The Nature of Today's MCs, and What it May Mean for the Japanese as a Whole

MCs in today's anime focus more on being relatable to the viewers, as opposed to the heros of old who were hot blooded and served to inspire the audience in some way.
Of course, relatable characters aren't always bad (refer to Shinji) and they can be written well, but considering that Japan's birth rates are plummeting faster than my will to live, do you think more hot-blooded inspiring heros are needed in this day and age? Or am I just fear mongering?

Hotblooded MCs have nothing to do with birthrates, all it does is make for obnoxious and disobedient people.

>Cherrypicking main characters from shows in a 20+ years range and main characters in a 5 year range
Apart from that you do realize that anime is a niche in japan and have little to no impact on their birth rates, right?
Of course you do, no one is this stupid.
Also how is ayanokouji, eren or akame designed to be relatable?

It's not cherrypicking, idiot.
It's a well known fact that the vast majority of modern MCs are skinny fags, and these images illustrate that well. In contrast, MCs from the 80s and 90s tended to have a lot more variation instead of conforming to a single archetype, especially one as bad as a skinny faggot.

(you) made this thread yesterday, and it's still not true.
Besides, isn't Eren more hot blooded than half the characters on the right? Unless he chilled the fuck out after I stopped watching.

>It's not cherrypicking, idiot.
It is you faggot, he literally took the main characters from all the classics from the 70s to the late 90s, and compared them to main characters from random anime from the 10s. How is that not cherrypicking?
Also why are you talking about body-types? That shit is infinitely less relevant than the personality in a story. Do you think joe, guts or onizuka are great main characters because they are buff as fuck? Even OP is talking about personality traits yet you still pulled body types out of your ass.

>How is that not cherrypicking?
I know it's difficult for your tiny brain to comprehend, but do at least try.

In the last 10 years, the vast majority of male MCs conform to a particular design with a particular set of characteristics: skinny, pleasant looking, yet not masculine. In contrast, there was no such conformity throughout the 80s and 90s; again, there was a great deal of variation, and probably the most popular archetype was the man's man alpha male.

Taking all that into account, images like the one in the OP illustrate the norm of each era pretty well, and as a result, isn't cherrypicking. Superficial idiots like yourself call it cherrypicking because you're not prepared to actually look through anime history.

I, too, like cherry-picking so I can make yet another braindead post about what's wrong with anime today.

You're full of shit

I could get more examples but it'd be wasting undue energy arguing with someone who is demonstrably full of shit

You're just missing the point, being the dead-set moron you are.

I, no anyone else has suggested there weren't skinny faggots in the 80s and 90s. Again, if you weren't a superficial moron, your microscopic brain might've registered that.

Good thing it wasn't cherrypicking, not that a retard like yourself knows any better.

You made this thread already. Everyone already called you out on your cherrypicking, faggot.

I'm not the OP, and it's not cherrypicking, idiot.

>n the last 10 years, the vast majority of male MCs conform to a particular design with a particular set of characteristics: skinny, pleasant looking, yet not masculine. In contrast, there was no such conformity throughout the 80s and 90s; again, there was a great deal of variation, and probably the most popular archetype was the man's man alpha male.
Nice user, now explain to me how taking 9 main characters from classics in a 20 years range period is supposed to be representative of a period with hundreds of anime?
Also

Did you ever even learn what sampling is at school before dropping out?

>man's man alpha male.
I haven't watched all of the classics in that image but
>MCs in today's anime focus more on being relatable to the viewers
>relatable to the viewers
>pleasant looking
Anime viewers in japan don't have a good image of themselves
>there was no such conformity throughout the 80s and 90s
There was just as much conformity with the "Do your best" MC a little pervy.

>Taking all that into account, images like the one in the OP illustrate the norm of each era pretty well
>Guts,joe and blackjack were the norms of their era

>Nice user, now explain to me how taking 9 main characters from classics in a 20 years range period is supposed to be representative of a period with hundreds of anime?
Hey idiot, relatively prominent MCs from their respective eras were chosen on both sides. Even then, if you took 10 random MCs from the 80s and 10 random MCs from 2010+, chances are it'll provide a similar reflection to the OP's image.

Again, you keep missing that very simple point because you're a colossal dumbfuck with a tiny brain. You should stop digging yourself deeper.

>Hey idiot, relatively prominent MCs from their respective eras were chosen on both sides.
>Relatively prominent
Are you seriously saying that about akame, the guy from erased, the mc of sakurasou, Kazuma and ayanokouji?
They are the relatively prominent MC of their era instead of Deku, Simon, Madoka and other actually prominent MC of the 10s?

>Even then, if you took 10 random MCs from the 80s and 10 random MCs from 2010+, chances are it'll provide a similar reflection to the OP's image.
Thank you for confirming that you do not know what sampling is and how it is done correctly.

>Again, you keep missing that very simple point because you're a colossal dumbfuck with a tiny brain
Funny because I reread the thread and I'm not the one who started talking about MCs bodytypes through the history of anime when the OP was explicitely speaking about personality traits and as such meant relatable personality traits when he was talking about relatable characters.

>mindless rhetorical questions
You're only further proving your idiocy here. By all means, keep digging yourself deeper like the dumbshit you are; it's already embarrassing enough you spent more than 20 minutes writing that hilariously stupid reply.

Kill yourself. Manime is for faggots and old people.

t. soyboy

On the right, I only know 4 of those characters. So, I'll debunk the idea of them being 'hotblooded mcs'
>Eren
Bad start, as he is a literal hot blooded mc in a garbage show
>Kirito
Harem protag, meant to be a self insert
>that guy from Konosuba
Konosuba is a comedy show man.
>that guy from Erased
Erased is a drama set in realism.
Now, you're comparing these guys to Spike, Guts, the guy from Trigun, etc., people from fantasy or sci-fi action shows. I don't even like most of the series I know about on the left, but this is unfair.
It'd be more accurate to say that what is popular in Japan shifted, and even then, Dragon Ball, Nardo, One Piss, they're all still popular. Berserk made a """"comeback""" in a shitty, third world tier anime, and we're still getting new shows about hot blooded action protags. Hell, there is a Fist of the North Star game coming out.

Back to you go

You're the one who needs to go back.

>old people
Sup Forums is forum for generation z now?

>n-no u

>cherrypicking

>mindless rhetorical questions
These rethorical questions shows that the characters on the right aren't prominent as you stated but guess that was too hard for you to understand.

>it's already embarrassing enough you spent more than 20 minutes writing that hilariously stupid reply.
I don't even know where to start there.
Why were you assuming that I have nothing else to do than reply to you?
Or is it maybe hard for you to imagine that some people have to work to pay their bills?

I don't think you understood the OP user. Op isn't calling the guys on the right hot blooded

Hot-blooded enough for ya, OP?

>These rethorical questions shows that the characters on the right aren't prominent as you stated
No they don't, idiot. Also, it's spelled rhetorical.

If you want to "show" they aren't as prominent, use evidence you blithering moron.

More like not representative of the majority of modern MCs, dumbass.

Majority =/= popularity. That's what you failed to realize. But keep reaching.

The real issue is the continued adaptation of light novels, with their bland, minimally described MCs, as opposed to manga, which has a more diverse assortment of main characters.

Since when was popularity ever relevant to the topic, idiot?

Is everyone straight up ignoring the influence Hokuto no Ken had? It's no wonder Guts, early Jojo and Onizuka all feature buff men. You could easily argue that with less and less influence came the average Japanese man figure.

>influencing japanese youth
>not popular
Pick one, fuckwit.

The real issue continues to be cherrypicking, like what you just did there.

So instead of claiming that OP is cherry picking, why not start posting some recent characters that don't fit into the soyboy archetype?

Oh that's right, you can't

>hot blooded
Wasn't Vash a hippie pussy tho?

>left side contains the kind of men everyone dreams of being
>right side: HARUKI-KUN, SETSUNA-KUN, YUTA-KUN!!!~

OP is a faggot anyway. Spike and Vash aren't even hot-blooded. Onizuka, Guts and the first Jojo protagonists wouldn't be particularly hot blooded either. The closest modern mc who kinda fits in-between would be Kenichi, who starts as an average guy to become muscular. But even he retains his previous body type to some degree.

Op is indeed a fag, but he's on to something when it comes to OC design. Modern ones tend to blend into each other. The only recent one I can think of that really stands out is MHA's Deku, OPM's Saitama, and Psycho Mobs... whatever his name was.

Cmon, be a lad and help me think up some more

Asta is surprisingly toned under his clothes, even more so than Deku if you're looking for that.

>soyboy
Stop using this dumb term. It's based on a stupid myth anyways.

So you can deny it and pretend your point isn't dumb? No thanks, not worth the effort.

I cry evry tiem.

Are we talking appearance or personality?

Shinji is a fucking caricature. How is he relatable.

Yeah, old anime had more variety about main characters, both body type and personality wise. Nowadays most protagonist are the token nice guy with a pretty boy body build. Even in fighting shonen those so called fighting maniac MC barely show any muscle and somehow punches harder than people who does look like they train

>So you can deny it and pretend your point isn't dumb? No thanks, not worth the effort.
Next time learn how to spell properly before making a complete idiot of yourself.

Onizuka and Kazuma's pretty much the same character to be honest.

Yeah. I really miss manly MCs such as Sarutobi Nikumaru, Hibari-kun, Patalliro, Kitarou, Enma-kun, Ataru, Ramna.

I really want to see a hot blooded/happy go lucky/naruto in a romantic comedy.
The MCs in this genre are always '' i'm so fucking cool amirite I am very silent and cool amirite''

wow that is a really toxic thread

>I thought part of the prettying of these characters also had to do with bringing girl interest up in the series.
My theory for why characters look like Kirito is because it makes porn more appealing to draw when they both look like girls.

Appearance.

>If you want to "show" they aren't as prominent, use evidence you blithering moron.
It's literally there
>Are you seriously saying that about akame, the guy from erased, the mc of sakurasou, Kazuma and ayanokouji?
>They are the relatively prominent MC of their era instead of Deku, Simon, Madoka and other actually prominent MC of the 10s?

>no one is this stupid.

Deku is really not that unique appearance wise honestly. He falls in the "smol boy who is actually really strong" archetype, which has already been a thing in dragonball and HxH for example.

I like Saitama, while his power is way too big, at least he's very well toned under his baggy suit. Were he like our generic modern shoen hero, he would be frail looking and still be OP anyways

What about Gurren Lagann then?

A hotblooded jewel in the middle of a sea of nice cute boy harem masters anime.

Hmmmmm... It's almost as if cherrypicking will give you different results.

Kagami wasn't the MC though

>Eren spends 90% of the time being a screaming lunatic
>Nagi no Asukara shota was aggressive and racist
Don’t really fit the narrative you’re trying to pull here.

Why people keep this meme that anime is somehow a contributing factor to Japan's low birthrate? Inhuman working hours, both men and women putting their carrers as focus of their lifes and the fact a kid is basically one more thing to spend absurd amounts of money for a lot of time are much more to blame than silly cartoons

And no, hot blooded MCs will not inspire a whole generation to start fucking like rabbits. Stop with the paranoia

Fuck you, Kintaro is lowkey badass

>moefag calling other people faggots

>ataru
>not manly
That man had more balls than any romcom MC in last decade