Deus Ex MKD

This game really get some people's panties in a twist.
I'm sensing this game's gonna be great.

Wasn't the game made before people gave a shit about BLM?

>Giving even a modicum of attention to josh mcintosh

please fuck off back to eight chan you autistic faggot.

This is the new one coming out this month

>complaining about FEMA camps in a game about conspiracy theories

Post yfw McIntosh tried to do a kickstarter mirroring Anita's and he didn't get shit for it

Being a "good ally" sure paid off for him.

> as if psychopathic killer is a play style
It is though

Holy shit, really? What was he trying to kickstart?

>Jonathan McIntosh
The world's number one grievance manufacturer.

Not what he's saying. Isn't the game mostly done? Meaning the AUG LIVES MATTER thing was made before the BLM movement even had attention? Possibly before it even existed?

Literally the exact same thing Anita did, except for men in media.
Anita's second kickstarter is blowing the fuck out of him. Right now he's getting like $250 a month.

>choices with meaningful consequences
>must de-power the player

What sort of buttfucking cuntery is this?

That guy just spouted a lot of verbal diarrhea and spammed big words in an attempt to sound intellectual and only succeeded in saying fuck all of actual importance and weight.

All that shit can be summed up to "having choices in video games is bad, my wife's black son told me"

Morality is not a fucking skinner box and fantasy is not the same as reality.

Devs have to do nothing to reward or punish "moral" players. Everyone sane can decide for themselves if they want to be an asshole or not and the have every right to explore evil in the realm of fantasy.

the game was finished at the end of 2015.

This guy is under Anita's thumb. Of course he's a fucking idiot.

>women are paid less than men for the same work

So they spent the last eight months removing shit focus groups didn't like?

>McIntosh

Why has this man centered his life about something he hates? His life is more pathetic than Burch's.

>...the choice itself is immoral because it shouldn't be up to the player to make it

Memes aside, what did he mean by this?

In the first game you work for a UN organization and your job is to eliminate the terrorist threat. Both killing and non-lethal are justified given their nature. yes you find out later that they're not really the "bad guys," and your brother doesn't want you to kill them, but Anna and Gunther want you to commit violence to teach them a lesson. both choices are viable. It arguably makes less sense for DE:HR, since you're a private security guard, not a cop. In MD though you work for Interpol so again you have the legal use force of force, it's more up to you.

Honestly Dishonored did it better, where nonlethal was a bit harder and less rewarding, and lethal was fun but made the world shittier and the game made you feel bad.

what?
the game was delayed because it had serious performance issues and was incredibly buggy
what the hell was removed?

What do you think?

This just shows that women are retarded enough to back retarded ideas because they don't know any better while men won't back a retard just because he's yelling loudly.

"Choices that make me uncomfortable shouldn't be allowed".

I'm more confused by his last post where he seems to be saying meaningful choices in videogames are the ones you don't get to make.

I love how this game is triggering both SJWs and Sup Forumstards simultaneously.

I think: The dev shouldn't have a choice between "Kill all niggers / Declare them kings n shit" with minimal consequences. The devs should push a message and, if you can go against the intended choice, the game gets really really hard. Like "Kill all niggers" option would have you miss 1/3 of the game while you are repetitively ass-raped in prison via QTE (where if you fail too many you die of internal bleeding).

>McIntosh

It's just contrarian shitposters. Every game must be hated, especially if it's popular, so everything about it will get people trying to start a hatewagon. In other words, they're nega-sjw's purely because they're trying their best to shitpost.

He's right you know.

If "aug lives matter" is an allegory of "black lives matter" then they are inherently immoral.

There is nothing wrong with saying something is bad. Many shades of grey conflict are boring unless writers have the balls for showing what happens when one side "wins".

Anything that triggers this dickless cuck is an instant-purchase for me.

it isn't though
only people on Sup Forums were getting triggered
it was posted on Sup Forums and people were laughing and making fun of niggers and saying "based eidos".

He doesn't believe in ethics and thinks people should be allowed to choose what they believe/know to be the moral choice.

>should
shouldn't*

Yeah, just kiddies on Sup Forums trying to fit in/get (you)s.

>players shouldnt be given choice to be mean and politically incorrect cause thats mean and politically incorrect and most of all hurts my feelings

This guys panties are always in a twist.

and the desperation of beta males to get laid

Fucking Americans, if everything isn't turned to 11 they think there's something shady going on.

The game is about Jensen, the Aug life matters shit is just the background. Same with This is the police and feminist/black people/LGB protesters. The story isn't about these protesters but the chief being caught in between.

just ban videogames already!

Why does he think internment camps exist? Because people are corrupt and hate a certain group of people? Fuck no, the only reason bad things happen in the world is because somebody in a position of power felt they were doing the right thing. Deus Ex wants people to have that choice and then live with the consequences. Obviously if deus ex give people a morally ambiguous choice that affects the lives of are there exists a balance of good and bad outcomes, then the player will feel torn between the two.

I don't know who this guy is but pic related.

this reminds me of the ending of far cry 3. you have the option to go back to america with your friends, or stay on the islands to live out the rest of your days as a powerful warrior with a jungle princess. only if you choose the second option you get abruptly murdered for no reason. the developer came out afterwards and said he made it like that to punish players for making that choice.

>“Sex, violence, and the player is killed. Here are the things that satisfy our animal side as men, but they're subverted because it's a female doing it." Yohalem likened the ending to Princess Peach stabbing Mario. “Now that I'm thinking about it, that final scene should have been Citra castrating Jason. Seriously, that's the point! It is like, 'You win, motherf*****!' It's totally like, 'F*** you, you misogynist idiot!'”

All the female empowerement sperging aside I think they were right to make the stay ending the bad one.

Anyone who wanted to stay on the Island after going through hours of repetitive sidequests and base raids deserves to be hit with a big stick.

>people will take me more seriously because i am a man
>gets laughed at more than nini

There's a kernel of truth in what he's saying. Whatever the fuck he's saying about morality is irrelevant, I don't give a fuck, but there is something to be taken away from it.

Game devs should stop being afraid to tell players "no". In Morrowind, if you joined one of the houses, you couldn't join another. This is a good "meaningful" choice. I don't even know why this isn't game design 101, getting players to play your game more is a good thing, and if there's content they can't do in one playthrough, that gives them even more of a reason to play the game again.

WOOOW SO TOPICAL
I know this will be hard for you to understand since most of you belong to current American college kid generation, but the way writing is done in most video games, how Eidos Montreal and Kojipro approach it isn't something that flies in any other form of media except comics and capeshit. Comics are of course glorified picture books while capeshit movies are the most base of escapism fantasies for the retail era. Anyway, my point is this: you can not go online, take a bunch of trending topics and then rephrase it for your "ludonarrative experience" or whatever you choose to call it.
You just can't. You can't take fucking Black Lives Matter and just change it to Augs. You can't pick up an election where big baddie businessman goes against a woman with ulterior motives. You can't pick and choose real world stuff and rely on the consumer to pick up these simplistic, idiotic references. And you know why you can't do this?
Because the consumer is a fucking idiot, most of you here are fucking idiots vying for more braindead "hacking" minigames, you fucks actually want to match red color with red, green with green, like you're back in kindergarten and wait for the xp+15 piss filter lettering to pop up. You actually want to "explore" while gliding through nonsensical maze of vents and read hamfisted exposition where "characters" give you all their personal data in several painful to read paragraphs. You actually put faith in Eidos Montreal, a company that said that Jensen's apartment mirror is broken to reflect his inner anguish and took great pride in the complete lack of originality in Human Revolution. Notion of genre for them is synonymous with stale.
When will you - Americans I mean for this is the trait of your idiotic culture - stop using the endless callbacks and mind numbing references in your media? Do they give you a chubby, the fact that you "get them"?

Did he not play Deus Ex?

The game has tons of these moments where you're punished or helped depending on how you play.


The first one that comes to mind is in HR where you can actually have hostages die just by goofing around after the tutorial. Game doesn't warn your or anything.

>you can built concentration camp

and Sup Forums upset with this game

Honestly, Bob Page and Lucius DeBeers showing up is enough for me to at least take a look

Who's that faggot and why should people care about his opinions?

>Players should be allowed to make moral choices
>But only if the moral choices they make are "actually moral". As defined by me

He is the gift that keeps on giving.

K

I thought you were going somewhere with this rant, but then you simply diverted into "ME SMARTER THAN YOU".

So what

It makes me glad to know that these guys are so low test that they don't do any physical activity, and are likely to die in their 50's from heart disease

>I thought you were going somewhere with this rant, but then you simply diverted into "ME SMARTER THAN YOU".
You can pretty much sum up Neo New Sup Forums with this quote.

"Sup Forums" isn't upset with this game. People trying to make Sup Forums upset at the game are using any means they can to do it, including throwing a shitfit at the "aug lives matter" thing.

I was way more upset at the preorder DLC fiasco and Denuvo.

He's a fad. He and Sarkeesian may continue to be around indefinitely just like most activists find a way to cling to being angry for a living, but all the "white culture", "man culture", "rape culture" pseudo science has gotten a little tired and the mainstream has lost interest in it. At least from my perspective, but then again I just started tuning it out and maybe I don't notice it because Goggle's SEO figured out I wasn't clicking the links anymore.

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I think that was just the kind of thing he is protesting against.

Losses from gameplay perspective were fairly minimal, the real punishment was feeling like shit (if you were immersed).

He doesn't want to give such choices to the player because he doesn't trust the player to choose what is right in his opinion.

That's the typical liberal mentality

>Of course you should be free to do what you want
>But you should be shamed, punished, and ostracized if you don't make the correct decision

"He" isn't a fad. He's a nobody that only seemed "important" when he was in anita's shadow, but no one gives a single fuck about what he has to say, especially since he doesn't have the pussy pass Anita does.

I think he's right though. See pic related, he punished you if you decided that it was "fun" to kill innocent monsters.

Saying Aug Lives matter is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. I am 90.27% certain that if nignogs did not chimp out, that phrase would never have been in the game. It is blatant pandering.

I am just glad it backfired on them since no one understands what any prominent social justice combatants even want.

Oh gee, you've opened a lot of eyes and now nobody is going to define themselves as liberal anymore because nobody is going to want single payer healthcare if it means being associated with Ian McIntosh.

Thanks user. Thanks for your insight. It's really incredible and I'm really glad how many people like you have a voice in this day and age. This is the kind of discourse we need more of because it's so sharp and meaningful.

In this case it is bit different as he wants to take the choice away entirely.

>moralfagging
not everyone wants to play jesus incarnate every playthrough, its called fucking 'role play' for a reason.

directed at the guy in OP pic related obviously.

>It is blatant pandering.
Considering the "mechanical apartheid" fiasco, I don't think they expected this to be "pandering" at all.

>no one understands what any prominent social justice combatants even want.

Including the SJWs because the core idea behind these "progressives" is that morals are not absolute and so we need to constantly change what is acceptable. So their fight and standards changes from week to week.

>mfw a new Deus Ex game is only a few weeks away

If Video Games are only allowed to preach one political view they are Propaganda, not art.

If Video Games are not allowed to make you think critically about both the ugly and beautiful side of human nature then they are Electronic Toys, not art.

That being said removing the fun from Video Games does not make them art. If anything evoking our curiosity and interest in ways other media can not because they aren't interactive is the very thing that makes Video Games art.

>free speech does not mean freedom from criticism
Since when was violent murder considered criticism?

Wasn't he in New York when 9/11 happened and just reacted calmly with "yes this is what America deserves"? Is he some sort of sociopath? He defensively looks like a soulless school shooter.

Also: >Video games need to be mature and address social issues
>Johnathan "I love alqaeda" McIntosh: BUT DON"T ADDRESS THESE SOCIAL ISSUES IN THE WAY I DON'T LIKE!

When you're an oppressed minority group.

>McCuckintosh

This faggot is still Twitter brigading?

>Is he some sort of sociopath?

Possibly.

Fiasco?

No one gave a fuck expect few people on the internet virtue signaling.

If District 9 was released today the same people would rip it to shreds.

I mean all this bullshit about male culture or whatever. That's a fad, because it's all just a bunch of racist horseshit. Of course there's no monolithic "white" culture or "male" culture. There's not a "black" culture either, or a "female" culture. Those are massive groups and the people in them have wildly disparate upbringings and personal values. Trying to rail against them as a whole unit or to make a model about their behavior - especially their negative behavior - is bigotry. They tried to dress it up and act like the people who found it offensive were misogynists or whatever, but a lot of these popular icons are miserable, anti-social people who don't like their fellow humans. They aren't a positive influence and their non-stop negativity is draining. They can't stay in the public eye without being exhausting, because that type of deconstructive personality is innately exhausting.

I dunno bruh. Fun is just anything that actually engages a player and doesn't make fall asleep. Dem walking simulators are not fun, not cuz they make people feel not strong

I'm pretty hype desu

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who the fuck is this guy and what does he even do?

seems like all I see him do is bitch about video games.
i even saw him bitch about pokemon go once too because pokemon is a game that encourages animal fights.

If you put too much bait at the end of your hook its just going to break off and fall into the ocean.

Why do you guys use Sup Forums for this? If you hate the guy so much just make a twitter account and make fun of him there.

He's just one of the many young men who read a couple of journals and think themselves to be the cutting edge

He's just looking for someone to flex his "debate skillz" on. Just wait until someone slaps a child porn charge on him

>You shouldn't be allowed to make morally questionable choices in video games

If I am unable to be morally questionable, there is no weight to being morally just.

>You have two options, one is to be a cunt and the other to be a saint
>I choose to be a saint

>You have only one option, the dick route is merely implied
>Oh well I guess I HAVE to be good

This guy isn't living in the real world.

He lives off his trust fund and complains on Twitter as an "activist". Not even kidding.

Lot of games make you feel weak while you are struggling to beat the challenge.

If I wanted to feel like superman all the time I would just put in the cheat codes.

Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized withing the week, i already discussed the matter with the senator.

I'm prepared for all the comfy atmosphere

BUT IT'S OKAY IF AL QAEDA DOES IT! OSAMA DIN LADEN WAS A GOOD BOY! HE DINDU NUFFIN! HE GOES TO THE MOSQUE EREY DAY! HE NEEDS DOSE MONEYS! HE NEEDS THEM FOR DEM BOMBINGS!

Pic related

Who is this and why should I care about his opinions?

PERMABAN TWEET POSTER

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Hmm, what I took away from it was don't stick your dick in crazy... good advice to live by.

I went with the good ending in the game because it was was made the most sense to me. It wasn't because of soggy knees or anything like that.

IDK maybe I'm just not smart enough to see how "deep" the narrative really was (after they killed off Vaas I stopped caring about anything) but his way of explaining it sounds pretentious as fuck

>You can't pick up an election where big baddie businessman goes against a woman with ulterior motives

Are there actually any references to the election?

>tfw just wearing glasses makes you look like a nu-male

s'cool