Halo is considered babby's first shooter

>Halo is considered babby's first shooter
>Quake 3 came out two years prior
Hmmmm.

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Halo CE isn't babies first FPS, but Halo 3 is.

Halo was good up until Reach. Reach was breddy gud, but all my friends moved onto COD at that point. Halo 4 and 5 are TRASH.

5 has good multiplayer and the best forge.
Surely would be 2. I hate the term dudebro since it's autistic as saying normies or normalfag unironically but Halo 2 had the frat audience before Call of Duty 4 and Modern Warfare 2 did.

Many gaymers are too young to have CE as their first fps

>good multiplayer

>no split screen

what

I guess that Halo CE were your first FPS?

Some guy made a thread a while ago. Says he was a 343 dev. Apparently, the Xbone literally could not load assets with two players.
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>blend SF FPS for console babies
>blend SF FPS for furious tryharders

HMMMMM

>I guess that Halo CE were your first FPS?

Learn to speak English you filthy gaijin

Really engages your cognitive abilities...

And?

i never liked fps

Halo is better than Quake 3

are you dense?

Assume I am. What are you intending to imply?

OK.
Quake 3 released in 99 and Halo in 01. Quake 3 is often considered the pinnacle of deathmatch and Halo is considered a game for kids. Why does a minor gap of time not make Quake for kids?

I never unsterstood by people like halo so much I find it boring and shooting doent feel good.
I've played 1,2 and 3

Halo CE was 15 years old. If I played it when I was 10 years old, that makes me 25 now. I don't know how old the people who say Halo CE is baby's first FPS are. Are you guys into your mid 30s or something? It's pretty weird to make fun of such an old game by saying it's for kids.

Its Sup Forums being contrarian, Halo came out in the same Era that Sup Forums says Vidya was at its highest.

Those that played Halo at release are old fags now.

Halo 2 came out the same year UT 04 did.

It made Arena Combat slow and some people just preferred it that way.

why the FUCK is halo so goddamn fucking slow

its like moving underwater or something, complete with floaty ass low-gravity jumping

i thought this fuck was supposed to run 35 mp/h or something

It's not so much a matter of when, but a matter of who.
Quake found a popularity in niche groups and had a fairly high skill ceiling due to the tech involved.
Halo CE was the system seller for the original xbox. The gameplay wasn't particularly advanced and had a widespread appeal as anyone could just grab a controller and be somewhat competent.
"Baby's first FPS" simply comes from the facts that more people played Halo than Quake 3 and Halo is more accessible.

When you take into consideration that a lot of people found Halo 1 hard at release, it really shows you how small the gaming community was.

Doom was out before Quake. It is THE fps. Unless you wanna talk multiplayer.

Because they are different games. Thats like asking why overwatch is considered casual compared to Reflex.

My first FPS's were
Unreal Tournament
Quake
Tribes 2
Goldeneye
Halo: Combat Evolved

No regrets.

so, what you are saying, is it isnt about age but about the games the people like... wow.. really makes you think

is quake 2 the first babbies first fps?

I think you mean COD4 faggot.

RB

That image is old as fuck

-Console First Person Shooter
-Introduced many people to FPS for the first time

Those are the major two reasons why it's considered babies first FPS.

It's baffling that people can't grasp this and need it explained to them.

I thought that was Golden Eye. Sounds like you are trying to revision history my friend.

Halo was actually good, though.

Halo is old as fuck now. You might as well say Doom is babby's first FPS because it was.

Reach was a technical test run for a new engine.

You can argue Golden Eye was some people's first FPS, especially for console users. However, when comparing it to Halo it pales in comparison for exposure.

So again what is the point of calling Halo baby's first FPS if people have a choice of what they want to play? Why should a console gamer have to play an FPS on PC if they don't gaming on a PC? I don't see console gamers claiming Halo is better than PC FPS.

>baby's first fps
The people that played Quake 3 at launch were playing FPS already

*like

Wrong, 4 is a fucking amazing game

The story is shit, but the gameplay is fucking amazing, especially the multiplayer. It's like COD but less shit.

Seriously I'm not even memeing. There was a danger they would rehash the same old Halo formula, or that they would completely change it and make it shit. They struct the PERFECT balance. It feels like a Halo game, but the new gun sounds, the new graphics, the feel to the new guns, they're all perfectly weighted. And the power-ups and shit like that (that they already experimented with in 3) are a perfect addition.

I can't speak for 5 because I've never played it. But 4 is an amazing game. The only valid criticism is of the story, which is indeed shit. And just the campaign in general you could say is perhaps a bit lacklustre. But the multiplayer is fucking amazing.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Answer the damn question, if console gamers don't give a shit about your PC FPS games then why the hell should Halo be called baby's first FPS? You seem bitter that the game wasn't another Doom rip off.

Maybe it's just me but I remember Unreal Tournament 3 and CoD 4 being huge and getting people into PC shooters. World at War was pretty big too because of zombies.

Modern Warfare 2 would be a more accurate babbies first fps these days.

Halo CE was my first fps. Just because people call it babbies first fps doesn't mean its bad.

It's not but PC gamers seem to think so because they're bitter.

My friend I think you've let the memes get to you.

People are still playing Halo CE multiplayer on PC, I don't think many PC gamers really have a problem with it.

Goldeneye is in a league of its own. It didn't start the casualized console FPS trend that Halo did.

>Halo is considered babby's first shooter
Because it is?
>Quake 3 came out two years prior
And its multiplayer is dogshit compared to Quake 3 Arena's. Hell, it's dogshit compared to Quake 2 in every way and that was the worst game in the series at the time.

>You can argue Golden Eye was some people's first FPS, especially for console users. However, when comparing it to Halo it pales in comparison for exposure.

Jesus christ. Stop posting any time kid.

Goldeneye was a much bigger phenomenon than Halo: CE.

I don't even really understand what you are trying to state here, but it sounds like you are angry about an old meme?

Just chill out dude, the meme was never serious. Only autists would take something like this so seriously. No one cares if you play an FPS on pc or console. It's probably a lot easier with a mouse but that's the player's choice.

Anyway, for that period of time, it actually was "babies first FPS" because it was extremely popular and was on both console and pc. You could literally substitute OP's image with the newest mainstream fps and get the same results for today's generation.

Having to even explain this is a bit saddening, are people this stupid?

Bullshit. Babby's first FPS would be half-life. You are underaged if your first FPS isn't Wolfenstein or Doom.

Or Tomb raider at the very, very least with a Voodoo card.

Shooting in TR was barely an element, it was more like masochist's first puzzle platformer game.
It was easier with a voodoo because framedrops and low fps wouldn't kill you

only millenials like Halo

wasnt even a good game, was just shilled hard to sell the xbox

was already about 300 half life mods and far superior FPS available on PC at the time.

You know this board is going to shit when people actually respect halo.

Decent taste.
My first FPS was Quake 2 and then I played doom. First game that I bought was Red Alert 1.

>It's like COD but less shit.

The fact that any Halo game can be described as "like COD" automatically makes it shit

You know GoldenEye wasn't a success story overnight, right? It took a while for it to get off the ground with those amazing sales.

Compare that to Halo which was hyped even before release and sold well right off the bat. It even got sequels, books, merchandise, etc. What about GoldenEye?

My first fps was pic related

>he thinks halo is called an entry fps because of its age

There was no reason to play Halo. It was not even the best console FPS for its time.

>Goldeneye was a much bigger phenomenon than Halo: CE.
Oh yeah, and that's why every game tried copying it at the time right?

PC faggot detected

>Compare that to Halo which was hyped even before release and sold well right off the ba

Nah it didn't. Xbox sales were pretty slow until Gamecube's momentum disintegrated at the end of 2003.

>It even got sequels, books, merchandise, etc. What about GoldenEye?

GoldenEye had a movie based on it, senpai :^)

>that's why every game tried copying it at the time right?

GoldenEye was the first FPS with manual keybinded reloading, among other standard FPS features that people take for granted these days.

So yeah, pretty much everybody did copy it.

No, Halo actually innovatived on console FPS gameplay. Before Halo all FPS were either Doom, Half-Life, or System Shock 2 rip offs that just copied the same damn formulas instead of trying something different. When Halo released FPS devs didn't know what to really do and just took some aspects from Halo and called it their "Halo Killer". Devs added regen health with out understanding why Halo had it as Halo had a canon reason for it other FPS just had it because they became lazy. They also had two weapons limit but no unique weapons and Half-Life vehicle section because they didn't understand how to add Halo's third person camera. When COD4 came out devs now have an easy formula to copy again like Doom, Half-Life, and System Shock 2 all over again.

>among other standard FPS features
Elaborate.

pic not related? perfect dark and goldeneye were fucking terrible, i dont get why people are such big fans for a shittier deus ex when games like doom 64 and turok were on the same console

SeeAnd shut the fuck up, Diom, Half-Life, System Shock 2, and COD4 are the only FPS with copy cats. There was no FPS that played like Halo.

>Before Halo all FPS were either Doom, Half-Life, or System Shock 2 rip offs

GoldenEye was none of these things. Underage moron. It was arguably the first hugely popular FPS that wasn't a Doom clone.

And it came out 14 months before Half Life and 2 years before System Shock 2.

Halo literally did no innovation except managing to dumb down PC FPS into console form with stuff like regenerating health.

*Doom

>>It even got sequels, books, merchandise, etc. What about GoldenEye?

>GoldenEye had a movie based on it, senpai :^)

fuck off retard, name one game like tribes, name one game like thief, name one game like descent, name one game that copied half life even, you are talking out your ass and halo didnt do more different than any other fps of the time

>implying you're not a millenial
If you're actually not, what the fuck are you doing here at age 37?

Halo: Designed around limitations of a controller, plays like garbage with k&m
Quake: Infinite depth.

>Halo literally did no innovation except managing to dumb down PC FPS into console form with stuff like regenerating health.
Hah, caught your ass, you bitter PC cunt. I don't even mentioning GoldenEye it wasn't part of the argument, your faggot ass is trying to say all FPS at the time played exactly like Halo which is not true, you fucking cunt.

>Elaborate.

Well I already mentioned the manual key-bound reloading.

Goldeneye was the first FPS where if you shot somebody in the leg you did less damage than shooting them in the chest, and the enemy would animate limping around in response.

In fact, it was the first with AI that could take physical maneuvers to avoid your fire, like roll out of the way.

And if you exclude shit like Strife which was more of a first person RPG anyway (while Goldeneye is definitely not an RPG), it was the first FPS that had stealth, NPCs and objective-based gameplay.

Yeah look how popular they were, OH WAIT! Go suck some cock you bitter PC cunt.

very popular? are you fucking mad? what does that even have to do with the conversation?

Yeah, let's limit the player to two weapons at a time, introduce some clunky melee attacks, and slow the gameplay down to a 30 fps crawl where everyone jumps like they're on the moon. Truly steps in the right direction for the genre.

I played Quake and Quake 2 way before Quake 3.

In fact, there was a time when I was bitter about Quake 3 because people were dropping 2 for it.

You're the one who brought up those games when I was specifically talking about the ones that were more popular. Now answer my questions, are you mad because Halo was made for console over PC, and why the fuck do you even care about a console FPS when ITS ON A CONSOLE?!

Okay tell me which one of your PC shit exactly like it?

His point was that PC shooters are better and more innovative than console shooters.

Quake 3 doesnt have regenerating HP or aim assist.

Also people in quake 3 move much faster than the snail spartans.
>tf2 heavy without his weapon spinning is FASTER than a spartan

*play

I'll take "because of autoaim" for 100

no you said halo innovated the fps while every game before it was a doom clone. so i asked what games were similar to several games and you dodged the question. no im not angry and i never said i was hothead learn how to read

How is quake 3 the best FPS with no split screen tho???????

So then why do care about Halo? No console gamer is saying Halo is better than PC FPS.

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I think people are annoyed that retarded children like you praise a shitty fps. We're not jealous of halo, we're disappointed.

I said it innovatived on console FPS, I didn't say PC. Again why care about Halo when it's a console FPS?

why do you keep asking that? did you make the thread? nobody has even said halo was babbies first fps in literally years and weve commonly had good running threads about halo. kill yourself

>Its Sup Forums being contrarian, Halo came out in the same Era that Sup Forums says Vidya was at its highest.
That has nothing to do with it. Halo threads got nuked on sight for at least half a decade. It was never popular nor accepted here.

>finally get a job after years of living off government money due to my disease
>hired at Wal Mart
>first day
>co-worker starts talking to me about games
>he says Halo revolutionized the FPS genre
>he cant wait until Halo 6
>go up to the manager and quit on the spot
>apply for government assistance again because of my social anxiety and depression

Seriously I cant stand ignorant people like this. I would rather stay home than deal with retards like that.

>Before Halo all FPS were either Doom, Half-Life, or System Shock 2 rip offs that just copied the same damn formulas instead of trying something different.
no you didnt y do u care wot othr ppl think about halo?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!

Because Halo set forth a number of trends that stagnated the console FPS market overall. It killed the potential for other, more interesting console shooters to be commercially successful. If it didn't popularize its design features, we could have had more interesting console shooters like pic related rather than Halo clones.

HOL UP.

Why is your tripcode different? Where's the rest of that comic arc you promised?