Stone and RxL have already reached stagnation and aren't even growing at 3 volumes. RIP
Daniel Lopez
With this BC should have over 5 million in sales. Digital sales are strong and the boost will continue for the entire anime’s length.
Ryan Hernandez
What made the Death Note anime famous was the direction, not the studio. And Neverland needs that, because compared to Death Note, the chapters are pretty boring.
Samuel Thomas
139671 *140431 Black Clover 14
Where is the anime boost?
Evan Kelly
>Volume 15(28 Days) - 31,852(522,623) >Volume 16(39 Days) - 14,356 (514,260) The last arc was a mistake
Hudson Parker
I thought One Piece would dominate those lists I guess I was wrong
Chase Cook
Agree.
Mason Bennett
weekly sales
Eli Evans
You do realize those are the same arc right?
David Gonzalez
tpn just got there because it was pushed. otherwise, it would still be selling 150k per volume.
Dominic Butler
>*33895 2201180 One Piece 87
There is nothing even close to this on the list, the next closes manga are like 1/4th the sales.
Chase Richardson
Guess some nips finally realized that last arc was garbage
Jonathan Morales
ah, the second number are the actual sales?
Jordan Rogers
>*88438 **89077 Kimetsu no Yaiba 9 Hope it reaches 100k in the first week when the next volume is out.
Aaron Lopez
Total sales, the left number is the sales for the week. The first week is the most important typically, sales after the first month are just trickles.
Gabriel Green
And yet it sells well, your point?
Carter Torres
>I need justification to call the latest arc shit Every week
Jackson Jones
>And yet the point is: the anime doesn't have to be good, the advertising is that it needs to be good.
Grayson Martin
>19570 Blue Flag 3 Homoshit getting axed soon.
Parker Morris
Black Clover was pushed to hell and back.
Liam Jones
It's already sold out. There have been two more reprints scheduled this month.
Mason Walker
Cool horseshit bro
Grayson Edwards
It didn't sell out at all.They're just restocking volumes like they've always done.
Justin Torres
>sells better than 90% of the shit on Jump+ >axed
No
Connor Long
Red riot was a mistake
Connor Williams
>*14356 *514260 MHA 16 >**9023 *233744 Black Clover 13 fucking insane, didn't expect BC to be doing this well and MHA to be selling this much considering that the current arc was pretty mediocre
Angel Williams
Probably coasted off the reputation of their authors and aren't picking up new readers. Robot in particular has gotten really terrible with this stupid boring match against the black guy.
Jose Reed
Why would they sell out at 140k volumes?
Jason White
actually it was smaller compared to TPN.
Julian Wilson
Was there WSJ ToC thread today? Usually it's every Wednesday but I didn't see one this time.
Hunter Morales
read the fucking OP
Angel Ross
No ToC this week.
Liam Garcia
TPN started winning awards on its own. It was in the Manga Taisho top 10, placed second in the Davinci/NicoNico manga award, won Kono Manga ga Sugoi 2018.
Liam Morales
What gave the boost to Neverland were Oda and that famous TV show.
Parker Young
>Oda What?
Evan Flores
Oda recommended Neverland in one of the covers. Togashi did it for Kimetsu.
Eli Ortiz
How do you guys feel about these yearly averages floating around?
Robert Carter
I've seen 3 of them posted on Sup Forums, so I saved them to compare their numbers
Adam Allen
Oh I see, thank you I didn't know.
Landon Gomez
This was the most recent one posted
Joseph Russell
How does No. 1 still survive?
Isaiah Ramirez
After the new editor-in-chief appeared, these lists became meaningless. The change in the ToC rankings was too sudden to be believable.
Nathan Wright
Jump wants a variety of titles and it's the only gag manga they got besides Saiki.
Levi Hernandez
Neverland is getting a jump festa panel on the 16th by its editor, is there any chance for this to be an anime announcement?
Christian Young
Maybe? I think that Jump does anime announcement on color pages or covers more frequently, no?
Nathaniel Morgan
Do you know how freaking early this is? Usually Jump manga get an anime when the series hit around 85-110 chapters.
Jordan Hill
Announcement doesn't mean the anime will come any time soon.
Brayden Cox
Retards ladies and gentlemen
Adam Jenkins
It's golf, what did you expect?
Josiah Gonzalez
If those tables are right, then it survives because the gap between it and the cancel fodder is wide. It's apparently averaging 2-3 places ahead of them, you can use it as a benchmark where if a series does worse than Spring Weapon you know it's dead meat
Nicholas Mitchell
>pushed Most of the push happened in the West. BC didn't get the Ametalk which would have made the difference. TPN got manga awards and Ametalk which boosted its popularity in Japan. I think it deserves the popularity, not that I am complaining.
Parker Morales
It's like that old joke of being chased by a bear, you only need to outrun your friend.
The cancellation bear is in hibernation, it awakes every 2-3 months to sate its hunger, it only needs to devour 2-3 manga every time, and Spring Weapon is gaming that system by just staying 2-3 steps ahead of its peers.
Easton Gomez
>Most of the push happened in the West No it didn't. Black Clover had two cover pages in a row which doesn't happen to most manga in Jump other than fucking One Piece and even now they're continuing to push it
Elijah Bennett
This one actually inspired me to make my own, I used the pure rankings some user(s) post in every TOC thread. I wanted to show first and last places too. I'll probably post it in the next TOC thread.
Xavier Nelson
>two cover pages in a row >wow its' fucking something compared to the manga awards.
Xavier Nelson
>BnHA fags still seething that they aren't #2 in toc
Michael Bennett
That's probably the Kimetsufag seething. I have been seeing him with similar posts going around the ToC threads.
Nathan Sanders
Neverland hasn't won any manga awards. It was only nominated
Nicholas Bell
>tpn just got there because it was pushed
Yes, Jump tends to advertise their newer, more fresh, series because shonen shit (outside of One Piece) is only going to live for so long. Jesus how the fuck do you even function with a brain that dumb? It's basic shit.
Grayson Richardson
the guy who directed death note and attack on titan should definitely do Neverland
Dr. Stone is the next Black Clover high ranking but the manga sale can't back it up. It'd pure editor manipulation.
Jaxon Ward
That's not a reward that's a fucking ranking that changes every year >Nominated is already a big honor. Not really.
Brayden Harris
Are you fucking stupid?
Lincoln Wright
>getting the name on the newspaper is not a popularity boost. Oh yeah? This guy is funny.
Cooper Rogers
Its not even in the fucking newspaper. Since when are Neverlandfags so fucking stupid
David Nguyen
>now we argue about the relevance of newspaper and shits. Entertain me more.
Jaxon Murphy
yeah, all the new series of wsj get a recommendation on the cover by two of the most famous mangakas in japan, all new wsj series get a colol page every two weeks, all new wsj series receive advertising on TV.
the "pushed" is pejorative. don't pretend you don't understand.
Chase Sanchez
Except for Ass class and MHA they don't need push to became big
Brandon Edwards
drives the spaceship sits next to the hairy guy
Jonathan Watson
> That's not a reward that's a fucking ranking that changes every year
Elijah Carter
...
Parker Ward
Where's the award? That's just advertising it ranking 1# this year. This is an award
Asher Baker
so, in other words, the success of neverland is more due to external efforts than to its own content.
all according to the jumpkaku.
Brody Turner
if you see that "x" manga won the whatever awards, the chance to buy it is higher, user. it's not that hard to understand.
but again, in the case of tpn, the increase in sales is the result of the recommendation made by oda and some talk-show. ya can check the charts, it was from that time that the series began to sell more.
Jeremiah Bailey
TPN success can't compere with AssClass and even BnHA both of them make TPN success shameful.
Oliver Myers
Haikyu! seems to be bleeding hard right now, and what are the numbers of WNL 3? it seems to have lost a little steam but I might be wrong
Ayden Roberts
Who gives a shit as long as it is selling like hot cakes.
Benjamin Perez
Me because I want a series that can became successful without some kind of push is that really hard?
Charles Barnes
>can check the charts, it was from that time that the series began to sell more I notice that too
Jaxon Wilson
>without a push You are nonsense, being published in Jump is already a push. It is the most popular manga advertisement. No manga would sell without people knowing about them. It is like making an anime and airing it on your television, then scream at people “I want my anime to be successful!” Kimetsu still sells like shit compared to Neverland despite its solid quality, even at volume 9. You know why? Because Jump never gives it a big push. Who cares about “muh forced pushing”?! The only thing that matters is money. Fucking kick yourself off the board.
Jordan Morris
>The only thing that matters is money And people like you user are the reason anime is dying. I bet you like fairy tail and monogatari.
Michael Bennett
And are you an useless basement dweller who doesn’t work because “money is for elitists”? Fucking kill yourself, animators needs money to feed themselves and their families.
Nathan Ortiz
wow why don't they just do that for every series then
Austin Cook
i too would like to read a comic that is popular and not advertised at all, my self-worth depends on it
Kevin Wood
Is not the editor of Neverland the same as OP?
Nicholas Wilson
Kinda like how BnHA got the exact same recommendation by one of those famous authors, as well as pushed to holy right after Naruto ended. Speaking of which didn't it get an anime literally 50 chapters into its run? If anything that series got pushed way more than any of those """""pejorative""""" series you think are getting pushed.
Isaac Gomez
> I don't understand why they pushed Toriko so much! > I don't understand why they pushed Black Clover so much! > I don't understand why they pushed Dr. Stone so much!
I don't understand why they push The Promised N- wait! No, that's okay. It's not pushing if it sells.
Oliver Campbell
WTF? Are you completely oblivious to marketing? So a corporation shouldn't advertise their product the best way possible? If it would be that way most anime wouldn't even get made because most of them ads for their manga, ln etc..
Caleb Wilson
It's consistently increased in sales every new volume.
Isaac Evans
>Kinda like how BnHA got the exact same recommendation by one of those famous authors Are you talking about Oda's comment NOT ON THE COVER, but on an SBS, about a drawing that Horikoshi did for One Piece when he was 15 years old? That, btw, was done when Boku no Hero was already selling 300k per volume? > Hey, kids, this author (Horikoshi) has made a draw for my manga! > Hey, kids, buy this (TPN) manga! Yeah, the same thing. >as well as pushed to holy right after Naruto ended. By who? Boku no Hero was already popular in the magazine before Naruto ended. That's why it sold out in six days when the first volume came out. Plus: just last year Deku became one of the "big heads" on the cover of the magazine. >Speaking of which didn't it get an anime literally 50 chapters into its run? As I said, that's because the rankings were great and the volumes were selling very well. Obviously the studios would want something. Or do you think that was thought before the manga debut, like "hey, you know that author whose last two manga were a flop? let's make an anime of his new manga just because?". C'mon!
Carter Jackson
I want a board without ESLs but we can't all have what we want.
Nolan Robinson
>same discussion every fucking week
Gabriel Wright
>So a corporation shouldn't advertise their product the best way possible? funny
Dylan Campbell
> ON THE COVER Are recommendations even work? Shuukyoku Engage vol3 which received comment from Togashi is nowhere to be seen on this week oricon chart. It's ranked 221 on Shoseki (something around 4000 units), lower than many other jump+ manga.
