> be childfree and single >have my own place and car just for myself >have savings because I don’t have any kids to feed or take care of >have free time for myself to do whatever the fuck I want , working out , going out , studying technology stuff, relaxing... >I can spend all of my money in whatever I want just for myself (no children birthdays, no children tuitions fees, children clothing , etc) >I don’t have to waste my own time listening to my gfs problems since I don’t have a gf anymore (sex is totally overrated and not worth your freedom) >have free time to hang out with my friends , play video games at home and work out together >have total freedom about my life , no kids or wife on my way to freedom > I can sleep all day long when I get home. No children to take care of or annoying wife to listen to. Just me , myself and I. > I can take a hot bath with the lights turned off , aromatic candles all around me while listening to my favourite relaxing music during hours. I could never do this with a wife or children.
Somehow I am a degenerate for living a quiet and comfy life according to Sup Forums
I don’t even earn much money , I work part time and have loads of free time since I work very early in the morning
Why should I sacrifice this freedom ? Why should I live by the script and throw my life away ? Why should I settle down , work on a relationship and raise my kids when I can be free ?
You guys keep blaming the Jews for all of your problems but truth is you guys are really free to do whatever you want with your lives.
don't end up like Brad pitt and Johnny depp and you'll be fine
James Hughes
>sex is totally overrated and not worth your freedom
also this
Levi Gonzalez
>Brad pitt and Johnny depp what happened to brad pitt and johnny depp? i know brad was cucked by that jewry bitch but didn't he divorce? and what about depp?
Evan Gray
>yea man, live for the now and leave no legacy. That epic bong rip fron last week will keep my name and genes alive
Jaxson Allen
What a massive cope. Did it ever cross your mind that some people actually have a loving relationship and *want* children?
Robert Jones
You sound like a 19 year old that just broke up with his gf and is trying to feel better about being alone.
Hudson Wilson
>Why should I settle down , work on a relationship and raise my kids when I can be free ?
You share your genetic inheritance with people who managed to build a great society in comparison to almost all others. With dying childless, you leave the future for the offspring of stupid people. The world after you die will be objectivity worse since the low IQ places breed and the high IQ places do not. You are part of the problem. At the very least you can do is donate some sperm for fucks sake.
Owen Bell
Have fun being a hedonistic piece of shit for the coming 30 years. At one point you'll realise you want more in life than easy comforts. You are a bunch of particles. You should reproduce and after that you may slowly degrade.
If I don't have a desire to have children/pass on my genes am I built wrong? Lack of primal desire to have kids combined with potential pitfalls (me a potentially bad father, bad mother, sick/disabled kid, external world events etc) really leave me with no intention of having offspring. I understand why evolutionary that makes me defective but I can't think of a good reason to try and change.
Logan King
what you really want, on a basic level, is to have children. and you are bitter your society works against that being a good option for white men.
John Rodriguez
this place is gonna get real fucking weird once women are inferior for sex compared to robots
Yup, better to have never tried than to fail an half-assed attempt
Jacob Green
Your style of life matters not if there are none to inherit it. every single one of your ancestors had children before you, are you going to axe that lineage for simple pleasures? a good life is one of struggle and triumph, not easy bliss. people like you cause hard times for short sighted pleasure.
Eli Diaz
So because you didn't get the pedestal, it wasn't worth effort in the first place? failures are learning experiences, and with each lesson learned failure is less likely. three simple things you can do to raise good kids Teach virtues of hardwork educate them on their own history Show them what discipline is by how you use it on them.
I got none of that, and I've been a NEET since highschool. turning that around by having a job and teaching my self things. been in a mostly good relationship for 14 months today. I want kids, despite having shitty examples for parents, because I learned from their failures with me when I realized the problems I had because they were not strong parents.
Jason Walker
most of the stuff you wrote is still possible with a wife and even a proper family. Dont deny yourself the nature given "right" to a family you will be sad about it when you are old.
David Robinson
Things were rough for me growing up, homeless, relying on friends parents for food etc, constantly having to fight because I was always in bad neighborhoods. I would have a hardtime justifying kids without knowing for sure I had enough money to cover anything that might crop up. I know my parents didn't have me with the intent of becoming completely destitute, they're good people, shit happens.
Ethan Evans
>virgin!!!!!!!! why you no assume me and my baby Tyrone jr, white race is dying because of you!!!!! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I was being ironic. These days you're already a winner if you can keep your wife from divorcing you tho. Like what's the point of a male heir if he is raised by a single mom? He'd come back eventually but by then the damage will already be done.
I should just become a sperm donor and then live my life. Or knock up a grill or two before I shoot myself trough the head. Turning 30 this year, I see all my former classmates turn into roasties that settle for small dogs or cats. Last week my 38yr old niece killed herself because she couldn't find anyone to simply knock her up and stick with her. We've abandoned our women and it's pathetic. FAIL
ok but you're still going to grow old and you'll still die and you won't leave a legacy because you didn't have kids and if you don't care about that you're a degenerate.
Jose Wright
There is just one life and I will make the most of it, instead of following whatever genetic mission society has duped you into believing. What is the endgoal anyway of transmiting your genes, making your tribe the top one? I prefer to follow the patrician way of developing science and arts, and having my own table of values.
I laugh at you slaves of society and peers demands, you will live your life fulfilling obligations of others, because you do not know to be free. It gives me joy to listen to your eternal whinning, you are butthurt to see free men living life from their own POV and doing what they think it is important, not what you, slave, deem relevant.
Hurry up, go make Mr. Goldstein more money so that you can feed your irrelevant family. Then you can buy more ecelebs books to tell you what to think and give you duties, since you are too pathetic to think on your own. Kys, asap
Jose Johnson
>We've abandoned our women and it's pathetic We should make a list of objective and concrete requirements that any man can fulfill to claim any single woman as long as he is the first man to show her a completed list. This kills the female hypergamy and saves the west.
Kevin Smith
>muh legacy
Asher Perez
Why are you sad MGTOWs so not open minded? Why do you impose life altering rules like be single and no kids, what if you're single not giving a fuck but all of a sudden comes a trad girl who's really into you? You fucking cultist creeps never say KEEP AN OPEN MIND!
Joseph Johnson
>I can take a hot bath with the lights turned off , aromatic candles all around me while listening to my favourite relaxing music during hours. I could never do this with a wife or children. YOU SEE? She sounds like a bitch with some attention whoring kids but not EVERYONE is like that.
Ryan Torres
>There is just one life >implying
But if you live only to pass your genes, you are making yourself a animal moved by instincts and nothing more It is not like everyone here has special genes or the human species will get wiped because of that, there are a lot of trash people making 8-10 kids already.
Christopher Powell
I don't really care. Its not worth it. I have been in relationships. They are not worth anything. Its too much work for nothing.
Ryder Gomez
The point is that we want less trash people to reproduce
Leo White
You will realize the big mistake you made when you become older... the loneliness will make you want to kill yourself. And you biological urge to spread your seed will go unsatisfied thus adding to your depression.... a life dedicated to yourself gets old. When you love someone more than yourself (your child), you will understand the true meaning of living.
Why do millenials write like they are shitty versions of Shakespeare or some bootleg philosopher? Lmao
Dominic Fisher
you're right user
Only shareblue and saddled dad's disagree because they don't like to see you winning.
Julian Rodriguez
>Redpilled enough to recognize the world is absolute shit and is going to be even worse down the road
>Wants to bring a child into said world to suffer the future hardships
Colton Ramirez
After many years of experience, I’ve learned hookers are way cheaper than gf’s
Eli King
>a good life is one of struggle and triumph, not easy bliss You write this, on a laptop, on an electric grid, in the richest country to ever exist. You aren't living a good life. You need to move to Siberia or that one river of shit in India and swear off all metal tools to truly live your good life of struggle and triumph.
Parker Bailey
1 little problem with your "ideal" lifestyle: you'll be paying child support for a kid you didn't want. That's the problem with you "child free" pieces of shit. Unless you're willing to become a fag and fuck men, then sooner or later you're going to get a woman pregnant and, unlike your perception of women being 100% pro-abortion, you'll find out the hard way why so many women like abortion being legal: so that they can use your own demands that they abort your child against you in court.
Face it fucker, there's only 4 options for you if you want to try to maintain your "childfree" lifestlye: 1) Become a fag and spread GRID. 2) Get a girl pregnant, try to get her to abort the kid, and then get fucked over by her in court. Your argument that she said "yeah, i'd totally get an abortion if I got pregnant" not only won't save you in court but will be used against you. 3) Get a girl pregnant and try to induce a misscarriage. This will backfire on you and you'll literally be charged with murder if you 'succeed'. This will also be used against you in court if you fail. 4) You could get a vasectomy. This'll guarantee that you'll basically be a cuck. The only way you'll get sex without hiring a prostitute will be through marriage and she'll get pregnant by a big Black man and you'll either raise his kid or lose 50% of your stuff. This is why the cuckholdry epidemic is going on. Most/all cucks got snipped thinking they'd get sex without children.
Face it: cucks, guys paying child support with 0 custody, and many men in jail all tried to be "child free" and look how that turned out for them. You're better off accepting that you're going to have to contribute to the survival of the species or you will pay(although i'm guessing you're already paying child support for a kid you didn't want and are pushing this crap to get others to fall for the same traps).
tl;dr feminists have ensured that you're not getting what you want unless you want to die of GRID.
It is human nature to reproduce less if you are bright, the boring task of reproduction was always given to the lower classes
Elijah Taylor
You are a degenerate because you are throwing away thousands of years of your ancestors struggle for survival just because you want to live a "comfy" life without the responsibility of being a father.
Xavier Clark
I don't want my children to suffer from HBP and alcoholism. I'll just die alone thank you very much.
Jaxon Rodriguez
man just let us fucking die
Isaiah Richardson
I'm not marrying in a country where marriage law is corrupt, but I'm sure happy living off welfare, doing the shit I like as well as fucking other women.
Stop contributing to the system.
Jason Thomas
Thank you for not having kids tbqh. "Because of potential pitfalls, I dont want to.." >have a kid, might be bad dad >get married, might be cuck hubby >find love, might get burned :^)
Content to reap the benefits of civilization, but too afraid to fly. Begone from thine gene pool.
Ryder Nguyen
>what is the heath death of the universe?
Fucking lol. Legacy? Don't make me laugh. There is no such thing as permanency in this world. Making sacrifices now for something in the distant future which will eventually disintegrate anyway is fucking retarded.
Evan Moore
Occum's razor sugests that he's some asshole who got a girl pregnant, wanted the kid to be aborted, and then had that used against him in court during the custody battle.
Pieces of shit like that keep on pushing abortion and "childfree" crap so that others will suffer just like them. Kind of ironic how they want others to be legally dominated by women after they themselves did. Trash likes pulling others down.
Jonathan Hughes
This logic makes no sense, why would a woman go to Sup Forums fishing for a husband? At all? Most men arent MGTOW, and women can fish for betabux in far many more places.
You're just too shallow to accept any sort of criticism of you hedonistic ideology so you just blame any criticism of your ideology on roasties who are for some reason fishing for husbands on Sup Forums. But the fact remains that MGTOW and feminism alike are two sides of a coin meant to destroy the family and gender roles in our society and you dont think its a kike ploy because "T-they did it first".
Blake Butler
>I don't want my children to suffer from HBP and alcoholism. I'll just die alone thank you very much. Yeah, because the mother will've gotten full custody and a restraining order against you after you tried to end that pregnancy.
Camden Hall
What point are you making?
Joshua Nelson
The only thing, I think is sad. Although I don’t think anything you’re doing is wrong. Is that when you die. There will be no one to carry on your memory. No one to help move forward in life with all the hard work you’ve done. No one to care for you in the end. That’s the only down side.
Daniel Lewis
>my own place >probably rents
c u c k e d
Gabriel King
I am happily married with a baby and plans for another kid soon but sometimes I'm wistful about my life before all this. I could buy whatever the hell I wanted and not think about it. Go on trips to Europe or Mexico or whatever once or twice a year. Now I have to be a lot more careful with money. It's better now in some ways but a lot more challenging.
Oliver Morales
Are you really built wrong? Or have you been convinced of all the things you mentioned?
Lay off the mainstream media, my man. Smart people reproducing as much as possible is the real red pill. Don't let the rere's of the world outbreed those of us that will spread to the stars.
Mason Myers
spot on. they don't care though.
Samuel Martin
23
Christopher Diaz
Why is not caring about what happens after you die, degenerate? You're dead and wont see it.
Nathaniel Fisher
The irony is that all 3 of those things are what you get when you try to be "childfree". If you get a girl pregnant and try to get her to abort the kid, you'll be fucked over and likely be a bad dad since you didn't want the kid in the first place. Fathers that wanted their kids dead are really shitty fathers to their kid(s) because they know full well that they openly wished to end the lives of their child(ren). You'll get burned badly if you try to get a women to abort your kid. Every woman around will know what kind of piece of shit you are when they find out you pay child support.
>getting cucked That's what happens to guys who thought they were smart and got snipped because they wanted to be (((childfree))). They end up getting married but the wife wants kids. The wife then realizes that she can cheat and the husband can't do jack shit unless he wants to risk losing half his stuff. When you see White people with Black/Colored babies, you can be assured that the man's plumbing was surgically sabotaged but it didn't lead to the result he wanted.
Jayden Hernandez
At least no one is making you marry in the laws of 2018
Brody Jackson
Thats fine, Just avoid marriage is usually my motto. Its a bad deal now. You wouldn't bank half of everything on a coin flip.
John Cox
A combination I'd imagine. I experienced true hunger growing up because of finances, I'm wary of the idea of reproducing without the assurance of being financially well off.
Joshua Evans
1. Heat death is a theory.
2. Even if it were certain, it's so far away that it's irrelevant. If you want to pursue a life of hedonism while not thinking for the long term future of your family and country, resulting in widespread suffering, because "lol the universe is gonna die in 10 gazillion years" then you're a cunt. Plain and simple.
Eli Ross
Translation: >"I just lost a custody battle with my ex after she brought up all the messages/texts that I sent encoraging and demanding her to abort that kid. Now she has me on a leash and I want others to make the same mistakes so I'll try to persuade others to try to kill their own kids knowing full well that they'll fail" Die.
zip-tie three electric toothbrushes to the case of your fleshlight so it vibrates like crazy while you fuck it
Leo Anderson
Im just waiting until my dog dies then I'll follow shortly after. Shes 11 this year and im not leaving her here alone.
Noah Russell
Pretty specific projection there pal
Connor Price
You probably masturbate
Bentley Roberts
>anime Didn't read
Nicholas Rodriguez
>A combination I'd imagine. I experienced true hunger growing up because of finances, I'm wary of the idea of reproducing without the assurance of being financially well off. Not your choice to make. If you want to have sex with a woman, you better expect for her to get pregnant. And if you think you can get out of it for a few/several hundred bucks, then expect to get fucked over in a custody battle.
Most every time you see some guy paying child support for a kid he doesn't have custody for, you can bet that he fought hard to get that kid into a dumpster at the nearest planned parenthood.
>kill self after realising that you are going to die alone with nothing left behind to even remember you or have your last name caried on to future generations
Henry Lee
This, the way to tame a woman is to treat her as a man should treat a woman. Caring yet firm and strong, hold your ground yet treat her as you would a child, (i.e provide). Meanwhile be the dominant in sex, and make her a mother soon, the earlier you get her to realize the joys of motherhood the better off she will be, once you fufill her maternal instincts feminism evaporates.
Jack Perez
>I can take a hot bath with the lights turned off ,aromatic candles all around me while listening to my favourite relaxing music during hours That is so fucking gay, do you take your favorite dildo in the bath with you?
Grayson Baker
Looks like I found two deadbeat dads. Hehehe. Did you cry in court?
Thats why you just give it up, and be celibate. Wait until the robowaifus That's what I'm doing, except I'm incel. No point in trying.
Adrian Evans
Yes, probably twice a week. I never watch porn though. I've been in relationships in the past that were enjoyable, I'm sure I will again. It's not a women thing, it's a kids thing.
Grayson Williams
>if You're smart then your child will be. You're very wrong. Also I don't wanna contribute to the evolution of society. FUck this world, I'm keeping my money and time for myself.
Michael Taylor
Im 28 now and I can say that when I was 23 I was like you and had no desire for children. All of the women I talked to were degenerate liberal whores and this constantly reinforced my view that I was not right for being a father.
Then I met my wife, she is right wing as hell and smarter than most women I have met. It just sort of clicked and I realized I could see myself having children with her because she matched my personality and mannerisms so well. We have one child now and are planning on more.
Jason Young
> be childfree and single >have my own place and car just for myself >have savings because I don’t have any kids to feed or take care of >have free time for myself to do whatever the fuck I want , working out , going out , studying technology stuff, relaxing... >I can spend all of my money in whatever I want just for myself (no children birthdays, no children tuitions fees, children clothing , etc) >I don’t have to waste my own time listening to my gfs problems since I don’t have a gf anymore (sex is totally overrated and not worth your freedom) >have free time to hang out with my friends , play video games at home and work out together >have total freedom about my life , no kids or wife on my way to freedom > I can sleep all day long when I get home. No children to take care of or annoying wife to listen to. Just me , myself and I. > I can take a hot bath with the lights turned off , aromatic candles all around me while listening to my favourite relaxing music during hours. I could never do this with a wife or children.
This post literally just ME ME ME ME ME ME ME IAM AN INNNNNDIVIDUAL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MYSELF AND IIII Fuck you scholo sage
Cooper Fisher
making you, huh? m8 you're not being made to and if i were ever somehow in the position of such power i think you'd very much like the outcome. marital law is in shambles. the cunts are """redistributing""" your shit via taxes. you're not being made to marry.
Connor Jackson
You are selfishly refusing to pass on the gift of life your parents gave you.
Matthew Adams
You will be forgotten like 2 weeks after you die anyways, having kids or not, and I don't see any advantage on being remembered in this shitty world
Luis Jones
That's a good piece of advice, I had one scare after a deffective condom, reality set in quick. That was in a relationship, but that permanently ended any desire for hookup sex, far far too risky.
Joshua Williams
>Hurr durr Ill just get my kids raised by a sex toy, theyll be perfectly fine
>Fuck you scholo Scholo used to be my favorite dungeon, ran it a million times to get the headmaster's charge. One time I had masterloot on and an ace of elements dropped, nobody checked loot and I didn't link it, stayed in after everyone left, disbanded group and gave it to myself. Ah, those times...
Camden Carter
Agree. Much of feminism is actually tactics and tricks to become a mother. For example, the girl that openly claims to be willing to get an abortion if she gets pregnant is more likely to get pregnant by some dipshit like OP who thinks he can get out of fatherhood for a small wad of cash(and likely plans to dump the girl afterwards). Once the shitbag finds out that she was lying, he's given her enough evidence to ass rape in a custody battle and even get a restraining order if he's the kind who likely wants to push her down some stairs. Feminism makes more sense when you realize that much of the stuff they way is the opposite of what they mean in some circumstances.
Okay? I was a mistake anyways. I'm just exercising more caution, learning from others mistakes.
Nathan Cox
I'll cede that we are giving the single mother's a fuck ton of wealth via taxes, but you're still not forced to formally marry anyone.
Robert Green
This, is the most important point. He is revelling in the present and in his youth, surrounded by the conveniences of modern life. His post doesn't even allude to his future where no one will love and take care of him except maybe the government.
Ian Gutierrez
I thought you robofuckers always are shitting your pants over muh artificial wombs or shit like that.
Ah but whatever, you are apparently an incel so your genes are likely shit anyways, no need for them to be passed on.
Leo Scott
Sorry Fingolia, I'll adopt 26 African kids posthaste to repent for my selfishness
Benjamin Smith
Exactly my point.
Noah Ramirez
Good point. I think it help if you just say feminism is an advanced form of bitching or nagging. It's the only way women can get what they want.
Alexander Brooks
But do you have a bicyle?
Jason Nguyen
>Thats why you just give it up, and be celibate. Wait until the robowaifus No, you become a father willingly. While there are some true cunts in the world, the vast majority would rather have their kids raised with a man who wanted them to be born than by another man who isn't even their father. Are there some women who screw over good guys? Yeah. My mom is one. That's why you make damn well sure that you make it clear to those around you that: A) You know you're going to be a father no matter what. and B) That you know trying to get out of it would fuck you over. If a girl ever tries to bring you to court, her lack of evidence that you wanted the kid killed + witness evidence that you know you'd be a father no matter what will ensure that you'll never lose. Shitty women are VERY uncommon though.
Grayson Miller
Natural selection you have been scheduled for removal thanks for not opposing it. Kek
neither are you. not sure what you're getting at here.
Nathaniel Robinson
>Shitty women are VERY uncommon though >looks up divorce rate >looks up rate of women initiating divorces Really made me think
Nathan Powell
So how much do you pay every month? Did you ever tell your friends that you wanted that kid aborted? I bet it must feel like shit to be in your shoes. I mean, seriously, look how much effort you're putting into trying to get others to be fuckups just like you.