Would these games have sold more units if they were less edgy?

would these games have sold more units if they were less edgy?

Isaac being "edgy" probably got it more sales than it drove people away.

The only people who were turned off by it were parents, the squeemish, and hardline Jews and Christians.

>edgy
elaborate

>Bible-reference is always edgy.

It sold more because it was ""edgy""

Isaac isn't edgy. It's a comedy if anything. There's christian symbolism, but that doesn't instantly make something edgy.

Probably that it shits on the Bible a whole lot.

And also because the Bible is actually the worst activatable item in the game.

>the parents
>hardline jews and christians
>knowing about games like boi

I would have liked it more if there wasn't as much shit, blood, and body-horror done in that cutesy style

Not much edgy about Isaac.
But I guess according to your uneducated mind Life of Brian is also edgy?

And it sold extremely well.

>shits on
how so? one crazy lady?

You can't be serious. I love Isaac but it is the most deliberately, overtly edgy game since Postal. Every single thing in the game was designed to be offensive. You can get a coat hanger used for abortions, fetuses, all sorts of satanic kit, and playing cards for fuck's sake.

I don't understand how there could be any doubt that the game is super edgy.

That's exactly my point. They probably amount to like 5,000 sales total, compared to all the sales Steakmund McMuffin got from the people who like that stuff.

>playing cards are offensive

I think Edward knew the audience he was going for when he was making this. Plus I'd like to debate your point of the bible being the worst activate-able; I'd say Isaac's Tear's vies for that spot.

Mom is kinda the most important non-Isaac character in the game, though.

And?

yes, I don't see how an insane woman hearing voices shits on the bible

>it shits on the Bible a whole lot.
If you unironically think this you're looking for reasons to be offended. A major theme of Isaac is that young children don't possess the mental development necessary to have a meaningful grasp of religion, along with the dissonance that arises from being told there is a loving god while having abusive parents.


>the Bible is actually the worst activatable item in the game.
Ok you haven't played the game.

Isaac's tears is helpful if you're the Keeper, but I don't know why you would want to trade it for Wooden Nickel.

It's also really good on Azazel.

I think you might legitimately be retarded, based on the post alone.

not an argument

I bought it because it was fun. I don't give a fuck about "edgy" or any other of your buzzwords

I got around 140h in vanilla + rebirth combined and what he said is completely true.

The Bible is a fucking godsend for new players and those who got a shit run and don't have the stats to beat Mom or It Lives

You're conflating edgy with dark humor. Isaac is about a troubled kid's warped and distorted view of religion, and how it came to be that way.

Too weak to give a proper argument, right?

>godsend
heh

I've gotten all achievements up to Afterbirth, and have had a streak of 21 before getting niggered by a terrible Eden start.

I'm one of the 5% to have 1001%

Nobody thinks this game is edgy because of religious references you bunch of absolute retards. Mocking the bible is common practice anywhere outside of third world shitholes like the US and doesn't even count as being subversive or going against the grain, it's just assumed that any reference to religious stuff is sarcastic and mocking. The game isn't particularly anti-religion anyway, it just criticizes people who do really bad stuff in the name of religion (the mom character).
The shit, piss, blood, and vomit is what's unappealing and turns people off from playing it, and combined with the faux-cutesy artstyle it just becomes even more obnoxious. Personally I can't stand to look at this game. The remake with the jaggedy pixel art is even fucking worse. Luckily nowadays "roguelikes" are so common that Isaac is obsolete and you can always find something that plays similarly without being tryhard shit.

Besides the fact that you kill Gabriel and Uriel, the plethora of unholy items, making pacts with the devil, shitting up a Cathedral, and the fact that Edmund made the game based off of his horrible memories of his family going full Fundie, I guess I really do have no point.

Oh wait...

It wouldn't have sold very well if it wasn't edgy.

Edgy shit is really fun if you do it right.

Now this is edgy.

>you can always find something that plays similarly without being tryhard shit
Name one

I thought the whole point was that the devil was corrupting mom and not god, doesn't one of the endings have a mysterious force knock a book onto moms head and kill her? Pretty much makes god the good guy and not really being edgy at all.

Our darker purpose.

>Luckily nowadays "roguelikes" are so common that Isaac is obsolete and you can always find something that plays similarly without being tryhard shit.
Similar, but not the same.

Mom is just a delusional cunt who abused Isaac in the name of religion, causing Isaac to lock himself inside a box, suffocate, and become Blue Baby and The Lost. She wasn't corrupted by Satan, she was just an insane religious nutjob.

I'd go find the interview where Edmund talks about this stuff, but he does so many interviews that I'd not be able to find it before the thread died, and that he also probably talked about it in Indie Game: The Movie.

It's shit tho

Prefer it to isaac
>no item pool bloating with "xDD +1hp" done 30 times
>active items are viable due to timed cooldown and on-room refresh
>runs at 60 and 120FPS
>

>Bible
>the Get-Boss-Rush-Free Card
>bad

Also, the game doesn't shit on the Bible. The "God" that tells Mom to kill Isaac is pretty obviously not the actual God.

The hardest part about getting to boss rush is everything before Mom. If you can't kill her on time, you shouldn't be doing boss rush.

Other than killing Mom/Mom's Heart/It Lives, the Bible is extremely limited, and actually kills you if you use it on Satan. It's the only active item that's actually detrimental to you.
>inb4 Blood Rights and Razor Blade
With Isaac's Heart, you can use them infinitely, since you're immune to damage. With Blood Rights, you can kill Hush in a little under 2 minutes.

So it wasn't the devil that corrupted her, but what about the book that dropped on her head?

Well, the story of Isaac is a very obvious allegory for the biblical story of the same name where God told Abraham to sacrifice his own son to him....

that ending is purely made up by Isaac, hence why she appears behind him in real life after he finishes it

Might very well be divine will.

Edmund isn't necessarily anti-religion, but more so anti-religious-people. His family used to be insufferable degenerates, then they found religion and became even bigger degenerates that abused him and tried to force him into following the word of Christ. That's part of his inspiration for Isaac.

>The hardest part about getting to boss rush is everything before Mom. If you can't kill her on time, you shouldn't be doing boss rush.

If you've never been in a situation where having flight for a room could have saved you several minutes of scrounging for a key that isn't stuck behind rocks, I can only assume you've NEVER played the game.

I only need Mega Stan Head. How the fuck do you get it?

I only do boss rush if I'm prepared enough to do it. If I had to scrounge a floor to buy a key/bomb to get an item, I'd usually just take the polaroid and go to Satan to at least preserve my streak.

It's a rare devil deal item.

Or you can just do Eden runs til you start with it.

Beat Mega-Stan as every character. The hardest one to do it as is probably The Lost, since Keeper is basically a free Mega-Stan run if you find Swallowed Penny or get lucky with the Wooden Nickel drops

>spend all of your Eden tokens
>get depressed when that fails
>use dice, restock, and chaos to break the game and hope you can buy it from the shop

nobody said it didnt sell well

Got it, thanks guys.

it's too humorous and surreal to be considered pure edge. that's reserved for stuff that takes itself too seriously.

>RNGesus tier
Eden
>God tier
Isaac (with D6)
Azazel (pre-nerf)
>High tier
Samson
Judas
>Mid tier
Azazel
Cain
Eve
Isaac
>Low tier
Maggy
The Lost
???
Lilith
>Shit tier
The Keeper
Eden

Sup Forums says:

>I listen to cannibal corpse and watch gory scary movies so nothing is edgy for me LE IDEAS


same mentality as:
>if something isnt edgy for me then it isnt edgy for anyone
>if something doesnt offend me, then it doesnt offend anyone

Sup Forums is full of kids and adults who never learned how to think critically and entertain an idea that isnt their own

>if something is edgy for anyone then it has to be considered edgy by everyone

yes almost

>>if something is edgy for anyone then it has to be considered potentially edgy

fixed

MLP is potentially edgy. WAWWAL

mom is the only sane person here, isaac is the crazed fucker and the whole game revolves around isaac's realizing he's in his own hell brought on by the guilt of him killing cat and eventually committing suicide

the whole intro story intro about his mom was all imagined by him to cope with his angst of social awkwardness and possibly being homosexual

so yes someone can make a thread in the appropriate board and talk about it and have reasons to back it up. sure

you mean transsexual