Nisemonogatari

What in the hell is the point of this filler trash arc?

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The kaiki scene in the black and white room

It wasn't filler. Introduced some characters the MC actually gives a shit about on some personal level through his sisters, shows him and Shinobu get by without Oshino Meme doing everything for them, moreorless rounds off the development he has with his girlfriend, shows how the MC interacts with a lot of the cast in general day-to-day, and introduces the ultimate self-insert for manchildren everywhere through Kaiki.

It arguably wasn't handled that well, sure, but that's a different discussion entirely.

It gave us platinum disco and close ups of bee's thighs

I preferred Nise to Bake. Less exposition dumps, more sol and comedic moments.

Don't forget Kaiki and Ononoki-chan. Shinobu actually talking too.

Well, the show had to peak somewhere.

certainly not during nise because it was garbage

>People don't like Nisemonogatari
>Karen Bee is literally dedicated to banter with Sengoku, Kanbaru, and Hachkuji.

Plebs, all of you.

Some people failed high school literature and can't into characters.

sengoku is so fucking shit

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The basic outline of the series was never supposed to be released. It was written to be porn, and they added a point after the porn scenes were written

I would let her literally shit on me.

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Nisio in a nutshell.

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It allowed Araragi to lose his walkinghomeginity.

>this bullshit rumor again

It was garbage just like every season post-bakemonogatari.

to see whom the gay viewers are. If you didn't enjoy it then you're literally gay

The realtionship between the first 3 installments is interesting.
Bake has a lot of the hallmarks of early LNs (stuff like Boogiepop, Kara no Kyokai, Nisio's own Zaregoto series). The urban fantasy setting, the dark tone, the psychological themes. But it blends them with more light hearted stuff that you'd expect to find in modern LNs. The spastic humour, the teen drama, the raunchy fanservice.
But then Kizu amps up the early LN feel, placing massive focus on the fantasy aspects, keeping an overall grittier tone, delving inside the chaarcter's heads for a whole lot of time.
And then Nise is the oppsoite, it sidelines all those things in favour of comedy, teen antics, and sexy times.
It's like Bake was a perfect mixture, but then Nisio decided to split it in two and make the halves their own separate things.

Nise didn't sideline the psychological aspect. It did a better job of weaving it into the comedy, antics, and sexy times.

Nise was unironically better then Bakemonogatari.

Shinobu's episode was better than anything in Bake.

It was still there, but it wasn't as all encompassing as it was before. The entirety of Bake is based around it, the oddities are just metaphors for psychological concepts. Kizu's plot hinges on the mental states of Araragi and Kissshot, and has paragraphs upon paragraphs describing them. In Nise, most of the cast don't get explored much beyond their little gag segements, the plot would've unfolded the way it did no matter what the characters were thinking on the inside, Araragi's speeches about his and his sisters' feeling are just kinda tacked on.

Nise definitely had the best animation quality of the series as a whole.

>pretentious crabturds whining about nise again

Top tier snail dialogue. Seriously, it's just fantastic.

Nise does just as much character exploration as Bake does, but who they are as people, not what their major malfunction is. Nise does this through showing you who they are instead of dumping exposition like Bake. The dramatic moments and interactions are more organic than Bake's (metaphorical) monster of the week formula. It was a massive step forward for the series, even if there wasn't as many threats or as much tension, which has never been the focus of the series anyways.

That's not "character exploration", that's just showing you the everyday lives of the characters. More just character showcasing. Also, saying that Nise has less exposition than Bake is just untrue. The big climaxes of both parts are just Araragi looking into the camera and explaining his feelings and the themes to the viewer.

There was absolutely critical information buried in those everyday lives that you need to know if the series is going to go on. Pretty much all of those "everyday life" scene links directly to some major event either before or after the series.

That's way less exposition than five arcs of Oshino looking at the camera and explaining the problem and themes, and then the involved character looking at the camera and explaining their feelings and the themes.

Fuck off. Nise had top-tier comedy and ecchi writing/direction. The toothbrush scene is so popular because the way they built up sexual tension in it was masterful.

Nise was the season where I was about to drop the show, then SS convinced to keep going

Nise > Bake