Was Majin Vegeta SSJ3-tier?

Was Majin Vegeta SSJ3-tier?

no

No

He was SS2 tier

A SS2 is SS2 tier, fucking dumbass.

Explain how gohan SS2 is stronger than goku SS2

Obviously not, he got shitstomped by fattybuu when SSJ3 goku manhandled fatty and then said he was just gunna let their kids defeat him Because plot.

Besides, making vegeta was clearly somewhat comparable to SSJ2 goku

Gohan SSJ2 isn’t stronger than Goku SSJ2. What made you say this dumbass shit faggot

>Vegeta needed Majin power just to keep up with Goku
>Vegeta needed Majin power just to reach SSJ2
He can't do anything on his own

No.

He's barely stronger than Cell Games Gohan.

Vegeta could already go SSJ2, but his SSJ2 was weaker than Goku's, the Majin boost closed the gap

>Vegeta could already go SSJ2
Never stated

He wasn't impressed with adult Gohan's strength at SSJ2, saying he was weaker than his Cell Game's version and that was a disappointment, SSJ2 Vegeta was probably as strong as Cell Games Gohan before the Majin power up

Or maybe he just remembered how strong gohan was before and was disappointed in his regression.

No he needed Majin to get rid of his emotions and the limitations from them

That doesn't have anything to do with Vegeta's power, he's just disgusted that another Saiyan has grown so weak because they've become soft. It was a blow to Vegeta's pride

>Pffff, you are only 8 times stronger than me instead of 10

I don't buy it.

Because Vegeta is super prideful of his race he finds it an embarrassment that a Saiyan grew so soft and regressed as much as he did.

It's highly implied Vegeta needed Majin to break thru to ssj2.

Goku had ssj3 due to being dead and otherworld training. As we see, it was far beyond anything Vegeta could do.

Manga Trunks Super Saiyan 2 > Goku Super Saiyan 3, but no OP, he was equal in strength to Goku Super Saiyan 2

Gohan had his human/Saiyan hybrid blood hidden power that helped him ascend.
Goku had otherworld training (still unknown on what he did to ascend)
It makes sense that Vegeta needed something else besides gravity training to push through (hence why people say he needed Majin to breakthrough)
I agree with your implication

>Goku had ssj3 due to being dead and otherworld training.

Isn't it heavily speculated that ssj3 can't be reached under normal circumstances? Gotenks had to be a fused being and in the room of spirit and time for the first transformation to happen.

Kind of unknown.
Goku's state when dead probably makes it easier to maintain the power SSJ3 requires.
Gotenks is a the fusion of two halfbreeds so the amount of hidden power get multiplied along with the base power.

It's a possibility, but the form never got used much.

The stamina/energy drain flaw of it kinda implies that it is the farthest you can take the base ssj transformation. After that you have to start looking into stuff like god ki and UI.

Nope. Goku was also intentionally sandbagging during the fight.

It would kinda be an interesting what if if Goku had gone ssj3 off the bat pre Vegeta getting taken over. Vegeta would not have taken it well if he had been only at ssj1 levels.