Why direct democracy is so unpopular? Do people really love to be ruled by jews they elect every 5 years?

Why direct democracy is so unpopular? Do people really love to be ruled by jews they elect every 5 years?

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Who tells you it's unpopular? The last hundred people I discussed this with all think voting for where taxation is spent via a smartphone app is the best idea since breast augmentation.

Not a single political party tries to achieve it.

Same reason I pay some jews to design and build a car for me, or pipe gas into my house and sell me a furnace to keep warm with.

I'm too busy buying high quality resistors from Israel to build my own audio equipment with.

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We should have Demarchy
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Do you think laws should be as complicated as car engines?

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All Society is retarded. It needs a reboot.

Older car engines that are basically like grown up legos. You can't seriously expect to have people adhere to laws they can't even understand; that violates the purpose of having a shared legal code.

You can have people who are experts at it, just like sometimes you'd want to take your lego engine to a specialist.

Because I would not like big cities like LA or New York dictating the rest of country

The difference is that I can at least decide not to buy an engine I consider too complicated or if I think the design is wrong. However I have almost zero impact on the laws and policies which I am forced to obey. My only hope is that some elected official has the same ideas and goals as me, but it is pretty unlikely. And many officials aren't even elected.

Most citizens would get annoyed/bored of the minutia of voting often on everything that goes on. Basically half the people that could vote didn't in the last presidential election so it's just easier to have a representative

What the fuck is a direct democracy.

Right but you wouldn't get the engine you want if you were one of a million other people trying to design it by direct democracy. Nobody makes exactly the bridge I want for my bass guitar, and I don't really have the time and motivation to learn to fabricate one myself, but I have thought off and on about commissioning one from perhaps an art student or as a stupid-expensive custom job.

then why didn't any one except me vote for that independent e-democracy party in australia?
people are dumb, uninformed and lazy

direct democracy would only work well in a community like Sup Forums or some libertarian gulch where everyone is informed and awake
otherwise everyone votes for gay marriage because tv said so

but I would still prefer it over "representative" democracy and voting for useless politicians and parties

>voting for where taxation is spent
or you can just pay for the services you need
think the military is good? pay your subscription
think centrelink is doing a good job for society? donate
that is true democracy, every dollar is a vote

taxation is theft, end of story

Why? Do you want rural areas to rule cities instead? You also can have autonomy and different laws in different areas.
Why is it bad? People can ignore issues they dont find important.

> taxation is theft
Doesn't mean it is bad. I want companies and rich being forced to help the society. The problem is not taxation but how taxes are spent.

Literally same shit but you don't have a representant to blame and chimp out at.

Because LA and NYC are already shitholes and I don't want their shit policies affecting the rest of country dumbass.

It's basically the lolbertarian paradise where you're expected to think it makes more sense if nobody delivers the mail or paves the roads because we can just organize to do that ourselves.

OH WAIT GUESS WHAT A GOVERNMENT IS

I would at least have some impact on it. I can also talk with people trying to convince them to vote in a certain way.

This is an autonomy issue. You can have or dont have it with any political system.

It wouldn't be bad necessarily but if it was voting by phone or having to go to a polling place once a month or something, just imagine how many political ads there would be running constantly.

So what you're talking about, really, is a lack of control that you have over your representative. This is perfectly legitimate and, I believe, among the gravest problems.

But direct democracy won't solve that anyway. At the end of the day, there is still an appointed executioner unless you want to live in Mad Max.

It would lead to mob rule almost instantly

> At the end of the day, there is still an appointed executioner
In some cases yes, tho ideally not appointed but elected. In other cases they can be replaced by referendums.

Do you think there are better ways you can contoll your representative?

There already is a huge amount of agenda pushing in msm.

Checks and balances. My representative shouldn't be my only opportunity. So, like you suggest, referenda are a good compliment to my assortment of representatives.

No, now you choose the lesser evil, while instead you can vote for what you believe is right without being tied to any party.

In large societies direct democracy can lead to factional struggles. There's a bit in the Federalist Papers about this.

In a direct democracy, who choses what the voting options are in the first place?

>direct democracy easier to rig
>retards capable of making a correct choice

Is it a problem?

It is not about making the correct choice, but your own choice. Also the situation with immigration would be way better if people could actually directly vote on it.

you have to go back paki scum

No. Now what?

Direct democracy results in the masses voting themselves money and free shit until the country is completely fucked.

>direct democracy
you mean mob rule?
you fucking shill kike

this fucking nigger

>your own choice
which is exactly why your bullshit suggestion is fucking bullshit.

you shouldnt be able to vote for what other people can do that's insane.

That's why the USA is a REPUBLIC we aspire to a set of higher ideals. we elect our leaders and the small towns and local communities can be run by direct democracy but you cannot run a whole fucking national government like that.

dont be retarded

At some point masses will realise that it is wrong.

that's a piss poor half heated SHILL BITCH response.

just fucking off yourself

Which is long after the country is fucked. There's a reason why all civilizations throughout human history retains a hierarchical structure. Even communism has the state "facilitating" (read: oppress and torture) the proles in their transition into a truly stateless and classless society.

> you shouldnt be able to vote for what other people can do that's insane.

Why? What's the point of democracy then.

>direct democracy
Quite possibly the most idiotic system of governance ever devised. Blind faith in "the people" is stupid because in general people are stupid. Do you think that the average person takes time to inform themselves on the issues of the day in an unbiased and analytical manner, to read political and economic theory and actually understand it, possesses the intellect to make the tough decisions required to run a society? Quite simply, the answer has always been, and always will be, "no". Ordinary people have no fucking idea , not even a fucking clue, how to run a society. They barely even know how to perform their own little roles as cogs in the machine - the entire concept of "democracy" is like letting the children run the household, or letting the inmates run the prison. A deluded exercise built in ivory-tower intellectuals' misguided faith in the drooling masses that they wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. The masses are simply not fit to rule themselves, they must be ruled over for their own good.

This can as well be avoided if certain people(non-whites, females, etc) won't have voting rights. Again, it is not the issue of direct democracy, represtative has the same problem.

california has direct democracy procedures

it was subverted by large corporations pretty quickly

So you are fine with jews turning your country into Brazil and later SA, because you are just a part of uninformed masses and should just accept whatever your government is doing with you.

>You say that A is bad
>Therefore, you support B

How are you going to deal with B if you dont support A?

Literally diversity.

The more diverse a voter base is, the less pleased people are with the results.

>the only way to avoid corrupt democracy is to implement MORE democracy!

>direct democracy
>invite muds by millions
>they form a majority
>decides to genocide all whuites
wew lad muh direct (((democracy)))

democracy is satan's way to destroy human race

>chink doesn't know about democracy

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>This can as well be avoided if certain people(non-whites, females, etc) won't have voting rights.
Therefore that's not direct democracy you fucking cuck homo anglo niggerfaggot!

In direct democracy, who would invite muds in the first place?

Wew lad, direct democracy is not necessary universal suffrage.

Democracy has run its course.

Direct democracy is fucking stupid and you'd know this if you studied history or philosophy or just fucking thought about it for longer than 2 minutes.

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>Why direct democracy is so unpopular?
Fear

because idiots shouldn't get to decide things they know nothing about

Where are the most directly democratic states? Greece, Spain, Portugal. Need I say more?

Surprisingly this fascist is actually giving points to direct democracy.

>democracy

lol, what an absolute idiot

Nice flag.

Nice flag.

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>Bong says USA is turning into SA or Brazil.
You're projecting so hard you've achieved liftoff.

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You're confused user. A direct Democracy is among the worst systems of government on earth. Just because a bare majority supports something doesn't mean it makes sense or respects the rights of others(Particularly private property). You see this a lot with subhumans in the third world who use muh Democracy to seize power for some group or other and then chimp out against the weaker tribes or faction.

Most people are fucking retards and really shouldn't be in charge of anything. They will just vote themselves shekels while jacking off on the internet if they could into eternity.

For historical context see the Athenian invasion of Sicily for a good example of a direct democracy's retardation in action or if you would prefer a more modern example California and it's ballot system is a great example of the consequences when a paint chewing mongrel majority faction makes decisions.

Direct democracy can only really work in small, rich, educated, homogeneous countries and even then will still often lead to faggotry and idiotic, suicidal policies like in Swedistan for example.

You fucking moron the USA is a Democratic Republic not a Direct Democracy.
How tf do you find your way on to Sup Forums without understanding that?
And you're fucking tone is all "I'm too good to bother'
I cast erectile dysfunction upon you

oops misread the OP
ignore this post or don't I retreat in shame

>direct democracy
>Tyranny of majority
>vote to get rid of direct democracy

>Why direct democracy is so unpopular?

I agree with you user, democracy is a darn good thing. It's so good that we should export it around the globe. I suggest starting with Iran.

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What if only white males older that 21 would be allowed to vote.

It's Sup Forums m8. There's no shame here.

I try to be intellectually honest, but I just glanced at the OP
I'm better than that. If we all allow ourselves to be lowered to the level of poopoo and peepee pepe then discourse on this board will halt

Sup Forums is not at all unique. It's like Jazz. After you hear it, it's gone, into the wind.

gaylord

Direct democracy sucks unless you have a monarch or dictator to lead.
Read Gaddafi's green book.

the rulers are afraid that if there actually was a democracy people might vote in their own self interests. so it must be ridiculed

Nah, it's all archived, indexed, and highly sentiment-analyzed and all that other shit I have to do for my day job.

I talk to the wind. My words are all carried away. The wind does not hear. The wind cannot hear.

You don't posses me, don't impress me, just upset my mind. Can't construct me or conduct me. Just use up my time.

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Where is Gaddafi now?

because most people are room temp IQ retards or radical fucking milk drinkers and they shouldn't be trusted to make laws

confirmed

Neurosurgeons scream for more.

Nothing he's got he really needs. 21st Century Schizoid Man.

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They shouldn't vote at all then.

Its unstable, easily corruptible and promotes division for votes.

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>wanting niggers and junkies to make laws

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it boils down to the illusion that we have democracy, people don't know that we really are under oligarchies in the west (save those Swiss fuckers, it pays to be the bankers for the rich and powerful)
Nothing is going to change until we break the magic of the Thirteen's spell over the west through media.
If you want change, then spread the Truth and have the arguments.
The more people you spread the harsh reality of our false governments and the reality of the situation, the closer we come to a greater Truth and, as a consequence, true freedom.