Is 2017 the year of Sanic?

Is 2017 the year of Sanic?

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>we're going back to Sonic's roots for the eighteen billionth time

Lol no.

>2017

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Get with the times my radical dude, it's 1997

I am so tired of you fairweather faggots. Things were better before all this.

Yes

That's pretty cool

If there was a 3D game it would be. I don't care for the 2D Sonics, sorry reddit.

what do we know about the other upcoming Sanic game?

is it basically gonna be Generations 2.0: Original new levels edition?

2017 will be a 3D game.

We're getting a 3D Mario in 2017. Get fucked, moron

It has classic sonic and modern sonic is guaranteed to have lots of 2D sections like colors and generations. It's a 2D game.

I don't buy the 20% 3D so its a 3D game meme anymore.

tfw youve been tryin to get off this ride after every recent shitty game but Sonic Mania gives you hope

If the trailer is accurate, a plot and possible edgy.

Blaze is the only good character added to the franchise in the last 20 years.

source?

Marine was funny at least.

>try and think of a counter character
>actually fucking can't

...well played user.

Its fairly obvious thats the trend. They make 2D games first and foremost because it makes IGN happy and then they toss in a few scrap 3D areas and then idiots lap it up and label it as a 3D game. Its been the same shit since Colors and obviously Generations 2.

what if they make it different for once tho

Look how safe the approach they are taking is by including classic sonic to begin with. I'll drink my own piss if its different.

ok

And it's till shit

If a character has a single line of dialogue in a Sonic game other than a quick quip like "say no to drugs kid" or "too cool for school" or something like that it will always be a shit character.

A good character in a sonic game is one who shuts the fuck up

kill yourself

So... none of them?

Blaze x Omega

Play the 8 bit and 16 bit games and find out

She'd transition to the classic cast well too.

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Sonic said shit in his Manuals, commercials, tv shows from that era and Sega cd

Stop shilling Liam

He also had cartoons you nignog

And yet the games the narrative was told by progressing the levels in a very simple manner
You don't need quirky little creatures telling you about the extensive and enriching lore of the furry little gay kingdom

M I L K Y W A Y

Difference is, this time they've got Whitehead.

Not him but do you dislike Mario and company since SM64 when they added voices by that logic?

>implying

>I don't want my games to have more depth and have a character that is boring with no personality
Ok

you say that like it's a good thing

How is acne supposed to make things any better?

Not him, and I certainly don't agree with him in some regards, but Sonic 3 & Knuckles is one of the best plots told without words for its era, and is a great example of it now.

>Mario Goes To Mexico

It's gonna be shit.

>Mario Unleashed

Its going to be GOAT faggot

It never bothered me since the story was just kept to the beginning, end and some minor interactions. It hardly gets in the way. The problem isn't the voices in case you didn't catch that, is the story getting in the way of a game that focuses more on pure gameplay.
And we're talking about very straighforward stories here, it doesn't need exposition, you can tell these stories in very implicit ways without boring the player to tears and worst making it cringe.

After how U and 3d world sucked this isn't a good thing Next Mario will probably be better than Sonic 2017 project

>S H I T

>Mario and Luigi: Trumps Inside Story
I'd buy it

>a 30 second cutscene is so boring and le cringe OWW IM CRINGING REDDIT

ok

>things i never said
Ok thanks for being straightforward and letting me know you're retarded
Enjoy your Sonic Adventure

Developing games in 2017 by the same standards as 25 years ago is the quickest way to kill a franchise. Even Mania is trying to actually improve and it's a side game instead of one of the mainline games. If you can't handle even a Saturday morning kids cartoon story in a game for kids then feel free to check yourself into the nearest psychiatrist office.

But all the cutscenes are skippable. And some of the newer games have toned down on story like Colors (you start playing right away when you start it up, level progression is simple and smooth and doesn't require any prerequisites, etc).

Of course you would, Sup Forumsack memester faggot.

ok

>he thinks Sonic Adventure is an insult
>while calling other people are retarded

I don't want to skip cutscenes, I want a good story that's told by ludonarrative elements like all the good Sonic games did..Sonic doesn't need dialogue nor extensive CG cutscenes, you can understand the story by little snipets in the game like it did before. If they can handle it that's how you tell a story in a Sonic game.

Sonic adventures story is actually good and enhances the game
As is rush
And unleashed
And colors

Only reddit, IGN, and "youtube analysts" call sonic stories bad or le cringe. Which one are you user? Reddit?

Sonic CD had cutscenes technically. The opening and the ending.

Which in turn were pretty well animated and with great music and no dialogue jap music > burger [

Blaze a shit

>Blazefags

Fucking everything that came from the alternate dimension bullshit is terrible. Silver, Mephiles, Blaze, Marine, Eggman Nega, dumb, dumb bullshit.

Everything that came after the genesis titles are dumb bullshit. Rouge, black edgehog, Robotnik name change, Amy redesign, Omega, gamma, fucking Big.
All trash

ok

The fact of the matter is, the most memorable parts of Sonic are whenever it's tried to be more than just a video game. The cartoons, the anime, the comic, the stories in the Adventure-era games, all those have shaped the public's perception of Sonic far more than the classic era games, to the extent that peoples' reactions to the above shape their attitudes toward the classic era games. Obviously this can be for better or for worse and a lot of people will say it's for worse, but the best way for Sonic to change is not simply by having good games with no story. Games like those, no matter how well designed, are the junk food of video gaming. You play them a couple times, get bored and toss them aside, and never really think about them again. A game with good gameplay and a memorable story will always be longer lasting in the public consciousness. The rantings and ravings of delusional classicfags are always nothing more than autistic self-absorbed whinefests that have no basis in reality.

somewhat related but i remember everyone raving over the adventure games and heroes when they were new. it was shadow that jumped the gun followed by 06 and the wii era that fucked up sonic. unleashed came in and saved the day but it may have been to late.

youre right on everything else though, classic autists are in another dimension with their delusion

Nice strawman but no one is arguing for no story. Go back to Sonic 3 & Knuckles and see how a good story is told in a Sonic game with zero dialogue. It's like a little mute theater play, it works really well and tells a rich story in a very minimal way.

If you consider Tetris, Pulseman, or Contra III the junk food of gaming I want no part in what you're selling.

>Eggman does something bad
>stop him
>there is a asshole who laughs at you sometimes
Oh man such a good story

Rouge and Shadow could have been good, Gamma was a great arc, and how the FUCK do you dislike Amy's redesign?

>modern design
>dresses like a slut
>boots that go up to knees
>no longer protrudes childlike innocence

All of those are over 20 years old. Tetris is over 30. You cannot design modern games using older design standards unless it's indie (and even then the most memorable indie games are the ones with stories) or a niche side game (Mania).

Sonic is THE go-to for autistic furry faggots, so probably.

wat

He means the whiteheads you can get on your face in certain circumstances. I am also confused however, how does something become "whitehead", does it mean "perfected"?

When it comes to telling simple narratives a lot of new games could take a hint to how old games did it

Slapping cutscenes on a game doesn't necessarily improve a game, it just pads things out most of the time

Really, asshole?

>Hey Sonic, there's the unknown island!
>Yeah, yeah, check this out! Whoo!
>...FUCK! What the fuck, he knocked the Emeralds out of me?! HOW?
>Aw man, now the whole island is on fire...
>Well well, Robotnik, time to trash you like usual.
>This guy again. What's he laughing aboOH SHIT
>Great, we're stuck. NOT AGAIN WITH THE FALLING BRIDGE
>Robotnik again? What's he up to?
>Shutting off power to the park, eh? That could actually be trouble.
>Is that...oh great, the Death Egg, so that's what Robotnik is up to.
>Move it chucklehead, before Robotnik takes off!
>Later, Egghead!

That's practically Sonic's route in Sonic Adventure 1 worth of story told in roughly 3 minutes as opposed to 20 minutes of cringey cutscenes and dialogue. And that's just Sonic 3.

...

"Exudes," not protrudes.

And they lengthened the skirt later.

She was just Pink Sonic in a weird-colored, poorly-designed outfit before, now she's a solid, streamlined design.

A+ post

Nobody gives a shit about simple narratives anymore, at least not on console/PC for $60+tax+currency exchange rate. Those belong only on handheld or mobile for cheaper.

Correct.

>I'm the arbiter of what everyone wants

Unlike you I don't talk for anyone else other than myself. I expressed my opinnion on the matter and I heard yours, but please don't pretend you're talking for the rest of the world.

Shovel Knight pulled off the simple narrative well, though it did have dialogue.

Okay Shiggy, have fun wondering why modern audiences don't like the same rehashed trash they can just get for cheaper somewhere else.

>Hey Sonic, there's the unknown island!
>Yeah, yeah, check this out! Whoo!
>Well well, Robotnik, time to trash you like usual.
>Robotnik again? What's he up to?
>Is that...oh great, the Death Egg, so that's what Robotnik is up to.
This can be applied to every stage in every sonic
>oh man a chemical plant lets check it out
>oh a casino lets check it out
>look it's eggman lets kick his butt
This is not story this is every playable stage. You're just inserting your own made up quips every now and again.
You're just as bad as darksouls fags making up their own story
stop samefagging

So hes not the arbiter on what everyone wants, thats your title telling everyone they want dead silent sonic games with faggots chuckling for the story content

When did I ever tell what other people want? I told you what I want. Continuing the strawman tradition I see. Sonic Adventure really taught you reading comprehension wonders

Okay but then all you're saying is that the flagship mascot franchise of a major video game company should just aspire to be a $25 indy game.

Youve spent this whole thread telling people that theyre not allowed to like the standard issue storytelling thats present in sonic games and that it should only be an in game half a second scene of something happening int he background because your autism cant be stopped for 30 seconds

If you want the big, bombastic, Sonic narrative, look to 2017. I don't want Mania to try and be more cinematic than CD or 3 & Knuckles.

Well seeing how it has been more successful than any sonic game has been in the last 16 years yeah maybe he should

Heres the problem with your "solution"

NO FUCKING SONIC GAMES HAVE BOMBASTIC STORIES ANYMORE

You fucking autists have dragged us back to the stone age ever since colors with these shitty cringeworthy stories and dialogue

Yes I told you my opinnion. How is that speaking for someone else

Really proving that low IQ from the Sonic Passion forums. Maybe you should go back there, pretty sure you're not gay but there's something about sonic's cum

It took a year and a half for it to break one million sales, including Kickstarter sales, across 10 different platforms. The only mainline Sonic games to not break at least one million have been Wii U exclusives.

not an argument

Hey, I enjoyed some of the stories. It's when they got too self serious that I took issue. I actually quite liked the story in Sonic Unleashed, and I have nostalgic fondness for the Adventure games one.

But Shadow and 06 happened, and what needed to happen happened, cut the glut. I think they went too far around Generations and Lost World, there's a balance you can find. I hope 2017 finds it.

Worse comes to worse, read your comics.

Minimalism for Sonic is a good thing. He has always been about gamplay until Adventure happen. Sonic didn't need stories to be good. The story hindered the gameplay. Hell I think the cutscenes in 3 were going overboard which is why 2 was better. Sonic is pure game and should always be pure game. No story just good gameplay and good music

>Hell I think the cutscenes in 3 were going overboard which is why 2 was better.
I was mostly with you, but I honestly think 3 & Knuckles is pitch perfect in the story telling for the 2D games. I liked the context and how everything linked.

Minimalism is for Mario. Sonic has always been the anti-Mario and should be.

I don't even know who the chick is from, kangaroo court asshole.

And guess what, that's the story of Sonic 3. Those are exactly the events that transpire, told without dialogue. I threw in dialogue to freshen your god awful memory instead of describing each scene in a Tolkien manner.

If you can't handle the storytelling method, that's your own lack of cranial matter.

Sonic Adventure 1 was the absolute most story that Sonic as a series can get away with. Even then, it only worked because of how Chaos tied into Knuckles' past.

>anti mario means we should have furry melodrama
Sonic even if he is "anti mario" his gameplay was already established 20 years ago and it was the best he has ever been and it had no story. He needs to return to form.

Generations was half and half. You fuck

>gameplay and story are automatically tied together
>you can't have both, it must be one extreme or the other