Isekai peaked years ago, but it keeps growing in volume

>isekai peaked years ago, but it keeps growing in volume.
When will the bubble burst?
Were can the genre even go?

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>were can the genre even go
to another world

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log horizon is shit

Heh

No it isn't.

You're shit.

What if instead of normal people (specially students), you isekai pretty weird persons.

And then I realize that's kinda Drifters (and to a minor extent, Gate), but I have yet to see an isekai with a Hitman or a dude (or perhaps a gal?) from the future who is half-cyborg/half-alien, an advanced AI-robot or something tghat's completely insane even by the standards of our sci-fi fiction.

Alternatively, Teddy Roosevelt.

RE:Monster

For example, imagine a comedy of the people of a fairly pacific place or comfy setting like the kingdoms of Akagami no Shirayuki-hime or Log Horizon suddenly having to deal with an ultra-edgy character with monstrously horrifying backstory... and trying to accommodate/rehabilitate him.

Something like the Baker or Hot Fuzz.
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You're diarrhea.

Huh, that looks... kinda interesting. Thank you!

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Still follows the same fucking bull shit that plagues every Isekai. He has pretty much god like powers, everyone likes him, especially the women. Why does every Isekai character have to be a Mary Sue?

becuse muh self insert. I think there is a difference withing "a relatable character" and "blank space for reader to self insert" that nips dont undesrtand.

Go watch re:zero then, a cuck mc for cuck anons fits well.

So do people not understand that most isekai are originally webnovels written by literal who authors?

>Ad hominem

>Were can the genre even go?

In some thread I saw sometime ago, there was mentions of isekai where the people transported to other fantasy worlds were also from fantasy/sci-fi places.That's fairly unique and something I wish we would see more.

Overlord kind of did something original bringing not only the protagonist but an entire place (Tomb of Nazarick) and its denizens (the NPCs created by the 41 Supreme Beings). What if we took this to the extreme: bring entire towns, countries or even continents from various and extremely diverse places and make a new world out of them (kind of like Marvel's 2015 Secret Wars did, pic related). You could bring each continent/country intact and make them either into islands or paste the borders of some accordingly so they can be neighbors. Or it you want a very chaotic place, cut each into very small pieces (cities, towns, even houses) and throw everything a bowl and mix.

Isekai a ftl ship with a crew of humans/aliens (not the space cat ears and tail only kind).
It's why most are worthless, not because they are isekai.

Because the "stuck in an MMO world" setting is appealing to otaku and kids alike.

fuck you and your bait

you're ad hominem

no u

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Literally this. The problem is that the same people keep going to the same world.

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Give it time and it looks much less interesting than it started.

Isekai peaked with "the neverending story"(book version obviously)

Isekai is not a genre, it's a setting.

Isekai show can be a comedy (Konosuba, Re:Zero), a parody (Sword Art Online), a horror (Sword Art Online 2), porn (Sword Art Online Ordinal Scale), overrated gateway trash (Overlord) and etc.

Yes it is.

Technically a bare insult that isn't used as the basis of an argument isn't ad hominem. You dumb piece of shit. You're wrong because you're a dumb piece of shit. That's an ad hominem.

I wouldn't say it peaked years ago. I like Rayearth, Strange Dawn, Grimgar, and Overlord for different reasons. All are good.

i feel like you got some classifications mixed up there

Anyway, isekais are fun. Usually decent inspiration for tabletop sessions too.

Genre should just die by a truck

I would like to an isekai that where the protag keeps being thrust into a new isekai each episode. It would keep all the usual tropes of an overpowered MC, useless fanservice partner, and world ending dilemma, BUT all those things change every episode. Half the fun would be seeing MC trying to figure out what new bullshit he has to deal with next.

Batman Ninja is isekai. There is no limit the types of isekai stories that can be created.

I feel someday, isekai won't be interesting anymore and people will stop buying it. Same thing happened with delinquent mangas and those were pretty damn popular back in the days.

no u

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>isekai peaked years ago
It didn't peak and there's no issue with the isekai concept.

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Okay, so hear me out on this one. The MC is pulled into a fantasy world... AGAIN!

The anime is not about the first time when he got pulled into that world. The first time everything happened the way you would expect: he went in, wrecked shit, saved the world, then went back to his own world and became successful.

So now he gets pulled back into the world, years or decades after he left it, and he gets to deal with how that world changed after he left it. Maybe it went to shit because he left a massive power vacuum and some of his friends died, others consider him a traitor, and the pathetic comedy character who was the butt of all the jokes is the only one who´s up for helping him out, while the traitors know how bullshit powerful he was and make sure he can´t get to build up his power again.

Or maybe the world became so amazing that he has no place left in it, so either we see the character self-destruct... or become the bad guy and start tearing the world apart!

>I think there is a difference withing "a relatable character" and "blank space for reader to self insert" that nips dont undesrtand.
They know exactly what they're doing. People read these kind of stories to run away from their shitty reality. Relatable character, i.e. someone else, getting the good stuff will only make you more depressed. You specifically need something to self-insert into to pretend that at least imaginary you has a better life.

To the trashbin, where it belongs.

You must accept that isekai i now a common trope together with battle-series, high school, harem and so on.

When there is a deconstruction of the setting, series that can't be easily topped and would make any other attempts to do similar thing seem like pale copies. Before that series will be exploring what can be done with the concept and audience will keep watching trying to find if one of the series does what they are wanting from the series to do.

Someone post the watamote (or whatever it’s called) pic where the loser girl shows an editor her isekai submission.

Return of the former hero
MC was summoned to another world when he was 12 years old, in the next 3 years he trained hard under strict guidance and got OP and defeated the demon lord and then got kicked out back to his own world never having a single chance to build a harem or anything like that. He then gathers scarce mana on the Earth, makes his own magic circle and sends himself back to fulfill his dream of making a harem in another world.
He ends up in yet another world but who cares as long as there's a harem he can fuck.

Highschool/Academy harem are dying. Incredibly few new ones are being made.

Man, the battle academy era was so bad. So many uninspired series blindly trying to copy the success of others, one after another.

What if the isekai era is over and we are now in the monster girl era? Kemono friends, dragon lolis and such will define this epoch of anime history.

Wait a minute wasn't it supposed to be imoutos?

isekai a modern missile cruiser or aircraft carrier
it'd be The Last Ship, except with magic and yf-22s vs dragons + resource management

would watch
how many days would he spend in each world? or would it be random so he is always on the clock trying to find an answer to what the fuck is going on?

We are living in imouto kalpa, but the era's during that period may change.

All those stories "travel to another world" are critique of modern societies: Gulliver's Travels and Alice in Wonderland talk shit about 1800s england, Jules Verne´s books talk shit about 1800s france.

Japanese isekais talk shit about videogames because his/her authors think videogames are destroying japanese society.

But there are some like Mushoku Tensei where it's just straight up fantasy without MMO rules.

Isekai era won't be over until Mushoku Tensei is adapted and we get a Konosuba movie.

the issue is less with RPG mechanics or MMO's-see Lazy King, Vermillion and some others which are decent, but more with the incredibly amateur authors and also readers not fed up with the usual things.
As long as narou's readers support such WNs/LNs the authors over there will just continue to pander to them.
We have these threads every single time blaming the authors but those views aren't going to come themselves on syosetsu.

Oh and of course the most important thing to mention.
Publishers. They specifically made labels for just syosetsu. They keep harvesting them like no tomorrow and there are even some relatively smaller publishers completely relying on narou.

The above just further increased their popularity to a whole new level and nowadays we're getting anime of such works that would've never ever seen the light of day a few years ago. So should we blame the publishers and the guys who give these works an OK? No they also realize what they are publishing, comicalizing or turning into an anime. Doesn't really matter to them, nor does it matter to many of the success hungry authors. As long as it manages to somehow click with the readers even pandering to their basic desires and what anime and manga mediums in general couldn't give them, Slaves, ridiculous settings, situations devoid of logic etc etc etc as long as it manages to grab the readers who are after such entertainment it doesn't matter.

And honestly I'm fine with that since I enjoy them quite a bit myself.

Translation dead?

Is this sword dad and cat girl adventures? I thought this series was supposed to be “comfy”; why is she getting fighting ripped dudes 5 times her size?

Dadsword and his murderous catgirl daughteru tend to have intense boss fights. Though that picture was just her getting scolded, not a fight.

There are dozens of isekai with that theme, like pic related which incorporates many of your suggestions.

>continuation never

It can go in the trash. Also log horizon was shit too.

>When will the bubble burst?
Give it 5 more years. The previous Isekai kick lasted the mid 90's to early-mid 00's but never saw as many series get made as compared to the current market. Not to mention that the previous era of Isekai was a better mix of legitimate fantasy settings and "sent to a digital world" settings while the current one is a lot of MMO-like settings.

It's going to be a while longer before people get sick of it and there needs to be a solid replacement for mass recycling.

>Were can the genre even go?
The genre first has to lose the idea that Reincarnation is the most popular hook to start a story. Once you stop relying on people dying you open up better possibilities. We had a thread weeks ago where Sci-Fi was brought up and matter transporters and Alien Abductions are suitable plot hooks to get a story going.

Another thing that would fix my bigger gripes with the genre is to bring back proper world building. Even shit like Digimon had a sense of identity to it's locations. But current Isekai is filled with a lot of samey fantasy worlds with towns and locations that don't even really feel connected. Make worlds feel more alive and make the individual spots within them feel like they belong to a coherent setting. It does wonders to a story.

Really one of the newer series I'm looking at does a lot good by just going back to the old school idea of Isekai. Send someone underpowered and ill-prepared to a fantasy world so they can act as a vehicle to explore a new world. It's apparent that the MC also has some latent potential or implied significance but right now the story is just focusing on showing us what this world is like and how things are structured.

I don't want the isekai era to be over till my super trashy pulp isekai get animes!

This. The authors are churning them out because there's a market for them. Until the demand changes the writers and publishers are going to milk it for everything they can get, and they are right to do so.

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>Were can the genre even go?

Reverse isekai where normal student of a fantasy world gets brought into our world, with all the hijinks of not being able to use any powers and work a 9-5 job to meet the daily obligations! ....wait, wasn't that already done? I have a feeling like it was already.

Isnt it sad being anime only clueless newfag?

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>I don't want the isekai era to be over till my super trashy pulp isekai get animes!
It was a joke m8

Though I actually do want a MT anime, at least the child arc since it's a fairly competent fantasy story.

But that is retarded.
You can read a good story with engaging characters and still self insert in there. Either as what would you do in his position or if you'd join or some shit. Unlimited tons of fanfiction proof that. You only need a bit of fantasy. If anyhting the same tier of fantasy to insert yourself into a blank slate.

>wait, wasn't that already done? I have a feeling like it was already.
yep

isekai will always exist. It might come in and out of favor but it's just too easy for amatures to write. Some are better then others and make a effort on world building while others just try for a unique gimmick or twist. Some are popular, some you will never read because even Japanese readers are sick of them.

I think part of the reason you still see so much isekai adapted is laziness from studios.

I'm always annoyed that magic in these things gets hand-waved as just something people can do. I'll like to see an isekai where a software developer gets sent to a fantasy world and discovers magic, considered by the local population as meaningless runes and incantations that if put in just the right order performs magic, is in fact a simple high-level programming language.

Followed by the MC using this knowledge to create nonsensically powerful magic and taking over the world.

the magic in Knight's and Magic was like that. The series didn't really do anything with it though.

You'll need to develop the magic system thoroughly for it to be of any use plotwise, or you'll just end up handwaving it as "lel programming magic" as well. Death march does the latter,
>meaningless runes and incantations
part aside.

Made me chuckle

Isekai that becomes a high school harem when.

For anyone who wants to read an actually good isekai

cheeky little shit

I would kill for another season of log horizon
that was literally one of the comfiest anime ever created

Jumper Isekai

Why did you post the old, incomplete version of that bingo?

A ton of isekai have a high school academy arc user.

It would be nice. I mean, let's assume you are god, why would you summon some crappy nip high schooler pussy if you could summon, gee, i don't know, delta operative or someshit like this?
Or, even better, some competent general.

Another great show with season 2 never ever. I read the LN but it's not the same

>implying plebeians who have the ability to write the tactics of a competent general would not be competent generals themselves
etc.

ur a homo

>tfw optimise an often used spell component to require about half the fairy dust through an obscure alchemical trick
>tfw make custom patches to a known open-source spell because it's almost perfect, barring this one little thing only you need
>tfw draft a quick cantrip calling several more powerful spells and another cantrip to interact with one another
>tfw laughing at illusion practicioners practically reinventing the basics of magic from scratch, in a stupid way, for no reason
>tfw crying because somehow they earn more than you now
It will probably be annoying if overdone, but I feel there's still potential here.

There’s still the 3 heavy hitters to be adapted.
Slime, spider and ogre.

>ogre
said no one ever.

>ogre
I mean, if you enjoy a story about a NEET cavedweller living out his NEET cavedweller power fantasies

>NEET
He’s a soldier from the future, that’s why he has no problem killing and raping for his own benefit.
No one but madhouse could do the anime justice.

I would rather take dadsword than those 3.

Has isekai finally gone too far? When do we pull the plug?