What are your thoughts on Killing Floor 2?

What are your thoughts on Killing Floor 2?

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I thought I'd never hear an odd mix of industrial metal and Christian metal in a game.

Great fun to play casually. Once you start playing the higher difficulties/take it seriously, the game falls apart.
It only improves upon number 1 in 2 ways, which are graphics and hitboxes. Everything else is either a downgrade or similar quality.

Just look through most helpful on steam review page and look at the number of people with hundreds of hours giving negative reviews. I checked a bit and couldn't find any positive reviews there.

At least it didn't completely kill Killing Floor 1. Seems like the servers aren't as empty as they were when they announced Killing Floor 2. That's a positive thing right? Was actually going to try the game this weekend, but after last nights thread, I changed my mind.

The game is a co-op experience, why the fuck are they balancing it towards a vs. mode that no one wanted?

It is shit and it is dead

Regret buying it honestly senpai.

It's fun and I'm enjoying it, but I'm also late to the party so I have no idea why so many people are hating on it other than the developers being lazy.

Fun game though I only ever play with friends. Would be a great game if Tripwire weren't pants on head retarded, opened their fucking ears and stopped pretending that anyone cares about versus.

1 year and no improvements have been made for real. Most promised things never came around and they're already working on VR Killing Floor or some shit.

Very bad.

a lot more fun now that sharpshooter is out and there's more maps. tripwire keeps making really retarded moves though, like putting in a cash shop before actual content, or balancing single player around the unwanted vs mode, but I'm still having fun

Resistances.

bad

Tripwire Interactive simply do not know what they are doing.
Killing Floor is a simple zombie shooting game. They are trying to turn it into some kinda retarded Diadlo like RPG what with all the resistances and perks for the classes.

You don't need any of that shit, it was dumb as fuck having perk levels in KF1. It added annoying grinding and nothing else. No one liked having to dumb hours into demo before it got even remotely decent and worth playing. No one likes doing that in KF2 either.

Just make classes that have unique powers and weapon sets. Give zeds more moves to attack and defend themselves. Make interesting maps of all sizes.
There, you're fucking done.
Tripwire are hacks, KF2 is probably the last game I will ever buy from them. They said they would do EA right. They said it would be out by 2016. It's half way through 2016 and all the perks have yet to be released and they are breaking the game more and more with each patch. They do not know what they are doing.
All they know how to do is lie and build hype.

KF1 is vastly better than KF2. The only thing KF2 has going for it is graphics and gore. The hitboxes in aren't even better. KF1 had this easy simplicity to it and it made fighting zeds fun. The head bobbing simulator that is KF2 is not fun to play. Good fucking luck getting multiple headshots on a crowd of gorefasts with a shotgun as they all bob and weave their heads into and out of the line of fire.

>1 year and no improvements have been made for real.
except the game has barely been out more than a year, and it has improved tremendously.

It already has 2 Perks more than KF1, and a new game mode.

I regret buying it.

Changed my opinion of Tripwire from being good though slow devs to being a sellout trash studio. Selling DLC and crates before the game is even finished is fucking disgusting. Never buying anything from them again.

>gorefasts take like 6 headshots from a medic pistol
>sirens take like half a M14's mag in headshots
>crawlers taking less damage from shotguns
>crawlers taking less damage from fucking fire of all things
>bloats
Worst part is that it doesn't even make the game harder, just way more tedious than it has to be.

Ruined by SJW agendas and a strick no fun policy. Also TF2 hats.

I
want
a
fucking
refund

Great Mobile Game

uh no, it just reached 8, which is only one more than kf1. the core problem is that updates are piss slow, and they cant seem to balance for shit., or even designate proper roles to classes, everything is all over the place

>just way more tedious than it has to be.
I don't get how they don't realize that slapping on more health to the zeds does not make it funnier.
Everything above Hard on KF1 was boring as fuck to play. HoE? More like Kite for 5 hours in a tediously boring parade of shit.
Zeds need less health and then there needs to be twice as many of them. Colts should come in packs of 20. They should be all killable with one well place shotgun blast.

I would much rather fight 500 zeds that die reletively easily than fight 250 zeds that need to be blasted in the face 5 times before they lose their head... only to continue walking forward for another 20 feet because decapitating something means nothing I guess.

Do you even own the game?

Buyer's remorse hard. Don't buy this game if you value your money.

well, to be fair a headless zed is basically harmless and dies in 5-7 seconds anyway.

Yes.
Hell, I've been playing KF games since the pre-release demo of the 1.0 mod.

One of two games I regret buying, the other being BS:I.

>uh no, it just reached 8, which is only one more than kf1
It still fucking counts. Dont try to move goalposts.
Kids like you don't even remember how fucking broken and barren KF1 was during its launch. No Demo, no Lv6, no Husk, many perks had only ONE weapon for years, hitboxes and netcode sucked ass ... I could go on.

Yeah, it got a lot better later on, and I've put over 600h to it at this moment. however, KF2 has been VERY stable and balanced since the beginning, which is a good step up from the original. ADHD fags just are buttmad that it was not 200% bigger and better than the original day 1.

Lol no you can see how lazy they have been by not updating the DBShotgun reload animation to include 1 fired shell and two

For a game that they themselves catalogued as "gun porn" that's a pretty nasty overlook. Also the perks have 4 weapons and 2 of them are useless.

And the maps are few. Also the physics aren't very good, even if they're extremely gory. The impact on the weapons do not reflect the PUNCH of the first for instance. Everything explodes in gibs randomly, the shotguns for instance, do not launch the bodies like heavy objects, but rip them like jello and then fall off.

The balance is off too. The Fleshpound was menacing in the first, right now is just a nuisance, whereas the Scrake lost its tank status and became the new FP.

>5-7 seconds
is a lot since all these maps are so fucking small.
it's not like KF1 where there were lots of large open spaces or areas to walk to.
go too far in KF2 and shit teleports in front of you. walk three steps and you're at the edge of that section of the map. you can sprint around one of the lager maps in under a minute. In KF1, it would take minutes to run around a map as a lvl6 zerker with nothing but a knife.

decapped zeds still walking at you worked well in KF1 since you could easily keep your distance. It was a part of the game to be able to kite. in KF2, you are punished for kiting well and all the maps are small and easily ran around. either you move too fast, or the maps are too small.
either way, you and the zeds get around too fast to be able to do anything. can't run away because teleporting. can't hold ground because they just keep waddling forward or there's shit coming out of the walls all around you. speaking of that last bit I typed, why does Tripwire think sitting in one spot all game is bad?
what the fuck else you suppose to do? sit right outside a zed spawn zone? why the fuck wouldn't you hold down in a spot that is easily defended?
the game isn't fun what with all the zed spanwers all over the place. when there were only 3 or 4 places zeds came from people in PUGs still had trouble keeping them contained. most games I play in KF2, no one is able to do anything since there's like 6+ zed spawn zones for every decently sized hold out spot.

in general, the maps in KF2 are fucking awful and ruin everything.

zed resistance ruined the game, literally half the classes don't do any fucking damage anymore

you must not have played with this sharpshooter update because the scrake goes down in like two hits of the railgun, and the first one stuns him long enough for you to reload

It's a fucking trainwreck.

Priorities all wrong, censorship, blatant shilling to bring their score up, slow updates, no communication, insulting the players...

why would you release a game that is in such a sad state instead of just waiting til it is 200% bigger and better, than releasing it?

oh yeah because they can make a lot of money jewing people over with crates and skins.
thanks Tripwire!

>Fighting stalkers now

I FUCKING HATE the reappearing ZEDs behind you. The first one was about kiting and welding doors. In this one they're teleporting behind you all the time.

You like these "subtle resistances"?

It's pretty good

Dev's are a bit incompetent though

I don't think it's nearly as ruined as people make it out to be

>shit teleports in front of you

I'm so fucking tired of running from something to heal, only for it to come around the corner in front of me anyways.

I was going to make some awful joke about how they technically have 5 because muh knives but fuck that, I have standards.

>Tfw main Commando

New resist system is shit. I dont mind they are trying to add more reasons to have varied teams but they absolutely overdid it.

irredeemable

teams are less varied now
basically if you aren't playing medic, sharp, commando, or slinger you are dead weight

>there resistances are very subtle
>very
>subtle
>Scrake, FPs, sirens, stalkers, crawlers 0.3 to fire
>medium and big zeds have a 0.25 mod to nuke
>every zed save for stalkers has 50% melee resist
>every zed save for clots have 20-30% resistance to handgun

Everyone is.
Literally no one likes or even defends the teleporting. It is an awful mechanic that should have been removed month 1.
Instead it's still here, a year later.

Wanna know why?
Because without it, zeds would get stuck everywhere because Tripwire still, in this day and age, can't fucking figure out how to do pathfiding for NPCs.

KF1 had this problem pretty bad. Zeds getting stuck in spawns and stuff holding up rounds. Their solution? Make them teleport to you when you get away from them.
That's not really a bad idea, if they teleport behind you somewhere so you can still kite.
Nope, the geniuses at Tripwire thought having them teleport in front of you was better.
Fuck kiting am I right? Seems to be what TWI thinks. But they also dislike players sitting in one spot and holding down.
So what is it TWI? Kit, hold down a spot, or what? What the fuck are players suppose to do is you punish them for doing either of the two options open to them? There is no third option of flying up in the air. You either sit still or run. Yet both are punished.
Why?
Because TWI do not know what they are doing. They just slap shit together and hope it makes money.
They also lie a lot so that helps.

I just played it a while ago and its a lot better since I last played it. More maps and it has the fucking sharpshooter at last.

>Bloats
>the zed whose whole gimmick is it's only weak to head shots
>now is only weak to fire
>they gimped firebug so much with zed resistances that nobody even bothers with firebug anymore

John Gibson you fucking idiot. He has to be the fucking prick holding everything up, team members have made tons of weapons on their own time as fucking mods, what is slowing them down when they are supposed to actually be working?

Im so bored with the perks like, holy shit, Commando is boring because you're using the same 2 weapons all the time, the Support has 2 shotguns that work the same until the AA12, and the other perks are underwhelming. The Firebug isn't as messy and crispy as the first one, it doesn't feel like you're shooting FLAMES but a 1 second sprite in front of you and that's it. Berserk is bad overall and not very rewarding.

Haven't tried sharpshooter since i gave up with the game many months ago. Might as well try it again but i can't point out why is the fun gone since it's almost the first one remade. Something just doesn't click the same.

Also Tripwire are scumbags and already working in another title without finishing this one. People warned me, they warned you about them, and still fell for it.

What I expected
>A group of british as fuck loonies shooting zombies while calling each other twat, wanker, bellend, and throwing dosh at each other, and insulting the zombies, while listening to dosh metal

And I was very disappointed with what I got. Hardly any banter between the characters. Voice commands are shit, can't even insult players. Characters not exclusively british. etc etc.

Gameplay is fun, but it just doesn't have that same feel to it.

All the maps are extremely samey and all small as shit ( Where the fuck are maps like mountainpass or farm? )

Gunplay still feels a bit floaty

Tripwire is trying to kill it dead.

>inb4 someone blames consoles

ACCEPT IT YOU FUCKS THEY ARE HACKS

>Spiders based enemies
>figebug class gain exp from killing them
>Lets splat ob them 70% fire resistence for no fucking reason.
>Oh and stalkers now have 75% shotgun resistence
>And every zed has a permanent 50% damage reduction to every Berseker's
Weapons, while re-work the perk by removing the passives and slap them into the perk choices, forcing him to pick a determined set to just survive.
>Lets make him even more useless by nerfing parry damage reduction from 90% to 50% and keep the unparryable attacks
How can anyone be so incompetent

>crawlers 0.3 to fire
Bloody brilliant idea there, Tripwire. Make a trash enemy that the firebug gains bonus experience from killing have a high resistance to their main source of damage.

they just added sharpshooter back in, let me guess, it's still the best class in the game?

>They add all this resistances bullshit because of zeds dying too quickly in fucking mode
>They instead just don't separate both modes
>mfw

sharps are literally the only class that can down big zeds now

>Tripwire still, in this day and age, can't fucking figure out how to do pathfiding for NPCs.
>zeds STILL jump on chest high obstacle for no reason instead of sidestepping them
Be it console, guardrails- they jump on any obstacle be they cysts, bloat, husks, fleshpounds, making any place that isn't flat a deathtrap because they spazz out around every piece of decor.

meant for

Not to mention they're so bad at pathfinding that instead of trying to find their way through the level they just warp zeds around.

The game died when they added microtransations and hats before sharp shooter.

Between the resistance bullshit seen in , lacking good means of dealing with trash enemies and your grenades being utter fucking dogshit it starts pretty painful.

Then you get the railgun and absolutely destroy scrakes and fleshpounds on 6 man Suicidal despite only being level 2.

So how's that new character? Can she bantz?

Also why is she wearing a dress and heels when they said they didn't want any impractical characters?

read the thread, TWI goes back on their word 24/7.

Also, why did they even do all this shit? Like, do people actually play VS?

That is another annoying shit mechanic. They also walk right through doors that are open so if you're walking down a hallway and there's an open door on the side, suddenly a gorefast or some shit with pop right out of the door and hit you. They utterly butchered doors in killing floor. They are not helpful at all, it is best to weld them all a little so zeds can knock them all down and get them the fuck out of the way

>railgun
M8, with the stun perk (@lvl 10) you stun scrakes in 2 M14 shots, funpounds in 4-6 depending on how quickly you shoot. If you have a mando/support/medic next to you big zeds can't even get close to you.

>Taking out the Insult Players command

It's shit m8
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

Guy in a banana hammock when

Collapsing in on itself

>taking out "you're all fur coat, no knickers, bitches" because bitches is sexist
>blocking modders from putting it back in

I am a HUGE fan of the first one, pic related.

But the 30 minute playthrough they showed off years ago looked not-fun to me. The zeds all shared too close of a resemblance to each other, as opposed to how easy they were to identify by silhouette in KF1.

Tried KF2 during a free weekend and wanted to like it, but quickly learned to hate it. So many things I loved from the original are absent or changed in KF2.

Glad I didn't pay for it. Sad it wasn't a worthy successor to one of my favorite vidya ever.

And KF1 servers are kind of dead these days.

>blocking modders from putting it back in

You fucking wot

>blocking modders from putting it back in
Explain

ITS CALLED BANTER, ITS SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYFULL AND OFFENSIVE

Tried to like it since I loved the first one, but it just feels cheap to me.

They hate fun. They went out of their way to block chat wheel mods, model mods, and their magic code blocked people from replacing Patty's song with abandon all for months because for some reason it didn't obey the same rules as all the other songs in the game.

The chat wheel by the way, is shit nobody likes compared to the near instant voice menu, but consoles can't use v57, so it had to go. But don't worry, PC is still the lead platform. (forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=102726)

I feel the need to interject and point out that he did not "move the goalposts". You said there were two new perks, and he corrected you to say that in fact there is only one.

A person can only "move goalposts" if they put them down or agreed to them in the first place. You were simply mistaken is all.

1) people mod things
2) Tripwire learns of it
3) Tripwire patches the game
4) mod is broken
5) modders leave.

Eh, I was a lilithfag in bl for the fast. I can live with this.

That stuff about blocking mods is bullshit though.

Tripwire have killed it. When it first launched it was great and promising but now it's still in early access six months after it was supposed to be finished and is expected to remain in it for another six. They've fucked the game's balance completely and implement new content at a ridiculously slow speed.

lol

would be so much better in third person, with mixed zeds, upgradeable/mopdified weapons akin to resident evil 4 and quest objectives.

fuck off yoshillro
you killed the game and have the audacity to shill it

>probably the last game I will ever buy from them
>probably

impractical is code for anything that upsets SJWs amd gemerates negative publicity

That i didn't know. I loved KF1 soundtrack, and to be honest, Demon Hunter are bad. Zynthethic aren't known to anyone but are better than the screamo thing that DH is.

Man i really didn't knew about it. That's so fucking low i don't even know what to think about TWI anymore.

No it fucking wouldn't
It would be good if it were more like the original.

>inb4 someone blames consoles
I think it's more fair to blame Tripwire's perception of the console market. It's another case of them trying to appeal to a wider audience while abandoning what the already establsihed community wants. Unlike RO2 though I don't think they are going to reverse course this time or at least not until it is far too late to save the game.

SJW game developed by SJW studio, sold to facebook for oculus rift exclusivity.

What the fuck

I loved making maps in KF1 and trying the mods out of the servers, but never thought about the cash shop interfering directly with the modding scene until now. That may be the reason they're blocking anything that looks like fun.

Also wtf, KF1 enemies had silly banter and voice acting adn this one has none. It had the Hillbilly Horror event and Christmas Event that showed it was all about a silly edgy horror flick like Grindhouse or 90's movie.

Yeah, they sure are pandering to consoles. And who can blame them? All that feedback from the console players so far in early access vastly outnumbers the amount of pc player feedback.

>listening to metal vocals

>industrial metal and Christian meta

Sounds like the shit the president of the studio makes. I guess its the only way people are going to put up with his shit music I guess it isn't hard to swap some audio files though.

So, how long till the players drop back to 1500~ ?

It's shit. The soundtrack is shit. The characters do not have banter anymore between them. The ZEDs do not talk. The weapons aren't there. The perks aren't there. The maps are few. The modding potential is halved. Pathogen and Abandon All aren't in the game. The Fleshpound sucks. No new zeds. Microtransactions added before a real update. Still Early Access despite being a year.

But the worst of all is that they already ABANDONED IT FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT.

It's real shitty. But TWI lost all credentials and points they had for KF1. And that's a long fall.

I quite like demon hunter

>we ask ourselves is this an interesting character?
>rae's biography doesn't give her any interesting personality besides that she's not like her "boring coworkers"

Please, I'd rather play as one of her coworkers. Fuck dumb rockabilly slag, give me a depressed british office worker.

>they replaced the Scrake sounds which were good with slow fucking dinosaur noises while Fleshpounds still sound like shit

Demon Hunter in all their years of career hadn't a single catchy song as Pathogen, from the amateur zYnthethic band.

Literal whos.

Im still mad that they didnt added a fucking guy with a huge as fuck anit-Hazard\Radiation Suit with a Cleaning maniac disorder.