When did junior go from being the scrappy-doo of mario to being one of greatest and well-liked characters?

When did junior go from being the scrappy-doo of mario to being one of greatest and well-liked characters?

When he killed Chef Pee Pee

He got some hate at first because people thought he replaced the koopalings. He seems generally more popular now that he usually appears along with them.

That said, I liked that little shit before he was cool.

He didn't.

He was overhated because Koopaling fans loved that TV show and grew to love those personalities, even though they aren't a reflection of the actual in-game personalities they have now. With them finally talking and being over exposed to death, now people are realizing maybe they weren't the characters they thought they were. Junior, mean while, has a lot of mystery to him-- who is his mother? What's his connection to E. Gadd? What's his connection to Nabbit? And his personality has gone from a generic annoying little brat cheerleader to a kid whose loving idolization of his dad masks a well of hidden loneliness and friendless.

Rosalina replaced his scrappy-doo position

>that pic
I know why I have this boner

This, he was never Scrappy-Doo

People like him now? Seems like the same few obnoxious Juniorfags are the only ones posting him. He's always the least popular character in every game he's in, and nobody seems to care when he's gone.

When the kids whose first game was Super Mario Sunshine grew up.

Because they turned him into Mario's Dr. Eggman, who's one of the best Sonic characters

That's not what that post said at all.

He's nothing like Eggman, he just uses a cutesy version of his Dad's vehicle and a few other toys.

Sunshine. Really though, what the fuck is the deal with the Koopa Kids? Are they biological kids of Bowser or just his minions? I know they put them in Mario Kart 8, but outside of that it seems like Nintendo forgot about them.

>He got some hate at first because people thought he replaced the koopalings.
You know who actually got replaced by both Jr. & the Koopalings? Koopa Kid(s), even the Mario Party games said Bowser were his/their father.

Nobody actually hated him outside a very vocal group of Koopaling fans, who are a tiny portion of Mario fans

Rosalina is far more hated than he is

It did, you're just trying to strawman your ass out of it

He's not Scrappy because Bowser is not Scooby Doo

Who's also thirsty for glory, has a complex relationship with peach, loves to fly, and secretly wishes he had friends. And something to do with Casinos and Jazz

>When did junior go from being the scrappy-doo of mario to being one of greatest and well-liked characters?
>He didn't
Which implies people's perception of him never changed. It's a very clear and direct answer. Basic reading comprehension, unlike what you're doing, isn't strawman.

I didn't care for him much because MUH KOOPALINGS at first.

But then the New Super Mario Bros. series kind of wore out the charm of their return.

What really won me over was Jr. showing up in Sm4sh and Sakurai not making him a clone of his dad.

Sounds nothing like Eggman.

>complex relationship with peach
If it's so complex, take a few paragraphs to describe it to me.

>secretly wishes he had friends
You completely missed the point of Paper Jam, there's no deep meaning. He's not lonely, he's a fucking selfish brat who's only willing to get along with himself.

He has no problems with kidnapping her and barking at her in a cage. And yet, he takes care not to smash her with his giant metal claw in NSMBWU, he cheers for her when she beats him Sluggers, says he doesn't mind paying extra money on a shop as long as its Peach's in Fortune Street, and apparently kidnapped Peach in the first game because of his own feelings for her and not because of his dad's lie.

They revived the clown car which is a perfect fit for him.

Kidnaps her bacuse he likes her but doesn't actually care for her as a person.

Wow, so incredibly deep and complex and NOT just Bowser's relationship with Peach, but given to a baby version of Bowser. Mario & Luigi Paper Jam is truly our generation's The Catcher in the Rye.

Maybe, but they got along to the point that they were willing to destroy one of their own worlds to stay together. That and they were fucking adoreable around each other

Smash.
Everything relating to most of Nintendo's characters in their current rendition and portrayal can be linked to Smash.

Rosalina replaced him as the creator's pet

He is in good games.

>Sunshine (even though he's the worst part)
>Galaxy 1
>Mario Golf World Tour
>...

He's in over 35 games. Stop being mad people like something that you don't.

What's that have to do with me? Those are the only good games he's had a notable part of, to my memory. I guess Double Dash.

Also Galaxy 2, all of the NSMB games except 2, Strikers, Power Tenis, Toadstool Tour, and Smash Brothers

And smash and M&L Paper Jam.

So yeah, he's repeatedly in good games so people associate him with good so people like him

>Galaxy 1
>good

I wish this meme died

Paper Jam kinda sucks and he's terrible in Smash, but the other games are fair points.

I'm sad that I know what you're talking about

What a bunch of bullshit.

I WANT A HAPPY MEAL

What's your 2 cent opinion then, user.

Just that your claim that the shitty old cartoon has anything to do with why people don't like Scrappy Koopa is bullshit.
And your analysis of his character seems like grasping at straws, looking for depth that obviously isn't there.
Who is anyone's mother?
He stole one of Gadd's many inventions.
Probably no relation to Nabbit, they never interact or anything.

His personality has gone from a generic annoying little brat that wants to be his dad to the same thing, because he hasn't developed at all.

It does it if creates expectations and hype for characters in a way that didn't reflect reality. Koopalings fans are like the No Mans Sky portion of the Mario fanbase: they get ridiculous with these guys. And that leads them to hate anything that they think is a threat or replacement. Simple as that. Sorry if your mad: it's just the impassioned facts.

You're the only one that seems mad though, the only people in this thead even mentionig koopalings are using their fans as some sort of boogeyman scapegoat.

Because hate and love of a character is relative and a fan base can become intollerable when they have a problem with differing view points. And you can feel free to ignore the other people on here who are speaking up-- or do you somehow think I'm single handedly writing every anti-koopalings post?

But no other Mario fans hated Bowser Jr., though

Only the Koopalingfags did

It's weird that the Koopalings represent everything I hate about modern Mario yet Jr represents when Mario was still great (Sunshine/Galaxy)

Is it sad that two Koopas for a Throne made me like the little shit?

nobody cared who he was until he put on the mask

It isn't weird, it's just unfortunate that so many people never stopped to wonder wether Nintendo had a good reason to add Bowser Jr. instead of the Koopalings.

>Bowser Jr. is paraplegic now
It's one thing to fight in a mech but does he need to play tennis and have parties with the thing?

Nobody that isn't an actual autist hated him. He's a Mario character, they mostly exist to look cute and bark weird noises, which he does just fine WITHOUT eating up the entire budget of a Mario Kart game like the Koopalings like to do.

There is not a single Mario character worth hating. Because they're barely characters.

The stupider thing about "Jr. replaced the Koopalings" is that not a single game refered to them as Bowser's children anyway and they hadn't showed up in a game since the Snes, so when Sunshine came out, we had 10 entire years without the Koopalings showing up in anything. The characters were retired long before Jr. was even an idea,

He's probably a boss in Mario Party Star Rush, so the mech clown makes sense.