Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that FranXXX was absolute shit compared to Violet Evergarden?

Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that FranXXX was absolute shit compared to Violet Evergarden?

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Zerotwo and Violetto-chan are both cute and should not fight and neither should you.

>KyoAni show airs
>their autistic cult fanbase shits up the board trying to start wars with every other show

Time to take another break from Sup Forums, I see

Is this show more Trigger or A-1?
Trying to figure out if it's garbage or not

This trash would have been salvageable if it had a female MC.

Both had mediocre first episodes, but VEG wins in art, animation, voice acting, and had less cliches thrown out at the screen. As shit as Violet as a character is, MC from Franxx is an even more annoying character.

Unlike violet evergarden the writers actually attempt to write interesting character dynamics and plot elements/ideas worth talking about.

Trigger is not even on the production committee apparently

>Board gets filled with people shitposting about a new show instead of sticking to a couple threads
That's how you know it's good.

>Even caring about comparing the two
>Useless threads about which is better

it is garbage regardless of who it made

No, evergarden was far worse. Lot more pretty, yes, but still more smelling shit

made me chuckle

I enjoyed this far more than I did with the first episode of VEG. Yuru Camp is still my AOTS though.

I LOVE BOTH.

You laugh now but actually go into a VEG thread and you'll see just how abysmall it is, the show gives you nothing worth thinking or discussing about, it's just pretty.

Subs are out soon and you and i both know anons with be shitposting and discussing about the actual content, they already are.

It's like Trigger animated an A1 series.

>dust has settled
It has just begone, FranXXX's first episode blew everfilter shit away.

This show would have been great if it had a female MC, but of course trigger had to fuck it up. You'd think they would have learned after KlK's success, but now we're just going to get blown the fuck out by kyoani and VEG.

The fact that yurucamp is your aots says a lot about your mindset.

You retarded they're completely different besides the fact they've been shilled.
Now both are underwhelming but look great and the animation is pretty good so i guess thats the only thing going for them.

Is it all just an allegory for useless neets needing to kill themselves???

>You retarded they're
Irony.

>FranXXX has extremely generic, weak self-insert male MC and tropes we've already seen in tons of anime before
>VEG has interesting setting/setup but no character depth (yet)
Both were letdowns, but more so for FranXXX. I feel like I've watched this same setup tons of times in anime before where beta high school male MC with an uninspired design whose boring life makes a 180 when he meets a super cool female character.

MC just realized he isn't gay. This alone is going to make for a good show.

Compared to Violet Evergarden? No, it was actually much more interesting and charming, but yeah it was kinda a let down, I was expecting so much more.

That's pretty much a non-brainer.
The MC behaves like a LN protagonist "oh my god boobs let me make a funny face".
The CG was terrible and took over the entire episode.
It's just episode 1 but it's already a tropefest.

By your logic PTE and VEG were much better than Franxx.

Oh boy, I can't wait to watch Evangelion again, except with Rei and Asuka crammed into one character.

I thought it was a cheap mix of Evangelion & Gunbuster

Unlike violet it's actually manages to be entertaining.

MC has solid drama and it's not overdramatized, unlike violets.
It's actually fun to see the characters interact with one another here, the lead female is cuter.

They actually had world and setting building, the animation and music is also way better, just not as pretty.

Just being honest here, violet is boring, uninteresting and presents the viewers with nothing to think or care about.
franxx is exciting and entertaining, and there's already a lot to discuss.

Franxxx puts violet to shame and it's not even close, most shows this season do.

They're both underwhelming so far in their own unique way.

VEG was shit. Literally nothing happened. I'll take some mecha show over this shit every day,

mc doesn't behave like a light novel protagonist? his reaction to random boobs only makes sense for a teenage boy.
He is far to calm and in his own head, ln protagonist are typically cynical or the best ever or something alone those lines, wish fullfilment men you can pretend you are.

Also being cliche isn't a bad thing, it's all about execution. MHA is an example of a cliche fest with terrible execution, doing things worse then the predacesors.

franxxx is the exact opposite, it'll play off a cliche but execute it in it's own unique way to keep things fresh.

Don't blame Trigger for the bad first episode, it was entirely made by A-1

Citing another tropefest doesn't make this any less of a tropefest.

>shitposters are spamming VEG everywhere to make Sup Forums hate it, not realizing they are making VEG more popular and just look dumb while at it.

Not shit but they're both unremarkable. VEG is just more consistent visually so far.

VEG has too many filters.

MC isn't gay and gets into the robot on episode 1. This is already better than Evangelion

I can see you say that about VEG, but you're just being dishonest if you think this was underwhelming, especially by comparison.

DarliFra has great animation. Violet Evergarden looks like a slideshow in comparison. The writing and designs in both are generic as fuck.

You missed the point, there is nothing inherently wrong with tropes.

They both have 1 episode, you can't talk consistency. And even it it was visuals are only half of it.

>having to remove the carcass of your enemy from your base

I know it's lifted straight from NGE but I love little shit like that

>MC from Franxx is an even more annoying character
but muh im so alone

Nah. Mechas still look like shit and it's generic big monsters attack plot.

>remake Evangelion
>remove Rei from the show

Is this perhaps the perfect anime?

How does this make you feel?

Both are crap compared to half of the shows airing this season. Nobody will care about them soon.

objectified

Thank you, my thoughts exactly. FranXX might get saved if they have some balls and give the characters actual development, but I'm not optimistic at all.

Like impregnating a robot.

How did you get past the captcha, you robot?

>beta high school male MC with an uninspired design whose boring life
You could actually watch the first episode before you spout complete nonsense you know

Well if this don't just scream "Trigger".

I like it.

Normally I'd brace for shitposting about both of them to last all season, but I think Pop Team Epic is going to fill that niche. So maybe you're right.

I really like Zero-Two personality, I hope MC will change and is going to gain self-confidence

Would actual character arcs make the show any less trite? For now, the problem isn't just that the characters look generic at first, but that the themes that they're telegraphing are generic and unimaginative.

I mean, unless you think that there simply aren't enough stories about a young teenage boy who feels like he has no place in the world coming of age by becoming a weary and damaged young woman's saviour. Also, flower sex allegories.

I was annoyed that he was all "Hurr durr naked grrl" and not "Why the fuck do you have a fish in your mouth?"

So if Zero-Two is part monster, is her whole "Darling" thing over just "Partner" indicative of some kind of animalistic mating desire?

Ask yourself, if a naked girl walked up to you with a fish, would the fish really be the thing that grabs your attention.

If yes, then congratulations you are gay

VEG was much better. Actually had animation, and there was no horrifying cg.

>all fishermen are gay

>I will now proceed to pleasure myself with this fish

what's up with mc's nonstop inner-monologue

Every day until you like it

Even if you had sex on your mind, you kind of need to do something about the fish first.

To remind you of how much you're just like him.

Or I've just seen enough porn that I'm desensitized to nudity, but not a human fishing like a dolphin.

I can't
Darling despite ridding on cliches was handled in a better manner than Evergarden. Also it isn't full of shitty filters and jump cuts out of the ass. My only problem with darling was the expository dialogue but that was just done to introduce Zero two and Hiro point of view in the plot so it should just stick in the first ep and won't have to hear it every ep.

>weird ass cult leader guy called Papa is the leader of your organisation

This is show is going to make a strange turn, mark my words

Violet Evershit didn't have enough ass shots.

This was average/good enough to keep watching. I hope they don't drop the ball.

Well Franxxx kept me entertained and VEG bored me to tears.
Niether is as good as kwa, but i'd have to say franxxx>veg if i'm being real.

I'm a bird stuck in a cage > What does "love" mean?

>Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that FranXXX was absolute shit compared to Violet Evergarden?
Not really, I would love to watch this show if 02 was the MC of it changing her partners tor kiss with every episode depending on the enemy she needs to face for, so different mecha for every kiss partner - girls and boys alike along from the side cast.

Remove the boring male MC and it could be glorious, with him it's mediocre LN shit level of a show about a special boy meeting a nude girl who makes him even more special plot going.
So much wasted potential.

What I thought about is that they could subvert the tropes they used at first, but not many people have the balls to do that or it's relatively insignificant. Like the first episode of Ga Rei Zero killing the cast off, but that was just the first episode and not the mid point of the series to be that shocking. Then anime that usually aim to do a thing like that drop you little hints, like Madoka (but that was mostly about Urobuchi's involvement).

So there's a chance they make the characters turn out not-so-generic after all or that they kill the boring characters off at a mid point, maybe Zero Two will actually kill the protagonist. But in all honesty, with this staff and everything so far I doubt it will ever happen.

That was the first time he saw a naked girl. Also, he's a teenager, what do you expect. In general, everything he thinks could be attributed to him being a teenager and hormones messing up his brain.

I find MC hilarious for some reason. His monologues make me laugh. I didn't find him annoying at all.

I'm sure he won't turn out to be evil.

this desu

Its Star Driver x Evangelion with more Trigger flair to it, it could be generic as hell and I'd still watch it. Really liked how the mechas and monster were animated in 2d.

Cain was in fact not evil, a bit misguided but not evil.

That said the one winged theme going on is pretty reminiscent of the Nissan teachings

Not really, franxxx was pretty entertaining while VEG was a bunch of nothing.

But it's a story about him and his penismech. Why would they kill him? I'm not sure that even subverts anything, it just makes it a bait-and-switch.

Unless it's actually his awakening sexuality gets him killed. But that's an odd message to send.

Unless he dies directly for having sexually assaulted his partner. But she seems too succubus for that.

Unless she's fronting and is secretly an innocent maiden. But that's just stupid.

I mean it was okay I wasn't overly hyped about the first episode, The pinky seems to be the only interesting thing.

The other characters have interesting designs too.

Hopefully we'll see them be fleshed out more in later episodes and they will actually turn out to be interesting, and not just background fodder to accentuate Zero-Two's eccentricities with their normalcy.

>Derivative in the FranXX
Fuck me, I've never been so fucking bored in a 1st episode. But hey maybe it'll pick up now that it's got the 1st episodes of all the shows that came before it out of the way.

I wish Shigeto Koyama would actually have the presence of mind to try to design mecha that look distinct from each other between different shows, or that someone would instruct him to do that. They might as well just cut the mecha scenes together from clips of Star Driver and Eureka Seven AO.

Besides that and the cookie cutter bland MC design, I've no complaints about the visuals. At least Nishigori and Tanaka will hold this together better than Yoshinari and Handa did in LWA.

>Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that FranXXX was absolute shit compared to Violet Evergarden?
To be fair, we all here can bitch about one or other and it doesn't mean anything.
Only sales matter and for that we will have to wait a bit to see which producers failed to make a good selling anime and which managed to do so with their staff choices.

It's just so simple.
KyoAni blockbuster should sell easy above 5k seeing how much value was put in it.
Trigger-A1 collaboration presented so much as completely new hype too should easily achieve that.
Fate Nero edition too should easily do that.

She is hunting fish like that because she is a part-Klaxosaur ("pistil"?). We don't know how unusual those are. If 002 isn't one of a kind, then her behavior shouldn't be surprising to Hiro.

>implying

I have lewd fantasies about her and robot from Heromam now

>there is nothing inherently wrong with tropes
It's wrong if KyoAni does it, other studios not so much

>>>/reddit/
I don't care where you came from but you ought to go back to your mother's rotten cunt.

>Ledouche is impressed by designated special snowflake waifu
Sasuga desu ne

>shitposters don't even understand point of this meme
Learn from picrelated.

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Oh shit, why the defense? I thought OP made it absolutely clear that FranXXX was absolute shit compared to Violet Evergarden?

Just fuck off to your normalfag place.

I wonder if they've got a merch deal that includes a proper transforming figure?

Since now that I know it has that Lion-mode, I want one.

I am really hating how blank the male MC is. Is this really a thing people like, where the female MC dominates the whole show?