What anime from this decade aged like milk?
What anime from this decade aged like milk?
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The shelf life of the average is anime is like 3 months. You should ask which ones didn't age.
if pic related, I think it aged well because it had it's own design and art direction.
Milk get better with age, upgrading into diffrent forms.
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Yes, Madoka did age like the finest cheddar or Brie.
Realizing a show was shit a few years after it's done airing doesn't mean it wasn't shit all along
I'm not even a fan of Madoka nor am I especially fond of its proponents but it's admittedly pretty retarded to denounce a show based on out of context in-between frames that look perfectly fine in motion. Of all the things you could criticize the show for this definitely isn't one of them.
Only bad things about Madoka are endless attempts on milking it after the show ended.
The show was, is and will forever be amazing piece of visual storytelling.
But they had to ruin it with Rebellion and endless games, spin-offs and fucking patchinko. Fucking fuck!
Can you present a single piece of criticism other than "All sequels are bad because I say so!"?
Google "madoka rebellion rebel with a misguided cause"
Inb4 >Reddit
If you are not willing to listen to criticism, then don't fucking ask for it.
You posted the best example
I already don't want to read this anymore.
>Homura doesn’t start trying to uncover the truth until thirty minutes into the movie.
This flat out isn't true. Unsurprisingly, the Redditor who wrote this stupid shit is retarded. His point seems to be "Sequels are bad because the creators are influenced by the fans" which doesn't make them bad.
>His point seems to be "Sequels are bad because the creators are influenced by the fans" which doesn't make them bad.
His point is that this concrete sequel is bad because it is not extension of the story. It only exists to please fans. Rebellion is 99% fanservice. In all its meanings and forms.
I could say a story about what Homura does after the events of the TV series while still wanting to "save" Madoka is indeed an extension of the story, but I wont.
Instead I will say I like to be pleased. It's ok to enjoy things.
Do you enjoy being pandered to?
Yes. Why wouldn't I?
Madoka gave us Homura Tamura.
>Why wouldn't I?
It just feels wrong to enjoy being pandered to.
I don't really know why. Maybe because it feels the author just does minimum effort necessary for a easy success.
I want to see author's mind and ingenuity. I want to be surprised by something new.
If I just wanted to masturbate to my own ideas and wishes, I would just write a fanfiction.
And even if you don't mind being pandered to, the critical problem here is that original madoka series doesn't pander at all, while rebellion is full of pandering.
So both target different groups of people. Instead of trying to appeal to original group of people, Rebellion went with easy route and just alienated group of people who don't want to be pandered to.
I can see where you're coming from, but it's not as if the sequel was phoned by simply pandering to the fanbase. Sure there were some scenes which fit the bill, but the story still feels sincere and has conflicts that wouldn't arise in masturbatory fanfictions.
>but the story still feels sincere
I completely disagree. It is clear Rebellion's main purpose is economic and franchise-building. Not any attempts at continuing the story.
>has conflicts that wouldn't arise in masturbatory fanfictions
I fail to see any.
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So out of curiosity how do you feel about Oriko, Kazumi, and the other entries in the series that have absolutely nothing to do with the main story, yet were planned before the anime even aired?
>It just feels wrong to enjoy being pandered to.
What a fucking tool.
Evaluate the work on its own merits, not what you think the motivation behind making it was.
>yet were planned before the anime even aired
[Citation needed]
>Evaluate the work on its own merits, not what you think the motivation behind making it was.
I do agree that is stupid thing to do.
But it is hard for Rebellion. As those two things are hard to separate. Rebellion's main purpose is to pander to fans and it is clear from it's content. I'm extrapolating it's purpose to pander from content of the movie. Not other way around.
>[Citation needed]
According to every source on Earth and basic knowledge of how mixed media projects like Madoka work?
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>発表期間 2011年1月24日
I think that link is broken.
But I cannot tell as I don't know moon.
There was a star character Sup Forums apparently doesn't allow in the middle of the text. It's just a link to Madoka's manga wiki page where it clearly lays out the first few manga was a part of the original plan.
what's up with all the madoka threads today? is it because there's no school tomorrow, so you faggots can stay up late?
>Homura Tamura
Huh?
>spin off by Yuru Camp mangaka
Sauce please.
What was part of the plan?
That there will be spin-off manga if the anime succeeds?
Or that there will be specific manga with specific characters and specific plot irrespective of anime's success?
"plans" can and do change.
>that there will be specific manga with specific characters and specific plot irrespective of anime's success?
Yes.
>That there will be spin-off manga if the anime succeeds?
There is not a single product on this planet that would not receive some kind of follow up if as popular as Madoka was.
>Yes.
[Citation needed]
>There is not a single product on this planet that would not receive some kind of follow up if as popular as Madoka was.
Well yes. But you said that it was planned even before the anime aired. So it is unrelated to it's success.
I laughed
>Madoka was 7 years ago
I can't fucking believe it.
Ok I guess the manga that started publishing 3 days after Madoka's 2nd episode was a direct response to the series massive popularity
Madoka is unironically a masterpiece that will be remembered for generations to come.
>Madoka
who?
Yeah.
And there hasn't been anything as good since.
I don't know what we are talking about here. Can you clarify your point as a whole?
My point is
Are the manga nothing more than economic franchise building tools or actual works of merit? Does this depend on when the producers decided to make these manga?
>Are the manga nothing more than economic franchise building tools or actual works of merit? Does this depend on when the producers decided to make these manga?
There is no general answer. It depends on what that manga is about.
For adaptations, the goal is clearly economic, by expanding the target audience.
For spin-offs, it is even more difficult. Their primary purpose is to build up the franchise, or even create franchise all on their own. But that is rare occurence. Mostly, they ride on the success of the original and they are considered safer investment, than creating whole new franchise.
And it's even more shit now.
Bakemonogatari.
It's basically cute paranormal girls doing cute paranormal things. When you watch one of the arcs with a girl that has no lewd moments and no romantic element either, like Math or Ougi, it really comes home to you that you weren't there for the story and the story is pretentious and shallow anyway.
Math and Ougi are amazing though.
The first season is still great though.
Watching shows like Frame Arms Girls and Ange Vierge has taught me that even blatant cashgrab tie-ins can be good as long as the people working on them put heart into it. Who cares if there's "economic considerations".
There is difference between just existing to promote something. And being expected to make money all on it's own. Especially if there is lots of money invested into something.
Madoka series was more of an experiment with low budget and low expectations.
Rebellion on the other hand had lots of money poured into it and there was clearly pressure put on it's makers to make that money back.
Kill la Kill
People who don't like Rebellion are fags.
Rebellion is pure art. It dared to examine the ending of Madoka that everyone loved and was satisfied with and went, "but would Homura really be okay with that?" The entire movie is a deep and extensive character study that acknowledges fan expectation and shows why they're wrong. It's literally anti-pandering.
Kill la Kill was never good to begin with. Triggerfags are retarded.
I agree with you, but I wouldn't really say it's "anti-pandering." Practically any piece of fiction will have pandering to some degree and there was some of that in the TV show as well as Rebellion. There's nothing wrong with any of that though of course.
I think that a big part of the movie was about Homura aligning a lot of her innermost desires with fans. So her early witch barrier is all the idyllic magical girl stuff that became extremely popular in the fandom, and then at some point in the movie she goes
>wait a minute, I'm too happy, this can't be right
and begins the process of tearing it all down.
I think the most obvious and almost fourth wall-breaking scene that shows this is the Luminous scene. It was so popular that it became a huge meme, and that scene was jeering at the reaction, saying that no, Homura's love for Madoka isn't this beautiful pure thing, it's obsessive and stems from her own inadequacies and self-loathing.
It's like the movie is looking at how most people saw Homura and then tries to set the record straight, basically going back through the entire series to pull out all of the evidence to show the real character of Homura. I still think that's why it pisses so many people off and why they try to pretend it's not canon, because it's showing how wrong they always were about the character.
>It just feels wrong to enjoy being pandered to.
Oh I see, you swing the other way.
>using in-between frames as proof that one of the most visually interesting TV anime aged like milk
Opion discarded and saged.
>one of the most visually interesting TV anime
nice try
It honestly is. It's easily in the top 50 mark of most visually interesting TV anime. That might sound like a low bar, but there's been thousands of anime over the decades.
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