn't help construing. therefore you show your gratitude by being humble and useful. if you on the other hand make demands, cry unfairness or do crime, your punishment must be harder. any fault by an immigrant must be met with extreme harshness by society. deportation for one who commits the simpler of crimes would be ideal. the crimes of the original members are of course bad but inherent and so are to be met with regular law.
>Meme generator topkek, found the nu-fag, anyway you should invited Christian Mexicans instead since they are so peaceful. Because the problems with mass immigration totally have to do with the religion of the immigrants.
Yes you are right but its going the other way around now. How do we fix this?
Nicholas Foster
Except most recent terrorism by Muslims in Europe has been caused by people who have been born there. Your society failed them. In the U.S. alienated youth comit school shootings and shoot up churches. In Europe alienated Muslim youth become terrorists. They are looking for an outlet.
Adrian Fisher
>BAN ISLAM BAN MUSLIMS People don't kill people, Religion kills people >Banning Islam is totally not fascism and against constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion, punish ALL Muslims because they are guilty by association
The Muslims shouldn't be there in the first place because the Islamification of the West is the destruction and desecration of Western Civilisation.
Millions of Muslims were born in the West and have the same rights according to their countries constitution as the people who have been there for centuries. What do you want to do with them? If you want to go down the national socialist road and evict all people based on race then I'm fine with that. At least it's an internally consistent worldview. But people arguing for muh constitution whilst simultaneously wanting to ban Islam and Muslims are retarded and don't realise that the same document extends certain inalienable rights to citizens who happen to be Muslim.
>Western Civilisation. And what civilisation would that be senpai? 2017 version where faggots are allowed to marry and adopt children or 1970s version when in a country like Germany, homosexual relations were ILLEGAL and punishable under the law?
John Green
>Example A >"banning the weapon doesnt solve the motive"
>Example B >"reducing the people who hold the motive will reduce the crime"
Was this that hard OP?
Camden Walker
More like
>Banning the weapon doesn't solve the motive as evidenced by millions of law abiding gun owners >Banning the religion doesn't solve the motive as evidenced by millions f law abiding Muslims
Caleb Sullivan
This. All you have to do is look at the UK, Germany, and Sweden for examples.
But wasn't the school shooter a spiccle? And yet the response from that shooting would be more fitting for a "whtie guy"?
Oliver Morales
Im fine with going back to Western civilization of 50 or more years ago. Tolerate fags but behind closed doors. Less of the recently developped overt degeneracy.
As for your first point I would argue for voluntary repatriation combined with a complete migration stop and strictly enforced deportations for illegals and criminals with dual nationality or non-permanent residency.
This is an oversimplification. Im not asking to ban all Muslim. Im asking for even the current laws regarding migration to actually be enforced and additional laws that ensure radicalism is handled harshly. I would also want a Western initiative for motivate Western Muslims to engage in internal conversation on a reformation of Islam, and the acknowledgement that Islam in its current form often does not fit within Western societies. None of the fundamentalist excesses of Islam should be tolerated under religious freedom. Individual freedom and rule of law should override relifious freedom. The same would go for any religion, specifically Judaism, which manages to evade the rule of law more than Islam does.
Dominic Morales
we dont try and ban guns in either case we want to ban the reasons why the dude shot up the palce instead
islam,lets face it omar mateen would not of shot up the pulse nightclub if it wasnt for the fact he was a muslim
Jacob Rogers
and niggers
Jeremiah James
His prime motivation was Western meddling in the Middle East. When the authorities/ first responders contacted him while he was holding people hostage in that club he didn't rant about homosexuals. he ranted about Western foreign policy.
>we want to ban the reasons why the dude shot up the palce instead So you want to ban depression and anxiety? Makes no sense my dude.
Elijah Ortiz
So ammend the constitution again to remove it?
Henry Evans
Who needs the Muslim problem in addition to everything else?
Brandon Hernandez
>communist flag >doesn't understand historical context Who would have guessed. If it meant regulated as the word does today, why was there no body in place at the outset to ensure oversight of militas? It means they're to be well outfitted and maintained, dipshit. Read Tench Coxe.
Levi Bennett
you're the only one talking skin color, latent hypocrite racist
islam is not and never will be a race, and the disgusting totalitarian cult will be defeated
John Wood
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
You pinko subhuman
Leo Nelson
SHALLtards were too cowardly to take action and stop the government from surveilling american citizens illegally. SHALLtards were too cowardly to take action and stop the government from killing american citizens illegally. SHALLtards were too cowardly to take action and stop the government from lying to the population blatantly. SHALLtards were too cowardly to take action and stop the government from shielding the rich and powerful from justice.
They'll be infringed because you're too much of a pussy to ever defend anything. You failed your duties to the American people and now nobody will ever have an ounce of sympathy when you cry about mean old Obama stealing your toys.
Jayden Collins
>islam is not and never will be a race t. Brainlet Muslims were considered a race in Yogoslawia and were treated (genocided) as such. Go back to school faggot
>His prime motivation was Western meddling in the Middle East. >>we want to ban the reasons why the dude shot up the palce instead >So you want to ban depression and anxiety? Lol.
Parker Garcia
Nice argument faggot, you totally managed to make me see the truth
White man rapes a woman REEEE LOCK HIM UP CUT HIS BALLS OFF
black man rapes a woman HES INNOCENT YOU RACEIST SCUM WE MUST ELIMINATE WHITE MALES REEEEE
Jordan Johnson
3 of a kind beats 2 pair. Checkmate starvingfag.
Christopher Morales
>be 1% of the total population >somehow top the charts in terror attacks >no you see the refugees arn't the problem, it's their children that grow up to be terrorists
Brown guy has no right to shoot up school, since he's not part of race club. White guy shoots up schools because too many brown guys ruining his life.
Ian Allen
>black man rapes a woman HES INNOCENT YOU RACEIST SCUM WE MUST ELIMINATE WHITE MALES REEEEE Literally no one makes that argument
Jayden Ross
You can't simultaneously say he had a motivation and that he just did it because he was depressed, retard.
Alexander Diaz
The user I replied to made two different statements, Mr. Cranium. The statement about depression was specifically in reply to this:
>we dont try and ban guns in either case we want to ban the reasons why the dude shot up the palce instead
Kevin Jenkins
Your numbers are pretty irrelevant to the fact that you and all your SHALLtard friends are cowards who universally failed the American public. When the government comes to take your guns you'll gladly hand them over and present your ass for a thorough fucking.
Dominic Hall
Big talk for someone who is unarmed. Pleb
Aiden Bailey
You and every single other SHALLtard have a gun and refused to use it no matter how many times the government wronged the people. Whether I have a gun or not doesn't matter. What matters is that you failed the public, and now you'll have no sympathy crying about your constitutional rights since you did absolutely nothing to protect anyone else's.
Landon Ramirez
>Not understanding the 4th and 2nd amendment are infringed upon differently If you think armed people would have allowed the government to install cameras and mics in their homes, you're fucking retarded. The logistics of disarmament will precipitate violence. And you somehow missed the point, banning the reason would entail banning Mateen on the grounds of his ideology.
Christian Clark
>you'll have no sympathy crying about your constitutional rights since you did absolutely nothing to protect anyone else's. Nobody gives a shit about mass surveillance. It doesn't really affect people directly. Look at how many instances there are of police getting lit up in no knock raids, with warrants. The day the police can take your door without a warrant people will give a shit.
Cooper Nelson
Armed people allowed the government to illegally surveil US citizens. So why should literally anyone give a shit about protecting the rights of gun-owners who didn't give a shit about protecting their rights?
Nolan Parker
Mateen was born in New York and had the same constitutional rights as any American, you can't ban arbitrarily ban Americans because they have a certain "ideology".
Levi Scott
What's it like bashing authoritarianism while advocating for authoritarianism?
Jordan Howard
Illegal murder of US citizens, illegal imprisonment of US citizens, and all sorts of other shenanigans are where people should care. Shielding the rich and powerful from the consequences of their actions are where people should care. It affects people directly. And yet the SHALLtards with their well-regulated militia did nothing to protect the security of a free state. So why should anyone give a fresh shit about some crying manbaby with a penis substitute?
Mason Jones
Do you support jizya?
Bentley Scott
What's it like jerking off your phallic manchild toy to the fantasy of fighting government tyranny when you've demonstrated day after day that you'll do absolutely nothing to stop it? If we're going to wind up with an abusive government the least we can do is get some dumbshit nazi tears and a few less mass shootings out of it.
Daniel Reyes
Most of those people don't actually believe their rights are being infringed and are indifferent. They don't need to give a shit, either. If 2% of gun owners decided to revolt, they'd be the same size as the military. Imagine hundreds of Ruby Ridges, Wacom, and McVeighs happening at once, and the government can't just drone and airstrike people without vindicating the people rebelling in the eyes of most bystanders.
Luis Sanders
Yeah, and precisely zero percent of gun owners would have the balls to do that, considering they didn't have the balls to do it when the government started abusing other citizens.
Angel Sullivan
It's a relic of the past and it might have been useful then, for instance the Ottomans taxing thei non-Muslim subjects at a different rate in return for the protection of their crops, livelihood and property, but in the modern world and nation state paradigm it makes little to no sense.
Hudson Perez
If your ideology makes you into a soldier fighting a war of attrition against the state, sure they can.
Adrian Ramirez
So it seems you're doing nothing to stop the abuses of the government either. Everything you said about me now applies to you. Fuck you for letting this happen, you piece of starving trash.
William Long
I'm not the one pretending that my manchild toy is a tool of the populace to save us from the government, you are.
Jackson Bennett
Who said anything about saving the populace? You commie scum think you're superheros or something. It's called self defense, not group defense.
Kevin Stewart
>muslim sees everyone as enemies aka kuffar >gun owner sees everyone as enemies aka not gun owner can we ban the collosal faggot known to be OP? without a gun i can and i will castrate your little wee and put into your mouth then behead your faggot ass before i put it into your poo hole faggot
Kevin Brown
That's a slippery slope. The American government is not in the business of regulating free speech. Otherwise all American neo-nazi organisations who reject the constitution would be banned. That is why it was such a big deal when under Obama American citizens like Anwar-al-Alaki were extra judicially droned, just because of the ideology they held.
Ryder Price
>my retarded racist beliefs brown people i don't like Who's the fucking racist? Do you see "brown" mentioned anywhere? Islam is an ideology not a race retard. Go neck yourself.
>I only care about defending rights when they're specifically my rights. So nobody should give a shit when the police bust down your door and take away your guns.
Julian James
What guns? I don't know what you're talking about.
Camden Martinez
You're totally missing the point. There is a limit to what the government can get away with using explicit action. Do you think the Bundy standoff was made up or something? Expect to see that and a lot worse as time goes on. Most people live comfortable lives and don't give a shit about what happens unless it affects them directly. Disarmament will affect a lot of people directly, and inspire fear in a lot of people. The fact of the matter is that people don't care about mass surveillance, you're on the internet the same as me right now so I can glean based on your action you don't care either.
Matthew Green
Intervening against a person who is actively preparing to carry out action is not a slippery slope.
Dominic Ross
Ive been intentionally reading leftists news sources recently. They follow the same fucking patterns we do. If its a white guy we ree, a black guy they ree We're like crabs in a fucking bucket Im going nuts
