Can Weeaboos in the West prevent the struggling Japanese games industry from collapsing in on itself?
Serious question. Retail videogame sales have dropped through the floor in Japan and development costs keep rising. Japanese publishers and devs seem to be responding to this by trying to chase additional revenue from the West. In the old days, niche Japanese game devs generally didn't give much of a shit about the effort required for such a relatively small revenue source, but 50-100k copies sold to Westerners using PC ports is fucking huge for them now.
Why are you posting this now? Go back to 2011, where you belong.
Andrew Martin
Because Japanese games sales have fucking collapsed over the past like 3 years due to mobile? That's why we're seeing a shitload of PC ports
Robert Martinez
Okay? What do you want to talk about? Why did you make this thread?
Zachary Campbell
lrn2read: >Can Weeaboos in the West prevent the struggling Japanese games industry from collapsing in on itself?
Thomas Baker
Do we have some hard numbers on how well weeb games have been selling on Steam? I assume there's some sort of money to be made there, since they're being ported over at an increasing rate.
Ayden Moore
The game industry in japan has fucked itself internationally much in the same way anime and manga has. As more and more focus is on appealing to the otaku market instead of producing actually quality work, studios can ensure themselves local success in Japan.
Studios no longer have to make shows like Cowboy Bebop to have a hit on their hands, they can just churn out yet another dogshit moe booby show for beta shutin failures. It works, and the merch sales are a safe bet.
But this tactic fucks their international revenue. Die hard weebs on Sup Forums insist that their games should remain as weeby as possible, with localization changing absolutely nothing and keeping in all the references to tonkatsugashinomicon-sama and akibarararakino-gumi that most people outside of Japan don't fucking understand. But this is idiotic. You can't release niche as fuck things in the west that only 0.00000000000000000000000000000001% of people understand and expect them to make a big enough sale to get more of it.
Weebs on Sup Forums are unbearable because they want every single game Japan has, and with perfect translation jobs, and they want them in special editions, and so on. They want it all. And then it sells 5,000 copies. And then they want the sequel too. And the spin off. And they never think >hmm, maybe it's not really worth companies spending all this time and money on such small sellers
It's a vicious cycle. >Videogames begin costing more to produce >Jap devs need to make games that will sell for sure >Pander to okakus, make moe and idolshit >Lose foreign markets >Pander harder to otakus to make up for it >Weebs in the west believe there's literally nothing wrong with the japanese market because they love the pandering anyway >actual human beings aren't interested in these shitty games >weebs blame SJWs or normies or whatever other boogieman they can think of rather than accepting real people need more than a waifu to make them buy a videogame
Josiah Russell
Are you fucking stupid? Those kinds of things always existed in large quantities. You just didn't have the internet. PC98 catalogue is mostly hentai and 80s anime is mostly retarded shit for children or fanservice shows like Cutie Honey.
Carson Flores
>80s anime is mostly retarded shit for children Okay chum
Caleb Murphy
But he's right. He also never claimed that otaku pandering or fanservice never ever existed in the past. But of course autists on Sup Forums never argue the point that's being made, only against what idiotic thing they've inferred from a post.
Angel Moore
>he thinks anime at one point was a goldmine of perfect animation and quality scriptwriting LMAOing@ur life
Blake Powell
this couldn't be more perfect
Parker Green
Wow
Jacob Clark
Look at this list anichart.net/archive/winter-84 Do most of these shows look good to you? Sure, there's L-Gaim and Lupin, but no one gives a shit about Galvion, Ultraman Kids, or Doraemon He said there's more of a focus on otaku pandering now, you idiot. He doesn't realize that, again, there was just as much, if not more on average back then, especially since anime was even more niche at the time. The thing is, they just produce more anime now, due to the production costs being lowered by hiring Koreans.
And seriously, look at the list of games here. You people will be shitting on 90% of them.
>In the 23rd century billionaire Midoriyama Rei creates a secret organization called Circus to combat a hidden group called Shadow that is taking over the world. When she can't find qualified pilots for Circus' main mecha, the Galvion, she cuts a deal with two convicts, Mu and Maya, to lead the fight against Shadow. >Gugu is a big pink chicken, he loves coffe and came from another planet to be the friends of a lonely high school boy which is bullied by his sister. >Lupin III, the world's greatest thief, and his partners in crime: master marksman Daisuke Jigen, beautiful and scheming Fujiko Mine and stoic samurai Goemon Ishikawa XIII. >This series tells the story of 9 year-old Katri, a girl who lives on a farm in Finland with her grandparents. Katri faces many struggles and challenges. >On planet Kirakira live two tribes: Senobi and Robot. Senobi, quiet and peacefully set, settle down in the forest. Robot comes from the desert and starts war to take control of afforested grounds. >The Souya is a Japanese museum ship that previously served as an icebreaker and patrol boat, and was the first Japanese ship to take part in an Antarctic research expedition. The anime tells the adventures of the ship and its crew. >Takashi Katori is a big fan of online games, and so is his American friend Sarah. However, one of their RPGs goes too far, as their virtual world and the Lezarion robot that Takashi created for the game somehow mix with reality. Takashi is caught, but later the Earth Governement discovers that an evil scientist from the Moon >Hirono Kenta is your average geeky Junior High School student. His childhood obsession has always been Tokusatsu and Anime. In fact, he fancies himself as a "Hero of Justice" and often is seen running around in a makeshift costume of his own design called "Wing Man." None of this is fanservice moeshit and half of it wouldn't get made today because of a lack of waifus. Good work blowing yourself the fuck out.
Samuel Ortiz
More like >devs bring over even more games than they did back then >people only want to play shit like dark souls, but will play anything that gets heavily advertised >these devs assume that because bringing over all of their titles wasn't a good idea, they shouldn't bring any over.
You're just talking out of your ass. Did you know games like Atelier and Neptunia were on the PS1, but we just didn't get them here? The Japs still make about the same amount of "normal" games. It's just you all ignore them since its easier to cry about the "good old days"
Have you played Winning Eleven 2016 Gran Turismo 6 Winning Post 8 2015 A-Train 9 V4.0 Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII
there are all "normal" Japanese games made in the last 3 years that no one cried about censorship of or bitched about them being weeaboo because they didn't fit your narrative of Japan sucking and only making weirdo games.
It's almost like you guys actually know nothing about Japan and are just quoting wikipedia articles. Furthermore, those games really don't sell that great in Japan either. Would you believe me if I told you that CoD and Battlefield are PS4 best sellers in Japan? Sony even had a tournament for it between its CEOs and Square's.
Now, if there is one problem with anime, it's that they don't make OVAs anymore, but ONAs and manga have pretty much replaced those. There are lots of manga series that regular people read and wouldn't be "embarrassing" for the people you're alluding to, such as Kingdom and Zetman, but I guess knowing about stuff like that is too hard for people talking out of their asses on Sup Forums.
Juan Foster
Is this copypasta?
Dylan Phillips
>cowboy bebop Why are people replying to this trash
John Nguyen
Collapsing of current japanese videogame market will be a good thing future-wise. Japan needs to broke it's conservative approach and try something new once a while. That will be much easier task if it will be building straigth from the ashes, without any limitations and principles that holding back japanese devs potential. Just fucking look at their indie-scene: 99% of games produced by comiket circlejerking groups around shit like tohou and whatever. Maybe they want to do something unusual but afraid of this pressure and expectations. Collapse will prove how backwards things are and will give devs freedom
Jayden Lewis
That anime about the ship sounds really fucking good, and you're right about there not being anything like that anymore. Maybe if the crew were all girls. And the ship itself was also a girl.
The thing that pisses me off about waifufags is how badly they take criticism because of their constant persecution complex. That boat show sounds like it could be interesting. It shouldn't have waifus. But if you say that you're a faggot or a SJW or a numale or whatever the current buzzword is. There's a place for waifus, in dating sims or idol games. But waifufags think they should be in everything, and are the only thing to consider when trying to value the worth of any game, anime or manga. No matter how shit gameplay or story or whatever is, they'll still lap it up because of waifus.
Samuel Green
you dont have to change everything in localization u can keep it stock with direct translations
that doesnt change the actual content of the fucking game nor its gameplay, which is whats important
just because people arent ok with SJW friendly localizations doesnt mean when it is localized it somehow changes the games gameplay or content 180 unless its a romance game or has romance sub plots (fire emblem, agarest, etc...)
I do agree that japanese devs due focus too much on their own markey of lnovel and dating sim games
Colton Perry
There is a new Lupin. Galvion is actually not a good show and is just repetitive nonsense made to sell plastic models to kids. Lezarion exists today and it is called Yugioh 5D's. Anyway, if you need more examples of shows being shit back then as well, look at these charts. anichart.net/archive/summer-78 anichart.net/archive/winter-88 anichart.net/archive/spring-98
Also, have you even seen half of the stuff being described there? Any show sounds good on paper. Seriously, do you even watch anime? Most of them have descriptions like this.
Centuries ago, mankind was slaughtered to near extinction by monstrous humanoid creatures called titans, forcing humans to hide in fear behind enormous concentric walls. What makes these giants truly terrifying is that their taste for human flesh is not born out of hunger but what appears to be out of pleasure. To ensure their survival, the remnants of humanity began living within defensive barriers, resulting in one hundred years without a single titan encounter. However, that fragile calm is soon shattered when a colossal titan manages to breach the supposedly impregnable outer wall, reigniting the fight for survival against the man-eating abominations.
After witnessing a horrific personal loss at the hands of the invading creatures, Eren Yeager dedicates his life to their eradication by enlisting into the Survey Corps, an elite military unit that combats the merciless humanoids outside the protection of the walls. Based on Hajime Isayama's award-winning manga, Shingeki no Kyojin follows Eren, along with his adopted sister Mikasa Ackerman and his childhood friend Armin Arlert, as they join the brutal war against the titans and race to discover a way of defeating them before the last walls are breached.
Also, Wingman's author got to have his magnum Opus, Zetman made into an anime in 2013, so yet again, wrong on that point.
Noah Morales
I would be fine if Japanese devs tried to appeal to the west, so long as they don't fall into the pitfall of forcing diversity, feminism, homosexuality and other leftist shit in the games like westerners do nowadays.
Brandon Green
Do you actually have a point other than >not every single anime made in the 80s was good because I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise
Nathan Baker
wow it's all edgy shit with the same plot now we all have moe shit with the same plot such an improvement
Adam Wood
Japanese games are full of that "leftist shit" you fucking retard. Jesus christ GG really fucked this place for the worse.
The main difference is when Jap devs put a homosexual or a trans character in a game they don't have a wave of screaming fucking idiots like you making a huge deal about it. Nobody acts like a Sup Forums faggot so nobody goes and writes clickbait articles about the "outrage" and making a huge deal out of fucking nothing once again.
Matthew Long
>That's why we're seeing a shitload of PC ports That sell like hotcakes.
I can't wait for the Japanese completely abandon consoles.
Eli Taylor
>That anime about the ship sounds really fucking good, and you're right about there not being anything like that anymore. They're making a new LoGH, you know. There is also a Zipang anime. >The thing that pisses me off about waifufags is how badly they take criticism because of their constant persecution complex. I give no fucks about waifus. This is about you people spouting shit about things you know nothing about. I also hate most modern anime, but really, I hate most anime in general. If you actually lived in Japan back in the 80s, you would see most of the shows they made were shit, as most shows are in general, regardless of country and age.
The people posting shit like >hurdurr every anime is loli panties now Clearly don't realize that you have to wade through shit to get to the good shows. Have you ever seen/read One Punch Man or Eyeshield 21? No waifu stuff in those shows at all, but you're all too busy crying about, surprise surprise, most media is shit. Star Trek TNG is my favorite tv show of all time, and it was easily the best show the year it came out. Most tv was shit in 1987, so I'm not going to pretend that things were better back then just because my favorite show premiered that year. Roomies, Bustin' Loose, and Married... with Children pretty much all bored me to tears.
Jonathan Bailey
Do you actually have a point other than >WAAH WAIFUS >WAAH ANIME IS RUINED You faggots are what SJW are to gaming. You have the bare minimum knowedlge of the subject you got from shitposting meme sites and skimming wiki articles, and you most certainely don't buy or even watch the shit you bitch and moan about. But, god damn if you aren't gonna go on a crusade everytime the subject pops up, even though you're proven time and time again, that anime that fits your taste is still fucking everywhere. We all know you have 0 interest in watching things you like, and are more concerned about getting things you don't like removed.
Ryder Butler
>the adventures of a cute pink chicken >Lupin III >a 9 year old girl in Finland working on a farm >a show about a boat >a comedy about a nerd who pretends to be a superhero >edgy You didn't even try a little bit. 0/10.
Kevin Martin
That guy was claiming that those shows were good, even though he had never seen them, just because they came out in the 80s and had interesting sounding blurbs, but any show can do that shit. If he's claiming that all of these things are good and could not exist today, of course I'm going to call him out. HxH, Hajime no Ippo, Kaiji, Jojo, and Parasyte all have new anime now and it's not like they added waifus for their new audience.
Jace Wright
>SJW Oh I've been wasting my time replying to a retard
Kevin Anderson
Because they just make characters that they find interesting they don't make a fucking song and dance out of it.
Western devs only do it to fill some quota or wank over how righteous and moral they are for paving the way for diversity. Although I don't know how much of that is due to the media or the game companies themselves.
Nathan Lopez
There are lots of Japanese games that appeal to the west. Silent Hill was pretty much all about white people, and basically any game involving shooting will have at least one American, e.g. Ketsui, Vanquish, and Resident Evil.
Jace Diaz
>Star Trek TNG is my favorite tv show of all time Fuck off SJW
Logan Hernandez
>any game involving shooting will have at least one American And that American is blonde!
Caleb Edwards
The protagonist is white.
Levi Howard
Yeah, except for the little fucking fact that the Japanese don't go riot in the fucking streets every time a homo is made fun of.
Japanese doesn't tippy toe around trannies and fags in video games, they're not forced to be EMPOWERING ideal mary sue trash, they can bet whatever from, a complete joke, to a serious character, and when they're serious characters, they don't go "WOW I SURE AM GAY" every nanosecond like Western characters do.
Also, Japan doesn't have a mandatory black person quota in historical settings where black people have no business in being in.
Liam Scott
>"WOW I SURE AM GAY" every nanosecond like Western characters do. Name 3 western videogame characters that do this. Just 3. Meme answers do not apply.
Ian Rodriguez
>there will literally never be a thread on Sup Forums again about any topic that doesn't have a faggot like this show up to cry about his tired off 8gag waah waah gross problematic triggering liberal content in videogames
Dylan Collins
Don't you understand the new-right, user? It's not about facts, it's about feelings. The characters aren't like that, but he FEELS they are. And that's just as bad, if not worse.
Please respect the feelings of the new-right. Facts can be a little upsetting. Triggering, almost.
Matthew Jenkins
To be fair, there is always a scapegoat. SJW, the jews, reddit, gaia, whatever.
Nolan Powell
>None of this is fanservice moeshit and half of it wouldn't get made today because of a lack of waifus Galvion sounds somewhat like Super Robot Wars, which still gets made. Gu-gu Ganmo sounds like Doraemon, which still gets made Lupin the Third Part 4 literally came out in 2014 You know that if Katri, Girl of the Meadows came out today, you'd be calling it slice of life moeshit, but anyway, Silver Spoon is a recent farming anime. Gundam 00 is about some dudes trying to end a war between 3 factions, like Starzan Zipang is about dudes on a boat going on very dangerous adventures and questioning the morality of their actions for the benefit of Japan Rockman.exe is basically the same plot as Lezarion, especially in season 2 with the cross fusions Kamen Rider still exists, and is what Wingman was supposed to be anyway. Kamen Rider has a manga, even. Also, Garou has an anime and it's just a more adult version of the henshin story.
>inb4, well those are ripoffs, then. why can't anime be original?
Lucas Clark
Nah fuck you, I want Yakuza.
Elijah White
they don't give a shit about PC and only make ports for them because porting games is easy, especially from consoles like PS4. PS4 is actually one of the only things keeping japanese games alive
James Lee
I know you saw Cyber City Oedo 808 and liked it, but keep in mind that pretty much every cartoon from the 80s was made to sell toys to retarded kids. Voltron is just their Transformers. Superbook was just commissioned to teach kids about Christianity. Doraemon and Sazae san were just there to make little kids happy.
Dominic Rodriguez
How about just 2 then?
Ryder Hughes
except for the fact that those games are released on the PS4/Vita and the Vita version always outsells the PS4 version, hell a year or two ago they were still selling PS3 versions of games.
Nicholas Martin
Cowboy Bebop was a failure in Japan. Normal people don't watch anime. You're just spouting racist shit about how the Japs should be ashamed of their culture. Do we put any other country under scrutiny for how they fucking make cartoons, honestly?
Parker Garcia
>One Punch Man Pls kill yourself.
Austin Wilson
Nope. Otakus buy games and buy various merchandise. Weeaboos don't do both at once.
Jonathan Allen
How is OPM any worse than any other shounenshit? Explain this to me in real human words that do not involve it being popular and having a fanbase that misses the point of the parody. More to the point, all he said was that all anime is waifushit, which OPM is not. He didn't say he wanted it to be great as well, seeing as how he thinks a bunch of shows he's never seen like Galvion are good.
Seriously, am I the only person here that watched Galvion? It's really nothing special.
Thomas Morris
It's amazing how the horseshoe just keeps happening. The cycles are getting faster.
Daniel Hughes
>Can Weeaboos You people are abusing the fuck out of that word. Does weeaboo just mean anyone that buys Jap games now? My dad unironically likes Gatchaman and Space Battleship Yamato, so do you people really think that means he believes Japan is the best country in the world? He went there when he was in the Navy, but he came back for a reason.
Blake Reyes
I dind't say that it is worse than any other shounenshit.
But it is shounenshit so pls kill yourself.
Bentley Barnes
>How is OPM any worse than any other shounenshit? Because someone on Sup Forums said that reddit like it.
I wish I were lying.
Grayson Davis
Half of the cast of Borderlands: The Pre-sequel is obnoxiously gay, also Cortez from Mass Effect 3, that actually offended real gay people.
Angel Martin
So what's an anime you like? Serious question.
Hudson Thompson
The PS4/PC versions are generally made for the West, as there's not much market for home consoles in Japan.
Noah Green
meant for
Jaxson Ross
If gay people were offended by something you liked you wouldn't give a shit so don't pretend you give a shit when they're offended by something you don't like
Carson Cooper
No-one but Weeaboos are rested in PC ports of weird Vita shit like Neptunia/Ys/Danganronpa/Trails in the Sky. I mean, fuck, even shit like God Eater, Tales and Dragon's Dogma is niche as fuck.
Benjamin Martin
Lotgh Phantom of Inferno Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei Monogatari Series
Stuff like that.
Sebastian Rivera
Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei is published in weekly shounen magazine
Logan Martin
Now that PS4 is using PC architecture it's easy as shit to port games to PC, so I'm sure the 3rd party jap industry in geberal will better off with it.
Jace Hill
You know that weeaboo means someone that thinks that Japanese shit is good automatically and that Japan is the best place in the world despite having no knowledge of it, right? Even Slowbeef liked Danganronpa.
Noah Nguyen
Yes, I know it was originally a Sup Forums filter for "wapanese". Some of us aren't new
Ryan Price
Did you know that some people don't bother stressing over how "anime" a game looks and just plays whatever looks fun or gets advertised? How do you think that they keep selling DBZ and Pokemon games? You don't really believe that everyone that plays those have an interest in Japan and Japanese culture, right? The fact that they could get to the level of popularity that they did proves that even "weeaboo" games can get popular.
That being said, DBZ and Pokemon are pretty weird, so if they were just some thing that people saw for the first time, they'd say it's odd, but because of their already large presence people accept them.
Samuel Stewart
And yet you're still convinced that only weirdos play games from Japan, like the average normalfag bothers looking that shit up. I know many people that had no idea nintendo was a Japanese company and still buy their stuff, but don't have autism.
Blake Lewis
BTFO
John Barnes
Except the era of Japanese games being mainstream is pretty much over, the Japanese dev industry is dying, and we're getting a lot more niche goofy shit which used to either be painfully obscure or not released at all that are increasingly propped up by Western sales (to Weeaboos) as the Japanese market collapses.
Luis Johnson
Is this another thread where dumb normals get upset that japan makes mostly japanese games again?
Joshua Clark
Again, that idiot probably doesn't even understand how manga classifications work.
Pic related, from my favorite shounen.
Oliver White
The point is that Japan makes niche Japanese games for Japanese people but the only way they're profitable is thanks to Westerners obsessed with Japan
Hunter Johnson
Yep I see this thread is already full retard then bye
Andrew Martinez
"Full retard"? That's literally the issue that the OP was about, the Japanese game industry struggling and becoming reliant on Westerns to sustain itself. Shit like Culdcept and Idolm@ster is now the exception.
Anthony Price
>the only way they're profitable is thanks to Westerners obsessed with Japan Holy fucking shit, this is the dumbest thing I've read on Sup Forums in a long time
Thomas Myers
So why do American games sell so well in Japan? Shouldn't those be "too American" ?
Robert Thompson
They don't. What American games sold well in Japan? I can only think of Uncharted and CoD and they're not exactly huge. Luigi's Mansion 2 maybe?
But even if they did, American games are now the standard, like Japanese titles used to be in the 90s.
Angel Sanchez
>Luigi's Mansion 2 nope, looking up, that was made in Canada.
Daniel Adams
Overwatch sold 113,860 copies, which is phenomenal for an FPS in Japan.
Wyatt Lee
Sales decline isn't really the reason, there's now a market for all these Japanese games.
The 80's generation who grew up with the internet discovered all those Japanese games while growing up is now working and have lot of money to spend on these things. 15 years ago when we were teenagers we couldn't spend that much, there was no mature market for that.
This pretty much applies to everything coming out from Japan, and not only video games (music, books etc.). More and more Japanese websites now offers fully localized pages, international shipping, English support and so on. Fuck even things like Mandarake has been shipping internationally for couple years now and provide full English support.
Even if sales were good in Japan, these things would still come out to the West. What makes a company take the decision to expand their business or not is just the ROI. Investing into the west 15 years ago for products like video games would only be worth it for major titles.
Publishing costs have been going down and down thanks to digital content and that's also one of the reason we get so much content from Japan nowadays.
Zachary Howard
Mobile killed their industry just like it will kill ours. Kids today are playing F2P games on their hand-me-down cell phones and tablets. It happened in Japan, it will happen here.
Bad news: most games will be mobile F2P shit.
Good news: You can finally finish that backlog.
Leo Russell
What makes these threads so unbearable is that the FACTS show the Japanese gaming industry is in trouble, so people ask why that might be, or of there's anything they could change to fix the problem. These threads, in a way, perfectly show you what the real problem is.
Firstly, anyone who attempts to point out anything they feel could be a cause of the problem is shot down by weebs. They're WRONG because all their reasons are DUMB and UGH THAT'S HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN JAPAN - EDUCATE YOURSELF!!! etc.
Secondly, any suggestions for what they could do to change is met with hostility, because changing things is haram.
This is the problem with Japan in general. Issues are not dealt with, they just try play things safer and safer and going with "what we've always done" even as things get worse.
The videogame scene in Japan in the 90s was OBJECTIVELY better than it is now. They've fallen behind and the industry is on the verge of imploding. We all know this is true. But I challenge anyone on Sup Forums to name a cause, or suggest a solution, that doesn't result in a load of screaming autists replying to say how that's wrong and how Japan should stick to it's guns. And that's how Japan is.
Michael Campbell
Yeah, both KanColle and Granblue got a shitton of players and are super popular.
And most of these games are based around gatcha which, IMO, is even a worse cancer than straight P2W.
Zachary Watson
>it's another Sup Forumsirgins hating on moe thread
Lucas Clark
If the Japanese make games just to make white people happy, that would also be pointless. Why would they buy the games that are emulating their own culture instead of just buying games actually made in America?
Adrian Moore
>anyone who attempts to point out anything they feel could be a cause of the problem is shot down by weebs. They're WRONG because all their reasons are DUMB and UGH THAT'S HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN JAPAN - EDUCATE YOURSELF!!! But this is all true. When people spout stupid shit that is objectively wrong, why should I take them seriously? That's like saying "America is bad because it's full of violent retards now, we need to make it like the good old days" not realizing that New York has had gangs for like 100 years and their nation was founded by a general that assaulted a camp of enemy soldiers in their sleep on Christmas. If the foundation of your argument is shit, you're probably retard.
Lincoln Garcia
>If the Japanese make games just to make white people happy, that would also be pointless They've been doing that for a long, long time. They were doing better when they did that. Now the only try make themselves happy and guess what, they're not making enough money.
The sad truth is you can't compete in a multi-billion dollar industry unless underage white boys in America are spending their parents money on it.
Wyatt Diaz
So why not explain to us all why the japanese game industry is failing and how they should fix it. You're the only person who isn't a retard, right? Educate us.
Brody Watson
see
Jaxson Hughes
>Pro E >Gran Turismo 6 (2013, PS3) >a fucking jockey game >a fucking train sim >Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Woah dude the Japanese gaming industry is churning out hundreds of amazing non-weeb games every month!!! But seriously I cannot fucking believe you typed up all this shit when your examples list was this piss-weak.
Austin Morales
Lack of advertising.
I'm serious here. Think about it. Final Fantasy VII, if it came out today, would be shit on by Sup Forums as "retarded weeaboo garbage" or whatever (and I hate it myself, but that's beside the point), but it still sold like crack. You know why? The massive ad campaign. Idiots will buy anything if it has enough commercials. FFVII had magazine ads, tv spots, and even theater spots before movies. People will buy any shitty game that gets a huge marketing campaign. Look at pretty much anything Ubisoft makes. They're shit is broken and buggy half of the time and still gets good sales and high scores since they pay off reviewers anyway. If you try to attract people that hate Japanese games and don't want to be caught dead plaing them (without advertising them), what makes you think they'll stick buy them, even if you make them just Battlefield clones?
Most of the games that sell well in Japan get plenty of commercials, but basically none in the west.
Cameron Rogers
>FFVII was a shitty game that only sold because of adverts I'm not going to waste my time reading your entire post
Robert Fisher
>Pro E Yes, it's soccer, one of the most popular sports in the world. What's the problem here? >Gran Turismo 6 (2013, PS3) Oh, they're making GT Sport for the PS4 soon. >a fucking jockey game Is there something wrong with this? It's a sport and westerners like horse racing, right? >a fucking train sim Is there something wrong with this. Germany makes lots of simulators as well. Do you assume the game is bad just because it's a simulator? >Romance of the Three Kingdoms Yes, it's a game about Chinese history, not some anime story. Again, I don't see the problem here. Also, who said every month? When did the EVER do that? Sounds to me like you're too lazy to actually play games and are only here to get upset because you don't have all of the Japanese games you would have liked 20 years ago if they were shoved in your face.
Brandon Murphy
Otaku pandering is a symptom not a cause. When the economic bubble for animation bursted in the 90's all the great shows like cowboy bebop could no longer make enough money.
It's not unlike how cartoons in the west have collapsed into flash garbage or how Syfy channel was reality TV for like five years.
Chase Watson
I think Cave said that their steam releases have proved more profitable than their JP releases, and I know that the Nep games are aimed at weebs instead of actual japs.
Sebastian Parker
Except this is true. Just because you ignore the post doesn't make it go away. But like I said, my personal opinion on the game doesn't even matter. The point is that a fucking JRPG about a spiky haired anime swordsman with a giant blade is well remembered and beloved by westerners. And again, this is because of advertising.
In case you need me to justify why I don't like it, well the 3d shift was clunky and underwhelming. It's battle system was nothing special compared to its contemporaries and even predecessors, and the plot is contrived anime bullshit that, again, you would not tolerate today.
Zachary Turner
>Sounds to me like you're too lazy to actually play games You're on Sup Forums because you're ugly and nobody will date you. (This might not be true, but who the fuck cares since we're just making shit up about each other instead of discussing the topic now) >only here to get upset because you don't have all of the Japanese games you would have liked 20 years ago if they were shoved in your face This is so oddly specific. Smells like projection.
Samuel King
look at all of the kids that flock to the meme games e-celebs advertise. Shit like yandere simulator is popular just because of pewdiepie. Ads play a very important role in selling games.