Why do you hate everything related to Shounen Anime/Manga, user?

Why do you hate everything related to Shounen Anime/Manga, user?

I don't hate everything about it. Mostly just its fans.

Given that Yotsubato runs in a shounen magazine, I can only surmise that you are new and should either fuck off or lurk more.

>hate
I just grew out of it. Only One Piece and Bleach is good but mostly because those are seinen

I don't, but most of it doesn't appeal to me. I watch other things instead.

I don't hate shounen, I only hate weekly shounen jump.

I hate bad shonen, I like good shonen.

I only hate the people it attracts and make shitty threads/posts - e.g. you.

>stupid plot made up of cliches for 6 year olds
>predictable
>zero deeper meanings, no messeges, nothing to make you think
>completely unrealistic
>one dimensional characters
Basically, you have seen one, you have seen all, and they are not entertaining in any way if you have a functioning brain. A complete waste of time, space and resources.

it;s just the shit fans that overrate and underrate everything.

when they turn it into jokes and "memes" you start to get tired of it

Why did you post that picture with your post then?


>zero deeper meanings
False
>predictable
False
>unrealistic
This is fiction.

what's in here stays in here, I've never posted anything like this anywhere else.
doesn't take a genius to realize it

>>zero deeper meanings
>False
>>predictable
>False
>>unrealistic
>This is fiction.

I know what you're saying but most 7/10 animes is what he refers to, which is true

English?

wow congrats you can read English

>>zero deeper meanings
>False
>>predictable
>False
>>unrealistic
>This is fiction.
Well, I should elaborate then. By deeper meaning I don't mean obvious age old shit like: train hard! And good wins in the end!
There are no unpredictable shounen. Maybe you haven't read/watched enough.
By unrealistic, I mean unrealistic reactions, emotions and basically behaviour. I don't care about the stupid rules of whatever world the story takes place in, but unless there is an explanation, unrealistic behaviour of human beings is jarring. Some of these sadly have become cliches and since cliches are a must, we will never get rid of them.

>it's predictable
>but when characters don't act the way I want it's bad

>Sup Forums supposedly hates shounen
>but loves Yotsubato
Explain

They still act predictable, it's just even worse if they predictable, but belivable. Though this problem doesn't affect shounens alone.

I don't, I love my shonenshit. There are great manga and anime but most series aren't worth the instant noodles the author lived on while he drew them.

It's boring shit, nothing but lengthy fights.

Only big titted girls are good, but since its shonen they can't get away with nipples, or the authors are too pussy to even try.

>they still act predictable
You just said the opposite

Every shounen ever has the same characters, so after watching one, no matter how unrealistic they are, you can predict their behaviour.

>stories are usually boring and uninspired
>art is shit because most of them are weekly
>fanbase consist of retards, normalfags or fujoshi
>the only thing worth shit are tits but they are censored because it's shounen
I'm not part of their target demographic.

Who is this "you" you're talking about?

I read a lot of them.
Grew up on db,digimon, naruto, bleach.
I still read and love op.
It's a good genre for a first time anime/manga
The thing i came to despise is toei. I can't fucking watch an episode of one piece anime without cringeing.
I tried reading far tail and most recently black clover. That shit was awful, because of all the generic tropes they used.
I still think one piece is a masterpiece. Naruto was ok. Bleach started great but became more and more awful, but never as bad as fairy tail, that shit sucks.

Fuck you, the fights in Nichijou are great.

>Bleach
>Seinen

I don't hate that kids' entertainment exists. I hate fucking grown ass, emotionally stunted adults who are too stupid to appreciate real works of art who fawn over that shit.

It's fucking disgusting.

I, too, hate when people like the things that I dislike.

You can like it all you want, and I can find you liking it as offputting as I find bronies. You guys aren't any better, you're both in love with cartoons for children.

I don't.

I honestly do believe so. That's why it was so poorly ranked in SHONEN jump despite being in the top 10 sales volume wise.

>real works of art
Such as? Art is just sex and other depraved shit. I'm watching so called arthouse right fucking now.

Whoa friend, I think you'd be a much better fit over on with that disgusting infantile "every single person BUT ME" logic.

>Such as?
There are plenty of great films that aren't for children and also aren't full of 'depraved shit'. And plenty of great books for that matter.

>Such as?
real masterpieces aimed at adult audiences, like K-On

If you have an identity built around your love of children's entertainment because you have arrested development, you completely deserve to be mocked.

Especially on Sup Forums of all fucking places.

I don't, moe vs. shounen was a war for oldfag brainlets, there's good and bad stuff in any genre and aimed at any demographic.

Great suggestions user. I can see you're a true art connoisseur. That's a great list of films.

Why's that?

>stop liking what I don't like or I'll make fun of you!

Perhaps something awful or reddit is more your speed.

>Great suggestions user. I can see you're a true art connoisseur. That's a great list of films.
I gave you one, and I bet you won't even watch it. Why should I dredge up any more for you when you'll still find a reason to stick with cartoons for children?

>One
Why are you so full of yourself if when people humor you you're only capable of giving one example?

Don't respond to it. I shouldn't have even gave him an initial reply. God I wish crossboarders would get murdered.

Imagine being a grown man so self-conscious about the fact that he watches cartoons that he starts hating things that are not adult enough for him because his faux maturity is at stake.

Also Kubrick is mainstream trash for the lowest common denominator. Everyone and their aunt has heard of him.

>g-give me more or it doesn't count!
Not my job, faggot. Go look at imbd or rotten tomato rankings if that's what you're after.

Yes, and? You're the one claiming that adult entertainment is depraved trash, and you haven't even seen this film by one of the most widely known directors of all time. You're just making yourself look retarded.

>rotten tomatoes
So you can't come up with your own argument why a movie is good? You've to flock to ad populum? You listed a very popular movie and expect people to not have seen it already? That's just stupid.

Go watch
The Wayward Cloud (2005) if you want to see an actual good movie. You probably can't handle actual interesting stuff.

Literally can't even quote me correctly. You're just one sad individual. I bet you didn't even understand Bleach. You're a level zero watcher. A level zero reader. It's all clear to me now as you couldn't even comprehend my simple posts.

Because I tried discussing it on Sup Forums.

And don't tell me all threads about everything on Sup Forums are this bad. Shonen threads definitely are another level of shit.

Shounen is demographics, not a genre, it doesn't specify anything about the plot.
I blame DBS, now that shit airs even on toonami it brings worst kind of people to Sup Forums, retarded powerlevelfags who are obssessed with comparing any character with Goku or other shitter from it. Also shitloads of spics.

>So you can't come up with your own argument why a movie is good? You've to flock to ad populum? You listed a very popular movie and expect people to not have seen it already? That's just stupid.
It's good because it's beautiful and has an understanding of human nature that doesn't exist in children's cartoons. I'm not saying anything is good because it's popular, but I'm not providing you with a list either.

>Go watch
>The Wayward Cloud (2005) if you want to see an actual good movie. You probably can't handle actual interesting stuff.
I've seen plenty of art-house films. I deliberately chose not to make the conversation about that and you're acting like knowing about a foreign movie gives you some kind of deep insight into fucking anything. I'm not surprised that your first love is shounen anime, m8.

I don't think DBS alone is to blame. Hero fags for example are easily one of the worst fanbases and produce some of the worst threads on Sup Forums and they didn't come because of Dragon Ball.

Foreign movie? On a fucking imageboard discussing japanese media? Not everyone is americunt btw. Christ man you're just stupid. A level zero reader as expected. Just continues to assume and project their own insecurities upon the other. How queer.

>Foreign movie? On a fucking imageboard discussing japanese media?
The movie you linked is Taiwanese, you dribbling retard.

>american reading comprehension

Christ you might be a -1 level reader if you keep this up. No seriously. Are you just pretending?

Is one piece favored because the jump logo is a pirate?

The fact that you're pitching a fit because I said 'foreign film' on a board devoted to Japanese media on an American website when talking about a film from neither country speaks for itself.

You're furious as fuck, faggot.

>furious
You can't read and you expect me to believe you understand art?

Why is the logo a pirate anyway?
was one of the very first series about pirates already or?

>One Piece goes meta and becoming King of the Pirates gives Luffy control over all SJ series.

No, it is solely DB fault, BnHA usually have one thread forced by retarded generalshitters, sometimes there are threads made by haters. BD has whole time one or two neverending generals and they spread to other shows

You expect me to take you seriously when the only thing you could post was a mainstream, well-regarded movie you couldn't even spend one concrete paragraph on as to why you thought it was good?

You're incapable of understanding children's cartoons beyond a surface level. You're incapable of understanding arthouse because you've not ever even dared to look at it. Continue watching whatever though, as you simply are too unintelligent to understand a simple story.

ITT: literal children cannot stop themselves from bickering and throwing tantrums at other literal children

why did write literal children?
what else could you mean, illiteral?

Why are you an ESL and not lurking?

>not a new IP

So you're this guy ? >right?

What do you mean pirate? The logo is a girl with a crossbones as hairpin.

what the fuck are you talking about
isn't this the official logo?

I love shounen because I’m a proud manchild

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I don't. A lot of Shonen that are pretty fun and easy reads and some authors use the long runner format to tell grand stories that wouldn't be possible in any other publication.

I think a lot of people just didn't like or "outgrew" Naruto/DBZ, etc. and have a bias against an entire demographic just because of a few prolific shows, which is retarded.

I actually don't, shounen anime is fun as fuck sometimes.
What I hate are their fanbases, which very often only have the most underaged people with the smallest power levels.

>bleach and one piece got/get published in Shonen Jump
>call them seinen

Hence why I named them in a WSJ thread

You do realize that Shonen/Seinen are no genres?

Yes? Bleach being in the wrong magazine and all. I addressed this.

Holy shit a delusional bleachfag.

No, it's just Jump. There are plenty of works from other shounen mag that are relatively well received.

I can only think of Fairy Tail and Attack on Titan, neither really good.

I'm delusional for not calling shonen a genre?

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TO ALL RETARDS THAT THINK SHOUNEN IS ALL THE SAME:
YOU ARE NEWFAGS.
Quit being fucking new and maybe learn that not every shounen manga is a long running battle manga, that just comes from people not lurking the fuck more.
What do yotsuba, naruto and magical girl apocalypse all have in common? They were all in shounen magazines. It's a demographic for magazines, not a fucking genre.

I love Shounen

but the fanbase

You probably also thought that Death Note was being published in the wrong magazine

Death Note IS seinen though. It's basically a cop story set in the real world with full of intrigue. Certanly non of the stupid energy balls and shouting and kicking at light speeds.

I loved death note as a kid so I can't really make that call. Sorry.

Damn, you really are delusional.
Either that or you have no idea what seinen actually means.

Assuming you mean shounenshit and not just the demographic, it takes WAY too long to get to the point, and even the arcs all tend to be way too similar to each other.

How does that make it a Seinen? The difference between Shonen/Seinen is only the target audience. The characters and themes of Death Note are easy enough for kids to understand so I don't see how DN is supposed to be targetted towards adults.

Yeah I was an intelligent kid back then. Sadly I share the world with idiots

>certanly non of the stupid energy balls and shouting and kicking at light speeds
There is seinen manga with that stuff in it and shonen manga without it. Death Note was appropriately aimed at adolescent males as everything about it especially excites that audience. Doesn't mean anyone else can't like it, because they did, just as they do other shonen titles.

monthly series are ok but weekly ones are pretty much always shit. just look at how much better to love ru got when it moved out of wsj.

Convince me it's actually good

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Sorry I'm not a horny teenager that doesn't know how to search for pornography. So it's actually trash that's why you have to convince me with poorly drawn generic softcore

I ont hate it but shonin is bait for newfags and spics, but guess same goes for the seasonal ecchi