You will be remembered as the MMORPG who died for casuals

You will be remembered as the MMORPG who died for casuals

#ForThePlayers

WoW was literally always the MMO that pandered to casuals. That's why it fucking caught on in the first place, because it was an MMO where death didn't cost you your gear and hours of leveling exp.

It lived by the casuals, it died by the casuals.

Forcing you to lose gear upon death in non-voluntary circumstances, i.e. outside of pvp zones, was always a stupid idea.

Shit like, say, Runescape is beloved for a lot of reasons but the 3 item rule was not one of them.

>For the alliance with Activision!

Why do you have to be a casual to prefer not having all your progress flushed down the toilet if you die? Imagine how shitty Mythic raiding and Mythic+ dungeons would be if you lost all your items on death.

>boohoohoo
>WoW was better back when there were less features and the graphics sucked and it took 4 hours to run anywhere

kys, nostalgiacuckold

it was better though
flying mounts ruined everything

Vanilla/TBC was better though.

fucking questhelper being integrated into WoW is what definately killed WoW
and the Dungeonfinder

you could jsut as well call it Farmville-the MMORPG game

paid transfers too. Any kind of server community butchered.

dungeon finder is fine, the problem is that it's cross realm

No, it will remembered as the MMORPG that brought in the casuals.

no dungeon finder is not fine

also destroying old world instead of just making old raids Heroic mode was shit

vanilla casual? LMAO

also, kids grew so they have to play a casual mmo, that why expansion are getting gayer and gayer

>the problem is that it's cross realm

Would you rather wait for hours just to run some garbage dungeon? There just aren't enough players in one realm to get a group together

>wow
>dying any time soon

if there are not enough players, then the servers need to be merged

Alright, be honest, you never played a real MMO, have you?

and yet the raids are significantly harder than anything they could shit out in Vanilla

>be a mage
>have to conjure food and water for everyone every time I did a dungeon and raid which would take a fucking long time
>gameplay consists of spamming one spell or occasionally an AoE that costs a ridiculous amount of mana
>have to drink between pulls if I use AoE spell
>raid boss mechanics nearly non existent and have to watch Judge Judy at the same time to stop myself from falling asleep
I miss Vanilla so much!

>4 fucking wow threads
Blizz gearing up for legion it seems

not saying that you're wrong, but considering the number of players the game has, I'd say 4 threads on a video game board isn't out of proportion

WoW has been dead since 2009 you delusional faggot.

WoW was my first mmo, i was a console guy sure, super nintendo/n64 and playstation1 games were 10-30 hours long, maybe a month in gameplay, then i fucking played WoW and went fucking 6 months playing only to get to the endgame START, it was a pretty cool , experience

You must have a different definition of Dead then, since servers are still up.

There's reasons for why that can't be done

Like what if you had maximum amount of characters on both of the servers they wanted to merge together? Couldn't be done without losing one realm's character progress

oh thats way better than

>be a mage
>have nothing to do except wait for people to arrive, so i better complain like a little girl the whole time
>gameplay consists of spamming one spell or occasionally an AoE that costs almost no Mana, but still I get one crit after the other
>there are no "pulls" because we just go right through with it, so easy lolXD
>raid boss consists of stupid mini-games that actually don't make my grey matter work a bit but after just nice too look at I guess

>dead
>latest expansion is about to drop

Keep telling yourself it's dead, son

It is, especially when you usually have 2 at best. This is some Overwatch level of spam brewing up.
Not that I care about the shilling, but it's kinda annoying after 6 illidans

>Like what if you had maximum amount of characters on both of the servers
What maximum amount? All that matters is the number of players actively playing at any given time, and that only matters on a continental basis.

Another thing that sucked was this whole "lets make the women look like sex dools"

I'm the absoloute opposite of some feminist nu-male, but that just isn't necessary and its annoying

>Overwatch level of spam


not even

Overwatch was so big, there were daily threads about Tracer farting on people

Legion hasn't reached fart fetish level yet

Yet

>dools
*dolls

I think it was very necessary, my dick agrees, don't bother him about it.

It's alive but any claim to relevance has long expired.

>What maximum amount?

You have a limit to the amount of characters you can create on any given realm. If you max out created characters on both realms, how are they going to stuff them onto one server?

They would either have to increase the number of allowed created characters per realm, or force players to get rid of some of them

You can have a maximum of 11 characters now per server now, afaik. He doesn't mean players in game. For example, if you have a server of 11 characters and it merges with a server where you have more, which does it keep?

It is very necessary you homo

>wanting to be sexually stimulated by virtual elfes who are played by fat guys with chipssauce all of their fat finger
ewww mate

and also, we have sexual things all over the place, it doesn't need to be in my WoW

Does Blizzard write the worst dialogue in vidya?

It should give an option to let you pick which ones stay, and give free realm transfers for the ones that are over the limit.

>any claim to relevance has long expired.

It's still THE only relevant MMORPG

all other MMORPG's are like the Bernie Sanders dreaming of taking down the mighty behemoth, when they know deep down it can never happen

>It's important to have Sylvanas wearing a gigantic target literally on her stomach.

The colors are what get me. Why not just use her Master Skin from HotS?

WATCH YOUR CLEVER MOUTH, BITCH!

Vanilla WoW was causal as shit compared to the competition at the time.

>less features
Legion has less features than any other expac

WoD atleast with Garrisons had something interesting going while Order Halls are basically a gimped down version of them with more the worktimes but less the buildings and content

WQ's are basically the same quests/rare mobs you have been doing while levling, only now you get to redo them again everyday as "content"

What kind of dumb faggots have nostalgia for early WoW?

It was shit. Raids were boring as fuck. finding groups to run dungeons meant you spend more time doing jack shit than actually playing the game (meeting stones were often infested by groups shitting on anyone trying to summon), and the actual rotations for most classes was fairly braindead with the exception of WotLK.

If you wanted an actual, difficult MMO you would've been playing anything other than classic WoW at the time. City of Heroes was more complex (Rest in piece, best MMO) in terms of actual gameplay.

That's just because we're still 3 weeks from release. It will reach that level of shilling in 2.

You don't need to be in WoW either.

>gigantic target
Literally what

>Garrisons
>something interesting
kill yourself

>People will just hit her armor, not her exposed stomach

LFR queer shitter detected

>causal

holy fuck shit, a person who actually defends WoD, please kill yourself and make it hurt

She's a ranged corpse anyway
Vol'Jin never wore shit either and Varian got stabbed just as effortlessly
Garrosh didn't wear shit either and look how long he was around
Armor ain't shit ya fag

Warlords of Draenor was good. Not as good as Mists of Pandaria, but way better than Cataclysm

Warlords is highly underrated, and gets bashed by people who admittedly only played it for a few hours and didn't even give it a fair chance

WoW was my first "good" MMO after trying a lot of F2P shit, back in 04.

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Nigger I played that shit for months and it was trash. Dungeons were trash, Highmaul was trash when it was finally fucking released, the "story" was trash, the handling of "rare" spawns was trash, and the forced instance garrisons were trash.

Not to mention it was the beginning of the end for class specs having literally any variety to them. It began the severe case of gutting that Legion has expanded on

RIP GARROSH. YOU DINDU NUFFIN

Its not hard to defend WoD when Legion is a shittier version of it with even less the content of WoD

but you will find out soon enough :^)

It was good for a single levelling run, and a few raid and dungeon encounters. Outside of that is was garbage.

it was dead on arrival and already catered to casuals when compared to its three major predecessors that basically comprised the entire MMO genre, Ultima Online, EverQuest, and Asheron's Call

EQ took over a year of playing 8 hours a day just to reach max level, then you had to get raid gear to start raiding which would take you another year of playing 8 hours a day

>the beginning of the end for class specs having literally any variety to them


You have 3 specs. Every time you get a talent point, you have 3 options to pick

You say there's no variety, but there is. You're just mad because they took away "muh favorite ablities"

you are just bullshitting, do you really count as content clicking shit in your Garrison? the only content there is in Warlods of Draenor are the three raids, Highmaul was shit and unoriginal and only HFC felt like a real raid

WoD eliminated professions, they put Ashran which was a fucking mess because they put PVE events that didn't interact in any way with the PVP part like in AV, heroic were useless and an entire zone was cut and later added as fucking content

there are a ton of fucking content and storylines cutted, it could have been a good expansion but they decided to let it go and focused on Legion

Legion still hasn't come out but from what've seen in the beta there is more content there than in WOD, the raids and dungeon designs obliterates the entirety of WoD

they made professions useful and fun again, you need to do shit in the world again with world quest, you can do mythic+ if you are the speedrun type of player, there are a ton of world bosses and two fucking raids ready at launch

there is content at launch, we'll see how they develop the expansion, but to say that WoD is good is a sin my son.

not to mention from a plot and lore perspective that the entire expansion of WoD was for Gul'dan to escape to our Azeroth, that's it, none of the rest matters, it was literally filler

desu some pruning was fucking stupid, I don't see the need of removing almost all totems from enh, or making Ret play like an Arm warrios from before

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>We gutted your class, pick three of the twenty abilities we took to have back :^)

what the fuck were you doing?

Y'ALL ENJOYIN' YOUR DEMON HUNTERS?

DO ANYTHING FUN OR EXCITING WITH 'EM YET?

>DO ANYTHING FUN OR EXCITING WITH 'EM YET?

no

>I haven't played the beta
go back to clicking shit m8

The competition was Everquest 2, late late DaoC, and the last few months of Shadowbane.

I'm enjoying the edge, can't decide on a color set I'm happy with though.

Dem swords, very sexy.

>There's reasons for why that can't be done

Yeah, laziness

baito kana

>Dead
>Literately millions of players still playing
>Legion hasn't even dropped yet

You're the delusional one here, fagette.

>WoW's been dead to me since 2009 you delusional faggot

I think that's what you meant

If only he could see the horde now

>and it took 4 hours to run anywhere
that was part of the fun, though. made the world more immersive.

He tried to warn us, now the Horde will become the new Scourge with that bitch in charge

You know why no mmo since has had such punishments for dying such as leveling down and losing gear?
Nobody likes it and is extreme to a pointless degree.

>Nobody likes it
I love it, and I have quit MMOs because they have become too casual and DON'T have those mechanics.

>extreme to a pointless degree
it adds longevity to the game as well as forcing players to learn how to play their class to the best of their ability, else you risk death and serious loss. I wouldn't expect a casual to understand.