Why are Amerimutts against free healthcare?

Every civilized first world country has free healthcare except for Americans. Why do you let the rich cuck you so hard amerimutts?

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It's not free.

>You have cancer
>we will put you on a 16 month waiting list to see a specialist to determine if you need to get on a 4 month waiting list for chemo or a 6 month waiting list for surgery

no, they don't have free health care.

>paying for fatties shitty eating habits
>paying for a slut's promiscuous lifestyle
>paying for smokers lung cancer treatment

Why am I obliged to pay for other people's shitty decisions and lack of self control, and if these people had free healthcare, why would they be obliged to live a healthy lifestyle?

Better than nothing I suppose. It's not like there aren't private hospitals in canada or here in Mexico.

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>The solution for high demand of healthcare is to take it away from so many people the line doesn't exist anymore.

nobody is against free healthcare genius. Socialised healthcare is expensive lower quality healthcare.

Fake news

>"free" Healthcare
Are you literally retarded?

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t. fatass

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this lol

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What did he mean by this?

Or in the case of my grandfather

>lol you have lung cancer and we could have diagnosed it weeks ago sry

>tfw I've been unemployed for 6 months and I don't have heath insurance
Hopefully I don't need heath care any time soon.

This. Fuck your 60-70 percent taxes. Also, didn't the UK just have to cancel 50k scheduled surgeries because there wasn't enough money to cover it all?

He makes a very valid part. Do you think when your car breaks down that everyone should help you repair it even though you know you never changed the oil or kept up with maintenance?

If you do, you're simply a lazy fuck with no drive.

>My stomach hurts
>we will put you on a 3 month waiting list to see a specialist
>3 months later...
>The specialist ask for cat scans
>we will put you on a 3 month waiting list for the scans
>3 months later...
>you have cancer
>we will put you on a 4 month waiting list for an oncologist
>you die,
>but look at the bright side, you only pay indirectly for all that healthcare

Walt was a public school teacher. He was both union and government. He had the best insurance normal people can get.

The show and that meme were badly written.

Damn I miss that show...

"Free"

Cuz we’re not commies faggot.

My point was that most people with illness didn't consciously bring it upon themselves. As people get older their bodies malfunction.

Oh? Free huh?
So Canada is going to pay for America's healthcare?
So generous of you.

healthcare isn't free. dumb fucking leaf

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There is no perfect healthcare system and there is never free healthcare as the cost is often offset by taxes, low administration costs, or other governmental actions that keep the cost to the patient low. America fails because it's medical records system is obsolete, its administrative costs are high, and competition among medical providers is reduced.

No one in Canada pays 60-70% taxes you brainlet. Even top one percenters like my parents pay just 40% income tax.

And that's fine. But the majority of people's health problems stem from neglecting hygiene and fitness as well as making bad decisions as far as drinking and smoking incessantly. I'm one of those people. I wouldn't dare dream of making someone pay for my doctor's bills. Nor would I dream of wanting to pay 60-70 percent income tax. If single payer healthcare is so great why do Canadians come to the US for treatments all the time?

individualism was taken too far in America. America thinks it can operate as society that doesn't force a collectivized system (literally society).

plus would u want to (pay) for healthcare if u were in a 56% white country? XD

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I was referring moreso to countries like Denmark, Sweden, and other European countries. Also, your single payer healthcare system sucks and waiting lists for surgeries and treatment are beyond ridiculous.

Too many illegals will crash the system. Deport them and secure the border and we'll talk. Make basic healthcare free but dumb shit like tranny ops or some 95 year old's third quadruple bypass has gotta come out of pocket.

That'll be a short season.

Walter White struggles with his cancer, as he is given 10 aspirin pills and sent home. He is scheduled for chemotherapy in 2 years, the waiting list for non-lethal treatments like back pain having sky-rocketed since the Immigrant Crisis. After 2 months his cancer spreads to his testicles which rupture and he bleeds out in a pool of blood and semen.

His wife, without the care of a powerful mustache'd man is quickly kidnapped in her own home and forced into a marriage with a man named Muhammad.

The end.

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Kekd

>just 40%

Can I get someone who isn't from america to fact check some of this shit??

If a rich person doesn't want to wait they can go to American private hospitals.

>next week
>ends up being 3 years

Alberta Health murdered my mother.

>6 gorrillion taxes

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I made a typo, they actually pay 50% of income to taxes. That's still not so bad though.

I don't oppose pre-existing condition protection for those who simply have congenital ailments or medicare for the elderly who've payed into the government all their lives, I just dislike the idea of universal healthcare because you have no incentive to be healthy like you would even when receiving charity as people aren't gonna help you if they think you've brought something upon yourself.

and if America gets a shitty system like yours. Where will they go?
Why is he paying taxes if he has to leave the country for timely healthcare?

Before Obamacare (when the show takes place) many insurance plans didn't have an out of pocket maximum.

So, that resulted in your insurance plan covering say, 75-90% of expenses. So it would still cost him many thousands and thousands more than he could afford. Keep in mind, his teacher salary wouldn't even pay for his normal bills and he had to also work a second job.

I feel absolutely no loyalty to or sympathy for the fat, retarded, mongrelized abominations that have displaced the American people I once knew and loved. I will not pay for their healthcare or any of their poor choices, I would rather them all die than pay for anything at all. This country deserves to be destroyed, I hate it and eagerly await the day that its entire polity gets thrown into the garbage dump of history where it belongs.

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She could go to American private hospitals if she needed healthcare that quickly. It's her own fault.

He wasn’t selling meth to pay for the health care you idiot, he did it because it at first stopped him from working, and second, he was terminal and wanted to be able to provide enough for his family after he died. Try not being a brainlet

>You have cancer
>Go home and wait for the next few months until the sand niggers get their treatments first with your money

>18/167 countries
nice sample

>americans would rather their people die in the streets than to pay more in tax so everyone can get treatment

>just don't get sick

kek

>Canada is great we have free healthcare
>wait times are so long it’s essentially useless
>”lol just go to america”

How are Canadians not just a parody of themselves at this point?

Why should I pay for someone who needs dialysis three times a week because they eat themselves into a near coma every day when I haven’t been to the doctor in almost 10 years?

He had his treatment, medicine, and family expenses paid off in the show. He turned it down because he didn't want gibmedats.

/end

Why should we have to pay to subsidize the fucking blacks and spics? Medicaid is bad enough as is.

Because illegals and niggers abuse and get it for free. It is free, unless you look white.

>foreign retards not knowing what Medicaid is

I’m a college student and even I qualify for Medicaid. It literally pays for anything I could ever need, and then some. This “people are dying on the streets” meme is so fucking dumb. Furthermore, if you need treatment, hospitals CANNOT by law decline you care because of inability to pay. Period. Full stop. Your argument is invalid.

how it actually goes:
>you have advanced stage 4 cancer
>the only oncologist in this area has a 6 month waiting list
>wait 6 months without proper treatment, cancer gets worse
>it's no long worth it to treat you, here are some brochures for hospice care

This is true. His former business partner was going to pay it all and he turned it down out of spite.

>free healthcare
Please explain this free health care bullshit to me as I am totally unaware of it.
We should receive a receipt from the doctor or hospital when we leave giving us a break down of costs.
Nothing is free about health care Leaf!

My point is that if he has a problem with our system he can fuck off to another country. Dont you guys say the same thing about people who don't like the 2nd amendment?

>only smokers get cancer

What did he mean by this?

>what is a metaphor?
>yes goy go to the hospital so you can live in debt slavery for the rest of your life

Because, like taxes, you aren't directly paying for those people but the system itself. However, the system America currently has is faulty with high administration costs and little to no protection for the poor. If the government mandates costs across the medical industry and made the system compulsory then you wouldn't have millionaire doctors and a country with some of the highest medical costs.

You’re missing the point
>brag about quality of healthcare
>get asked a “what about...” question related to healthcare that points out flaws
>tell him to go elsewhere for his healthcare

We're explaining to you that a lot of people do not get treated on time in Canada.
It's worst to regulate a finite resource (treatment) by making you wait than asking for compensation.
You have no option in the first case, you have options in the second.

>You have cancer
>Treatment starts in 2 years
>There is a lineup of "labour migrants" ahead of you on welfare
K.

If we get government healthcare, can we add in a fat tax to pay for it?

The NHS cancelled 50,000 surgeries but approved 500 labiaplasty surgeries for girls under 12. Bless England

I’m not paying directly for them, I’m just paying for a system catered directly toward them and people like them.

Our NHS services are full of low paid, overworked niggers, pakis and slavs without the skills to cope. It's a fucking joke and I'm sick of other Britcucks defending it. This winter they've been at breaking point and thousands have died needlessly.

Fuck the NHS.

My point is that you canacucks talk about your system like this progressive free healthcare wonderland and america’s is outdated and shitty, then when people die because they can’t get this magical free treatment you suggest they go to America. You’re not wrong, but you don’t seem to realize how you are making the case against your own system.

>being purposely obtuse

I specifically referenced SMOKER's cancer, not cancer in general you faggot

>free healthcare
NO.
Fuck you, you CAN'T produce healthcare from nothing! Someone HAS to pay for it- services, medicine, tools, buildings, ambulances, salaries, all of it.
That "someone" is either the taxpayers, or the future taxpayers (in a debt-based system).

The only thing in life that’s free is suffering and the air you breathe, and I’m some cases even that’s not true either.

what is your problem? do you even know how society was made? we humans need each other, why do you think its bad to help other people? do you really think that the fraction of money that they take from your income for "free" health care would really matter? you really are that big of a selfish retard? what the fuck is your problem

Nothing is free you ignorant fuck...

There's nothing preventing people from paying to get treated in a private hospital quicker (same in Aus).

That doesn’t happen. You’re making an argument based on an fictional hypothetical event. You probably saw one of those screen caps showing a huge medical bill but are too dumb to realize we have a thing called private insurance. In the event you are so fucking bad at managing your life and your finances that you can’t afford insurance, there are all kinds of gubmint programs that will pay all your medical bills. Honestly I’d be fine with the fictional system you’re describing, where the uninsured die in the streets, because those people are invariably worthless anyway. There is no excuse to not be able to afford insurance.

> be American
> discover I have cancer
> cash out some Bitcoin
> cancer removed within 6 months
> still plenty of Bitcoin to last until cybernetic implants become available

Like stop being poor.

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>implying people can actually get private insurance if they aren't healthy

>why would you want to keep more of your hard earned income when you can give it to a bunch of worthless people who want gender reassignment surgery and need health care because they spend all their food stamps on soda and junk food?
Fuck them. They can die for all I care.

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Except in America, youd get treatment in a week at most and your insurance would pay for it ya fucking retard

Only an Amerimutt would call social welfare, an idea invented by Otto von Bismarck to COUNTER socialists a communist policy.
I do however think that social welfare will always fail with diversity. Capitalism, however, fails no matter what.

>Be american
>Can´t afford healthcare
>Die

Literally 3rd world.

Because it's your responsibility to help your fellow citizen. Just because someone is fat doesn't mean they deserve to die because they were born with bad genes that make them gain weight.

This is actually fine because rich people pay more tax. So ordinary people won't have to pay as much.

this

>implying there isn't a law against that

>little to no protection for the poor
Your ignorance is incredible. I guarantee you heard that talking point from some bullshit leftist outlet like huffpo or MSNBC and are just parroting it. It is SO easy to get healthcare gibs in this country.

Again, your ignorance of our country is causing you to describe a system that does not reflect reality. Argument discarded.

Oh yes, I went to Muttdonald’s the other day and ordered a genes mac with a large gene cola and gene fries.

Sorry but according him because 100% of american healthcare spending and hospital visits are for gender reassignment surgery and he doesn't want to subside that.

Don't forget the piss poor quality of medicine on top of that. Yanks have the market cornered on cancer treatment. Socialised healthcare is at least 10 years behind.

Why do they come here for hip replacements?

/thread and sage

>Honestly I’d be fine with the fictional system you’re describing, where the uninsured die in the streets, because those people are invariably worthless anyway.

What about people who can't get insurance due to preexisting conditions like Boogie youtuber guy.

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FREE
doesnt mean what you think it does
stupid fucking leaf
every time

I don't have a problem with a free national health service, but before that can happen, we have a lot of things we need to address, like smokers, the morbidly obese and illegals

That will be repealed by Trump.