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/Fsg/ - Fascism General

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Thread for discussion of all forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. and the sharing of fascist literature and information.

A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested


conservapedia.com/Fascist_Manifesto,_1919

worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm

reakt.org/fiume/charter_of_carnaro.html


uploadmb.com/dw.php?id=1389982155

Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"


Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction

>Daddy Oswald Mosely
>Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera
>Benito Mussolini
>Adolf Hitler
>Stepan Bandera
>Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
>Salazar
>Ramiro Ledesma Ramos
>Ettore Ovazza
>Gaetano Mosca
>Friedrich Nietzsche
>Charles Maurras
>Enrico Corradini
>Filippo Tommaso Marinetti
>Johann Plenge
>Alceste De Ambris
>Gabriele d'Annunzio
>George Lincoln Rockwell
>Juan Perón
>Giovanni Gentile
>Julius Evola

Types of Fascism

>Italian Fascism
>Falangism
>National-Syndicalism
>British Union
>National-Socialism
>Strasserism
>Clerical Fascism
>Brazilian Integralism
>Peronism
>Legionarism

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How is everyone doing today?

Share some fash music, art and just generally have a /comfy/ time

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What was happening in Italy?

The youth seem to be taking a right wing approach by voting for the populist "Five Star Movement". Racism seems to be in the rise as well as some people openly displaying Fascist allegiance

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Bump

Oh shit.

Messing around at the moment, thoughts on the name? Imagery?

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I better tidy up the statue edging.

Oh, God, it's back!
Anything more to add to my music collection? I also have a bunch of SS and Wehrmacht songs but did not fit on the list

Being fash is the new punk

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Maybe add more classical and military imagery and stuff that you would also associate with New Zealand

New Zealand Vanguard could also be a good name

The Blue line in the fern bothers me a bit. Looks good but could look better, Maybe decrease the thickness of the horizontal section. But it may only be me, so don't take it too seriously.
But I like the shape, it reminds me of perspective studies. Maybe you can play with that concept on propaganda; like something casting a shadow with the shape of it or something.

Now onto the propaganda piece, it could be a lot better. What are you going to use it for? Printed or digital?
What is the image and artistic direction you want your movement to have? Unless you are going full esoteric you need more contrast. Also, it being white and with so little contrast gives a weak impression, as if the thing had been sitting bleaching on the sun for a while.

Study a bit of composition and colors, you want your piece to strike and attract viewers. Starting to give your insignia the front and center place is also a good idea, you want to engrave that insignia into the subconscious of people

>Vanguard
I like it, I am stealing that name, nothing personel, kiddo

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Easter Friday Tomorrow, I'll make some more for tomorrows thread then.

Cheers, I'll take more time and actually do something artistic after some study.

OP, include Rodzaevsky in yer list (Russian fascist)

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It also helps to take inspiration from other pieces. Not stealing, but understanding the ideas behind their design and using those IDEAS, not their DESIGNS.

For example, I am looking into Mexican woodblock prints, there is next to no information on it, but it is a very impressive medium, full contrast and chaos as opposed to the soft colors and shapes of japanese woodblock carving. My plan is to understand the design concepts behind it and than use it for my own art pieces

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Will do I'll add it to my document for the next thread

what do anons do when they are confronted over fash allegiance in public, i just got a haircut and i wore my nra shirt and realized i have no script to run when asked if im some nazi lunatic by someone

i have no fucking idea what to say to normies pls help

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Just play into their normieism by giving normie responses, they're too ignorant of fascism or national socialism to understand what either stand for
>Uhh a Nazi would want to take away guns and I want people to keep them how can I be a nazi???

It's all so tiresome. Communists are actively destroying civilization and taking people's freedoms away. While fascists are getting swole, raising a family/getting a raise, and trying to fix the damages caused by the commies.. but we're the bad guys?

I've been trying Enoch's suggestion of trying to redpill 1 or 2 friends a year to double our efforts, and it's going alright. But I just wish I could do more, I work too god damn much though..

I know that feel...
I've been slowly redpilling my girlfriend and friends on a few issues (with some pretty good success) but no matter how much I do I feel we'll always be seen as the bad guys unless there was some sort of major event

ye true
i have toyed with saying i'm a "traditionalist" idk i dont want to get blacklisted everywhere

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Ride the Tiger, be attractive and talk pretty, brah. Even if you commit the crime of being a fascist people will hear you as long as you look good and sound good

Trying to move the few fascists I know to do more than self improve has been a chore. We dont even have real online communities or our news websites etc.

Too many of us are more focused on just having fun online and self improvement and little more.

No, don't reinforce the MSM lies about Fascism/NatSoc. Hitler did not take away guns.

a major moment for me was calling natsoc by its true name and not using nazi in class - i was like pic related until it was over

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Legion & Vanguard (although we like it) are scary words for the normies

maybe using Identitarian or Patriots could be better

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Yeah it's like we're trying our best to be the change for good, reason, and liberty.. but it's all a fruitless endeavor because we're too few and (((they're))) too many.

Even my pals, they're smart & they hate commies.. but they're basically Vargs. Which is respectable.. but not what we need to make a change on a national scale.

Appeasement never wins.

Next stage: Saying "the National Socialists" followed by "who did nothing wrong"

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He looks like the Silver Surfer there.

yes but it's also silly to not learn from the mistakes of previous movements that have failed.

what is NZL anyway ? depending on how far right it's going to present itself should determine the name

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But in return it sounds too generic and boring, it makes sense, since we are talking abut the same kind of normie that only eats at chain restaurantes and only watches sequels or movies from an existing frachise.
Still, remember that Mosley said that avoiding the truth for the sake of PR is lying

The Doctrine of fascism defines that as intellectualism, the act of separating thought from action. And since Fascism is all about unity and action then this is a no-no.
Oh, you have seen nothing yet, kiddo
>“Remussolini” Stanisław Szukalski 1932
>Mussolini depicted as an allegory of Capitoline Wolf.

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silver surfer is pretty aesthetic 2bh
>SS

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Wow that's beautiful.

Can you elaborate, what's a no-no exactly? My ideology is woven into my work ethic and my choice of friendship, how am I to separate it? Also ciao from Canada, my grandfather was born in Calabria.

Does anyone know how I can teach my dog to give the Nazi salute like that?

My bad I thought that was an Italian flag

Same how you teach it the "paw" command but instead you say "SEIG HEIL!"

Holy shit. Looking at some of Szukalski's work immediately made me think of Jack Kirby (creator of Silver Surfer) comic book art. He was Jewish, but was considerably based, because he hated Stan Lee for being such a money-grubbing marketing mogul.

By committing a crime

have a bump

A lot of Jews worked with Mussolini, it wasn’t until Hitler that he starter persecuting them. The Legi had even relations with them.
Mosley too did not had problems with jews for what they were but for what they did, which is the way I think it should be. It there is a group of jews who want to redeem themselves then they should be given the opportunity

That's gay as fuck, fascism is about commitment and radicalism. Watering shit down for mass appeal is the path to failure

>no EcoFa
enjoy life in your toxic hellscape

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SAGE

Mosley's reputation was ruined because of the Jew hating Nazi sympathizers in his ranks unfortunately

If the British hadn't intercepted all of Lehi's letters to the Axis, we would've had seen a fascist Israel

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I'd agree with that.

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i fucking feel

in my head i know why im a fash, but i dont have the answers straight away when someone asks the simplest questions. I think we both need to find or make some FAQs and memorize the answers

>Fascist Israel
Not sure how I'd feel about that

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What kind of questions do you usually get asked? I may be able to write one up

DELETE THIS

What I am saying is that We think without acting.
Fascism is about Unity and action. Unite all social clases, unite worker and lords, Religion and Science, unite all truths.
This is why Fascism is against democracy (which separates people with voting factions), communism (which separates all social clases), specialisation in work (which separates the worker from his product) and, among others, Intellectualism; which separates thought from action.
If you want something you must act now, if you want social change then you must do it directly and not waste your time on voting nor waiting for some politician to fix your problems for you, if you believe in something you must act NOW.
At this moment manny of us are still in an intellectual state, we think of social change but just like hippies we don't act much. This is like the thought manny have of "My real life hasn't started yet". This is pure intellectualism

haha
the sage goes into the Options field, not the name, you silly user :^)

well, let's see... you gotta try to hide your power level, but usually its always a surprise to hear when someone is a fascist.

One i hear often is "why", to which every fascist's answer is his own
Some more could be...

Do you want a police state?
Why are you anti-freedom?
Do you support racism? (naturally, this question goes along with " so you like hitler?")
How is having a dictator better than democracy? Wouldn't that lead to more corruption?
Why are you anti-individualist?
How come you are a fascist, since fascism always failed?
Do you support Imperialism?

These are the ones i could think of

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What should be our stance on death?

>[The Aztecs] knew they were killing their fellow men. It was that humanity which defined them as victims. The Mexica [Aztec] genius, deployed across the astonishing stretch of their ceremonial life, was to figure a human stance within the inhuman conditions of existence.’
>It is a superb summation, but it does not remove a sense of unease. The alien quality of the Aztec world does not come simply from the fact that they made a spectacle of killing. The Romans did as much in their gladiatorial games, but they did so for the sake of entertainment. The uncanniness of the Aztecs comes from the fact that they killed in order to create meaning in their lives. It is as if by practising human sacrifice as they did the Aztecs were unveiling something that in our world has been covered up.
John Gray, The Soul of the Marionette

I don't hide my power level, I usually only don't talk without being asked. When I am asked I answer with the truth, but I word it so I increase my possibilities of the other understanding.
Or I joke about that stuff and then people do not know if I am joking or telling the truth

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Read Hagakure if you want a samurai perspective on death. Im reading it rn and I am getting a lot of death fetishization vibes from it. basically, to die a glorious death is your ultimate goal. When faced with an adversary, enter a state of death frenzy (Shigurui), and don't worry about anything - for you will die defending your honor, and there is nothing better than that. Think of yourself as already dead, and this will not be challenging.

It's a rough draft... But how is this?
I'm open to corrections and changes. I wrote this quite hastily

The Fascist FAQ

>Why are you a Fascist?
I believe we require strong leadership to lead us as a nation and that we require a return to tradition, cultural preservation and nationalism.

>Do you want a police state?
Not at all, I just want a strong government that actually has the ability to protect us from criminals terrorists etc.

>Why are you anti-freedom?
Fascism isn't inherently anti freedom, there were even fascist groups who opposed the Nazis and are even held as heros because of their role in resisting the Nazi war machine

>Do you support racism?
Fascism isn't inherently racist, there's even some forms that call for the elimination of race in a country through different races having children to create a even stronger sense of unity in a nation and to eliminate racial conflict

>so you like hitler?
Although I may like his principles and policies, his actions in the second world war and the persecution of the Jews are completely separate from my beliefs

>How is having a dictator better than democracy?
There are actually democratic forms of fascism, Oswald Mosley for example believed fascism in the UK should be democratic. Also a strong leader that isn't held back by democratic restrictions could act more quicker and efficiently

>Wouldn't that lead to more corruption?
Corruption is part of any form of government be it Democratic, Communist or Fascist however a strong leader who is nationalistic and wants to see his country prosper wouldn't be as easily swayed by corruption


>Why are you anti-individualist?
I'm not, you can still be a individual but traits that are damaging to society and are degenerate makes a society more chaotic


>How come you are a fascist, since fascism always failed?
I simply have faith in it as a ideology and a world view and I believe democracy is failing us

The great war really killed the "war for honor" thing. War became mechanical, impersonal and casualties became numbersa so large that they los all meaning. You can see this in the Metaphysics of War by Julius Evola, that you must separate people from the battle as much as you can if you want to maintain morale.
I am not saying that we should do war for the sake of honor, gut that we should try to rescue the romance of self-sacrifice for things like honor and self-realization. Now days we see sacrifice as something you do only for others, never for yourself, as if the individual did not needed to be at peace with himself first, then serve his people

The Aztecs sacrificed warriors in order to feed the Sun so he could stop the Moon from destroying the earth. The blood of warriors kept the universe alive. Things like this should not be forgotten, sacrifice of "Blood" should be something that is always present in (at least) my culture, if it is not a literal sacrifice then it must be made into an allegorical ritual

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Looks good would join.

fuckin perfect. I suggest posting this somewhere and providing a link to these FAQs every time you post /fsg/

yea that's a shame. I completely agree with the fascist view on war, that hard times make strong men, and strong men create good times. Therefore, a culture of hardship and masculinity must be maintained at all times. However, the horrors of both world wars, and smaller wars that followed afterwards show how it's seemingly not as glorious as advertised. Sadly, people take this as a reason to abandon a cult of masculinity and emasculate themselves, thereby worsening society.

I think we need to bring back the view that war and struggle is a glorious thing

I'll probably post it as the first reply whenever I make a /fsg/ thread

You keen on chatting via email? If we both make throwaway emails to contact could be decent. I've been looking for other fascists in NZ, so far only found one other.

Can I play too?

Do you want a police state?
I want law and order, rule of law not dependent of man
Why are you anti-freedom?
I much rather be free of vice than to be free to satisfy those vices
Do you support racism? (naturally, this question goes along with " so you like hitler?")
Hating someone because of his race and not his actions is stupid, just like forgiving someone because of his race. However, stereotypes are trends and trends exist for a reason
>How is having a dictator better than democracy?
I would need to write a whole book to explain this, but basically: Democracy separates people, look at the US and how people hate each other based on who they vote for. Democracy is asking the common man on how to run a country, the average voter only votes for a party and understands nothing about economics nor public administration, asking for their opinion os stupid
On the other side, democracy is used as a way to apease the masses, as if just because the majority elected someone it means that you have any control on issues that matter to you, instead of voting someone into office and have him try to fix your problems you should fix your problems yourself in coordination with others.
Then there's the issue that moden elections are nothing bur promises and lies, do you really believe in democracy as a way to change a country after all this presidents we have had? Should I remind you that the time countries advance more is then they have an authoritarian body acting?
Lastly, I am against dictatorships because they do not last, the constitution and it's laws are important, things must be written, I only disagree that the highest seat on the nation should be put on to a popularity competition.
I want economists to control economics, teachers to be in control of education and so on
>Wouldn't that lead to more corruption?
The only things that lead to corruption is a lack of morality and a complicated and non transparent system
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>Fascism isn't inherently racist, there's even some forms that call for the elimination of race in a country through different races having children to create a even stronger sense of unity in a nation and to eliminate racial conflict

Thats interesting. Which ones?

I believe integralism if I remember correctly

Just realized it cuts off let me fix it

>Why are you anti-individualist?
Think of a wolf, by itself it is pretty strong, but toghether they are much stronger
>How come you are a fascist, since fascism always failed?
Fascism as a system never failed, Germany, Italy and Japan went thought a huge economic ad moral boom. Even decades after the war you still had ex Axis soldiers who swore over it and wished it to see it again. It did not failed, it was destroyed.
Communism fell by it's own, capitalism is on live support and is in moral ruin. Fascism needed the forces on the entire world to destroy it and yet it's spirit is still alive.
>Do you support Imperialism?
Empire is the enemy of nations

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Wow this is legit garbage

U call urself a fascist?

Faggot

To be fair it's like 4am

People also need to understand that fascism is very broad. Not broad like that of communism (which are many minor variations) but broad as in it truly is the 3rd position.

It cares not of the right or left distinctions many are hooked on, it only looks at what benefits people. If the nation would be better off nationalizing it's transport then so be it. Likewise, if a private transport company would be better for all then that is what will be done.

What works for one country will be vastly different to what will work in another. This is why fascism is potentially powerful, it can be tailor made to suit any country no matter the racial makeup, religion or size etc.

So when people attack you for being one, make sure the fascism you think would work in your nation is well defined in your own thoughts.

Integralism wanted to unite all races by mixing it until a Brazilian race was created. Mexican Synarchism wanted to destroy the in-fighting within Mexico, Germany too; it united the Noth, South and Austria under a single banner and there was unity inside the nation

I could make it, just give me the text and I could post a few demos

Good enough?

I fucking cut it off again am I literally reatrded

>becomes a tripfag
>Destroys credibility in first few posts by repeatedly fucking up
Just fuck me up senpai 3rd times a charm

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It's ok, user. We have all being trough that

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