Why is it that in every seinen it's so hard to pick someone to root for because everybody deserves to be shot in the...

Why is it that in every seinen it's so hard to pick someone to root for because everybody deserves to be shot in the head?
Am I simply not old enough mentally to watch seinens, or is it the exact message seinens are trying to convey - in real life there are no good guys or bad guys, everyone is a piece of shit and your only choice is to step into the pile that stinks less?

Because you're watching edgy shit like Elfen Lied?
Besides the fact that "seinen" covers a lot of cute shows about schoolgirls, most of the "shounen but for older boys" ones you're presumably talking about still have sympathetic protagonists, even if they're more morally complex than Naruto or whatever.

> Because you're watching edgy shit like Elfen Lied?
Well, let's see.
> Tokyo Ghoul
Ghouls need to be exterminated for the good of humanity, but the government forces are just as fucked up. (Except for Amon, who was a good boy and did nothing wrong.)
> Kuzu no Honkai
Fucking purge everyone, sodomite cesspool, where is my damn flamethrower?! (Except for Noriko, who was a good girl and did nothing wrong.)
> Kiseijuu
Okay, in this case it's quite easy to take the protagonist's side, but it's not like the parasites didn't have a point. And as they become more capable of emotion, like Tamiya Ryouko, the same dilemma as in Tokyo Ghoul arises. Besides, parasites don't kill for fun unlike ghouls.

>Hard to pick someone to root for
>In Elfen fucking Lied
>The same series with Bandou
You just got brain problems, OP. Everybody roots for Bandou.

These three are the ones you should be rooting for.

>Tokyo Ghoul
I'd call that edgy shit like Elfen Lied. Besides which from what little I saw the MC was good little boy you could love because he did nothing wrong.
>Kuzu no Honkai
I assumed that was Josei. Either way the point is it's about awful people. It's literally in the title.
>Parasyte
How is that not what you're looking for?

> Bando
Nah, fuck this guy. I admit he's cool, but not very likable.
> 7
She's a walking bomb. The beach scene shows clearly it takes almost nothing to switch on her killing machine mode.
> Uhh ?
Who is that?

>in real life there are no good guys or bad guys, everyone is a piece of shit and your only choice is to step into the pile that stinks less?
In general, that's the message to get out of all this.
The target demographic for these shows are kids who are starting to realize the world is not black and white, and that even good intentions have unexpected consequences. They want shows with ill-defined morals because it's new to them as a concept to not KNOW in advance who to root for, but to have to decide.

Read the manga. Nozomi is best girl.

Reminder that Okamoto has now moved to writing literal isekai porn. And still got published in seinen magazine.

>> Bando
>Nah, fuck this guy. I admit he's cool, but not very likable.
>> Uhh ?
>Who is that?
Get off of Sup Forums

"NHK ni Youkoso" is the only manga I've ever read and it sucks.
> Get off of Sup Forums
Fight me.

Patrician post. Maybe throw on Mayu because she's so good to Bandou.
>Iiiif iiiit taaakes.. forever
>I wiiill wait for youuu

>HAHA I'M A GIGANTIC FAGGOT
>LOOK AT ALL THESE DICKS I SUCK
>WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?

Those are all shonens

Is that pissgirl on the right?

Yes.

What the fuck? Is that really what the source of EL looks like?
On the other hand, they did make Nyuu piss on the floor...

I'm glad you brought it up yourself, OP, because I do indeed think maybe you just aren't mentally old enough. Or to be more positive, you're just not world-weary enough and are too enamored of the idea that there are clearcut heroes, positive role models, people you can actually love unconditionally, or maybe that there are people alive, ever, who you won't want to punch in the neck sooner or later. In real life, there are still perfect waifus, user. But the definition of "perfect" isn't "100% flawless on an arbitrary idealized scale". It's perfect as the world allows someone to actually be. Like, when a situation is just shit and any response is some form of shit as well. Scum's Wish (English title to trigger the right people) is a key example. You're not going to "like" the characters exactly, they aren't meant to be likable or at least nobody ran it by a focus group and made sure there were "likable" characters. You like them despite their horrid, unlikable, hate-worthy flaws and actions. Or not, maybe. This is a huge part of what realism and depth mean.

Another thing is that it assumes some knowledge or life experience that you just don't have before you life to a certain age and have a certain perspective. Hanabi is not so much a scumbag, she is human and a fuckup and struggling with things that HAVE NO decent outcome or answer wherein nobody suffers large. You will, unless you're truly blessed, not end up in these situations and if you do, you won't have the perspective necessary to really process it until years later.

Not to be arrogant here because it's just a fact of life not to brag about but if you read Kuzu no Honkai or Aku no Hana and you're in your mid-twenties or under, you just can't really get it. How much of it you get will vary and being as they are good stories there is a lot to appreciate regardless. But the whole overall point and also a lot of the fine details simply will not have the full impact they will if you read them later.

Yeah, there were probably moments I didn't fully understand.
I'm still glad the author didn't force the Hanabi-Mugi ship. He's an NTR loving piece of shit no matter how you look at it.
Hanabi's only real sin was making her lesbian friend suffer, and she fully redeemed herself for it. Man, I want to pat her on the head so bad.

Funny you should say that.

Seriously what the hell?
What kind of harem slice of life bullshit is this? Where's all the drama? What's with the monster musume vibe?

Elfen Lied was always an edgy parody of harem series (Nyuu is very obviously based on Chii from Chobits), but the manga gets even darker than the anime after the point the anime ends at.

The manga is a juxtaposition of harem comedy and pure edge that abruptly switches between the two for shock value, while the anime tries to come off as deeper than it really is.

Seinen is just a MAGAZINE demographic. It's not a fucking genre.

There is nothing in common between K-On! and Elfen Lied.

Jesus christ, I haven't seen someone this edgy since high school. Stop being a faggot

yes everyone in real life sucks. SoLs are unrealistic.

What you are talking about also applies in shounen to an extent, particularly in settings with sci-fi elements.

Laius (Dungeon Meshi)
Lina Inverse
Saki
Uka (Inari, Kon Kon, Koi Iroha)
could anyone shoot these in the head?

>Why is it that in every seinen it's so hard to pick someone to root for because everybody deserves to be shot in the head?
Why is it that in this seinen there are so many loveable characters i have a hard time cheering for one over the other and always feel bad when one dies?
Stop watching shitty seinen