I don't get it. Why is rape depicted as the ultimate expression of love in Shoujo/Jousei geared anime/manga?

I don't get it. Why is rape depicted as the ultimate expression of love in Shoujo/Jousei geared anime/manga?

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It's not rape, just tough love.

Because girls like tsundere characters, but don't like physical violence, so instead they use sexual violence.

Usually the guy the super handsome, so it's idealized, you won't see rape by some fat ugly fuck in shoujo/josei. The dude who's raping is also always being very gentle.

Girls are fucked in the head.

PICKED THE FUCK UP

It's okay if the guy is hot.

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Unsympathetic trauma's entertaining.

Only manga where I could see it make sense.

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I loved this manga. But did you notice her art got progressively worse as the series was nearing the end? There was a couple volumes that looked really bad.

Because editors are men.

This series was a clusterfuck and the ending was ridiculously abrupt. Enjoyed it a fair bit though and Shion was a good character.

All people on earth, of both genders, love it when extremely attractive people want to fuck your brains out to the point of borderline rape.

But always remember:
It's not rape if you're willing.

The sequel looks atrocious.

I think the manga would have been better if it was only about the alien scientists.

The ending was definitely abrupt, but it made sense. I just thought Rin was essentially angry/violent throughout the manga for no reason.

This cannot be the same artist, I get that styles change, and PSME spanned like 10 years or something but still what the fuck?
She must've broken her hand or something.

Oh shit I forgot about this shit, time to get my dick out

Because there's a healthy chick otaku market for it, w/ a strong secondary market among dude otaku. So a lot of it gets made.

as a matter of fact, the fujo horde poses a big threat to the entire medium given the fact they have enough money to bank their fetishes

How do japanese men rape their women? I mean their dicks are smaller than mine as a 5 year old how does it work?

You mean BL lovers are gonna stop buying manga? I don't believe you.

Tell me, did you ever forgive Andre for almost raping Oscar?

Japanese women are also smaller than the 5 years old women of your country
In fact we should all go there and rape them with our dongs, even if you're not gifted you still have a bigger dick than 95% of men there

Of course I did, he went fucking blind!

On trains, with their fingers.

not stop, they will buy more
soon the big studios will start making anime for them
then anime as we know it will die

Yes, why wouldn't I?

Why did he even become blind? i never understood.

I'm glad they're getting better jobs, but I wish they'd get better taste. Good thing I like manga better than anime.

No OP, you don't understand. The truth is, there is no spoon.
When a hot as hell, alpha as fuck and ridiculously overcompetent guy forcefully approaches bland and ordinary MC, it's not a rape, it's a wet dream come true. It's a shoujo equivalent of waking up and seeing a naked, flawlessly beautiful, lovely and absolutely devoted young girl straddling you and putting your dick inside her tight, wet, virgin pussy. The difference is that women need to complicate everything and coat their sexual fantasies with pretense and emotional drama.

But what if it's a woman doing the raping?

I don't remember, wasn't it something to do with the black knight? Did he get cut in the eye or something? I don't remember.

He was wounded in one, but turned blind in both. Did the infection spread to both? I dunno.

Penguindrum is too damned confusing.

Yeah, maybe it infected his brain or something.

Rape fantasies are popular with girls.
Women are attracted to powerful men.
And being raped by a man means he has ultimate power over her.

Actually, if it's a shoujo thingy anime why arent the men getting more screentime and stuff?
All I see is a regular hentai. 95% of the screentime is on the girl's body.
Do girls see differently these things? They dont need to see the male body? Or want to see the penis and stuff?
Or do they just want to appeal the men too?

There's an "unrestrainable passion" angle too, but mainly it's for cheap drama.

I did, Andre was getting fucked over while Oscar was blind (ha!) to his drama and actually considered Farsen to become her lover once, the guy who was cucking Louis left and right.

Andre was a good guy and one little mistake shouldn't fuck him over, it was good him and Oscar got together before they died.

Women self insert into the woman by getting detailed descriptions of what is done to them. Works a little different for them.

>Do girls see differently these things? They dont need to see the male body? Or want to see the penis and stuff?
For shoujo, I've noticed it's more about the internal emotions being thought during said event.

Well, I get twice as horny if the characters show passion etc. but I can't do a shit without taking a good look at the woman

Some people can supply the visceral details themselves with their imagination. They want instead for something emotional or contextual to help inspire that imagination.

This isn't gender-exclusive, either. Just different ways of reaching the same conclusion.

I don't think girls are jerking off to love scenes in shoujo though. I dunno really though.
scenes like don't really give enough time for it, the series is more about cultivating relationships in the long run.

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So why did she forgive him?

Because she loved him, and knew he had a hard life.

Guy had a hard life, that can excuse any behavior in shoujo manga, rape and sometimes might even net the guy a win in the girls' heart, I've seen so many shoujo manga where the seemly decent guy, that even the girl knows is a better person overall, lost because she took pity on the poor hard knock life guy so she had to hook up with him to make his life better.

She gave her consent to have sex, but freaked out and wanted him to stop when she realized that he didn't want to have sex because he liked her but instead because he hated each and every person on the ship and the religion she represented. Then she thought of what a lonely and sad fuck Shion was and snapped out of her self-pity in order to save him from excile, because she actually cared for him and wanted to show him that there are good things in the world. Eventually he loved her all along without making it clear (and not knowing himself from the start)

TLDR: She loved him and it was only considred raped because she became reluctant at the thought he never loved her, but made up her mind to love him anyway.

Of course only for handsome and smooth ones.

Because it is.
God I want to be raped.

It's not, and shoujo and josei are two completely different things.

It's not exactly rape because the guy is super handsome and deep down the girl wants it even if she doesn't show it, so it makes it okay
in fact the more forceful the better since it's about the dark handsome boy breaking down the barriers that make the heroine a "good girl", thus absolving her of any responsibility for being a slut
you gotta get in the shoes of a girl in heat to really get it

the guys are hot as fuck. I wouldn't mind being kissed and seduced without warning/consent if it's by them. The women have every right to reject them and file a report, but that's not very sexy.

What about the time where the guy tried to rape somone and didn't get forgiven? The guy suffered through hell, took up to securing his team's safety through the series not wanting to see his friends die anymore, then the one time he freaks out and tries to make a move on a girl that seemly was supposed to his mate anyway, everyone gangs up on him and treats him as if he was the devil himself, his heroic deeds be damned.

I gave up on shoujo manga, all the guys I take I liking to are the ones who get fucked over.

Is this NTR the anime?

>It's not
Time to expand that Shoujo and Josei library my man, there are many series where the abusive guy is treated as the girl's perfect mate, in fact the best selling shoujo ever made is all about abusive relationships, girls loved that shit series and there's like several live dramas for it.

nah he raped his fiancee

This is why Im a sucker of shojo

Anyone with sense would. Also, it's genuinely the greatest rape scene in shoujo history, mainly because it actually makes sense.

That one shoujo manga with the manlet guy and tall girl was the only shoujo work that didn't disgust me with its predictable naive girls and abusive main dudes, because it had none of that shit.

At least the guy in pic related got shot at the end

His brother is a fucking saint

>teleports behind you
>rapes consensually

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>Fujo starter pack.

I read a psych article about this once. It's the idea of being so irresistible that a man loses all common sense and has to have the woman right there and then by any means necessary.

>think it's a cute series about a teacher slowly falling in love with a guy
>it's a fucking hentai
thanks for nothing

It's a cute hentai

What is it about breaking a hand that changes an artist's style so much? This happened to the author of Fruit's basket too

It wasn't even cute. The teacher got raped constantly, the brother tried to fuck her once and the last episode had like 20 seconds of lovey dovey stuff before they fucked like animals again.

>tfw if you even talk a girl now you will be accused of rape 10 years later

Then we all go "NIiiiiiiiiiiiice"

>it's a fucking hentai
Just because lots of sex doesn't it make it a hentai, it is an actual manga and shit.

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The TL company's next season's anime
>25 year old school girl

>user doesn't think two lovers fucking like animals in heat is cute

I thought the plot of this one is pretty shit so I'm skipping it.

Woman here.
Unironically: It's Okay If He's Hot.
Being wanted so much a dude will break the law for you is sexy (if he's hot) (especially if he's rich)

If a hot girl held you down and raped you, dudes would probably masturbate to that. A 40 year old 300lb whale with a stank crotch making you eat her out would probably be less than ideal.
I guess some dudes would be into it.

That's why you become the girl.

>consensus on Sup Forums

Oh shit guys I think we figured it out

I'm a fucking weirdo who knows hentai directors: this is directed by the dude who did Fuzzy Lips and Junjou Shoujo Et Cetera which are my favourites. Along with the character designer/assistance animation director of Fuzzy Lips who also worked on fujoshit like Okane ga Nai and Kizuna so I'm extra hyped for it.

>If a hot girl held you down and raped you, dudes would probably masturbate to that.
Keyword: Fantasy.

No shit. That's what this thread is about, fantasies. Nobody REALLY wants to get raped (ha) in real life, unless they are fucked in the head.

It's not rape if she is willing. Also, women love assertive people.

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why do these short anime always have theme songs with good melody

if by talk you mean be their boss and masturbating in front of them, then yes you may have to worry about it after ten years of doing so

But Domyouji was hot

>Masutrbate in front of someone
>Somehow get your career destroyed

I don't get this. Who does this hurt? It's not like no one has seen a dick before

> somehow
It's only career ending for ugly people.

It's the best too because it's literally
>ask a woman if you can masturbate in front of her
>she says yes
>do it
>a year later she cries harassment or something
>career destroyed
Women.
Not even once.

>Fuzzy Lips
Please let the animation at least be good.

Pretty obvious that the studios know people won't be buying the series for the story so at least the animation and OST must not disappoint to stand any chance at sales. Though if you read the subbed lyrics for the song in OP's show it's rather stalkerish.

Because modern women both 1) want to be raped, and 2) want to complain about their rape afterwards and be the center of attention. They want all of society to fawn over them and consider them irresistible.

because nips women are sexually frustated. Their men are pussies who scared to make a move. Rape fantasy help to relax their frustation a little bit.

That's not what fujo means.

>That's what this thread is about, fantasies.
You might want to read this thread again then. Nothing cynical from my part. This thread is just hilarious for me.

It confused me as well. If the only difference from
>You're doing things to me
is
>I'm doing things to you
then there really isn't much difference from H manga and shoujo erotica. There's just no focus on the top in general in all porn media, so by logic the only time a boy gets a lot of focus is when he's the one being penetrated.