The pause menu music is really good. That's one thing I can say about this game is that the music is phenomenal

The pause menu music is really good. That's one thing I can say about this game is that the music is phenomenal

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XV-kun pls kill this thread

Gonna wait for the inevitable PC version. I really can't stand the performance I've seen so far.

I said it before and I'll say it again. This game is a solid 8/10. It looks good but it's nowhere near this masterpiece Tabata is over hyping the absolute shit out of

That's fine by me but I'm sure Square Enix will be dissapointed when it doesn't sell the gazillioon copies it needs to.

The good:

I like the setting
The combat looks fun
The dialogue is entertaining
The music is great
There seems to be quit a bit of variety and side content

The bad:

Pop in looks pretty bad.
The city looks a bit empty in terms of NPCs... not that we've seen much of it.
The monsterhunts seem fairly bland, especially compared to Witcher 3.

Overall it looks pretty good.

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Is the movie any good? Heard it's pretty much the invasion from Final Fantasy Versus XIII but was cut out of the game.

I'm a little bummed out but it still looks like a good time sink.

At least the anime is good

Blame him. Everytime he opened his mouth, he kept digging a bigger hole for FF XV. Why did Square even allow him to talk? He kills hype every time he opens his mouth

The only thing I really like is the food.

Hajime "Stupid piece of niggertrash cuck gooktrash motherfucker trahsnigger DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE YOU FUCKING NIGGEEEER" Tabata

does Tabata have down syndrome?

Wow Noctis sounds so much better. I'm impressed. Did they change his VA? Because he sounds good and actually sounds his age. He no longer sounds like a 40 year old Batman after smoking a pack of cigarettes a day

His voice is the only thing I liked in the gameplay video.

loved it brough all my hype back up.

I hope the NOCTIS ORGY scene is stil in

fuck back off to reddit
thanks

Not really. I mean a FF fan might enjoy it but don't expect anything from it.

How does Nomura feel about seeing his creation get raped and left for dead in a ditch?

>When I took over the project I felt that because we'd already made a promise to the fanbase out there with Versus XIII, it was really Square Enix's responsibility to deliver on that project. There was no doubt in my mind when I took over the project that we needed to do this. We don't [think someone should trace around another creative vision]. That's not a good way of doing it because, obviously, two [different] people can't share the same vision.

>When I started approaching what to keep in and what to take out, I started thinking [about] everything that we'd already presented to the world with Versus XIII that would work within my new vision of Final Fantasy XV[, all that] was kept with no problem. Anything that would have been difficult to keep in there or couldn't, I cut out. I really tried to make the best use of all the original elements from Verus within Final Fantasy XV. It was a really challenging way to approach it but I think in the end it was the best way and worthwhile.

>two [different] people can't share the same vision.

So where is XV-kun now where he said that FFXV is Versus? Tabata himself says it isn't so. He literally just kept some of the elements from the Versus trailers not to piss off fans while doing his own shit completely from the ground up.

Bad
Downgrade is real and too much even for console standarts
Should've focused on a consistent artstyle and a good looking world instead of 10000000000 poly models

Probably dead inside
You can tell that Square told him to change the game a lot when it became a mainline game

THE CAR IS ON RAILS

He was quite upset when he was let off the project. I think when he designed his own Batman, he said it reflected his inner rage or something.

Hell yea, user. Pause music was soothing.

>still caring about final faggotry

grow up for fucks sake. this is a series for babies and weebs.

This is FFX emulated on PC. Look how crisp it looks. Look how sharp it looks.

Why can't a game built from the ground up on a current-gen console look better than this? FFXV looks grey and muddied as fuck.

This probably pissed me off the most. All Tabata had to do was finish the game Nomura started. That's what got people interested in Final Fantasy Versus XIII in the first place. But of course, his ego wouldn't allow it so he just had to throw his fucking unwanted two cents in and now he fucked up what could have been a fantastic video game. Fuck Tabata and everybody who likes that piece of shit

Dialogue is much better than I expected, as are the voice actors.
Music is 11/10
Combat is much better than Platinum (which was admittedly garbage - so it may just be mediocre as is)
Graphics are hot garbage. The models are amazing but the environments are PS2 tier.
The creature design from youtube.com/watch?v=gLy8LD8P9uc is amazing. got it right

Because gotta keep all that tech and high poly models instead of a consistent artsyle and good mix of graphical fidelity

Literally all their budget went into marketing and creating high poly models

When Robert Sanderson inherited the work of Robert Jordan, he at first tried to make a final book based on Jordan's vision. He dug through his notes and after some months, decided to completely ignore his notes and write his own ending instead.

The moral of the story; don't pass one man's vision to another. SE should never have used Versus for easy FFXV marketing. They should've just been upfront with it being cancelled and FFXV being a completely new game. But instead they tried to play it sly and fool us into thinking it was simply Versus turning into FFXV when in truth Versus was killed and some designs were brought to FFXV for easy marketing points.

FF has always had relatively high-poly models ever since FFVIII. It's nothing new to the series. I think the problem is that they pushed too much the visual presentation on to the lightning system. And when they ended up scaling up lightning immensely, it hurt the overall presentation pretty big since it was designed around that advanced lightning and shadowing system.

It's nice you can dress the characters up now

>blaming Tabata still

Come on guys. We have no idea what the full behind the scenes layout of the game was when Nomura was in charge. It could have been a clusterfuck for all we know. You typically don't just change directors like that for no good reason.

Yeah, but not that high. Look at the models in the 2013 trailer. They look totally fine and it would allow them to make the rest of the world look way better

But it's over, not like we can change anything at this point

What the fuck is wrong with blonde dude's shoulders?

>Dialogue is much better than I expected, as are the voice actors.

Instead of many uninspired NPCs that give you quests.

We have one uninspired NPC with overpriced VA to give you fetch quests.

Polish in all the wrong places. This game is a glorified MMO.

What this user said Overall I'm looking forward to it, but now also waiting for the pc version this game deserves

He literally said XV was no longer the same game as Versus XIII when he took over

This
It's pretty much the first game ever that i would buy a high end PC for. Especially after seeing all those amazing looking tralers over the past 3 years.
And they even have the PC version, they have all the assets, but for some reason they'd rather make another PC version and waste another 2-3 years and millions of dollars
How retarded is Square

None of the quest givers in FF have been interesting for a long time.

Who fucking cares? The game is shit now and it's clearly his fault.

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>Yeah, but not that high.
Yes, that high. The problem isn't the high-poly models. The problem is a very taxing lightning system that was scaled back at the last minute of development when it proved too much for consoles. If high polygon count was the problem, they would scale them back aswell. But they didn't. It was lightning that took the hit because lightning can be demanding as fuck.

This goes back to what I was saying. FFX and FFXII weren't designed around an impressive lightning system. This is why FFXV looks bad. Its intended lightning system is completely gone.

And? The main quest in this game isn't even good either.

>XV was no longer the same game as Versus XIII
Versus wasn't even a game, it was a bunch of snippets thrown together to tell people there was an idea of a game.

It likely wasn't even 1/5 complete when Tabata took over.

I'm very excited for just meandering through the world. I never liked just wandering Skyrim or Fallout but for this game I will.

It's pretty obvious though
Tabata wanted to join XV since he was working on type-0 and Nomura accepted him as co-director

As Tabata could manage the game's dev time and budget more efficient, he was made into the main director while Nomura had to prioritize KHIII and now FF VII:R
One man can direct only so many games simulteniously.

Still a bummer since it was supposed to be the game of his dream and Noctis to him was like a second son after Sora.
He never mentioned the game since 2014

The models and textures and lod were scaled back, that's the downgrade.

FFXV literally never used the lighting they intended it to outside of tech demos. "Last minute" is just false, they cut it out years ago.

No, not that high
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The 2013 were way lower poly and it would've allowed them to make the rest look way better
They even had a whole video about the new super high poly models
The 2013 were totally fine and they should've kept them

>He never mentioned the game since 2014
He actually explicitly requests journalists don't ask about FFXV during interviews. Something bad went down behind the scenes. He wasn't even at the Uncovered event.

I'm yet to watch the 1 hour video, I got a couple questions though.

Is it just the complete first hour of the game, and if so, does it contain any sort of spoilers that would be nice to experience when I'm actually playing the game?

The first 2 minutes are huge spoilers, after that it's 50 minutes of fetch quests in a desert

>Versus wasn't even a game, it was a bunch of snippets thrown together to tell people there was an idea of a game.

Bull fucking shit

gematsu.com/2010/06/final-fantasy-versus-xiii-scenario-complete-confirms-dengeki

The game's whole entire script was completed. Everything was already planned out and then Tabata came and changed everything and fucked everything up

Thought I'm the only one who actually prefer the way it looked on the Ebony engine
Although pre-baked, it looked clean and the vfx were on point

they cut out hours of boring as fuck backtracking through the empty world and yes there are spoilers but the game looks like shit so it doesn't matter.

>10 years of development.
>Characters with 10 gorillions of polygons and every hair have their own polygon.
Despite this the world looks muddy as fuck, and the art direction looks horrible. The gameplay is quite ass too.

The game isn't going hold the expectations. If anything I'm going wait for DQ.

I was just saiyan. FF in general hasn't been good lately so I don't know what people were expecting.

>He actually explicitly requests journalists don't ask about FFXV during interviews

Huh, when it was stated?
Never heard of that, although it's not a surprise

Watching that E3 2013 trailer, none of the models look lower poly to me. It doesn't matter anyways since that trailer is running on PC. Most of the trailer footage is PC. It's just recently they started showing off console footage, where lightning has taken the greatest hit whereas polygons have stayed more or less the same.

>Writing a script is the same thing as having a game
Fuck off retard. That's EXACTLY what I said, they didn't have a game, they had an IDEA of a game.

Nomura was too incompetent to put it together in an efficient manner and got replaced by someone who could, the game is going to be shit, but at least it'll exist.

You're literaly fucking blind

Nomura made KH games, the mainline titles of which are very good tier at the least.

What has Tabata made? Right

>polygons have stayed more or less the same.
Refer to
"no".

It's the first several hours but with the filler cut out. By the end he has 3/13 story weapons and is fighting shit that's over level 20.

Remember when Jun Akiyama was supposed to do the scenario? What happened with that?

>that fucking awful animation firth thing in the game
>the terrible walking animation and collision animations
>the fucking terrible animation where lion boy drags noctis to the cover like they're fucking sliding on ice

Holy SHIT
THIS GAME JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE

Thanks for the heads up, I'll just play the game and see it then.

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XV-kun when will this end? This game is shit.

You mean his creation realized better than he ever could. He's happy.

It's almost like people reply to each other

I don't like the drums personally but the rest is nice.

Atleast you're not pretending XV is Versus anymore, XV-kun.

You bumbling retard if the ENTIRE FUCKING SCRIPT IS ALREADY COMPLETED THEN IT IS MORE THAN A FUCKING IDEA. Having a script finished means they have a clear vision of the game and development has begun. Goddamn Tabata fanboys are beyond retarded

It has made me mildly excited. Although, I was way more excited about FFXV after playing Duscae and not so much after platinum demo. This trailer has been a net positive for me personally.

kek

>Nomura made KH games, the mainline titles of which are very good tier at the least.
Yes, but they're also exceedingly simple and not even close to the scale of FFXV.

KH games are a series of hallways connected via loading screens where you fight enemies in each room before moving onto the next where you get a cutscene with disney characters.

FFXV is an open world game filled with NPCs, roaming enemies, stupid amounts of unnecessary particle effects on every attack you perform etc.

Nomura clearly wasn't able to figure out how to make FFXV a reality without it being a mess, and Tabata couldn't either.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Tabata, I'm just sick of fucking retards acting like Versus was EVER a thing, when it wasn't. Nomura got replaced for being inept and being an idea man without understanding how to implement those ideas realistically.

It's not perfect, that water in the resort town is inexcusable in any year. At the same time is the only game this entire year that I am/was legitimately excited for, and I am very excited

You played Versus?

Daily reminder that, if not for the awful visual kei band character group, FF XV'd had potential to be the best game in the saga and the true savior of JRPGs.

But, as it is, it'll be a wonderful world, with a fun but shallow gameplay, and an interesting plot, all dragged down by having to stand four assholes that not even a fujoshi'd think are well written, developed, or just likable.

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(You)

>Nomura inept
Let's see, Nomura has made several good games.

Tabata has made zero good games.

Who is the inept one out of these two? Also Tabata completely blew his shot. His game is the laughing stock of the Internet now.

It looks like fucking glass

You played XV?
Don't even start with the headcanon meme
At this point we know as much about V13 as we do about XV

You aren't paying attention to my post, I said Tabata is a fucking incompetent doof, the difference is that he was able to produce SOMETHING, which Nomura couldn't do because he had Kojima syndrome. Nomura wanted to do too much shit that just wasn't realistic.

>PS2 tier.
You never actually played a PS2 game, huh?

Actually they made a whole video about increased poly counts and shit when they changed to Luminous and go on and on about how there're 5 million polygons in each frame and shit instead of focusing on a good balance

Yeah I'm not sure what they were thinking with Platinum. It took away some of my hype actually. It would've been better to re-patch Duscae with the new combat and if they were feeling generous, toss in the final boss of Platinum somewhere.

With the delay I honestly feel like they should repatch just to help with the wait.

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Versus wasn't even 25% done.

So filling in the rest of that 75% with new stuff makes it different but still the same

Mario Sunshine have better water despite being made on fucking 2002.

Where all the money did go?

Do you even know what Down Syndrome is?

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Cocaine and hookers

I think everyone but Prompto are likeable and Noctis is a too-tier protagonist. Fight me

>Tabata fanboys think he is even worthy of wiping Nomura's ass

If Nomura leaves Square, they are literally fucked. If Tabata leaves, then it wouldn't affect a single thing