Mfw the ending of infinite

>mfw the ending of infinite

Holy shit what a mindfuck that was. Not bad at all.

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Smart game for smart gamers.

she was shocked too

I want to fuck Elizabeth!

Game was alright. Twist was pretty mindfucky and cool.

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THAT'S NOT HOW MULTIVERSE THEORY WORKS!

I wasn't particularly impressed. It was an interesting ending yes, particularly for a shooter, but it wasn't some incredible mindfuck blown away whatever.

WAIT A MINUTE THAT CARD

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woah broah... minedfuck ... fuckin bravo levine...... this game fucked my mind bro!! ... the creators must have been on drugs or somethin ROFL...

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>Not bad at all

Lol m8

To be fair, they make it pretty clear that they're using their own rules. Constants and variables, remember?
They are shitty rules and the story suffers from it, but in their setting they're not using popular SF theories.

If I get this right, the constant and variable bullshit, half of the infinite Bookers need to be killed because they turn into Comstocks.

Half of infinite is still infinite. She is literally going to spend the rest of her life killing Comstocks.

what game

>Constants and variables
If they just said "deus ex machina," at least then detractors would know the writer(s) were aware they were just pulling shit out of their ass.

>quantum mechanics sounds cool, lemme write a story about it

>I'm going to assign some retarded theory to explain this games completely fairy tale narrative even though it poorly fits and then complain that it poorly fits.

I don't mind that they make up their own shit - a baptized Booker will ALWAYS become an evil Comstock, Booker will ALWAYS pick the same ball, etc.
What's really annoying is that they spend most of the game explaining how their setting works and then they give Elizabeth powers so she can ignore all these rules and do whatever she likes.
Why not use the rules you set up, instead of just ignoring them at the end?

They didn't even need a fuckload of universes - two was enough.
They could have made the Bioshock 1 universe, where Booker lives, and the Infinite universe, where Comstock lives. They don't need more than that.
And that would make their "drown Booker" ending make much more sense, since they drown him before the universes split in two.

Yes it was fucking bad

It doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever

>when the shill AI is broken and still talks about B:I instead of MGSV

But did you guys play the DLC?

>Holy shit what a clusterfuck that was. All bad.
Fixed.

youtube.com/watch?v=-CH_PnQFmV4

Naw, it was fun

Back to Cod for you

What are you playing then if not the worst elements of a cod game slapped together with a pseudo intellectual coat of paint?

You mean the one that implies that the fall of rapture is thanks to Elizabeth, because she freed Fontaine?
Yes, and it was really really fucking stupid.

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yea, and it was even more convoluted and pointless, riding off the Bioshock 1 nostolgia fags.

The only good DLC was Episode 2, because you actually had to be careful playing as elizabeth

Considering Infinite plays like a bad COD for 90% of the game, I think you might have to reevaluate your taste in games, user

Other than the glaring plot holes I can see why some might find it a good game the same way some might find Interstellar a good movie.

whether it was fun or not does not factor into whether it makes any interal or external logical sense - which it does not.
Stupid things can be fun, but that does not make them any more intelligent.
>CoD
Let me respond in a manner that is just as stupid as, but much more sophisticated than yours:
If you found infinite intellectually pleasing you should really try out bad rats show.

>getting your mind blown by multiverse theories
sometimes i wish i was stupid too, life would be more fun

Not enjoying a poorly-constructed game featuring a plot with more dangling threads than a strip club at that time of the month doesn't relegate detractors to being exclusively fans of the meathead game du jour. Shit, at least Call of Duty players are fully aware they're just in for dumb spectacle when they fire up the campaign in those games, if they ever do.

It wasn't a mindfuck at all. It's really basic bitch sci-fi. It's a little confusing because it doesn't make any sense, like for example how killing an adult Booker in one timeline suddenly kills all other Bookers in all timelines. If I remember right, the director said it wasn't supposed to make any sense.

It's not like the plot is complicated, it's just full of holes and doesn't follow logically. The characters are retarded and their motivations don't make any sense, and the things they do also don't make any sense.

How does Elizabeth feel now that she's no longer Queen of SFM?

The entire gun thing is one of the stupidest things I think. They spend like a third of the game chasing down a supply of guns through the multiverses and once they find them they go "How exactly do we get these back?" only to get attacked and to forget that problem almost immediately.

>whether it was fun or not does not factor into whether it makes any interal or external logical sense -

They said it was bad, I said it was FUN moran.

Said literally nothing about the logic of it.

I think the logic is full of holes, but not so much so more than any other time-wimey plot ever made.

consistent? debatable.
sophisticated?
>sophisticated- high degree of complexity

Objectively, yes.

Now get that stick out of your ass

All trash

Babby's first multiverse story.

yea cuz the with the multiverse they ended up in they had already delivered the guns

How did that universe's jamokes do that?

Okay, but then how did they themselves manage that and why did Elizabeth and Booker think the deal would be honored when they made it with the chick like five dimensions ago and not the current one since every single jump had been vastly different circumstance wise? Not to mention they already knew the Booker of that world was dead once they entered so going up to Daisy and asking for her to honor a deal she probably didn't even make is even dumber.

Why did they even make the deal in the first place?
You have to kill a fucking regiment to get the zeppelin in the first place. How come a bunch of niggers without guns can take it away from you?

I pirated that pille of shit and I still felt cheated.
Not as mad like after ME3 but still made me mad.
Hope that hack will never make any game at all.

How come they didn't take over one of the hundreds of balloons in the main dimension as well? At worst Songbird might attack it, but he wouldn't willingly try to kill Elizabeth.

Never explained. I don't think they ever explicitly say Booker was responsible for it, either, just that they already had the weapons. They make it sound like Booker had spent much more time in Columbia than the player.

Maybe it was intended as a jump into the future, maybe it was intended that he showed up much earlier than you did, or maybe he was elevated to folk hero in a very, very short period of time.

It seriously could have been anything. Don't try to understand, just execute orders.

Why didn't they steal a different airship if the end goal was to get the fuck out of Columbia?

Why do some people seem aware of events that happened in other universes and why do some people remain unaffected?

and perhaps the most important question of all:
Why does anyone outside the initial universe pursue the Elizabeth that is with Booker with so much fervor? Their liz is still in the Tower

>Not bad at all.

Why didn't the fucking dumb-ass put on gloves or otherwise cover his hand when he sees that propaganda poster featuring a mark that looks exactly like his?

Outcome might have been the same since I don't recall any of the people are the event having gloves or anything and they were on the lookout for someone with something on their hand. They could have easily called him out there on the suspicion that he was hiding something.

>everything I don't like is CoD

Every single fucking time someone criticizes reddit-core games. Do you have an insecurity based around a single game franchise?

>it's THIS thread again

Y'all disappoint kek

Bioshock Infinite plays like CoD game so I have no idea what did he mean by that.

"THAT GUY HAS HIS HAND IN HIS POCKET! LET'S INSTANTLY DISAPPEAR AND/OR AIMLESSLY RUN AT HIM WITH BATONS!"

>BUT THE STORY
no shut the fuck up this is a video game and the game part of this video game is complete fucking trash.

That's not fair. The story is trash too.

>like for example how killing an adult Booker in one timeline suddenly kills all other Bookers in all timelines.
It doesn't.

Elizabeth isn't killing Booker, she's going back in time killing all of the Comstocks at the baptism, the Booker you play as gets "smothered" because if Columbia and Comstock don't exist, he never sold his daughter and he can't exist either.

He chooses to be unmade so his younger self can get another shot at being a daddy.

>sophisticated? Objectively, yes.
So you got confused and now you think it's "complex"

Columbia and Comstock still exist in an infinite number of timelines. There is no way to kill all of them without killing the younger Booker.

Bioshock 1 was much better, Infinite was just a bunch of incoherent forced bullshit put together

IT JUST WORKS

PRE-ORDER THE REMASTERS GODDAMMIT

Elizabeth stated their goal was to erase Comstock from ever existing. Somehow, the game interprets completing this action as killing Booker we play as. But what about the "million, million" Other Bookers who refused to be drowned? What then?

If you're thinking about replying with constants and variables, you should heavily consider suicide.

You go back to the baptism and force the minister's hand so Booker will always drown if he goes through with it.

Which is exactly what happens

Boom, done.

I unironically like 2-3 of the 2 dozen Cods.

If it has guns, it's like CoD right? Bioshock1 is basically Cod too

I bet you provide lots of mindblowingly indepth commentary on a variety of subjects

>If he goes through with it

And there are infinite timeliness where he did not go through with it and Comstock exists.

>defending so hard a shitty game like B:I

The only thing it did well was changing environments at a regular pace, which even fell flat at the end with the horrible length of time spent murdering boring impossible robots.

>And there are infinite timeliness where he did not go through with it
Sure

>and Comstock exists.
No, or at least, he never meets Rosalind Lutece so it doesn't matter.

The baptism doesn't cause Booker to become Comstock. Comstock is created an infinite number of other ways, which is what they said in the game. The baptism was the turning point just for him, but for every possible alternative outcome there is another parallel timeline where it did happen.

Are you imagining that an infinite number of identical Comstocks were created by identical baptisms? The entire point of hypertime is that it happens DIFFERENTLY in all timelines, not just an infinite number of parallel universes where the same thing happens.

Even if what you're suggesting happened, there are an infinite number of Bookers drowned that would not have become Comstock and an infinite number of Comstocks that would be created without the baptism.

>No, or at least, he never meets Rosalind Lutece so it doesn't matter.
There's an infinite number of timelines where he does.

my biggest problem with it was the lack of choice and how linear it was

Is your name Ken Levine, you piece of shit? You enjoy the greatest story ever told through the medium of video games according to the wishes of this modern day visionary and master of his craft.

>Why does anyone outside the initial universe pursue the Elizabeth that is with Booker with so much fervor? Their liz is still in the Tower

Holy fuck, it's almost sad how badly this game falls apart when you examine it closely.

I'm struggling to understand this post. Your point seems simple but your writing doesn't make any sense. Is YOUR name Ken Levine?

You're running on the assumption that there are infinite parallel universes with infinite possibilities that have existed independently since the beginning of time, Infinite's universal model is that of a tree that branches infinitely with time, this is clearly illustrated in the game.

Severing that branch is all that's required to resolve the Comstock problem, unfortunately for our Booker, he happened to get himself stuck on it when it was cut.

>infinite number of Bookers drowned that would not have become Comstock
Yes. That's the tragedy of it. Since you are point of view of (future comstock), you are a probably one of them.

>infinite number of Comstocks that would be created without the baptism.
Not necessarily, if it's a defining trait. It's definitely possible to have defining events which are necessary to make you who you are.

Multiverse theory is bullshit, anyway. Relativity of time doesn't mean there's a back-up drive that creates a copy of universe every fucking femtosecond of its existence, that you can visit on a whim, had you have a time machine.

There's only continuity of the matter

The problem is that the rules in Infinite are never explained well, there is too much bullshit.
>Infinite universes
>But wait, constants and variables
>Now theres a ghost for some reas- I mean infinite constants and variables
Take the Lutece as an expample, they are different genders depending in the universe so there should be an alternate female Booker and male Elizabeth?

No, his understanding is following those rules as well, he just seems to actually understand what he's talking about unlike you.

Those branches occur at decision points, when and outcome can have multiple variations. Some of these decisions are so miniscule you would never notice the difference between the two differing paths. However, the choice to kill Comstock is in fact a major change and there absolutely exist infinite timeless created from the decisions Booker has been making since he was born up until the choice to drown himself. It is not one single timeline with just a couple branches here and there that can get "cutoff." Besides, to even cutoff a timeline would imply that timeline ceases to exist, which absolutely NOT an outcome of any of the decisions we made.

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I understand how it owrks. That does not kill Comstock, it means an infinite number of Comstocks created by different events still exist.

>infinite timelines with inifinite branches
>kill the evil in one branch
>WOW THE WORLD IS SAVED WHEW

every time trying to be deep story that uses time mechanics as plot element

Infinite was so retarded I already purged most of it from my brain. I don't even remember it.

>male Lutece never did shit with his life
>there is still a statue of him at the beginning of the game before it transforms into the female Lutece
You can tell they rewrote a bunch of shit

>consolefags literally eat up bioshit and like it
Christ how pathetic

Comstock can't exist without the baptism, the chain of events resulting from it which lead him to Rosalind Lutece will never be triggered, he needs that minister and that congregation at that time to form the appropriate connections.

What you are describing is a third born again christian Booker who is powerless and inconsequential.

>Not necessarily, if it's a defining trait.
Necessarily. All possible outcomes are true. Anything that can happen does happen, thus Comstock exists. It's essentially a universal constant you can't change. Even if you went back and tried to kill Booker as an infant, there would be infinite infants that survived because his parents did something differently. Even if you killed his parents, the same thing is true: there are an infinite number of timelines where they lived.

There are an infinite number of outcomes where the infant is born under different conditions, but grows up to be roughly the same Booker and/or Comstock. There are an infinite number of outcomes where the parents are born under different conditions, but still go on to produce a child for whom an infinite number of iterations will become Comstock.

This problem cannot be solved by simply killing someone further back in time.

>Comstock can't exist without the baptism
Why?

>world is infinite branches
>go back to before baptism and kill book guy
>ITS OVER YOU DONE IT GIRL
>completely ignores the fact that this merely results in a branch where the baptism was eliminated and there's a still a infinite amount of branches where it wasn't

This is how fucking dumb it is.

Notice how he says
>What you are describing is a third born again christian Booker
>a third Booker
>3 Bookers
No, it's INFINITE Bookers. An infinite number of them become Comstock.

lel, if video games directors want to be like movies that bad they should do what movies directors do: hiring scientfic advisors

Bullshit. Movie directors do not do that

>mfw normie casuals think Bioshock Infinite has a complex, deep story

Play Xenogears, Xenosaga or Planescape Torment before spouting this bullshit. Fucking plebs

Well, some do. Some game directors do as well. Same with TV shows and books.

Some directors are just fucking stupid.

Interstellar, they hired an renowned astrophysicist

>Ken Levine literally - literally said that he watched Watchmen and thought it was good because he didn't understand it, then decided to use multiverse theory, which he doesn't understand, in a video game.

I mean, how fucking retarded do you have to be.

and, boy, did that help that movie avoid bullshit plot

Well at least the black hole looked nice... I doubt Thorne told Nolan that his tesseract inside the black hole idea was good

And yet they still walked on frozen clouds on one planet

Dude time travel lmao.

Am I being profound yet?