An isekai with a sci fi setting instead of medieval fantasy setting could work?

An isekai with a sci fi setting instead of medieval fantasy setting could work?

Yes it could, but I'd rather see a well-written isekai first, regardless of its setting.

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science stuff is too realistic for the hikkis

Only if MD Geist is MC.

The more sci the fi, the less it fits the isekai mold.

Isekai's basic premise is that the transportee brings some knowledge which gives them an advantage. A world more scientifically advanced than our own would by definition have a knowledge advantage, making the knowledge angle moot.

It would work in the narrow case of "Taken to an advanced world where factions try to gain control of this valuable sample for varying purposes". But there's not much story to wring out of that.

>Isekai's basic premise is that the transportee brings some knowledge which gives them an advantage
Not always.

>MC is transported to a future which takes place after some big dumb war that resulted in lots of data about the pre-war world being totally lost

Here, I fixed this problem.

What about sci-fi isekai where the sci-fi component is brought to a fantasy world? Something like a ship lost in ftl ends up in orbit over a different world in a parallel universe.

To take advantage of isekai's fundamental requirement of being transported to a new world means highlighting a unique quality the protagonist(s) have by nature of coming from their world to that world. The isekai which are built around the transportee getting a special power don't require the new world to work; any series can begin with a power-up without the need for a new world.

Would you call Dr. Stone sci fi? Even if you would, the OP image suggests technological progress, rather than regression.

Sure, but since the new world is the setting, it's a fantasy setting.

In that example I made I didn't meant the future would be some mad max apocalyptic shit. Just think about all the knowledge that was lost with the fall of the Roman Empire, but today we live in a world much more advanced than that

In that case, you'd need to have the knowledge which was lost be relevant to the more advanced society. While a living member of a society lost to history would be of immense significance to historians, describing that knowledge isn't a compelling premise to us who already know our world. And there's not much other value in a walking anachronism.

a sci fi isekai with a manly adult MC would be the greatest cliche subversion I could ever see in my entire life

A reverse-isekai. Medieval MC gets transported to modern day.

user, I just thought about a small concept about how a sci fi isekai could work, do you want me to write the damn thing?

Does Hataraku Maou sama count?
Even bicycles are high tech for them.

Anime versions of John Carter, Futurama and Idiocracy would be fun.

Lots of standard sci-fi does the fish out of water protagonist as a means of explaining the world and info dumping in a way that's realistic, since someone that had lived their entire life in the futuristic society wouldn't need shit explained to them constantly.

>since someone that had lived their entire life in the futuristic society wouldn't need shit explained to them constantly.

This reminds me how pic related is probably the worst execution of a sci fi premise I ever saw in me entire life, the author explained close to nothing about how anything in the world he created works

You mean like Now and Then, Here and There.

or Dual; Parallel Trouble Adventure.

Or Orguss, though that's more of a time portal thing than dimension hopping.

Depending on your definition of "SciFi", there's also El Hazard and Escaflowne... but would they count as Science Fantasy? Or something else entirely?

But yeah, it totally been done before.

he said well written

I actually had a writing an idea for this that I'm never really going to go through with because I couldn't come up with a non-shitty plot

the idea was that a bunch of people get on the subway one night but end up in an alternate fantasy city called Flipside due to unscheduled service changes

There were a few versions of this story all of which had them as some kind of "chosen heroes" but at least one of them had them as superheroes, and even in the versions where they're more normal urban fantasy heroes there's a girl in the cast who had a homemade superhero costume in her bag when she got on the train

Logical fallacy.

Every isekai works. The genre pretty much never fails and people will buy your story if it has cute enough girls.

These two, plus there's usually not slaves in sci-fi settings, although I suppose there could be.

What about a Tensei where the MC is reincarnated as the daughter of the guy that cucked him and his would be love interest

It requires creativity not just "guild, RPG mechanics, LotR worldbuilding and culture, D&D" formula.

Funny how the "element" to make an isekai is what makes most of them horrid.

>Anime versions of John Carter, Futurama and Idiocracy would be fun.

Nah it would be terrible since all three have far worse writing than the worst isekai available in Narou.

What fallacy?

Technological Progress, Cultural regression.

MC has to bring cooking, embroidery, and vidya back in a one-man renaissance. Plot twist is that japanese food like soy sauce and ramen still exist, and the MC is horrified that everyone is tired of it and very interested in this "pizza".

>coming back into society that have moved into entirely alien values.
The forever war

Far too much work and scifi is just not popular enough.

Can you bring stuffed toys and greeting cards to the Imperium of Man?

Season 2 when?

As long as it isn't another shitty "trapped in a game" cliche.

Of course, Imperial Guards need toys to bring home to their kids after years of slaying necrons/Daemon/orks/titans/space commie.

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Right, and there's something weird about going into a fake reality that's more advanced than the one that created it.

The answer is clearly to have the 'science' in the new setting be total horseshit that works anyway just because of sloppy programming. All the greatest minds of the universe are actually idiots but their perpetual motion machines etc. work because it's a game. Then your MC still has something to exploit.

I don't understand how asking a sci-fi isekai would work in comparison to the typical fantasy setting is a loaded question. There's no implication in the question nor in the context it's being asked in that the typical fantasy isekai setting is of low quality.

There might be something there with a poorly written science fiction setting.

Consider a world like Star Wars where widespread psychic-like power is used almost exclusively to trip people and shoot lightning.

>What about sci-fi isekai where the sci-fi component is brought to a fantasy world?

Well, you could argue that already happened in Escaflown except isekai MC became the villain.

Muv-Luv Alternative was a pretty popular isekai around these parts around 2011-2013, and it's hella sci-fi. It even gets around the problem by a combination of divergent technological paths and the MC not being the one who has all the key knowledge.

Does it count if protagonist doesn't come from our world?

That's basically what Utawarerumono is, isn't it?

Running with the assumption that the protagonist needs to bring something unknown to the setting: How about the MC gets transported to a utopian or at least stable world built on a paradigm he vehemently disagrees with. Then, acting as the villain, local MC ruins everything. He employs up modes of discourse that are no longer common (mob mentality, ironic memes, cult tactics) to rope people into supporting an ideology they don't really believe in on the pretense of a joke.

This was just licensed recently, it's a comedy sci fi isekai where the MC is reborn into an alternative future sci fi Japan and gets mistaken for a mad scientist through MISUNDERSTANDINGS

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Stop inserting American in Middle East politics in my japanese entertainment thank you very much.

Best isekai and one of the best MC's of all time.

MC woke up in a ghost ship and later became sex toys and porns merchant in space.

Now, I remember why I don't like science fantasy that much.
The artists take too little creative freedom in dressing up the characters and too rigid in their definition of fashion when drawing up them.

Even modern fantasy characters look far better in comparison, let alone fantasy characters where fashion is incredibly fun and erotic.

Technically speaking, someone transferred to a scifi setting would be actually at a massive disadvantage. It'd be like putting a caveman into the modern world, or a guy from the 1910s into the modern world.

Because SF requires some sort of extrapolation of how fashion may develop.

correct answer is to generally go completely bonkers

The problem is that the fiction become too rigid and dull for most readers to enjoy.

I do get that some people enjoy SF but as stated many times, it's an actual small niche and many popular SF works are rather just fantasy characters, tropes and plots wearing SF robes.

I'd say that's more "reverse isekai" rather than "sci-fi isekai". If Ente Isla had stories about lands where horseless carriages made of metal are commonplace and a form of lightning is used to make lights and machines work, you might be able to make a case for it being sci-fi isekai from Maou's point of view. But they don't, so it isn't.

Now and Then, Here and There... strictly it is advanced technology, but in storytelling terms, there's no real difference between it and magic in other settings.

Dual isn't a great example; it's "only" an alternate Earth (that only diverged a few years prior), rather than a completely different world.

El Hazard is basically the same as Now and Then, Here and There; it's sufficiently advanced technology in an otherwise generally fantasy context, therefore it might as well just be magic.

Escaflowne, though. Still not really sci-fi, or even science fantasy... the bits that aren't steampunk are just traditional fantasy with magic. Maybe there's a hint of actual science in there, but not enough to really define the show.

>Get hit by truck-kun
>Protags "normal" life was just a Matrix simulation to determine the potential of his soul for combat against the alien menace
>Protag was scoring kinda low but had solid potential.
>"Unfortunately due to a shortage of manpower on the front lines we had to run truckkun.exe on you early"

>Here's your new nanomachine enhanced regenerating immortal combat body
>Oh yeah we were out of male bodies so you're a cute girl now
>Now meet your squad and pick your weapons, good luck try not to die on your first mission

Here's an urban fantasy cyberpunk isekai kemonomimi isekai anime, with the heroine and her band of girl pop rock starlets fights against the oppression from the MAN trying to control the entire music industry by eliminating the competition through giant skeleton demons with subwoofer claws.

I want an anime where the MC is a zetaversal being that must choose people from other worlds to save a diferent reality, the plot will be devolped aroud the mc giving the hero´s asspulls and powers to fight the bad guys

Pretty much. Once when someone asked me about the differences between sci-fi and fantasy, the most honest answer I could come up with is whether there's swords and magic or rayguns and spaceships. And the cultures/societies presented in both are more shaped by the target audience's current culture/society than any actual imagination on the author's part, for that matter.

Of course there are exceptions; there's some actually really imaginative stuff out there, but tends to be niche even by sci-fi and fantasy standards.

Would watch.

Wish the manga scanlations would hurry up.

>I do get that some people enjoy SF but as stated many times, it's an actual small niche and many popular SF works are rather just fantasy characters, tropes and plots wearing SF robes.

In anime, certainly. Because hard SF is just dull to most people and only medium it still survives is in literature. I'm not talking LNs here where literally anyone can get published so and appeal is really what sells it. I think something like Blindsight is one of the more recent interesting takes that even manages to fit something like vampires into a hard SF story.

I would prefer it if mc was truck-sama instead where he evolves from truck to truck with drills, then starts driving at wallz all to attempt to isekai someone, who apparently is so good at parkour. Spirit of truck-kun then starts having a massive yandere crush on the person that they want to isekai so badly that truck-kun inadvertently starts a massive isekai fest from all the kills truck-kun did.

>No anime/LN where the MC become the Deity of Isekai and have to face another opponent deity using RTS and manage his own world.

Ken to mahou no fantasy, written by none other than genius tanaka romeo